So PC + Switch is still the ultimate combo for pure amount of games?

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Indies at night in bed on the go

or PC late night home gaming

theres no room for ps4 or xbox one x anymore with the switch its taken their place its absorbed them

Nah, I'd rather PC and PS4 Pro.

No offense to Nintendo because they still make quality games, it's just that I prefer Sony exclusives for the most part.

Yes. It is by far the best combo to get the most variety and quality out of your gaming.

If we go for the most amount of games? Yeah. No doubt really. I am still iffy on the Switch build quality, but I will likely get one when I get rid of my Wii U. Which were in the same boat, Nintendo and PC is a great combo due to the very little overlap in games, and tone.

The Ps4 is much closer to the pc, no surprise really as they share the vast majority of games. With a few Sony exclusives worth talking about. But I could see the argument for a PS4+ Switch if you dislike the PC, since the PS4 seems to get more games from the PC, or simply share more games (due to Sony releasing more and more of their 2nd party games on the PC).

Absolutely. Has seemed this way personally since I finally got around to getting a decent desktop

I've got PS4 as primary with Switch as secondary leaving no room for PC/X1.

Take that as you will.

It only has like 85 games, most of which are indies and neo geo crap....

@endofaugust: Nothing bad about King of Fighters or Garou: Mark of the Wolves.

I think the thread is highlighting how the library of major Switch releases doesn't criss-cross as much with PC as it does with other platforms. This kind of works the same when you consider Switch + Xbox One or Switch + PS4 also.

It's just that most of the major releases on Switch are only available on other Nintendo platforms (Breath of the Wild, Mario Kart 8 and Fire Emblem Warriors) or only available on Switch (Arms, Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2, Mario + Rabbids).

not at all

playstaion still has the best exclusives

yeah, PC & Switch is the best combo right now, especially with the Switch being able to be played in handheld mode. If you are into japanese games enough that you can't wait a year for the game to be ported, you might consider adding a PS4.

Yeah it's just that Sony released a couple really good exclusives this year. So if possible I'd say PC + Switch + PS4, but PC + Switch is a fantastic combo to have.

At this present moment in time, you absolutely cannot miss out on a PS4 either. It is an integral part of any 'pure gaming ultimate combo'

Xbox One soon to transform into the mighty Project Scorpio a Switch and a PS4, I don't regret buying the PS4, it has some games worth buying when cheap and are great for trading in as I don't have much reason to keep them after I complete them

Pee Salty Seas and Bait & Switch... Worse combo ever... Evah!!!

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Yeah, Switch and PC are way to go. Or Switch and mobile. The amount of fun your family and friends can have on these two systems is priceless. Splatoon and Overwatch 4 life. They cant be stopped.

You mean PC >>>>>> PS4 > Switch.

It's about a combination. PC & Switch is a better combo than PC & PS4 (imo)

@AzatiS: That depends on whether you prefer Sony exclusives or Nintendo exclusives, doesn't it?

Yes, I would agree Nintendo Switch/PC is the best combo indeed but like most people have said, PS4/Switch/PC is by far the best combo around as of right now! PS4 has great many exclusive games that are hard to pass by.

PC/Nintendo Switch/PS4 is the ultimate gaming combo.

For the best games and the most games yes it is the best combo.

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That sounds so new and innovative. No, wait. Vita has been doing it for years.

Are you aware of the fact that a combination can consist of more than two items? The best combo for most games is obviously to own all systems.

Haha ! Sure! PC = Switch, soon.

@nethernova: I dunno. Xbox One wouldn't be that necessary if you had a PC and PS4, would it?

I wonder how comes you didnt have this very same post replied to TC. I see Sheepness in your blood in every post you doing. So irritated if someone says something about Nintendo.

The fact remains. PS4 has wayyyy more exclusives than Switch at the moment so for you to say PC+switch better than PC+Ps4 at this specific moment ... hmm! Stop crying when someone says something else that doesnt meet your personal taste all the time. You starting get predictable here and is not fun anymore.

