So, next gen consoles are outdated before release.

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#1 loco145
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Downgraded tech demos like UE4. Confirmed downgrades for unreleased games compared to PCs. Nothing shown surpases the original Crysis. Why did MS and Sony cheapened so much? Mobile will catch with them is a couple of years if this keeps up.

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From what I've seen, they look good. Not to mention games will look better over time. Just compare UC1 to UC3, or any other game.
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yep, and no one cares.

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Really ?

 

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#8 nameless12345
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It would be very hard for consoles to match top PCs because they are so far above.

Besides, would you be willing to pay 600-700 bucks for a game console?

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#9 loco145
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It would be very hard for consoles to match top PCs because they are so far above.

Besides, would you be willing to pay 600-700 bucks for a game console?

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I bought a Ps3 at launch. So, yes.
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#10 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

It would be very hard for consoles to match top PCs because they are so far above.

Besides, would you be willing to pay 600-700 bucks for a game console?

loco145

I bought a Ps3 at launch. So, yes.

 

Congrats, you're in the minority. ;)

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This is how it always is and always will be..

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Why mobile?

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Don't care.

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#14 marcheegsr
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Compared to Pc's, yes they are outdated. Compared to this gen consoles? No.

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#15 loco145
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Why mobile?

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4x in power increase with each generation. This year: 100Gflops, Next year 400Gflops and the following year 1600gflops, easilly silly surpassing the xbox one power.

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#16 PAL360
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With all respect, TC, but i honestly couldn't care less about what you consider 'outdated hardware'.

360 and PS3 have 8 year old hardware and some of their games still look great. All console gamers need to know is that PS4 and X1 are 10+ times more powerful than them.

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#17 Gargus
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Downgraded tech demos like UE4. Confirmed downgrades for unreleased games compared to PCs. Nothing shown surpases the original Crysis. Why did MS and Sony cheapened so much? Mobile with catch with them is a couple of years if this keeps up.

loco145

Id really like to engage you in a dicussion but as you have plainly made me see, youre a fanboy for PC. Fanboys can not reason, do not actually think about others point of views, and lack the ability to be mature in a conversation.

PC, console, sony, nintendo, microsoft, etc it doesnt matter what youre a fanboy of because once you show you are then you cease to be rational or mature.

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Most PCs are outdated compaired to 360/PS3.

What's the point of this thread again?

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From what I've seen, they look good. Not to mention games will look better over time. Just compare UC1 to UC3, or any other game.freedomfreak
the mere problem is that when the equivalent of UC3 releases, consoles will be EXTREMELY outdated.
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#21 lostrib
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lots of things shown beat the original crysis.  Crysis is not that impressive anymore

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#22 sukraj
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Compared to Pc's, yes they are outdated. Compared to this gen consoles? No.

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Yes their a step up from this gen.

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Downgraded tech demos like UE4. Confirmed downgrades for unreleased games compared to PCs. Nothing shown surpases the original Crysis. Why did MS and Sony cheapened so much? Mobile with catch with them is a couple of years if this keeps up.

loco145

 

So are 98% of PC out there...:lol:

 

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Looking at PS3 exclusives and knowing PS4 is much stronger and easier to develop for... let it be outdated, it dont matter lol.

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#26 DOADS87
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Good for you TC, we are still getting graphics and physics better than this gen by quite a bit so in the end does it matter if it's not matching up to PC?
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Looking at PS3 exclusives and knowing PS4 is much stronger and easier to develop for... let it be outdated, it dont matter lol.

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From what I've seen, they look good. Not to mention games will look better over time. Just compare UC1 to UC3, or any other game.freedomfreak

 

This won't happen this generation. I know console gamers swear up and down that it will, but that's becaus emost console gamers are idiots who wouldn't know a3D renderer if it bit them on the @ss. Nto that 3D renderes do that! I don't think...

 

Look, at the beginiing of the last gen, new GPU architecture and new 3D API's were just starting out. NO ONE really knew how to use them, for once, not even PC game devs (though of course they caught up might quick, what with Crysis and all). IT was a new paradigm, it was a new undiscovered frontier.

 

THIS is the MAIN reason why there is such disparaty between launch/early titles and titled of today on current gen consoles. It's not magical console optomization. Optmizations is much more responsible for the difference in games toward the middle fo this gen and today - which isn't a big difference at all in 99% of cases.

This situaiton is NOT repeating this gen. Developers are already fmailiar with the ahrdware, there are no major changes in the way 3D is rendered on these machines from YEARS ago. And there is plenty fo talent that can tap the new hardware pretty much from the start.

 

There WILL be improvements, specially when it comes to compute use on the GPU, but the graphical differences that existed last gen will NOT exist this gen.

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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]From what I've seen, they look good. Not to mention games will look better over time. Just compare UC1 to UC3, or any other game.Kinthalis

 

This won't happen this generation. I know console gamers swear up and down that it will, but that's becaus emost console gamers are idiots who wouldn't know a3D renderer if it bit them on the @ss. Nto that 3D renderes do that! I don't think...

 

Look, at the beginiing of the last gen, new GPU architecture and new 3D API's were just starting out. NO ONE really knew how to use them, for once, not even PC game devs (though of course they caught up might quick, what with Crysis and all). IT was a new paradigm, it was a new undiscovered frontier.

 

THIS is the MAIN reason why there is such disparaty between launch/early titles and titled of today on current gen consoles. It's not magical console optomization. Optmizations is much more responsible for the difference in games toward the middle fo this gen and today - which isn't a big difference at all in 99% of cases.

This situaiton is NOT repeating this gen. Developers are already fmailiar with the ahrdware, there are no major changes in the way 3D is rendered on these machines from YEARS ago. And there is plenty fo talent that can tap the new hardware pretty much from the start.

 

There WILL be improvements, specially when it comes to compute use on the GPU, but the graphical differences that existed last gen will NOT exist this gen.

I think you just crushed the hopes of thousands of lems and cows.  You monster! :P

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#30 faizan_faizan
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You're wrong on the nothing surpasses Crysis part. But I agree with the rest, it's not like last gen, both consoles are weak, no Unified Shader paradigm shift this time. Inferiorboxes amconfirmed. PC wins again.
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]From what I've seen, they look good. Not to mention games will look better over time. Just compare UC1 to UC3, or any other game.Kinthalis

 

This won't happen this generation. I know console gamers swear up and down that it will, but that's becaus emost console gamers are idiots who wouldn't know a3D renderer if it bit them on the @ss. Nto that 3D renderes do that! I don't think...

 

Look, at the beginiing of the last gen, new GPU architecture and new 3D API's were just starting out. NO ONE really knew how to use them, for once, not even PC game devs (though of course they caught up might quick, what with Crysis and all). IT was a new paradigm, it was a new undiscovered frontier.

 

THIS is the MAIN reason why there is such disparaty between launch/early titles and titled of today on current gen consoles. It's not magical console optomization. Optmizations is much more responsible for the difference in games toward the middle fo this gen and today - which isn't a big difference at all in 99% of cases.

This situaiton is NOT repeating this gen. Developers are already fmailiar with the ahrdware, there are no major changes in the way 3D is rendered on these machines from YEARS ago. And there is plenty fo talent that can tap the new hardware pretty much from the start.

 

There WILL be improvements, specially when it comes to compute use on the GPU, but the graphical differences that existed last gen will NOT exist this gen.

Alright. So, the leap won't be that big. I still liked the look of the games I've seen, and I can deal with that for the upcoming generation.
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forza 5 have probably one of the best graphics ever in a game, why you think it won so many e3 awards and got best graphics ? nothing on pc graphically touches Forza 5, BF4 didnt even win best graphics award, but Forza 5 did :lol: 

 

 

butthurt hermits and their overpriced hunk pieces of metal that need massive cooling :lol: 

 

seriously

 

bf4 look pretty good for a open 64 player match game, but Forza 5 takes the crown 

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But the games for the next gen consoles won't be outdated, that's what matters.
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forza 5 have probably one of the best graphics ever in a game, why you think it won so many e3 awards and got best graphics ? nothing on pc graphically touches Forza 5, BF4 didnt even win best graphics award, but Forza 5 did :lol: 

 

 

butthurt hermits and their overpriced hunk pieces of metal that need massive cooling :lol: 

 

seriously

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Cake walk on a 2010 GPU, and an old game lol.
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Well yeah,this will be the smallest leap in a console gen ever.
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Well duh. Are you expecting a monster rig for 400-500? You get what you pay for in the world of gaming.
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[QUOTE="ayoox1"]

forza 5 have probably one of the best graphics ever in a game, why you think it won so many e3 awards and got best graphics ? nothing on pc graphically touches Forza 5, BF4 didnt even win best graphics award, but Forza 5 did :lol: 

 

 

butthurt hermits and their overpriced hunk pieces of metal that need massive cooling :lol: 

 

seriously

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Cake walk on a 2010 GPU, and an old game lol.

way to embarrass your self, this dont really look good tbh... Forza 5 look much better and it won best graphics award rightfully so, over PC games
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Oh just shut up you low IQ numbskull.

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Oh just shut up you low IQ numbskull.

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exactly what i thought :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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[QUOTE="AMD655"]

Oh just shut up you low IQ numbskull.

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exactly what i thought :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well i will say one thing, at least you admit being dumb.
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[QUOTE="ayoox1"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

Oh just shut up you low IQ numbskull.