@AzatiS: Well it's just opinion, right? It has more exclusives but it depends whether those exclusives appeal to you or not. The PC + PS4 option has more more choices right now though; especially considering that the PS4 has been on the market longer.

The main ones for me are Bloodborne, Nioh and The Last of Us 2. Those are the ones I definitely want to own a PS4 to play, but then many of the games I am interested in like Nier, SFV and Ni No Kuni 2 are also on PC. I also want to try Yakuza but I'm willing to hold out since SEGA have expressed interest in bringing those games and more to PC also.

But yeah, it depends on tastes. PS4 has more options but I'm not much at all interested in Horizon or Uncharted 4, for example. I'm personally more interested in the Switch games right now even though Bloodborne and Nioh look so amazing.

You have more options but you need to look into whether those options actually have an appeal to you over something else.

Id say Pc + ps4 pro + switch being the ultimate gamer combo (if you can afford it).

Or if you have nothing and want to buy a cheap gaming machine Id say xbox one s (that includes games and controllers for cheap ) or ps4 slim (also includes games and controllers on good deals) or a cheap pc (but g4560 at 95€ and 1050ti at 180€ + board ddr4 80€ ddr4 8gb ram 65€ hdd1tb 60€ psu corsair 380w 50€ case+ fans 45€ win 10 kingwin 25 and keyboard mouse cheap combo 21) = 600€

With cheap pc at 600€ and consoles at 300€ with included games and controllers (one s or ps4 slim) its obvious that those with not that much money to spend will gravitate to buy a console + games + controllers pack for cheaper.

Or nintendo switch (it can be a main gaming machine by itself)

No its not opinion its a fact you getting triggered the moment i say something that doesnt favor Nintendo.

Its not an opinion if PS4 , has far bigger and better in both quantity and variety library than Switch at this very moment , its a fact. So in short ASIDE die hard fans of Nintendo what you saying doesnt make any sense. Trying to go against facts ?

Its not opinion that PC will be able to play ( it already has i think ) Switch games soon ( and in many countries as long as you have the original disc/cartridge its totally legal to play that way ) .

Its not opinion that NOONE , not even the biggest fanboy in the universe , is really into EVERY SINGLE exclusive a platform offers. So dont tell me right now you are into Zelda and Arms and Splatoon and 1-2 switch the very same way and you like all games the same. No youre not ... Also we cant talk about games that are not even out to justify what is happening right now.

So facts aside lets talk opinions. To me PC+PS4 at this very moment, specially with the limited library Switch has as we speak and the ability of PC to be able to play Switch games soon or later , makes waaaay more sense. THATS my legit and honest opinion based on facts and talk all the shit you want , get triggered , start debates, it wont change anything. Thats an opinion, my opinion , and the only thing you can do is accept it.

Majority of those games are on PC anyways, I own most of them on XOne. I think the Switch and (Console or PC) combo makes sense because of the portable nature of the Switch, and some of its high-profile exclusives like Zelda.

High number of games is not what comes to mind though with the combo you are proposing in the OP, the way I see it the Switch library at this point is Quality over quantity, which for me personally is a good spot to be in. I see a lot of PC gamers here say they buy consoles only for their exclusives, and in real life I know very few people who are like that.

The PC destroys any console in terms of library count, there is absolutely no comparison. Full backwards compatibility as well. The best combo for sheer amount of games, is the PC alone, yeah sure you can get a console on the side for a few exclusives every year, but what is an extra 3 games per year in comparison to the hundreds on PC every year.

@AzatiS: Well

1. You're seeing something that's not there. Relax. If I reply to you, it's because I want to discuss the topic, not because I want to start arguing. Please stop being unnecessarily hostile.

2. I know it's not an opinion that it has a bigger library of exclusives. If you read my post, you can see I agree with you but whether you prefer those options depends on the player. :)

3. No it isn't. It is legal to make your own copy of a game and play it if the original vendor gives you the permissions. It is completely 100% illegal to download someone elses copy of a game online whether you own a disc or cartridge of the game yourself. Source. Source 2. So you're totally wrong there. Some other developers may allow you to make your own ROM of a game using specialized software but you cannot download one online. Emulators are totally legal. Downloading Switch games on PC or copying Switch games to PC is illegal.