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exactly what i thought :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well i will say one thing, at least you admit being dumb.

60 pound hunk of metal for no reason :lol: ... needing a $300 graphic card to compare to consoles... what a shame, hermits cant see through this,
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[QUOTE="ayoox1"][QUOTE="AMD655"][QUOTE="ayoox1"] exactly what i thought :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well i will say one thing, at least you admit being dumb.

60 pound hunk of metal for no reason :lol: ... needing a $300 graphic card to compare to consoles... what a shame, hermits cant see through this,

80 pound GPU actually lol. It is from 2010.
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[QUOTE="AMD655"][QUOTE="ayoox1"][QUOTE="AMD655"] Well i will say one thing, at least you admit being dumb.

60 pound hunk of metal for no reason :lol: ... needing a $300 graphic card to compare to consoles... what a shame, hermits cant see through this,

80 pound GPU actually lol. It is from 2010.

i will enjoy my perfectly quiet, cool running Xbox one that runs games much more efficiently then your overheating, underperforming, overpriced 80 pound hunk of metals. :lol: seriously though, consoles much more efficient, and Xbox One will be one of the the most efficient piece of computer machine to come out this decade so far in terms of what it does best
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[QUOTE="ayoox1"][QUOTE="AMD655"][QUOTE="ayoox1"] 60 pound hunk of metal for no reason :lol: ... needing a $300 graphic card to compare to consoles... what a shame, hermits cant see through this,

80 pound GPU actually lol. It is from 2010.

i will enjoy my perfectly quiet, cool running Xbox one that runs games much more efficiently then your overheating, underperforming, overpriced 80 pound hunk of metals. :lol: seriously though, consoles much more efficient, and Xbox One will be one of the the most efficient piece of computer machine to come out this decade so far in terms of what it does best

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MSI-GeForce-GTX-480-Street-Fighter-4-edition-/390642333408?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item5af418f6e0 RROD and YLOD? Sure efficiency there.
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[QUOTE="AMD655"][QUOTE="ayoox1"][QUOTE="AMD655"] 80 pound GPU actually lol. It is from 2010.

i will enjoy my perfectly quiet, cool running Xbox one that runs games much more efficiently then your overheating, underperforming, overpriced 80 pound hunk of metals. :lol: seriously though, consoles much more efficient, and Xbox One will be one of the the most efficient piece of computer machine to come out this decade so far in terms of what it does best

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MSI-GeForce-GTX-480-Street-Fighter-4-edition-/390642333408?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item5af418f6e0 RROD and YLOD? Sure efficiency there.

xbox 360 slims and new xbox one are tons better.. no need to bring up the old white models, that was obvious mistake, dont deny what is now though. butthurt hermit playing on overpriced metal :lol: seriously though
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[QUOTE="AMD655"][QUOTE="ayoox1"] 60 pound hunk of metal for no reason :lol: ... needing a $300 graphic card to compare to consoles... what a shame, hermits cant see through this, ayoox1
80 pound GPU actually lol. It is from 2010.

i will enjoy my perfectly quiet, cool running Xbox one that runs games much more efficiently then your overheating, underperforming, overpriced 80 pound hunk of metals. :lol: seriously though, consoles much more efficient, and Xbox One will be one of the the most efficient piece of computer machine to come out this decade so far in terms of what it does best

Hey you get what you pay for.

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[QUOTE="ayoox1"][QUOTE="AMD655"][QUOTE="ayoox1"] i will enjoy my perfectly quiet, cool running Xbox one that runs games much more efficiently then your overheating, underperforming, overpriced 80 pound hunk of metals. :lol: seriously though, consoles much more efficient, and Xbox One will be one of the the most efficient piece of computer machine to come out this decade so far in terms of what it does best

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MSI-GeForce-GTX-480-Street-Fighter-4-edition-/390642333408?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item5af418f6e0 RROD and YLOD? Sure efficiency there.

xbox 360 slims and new xbox one are tons better.. no need to bring up the old white models, that was obvious mistake, dont deny what is now though. butthurt hermit playing on overpriced metal :lol: seriously though

Overpriced? Whatever floats your boat you thick nit.
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#48 faizan_faizan
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Most PCs are outdated compaired to 360/PS3.

What's the point of this thread again?

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Would you rather a console be $1500 and fail? Consoles are made the way they are for several reasons. Price and convenience are just a few of those reasons. 

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Would you rather a console be $1500 and fail? Consoles are made the way they are for several reasons. Price and convenience are just a few of those reasons. 

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AMD 655 dont realize this at all, there specifically designed for games, PC's arent specifically designed for games, consoles perform better then top end PC gear for a little while when the consoles launch... all that extra heat from his computer parts is getting to his head