4. No, I agree with you, but as I've listed, there are about 4 PS4 exclusives (Bloodborne, Nioh, Yakuza 0, Yakuza Kiwami) in its entire lifespan that I am interested in and the rest are on PC. I would say by the end of the year with Xenoblade 2, Mario Odyssey, Mario + Rabbids, ARMS and Splatoon 2 that I'd already be interested in more Switch exclusives than PS4 exclusives. It's just preferences though. There's no right answer.

5. The fanboy thingy is really not handsome, sweety. Drop that out of the narrative.

That makes sense to me. I think a more accurate view would be not that the Switch library + PC library gives you a larger quantity of games but that the Switch titles released thus far are very high quality and also distinct enough in their own right to stand alongside some other experience.

I think PC + PS4 also makes a whole lot of sense when you consider the appeal games like Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn and Bloodborne will have.

You dont say. However the TC is asking weather A + B is, not A + B + C + D.

Iv owned all systems in the past and IMO its a huge waste of money as most of the time at least two systems go untouched save for a few games throughout their entire gen. If you want to waste money thats fine, but the best combo and value for money is PC and Switch. Best games, most games, best version of games.

1) I see what is a fact. Whenever and every single time the last few months more or less i say something , opinion or fact , that doesnt favor your Nintendo , ALWAYS you and few others get triggered and start debates. And aaalways you play victims as well. Thats a fact. You could easily mention TC in your very first reply to me but no... you said what you said after someone said PC+PS4 makes more sense ... then its all about opinions !! Why you mention that to me and not TC in the first place ? We all know why.

2) The logic says more great options = more people to like something out of this. As i said before lets not be hypocrites and fake the fact that we dont like all exclusives out of systems we like most. Im a hermit and i know i dislike many PC games !! I know im not into ARMS or Splatoon 2 , Mario Kart and Smash bros. I know im not into Killzone and Gran Turismo and The order etc .. I know i dont give a crap about Halo of Forza. Logic says though the system that offers 100 great exclusives vs the one that offers 10 has way more appealing to more people. So a sheep to not agree with that ... isnt suprising.

3) Well think again then because where i live if you buy the game , you own it , theres no law here that will put you in jail because you put that original cartridge into "PC" to play it. I dont know where you live but the only that can chase someone here is Nintendo themselfs for a SINGLE archive or file that you need to make emu play. They need to catch you dling this specific file emu needs and then sue you for doing so. They cant do shit if you have an emu in your PC or play an original game on your PC based on Emu. Not where i live sorry.

So PC = Switch soon or later , you like or not. Thats not an opinion. Legal or not.

4) Well why did you buy PS4 in the first place if you all like are 4 games in 4 years ? Something is off here dont you think ? Also when you say youre interested in ARMS way more than many great PS4 exclusives ... i want to laugh a bit but ok. You just proving me youre sheep more and more. I think you as a sheep all along so it makes sense to me to not be 100% honest also.

5) You are a fan of Nintendo period. If you werent , you and the others around like Ian , Char and few others , you wouldnt get triggered by someone say that PC+PS4 with Switch very close to that makes more sense specially when PS4 is out 4 years already and Switch is few months. You wouldnt disagree with that to begin with.

@AzatiS: You live in Europe so it's illegal there too. What you are suggesting is piracy. Sorry.

If you have the software, you can make a backup of your version of a game. You cannot DL someone elses. Everything else infringes on copyright laws in countries where Nintendo sell their products.

Yes I am a Nintendo fan who prefers Nintendos output generally to Sony's output but it's a matter of taste. I can 100% see the value in a PC + PS4 combo. It's a matter of taste.

The only one that makes less sense to me is PC + Xbox One because nearly all the exclusives criss cross

The combo that works best for me is Xbox One + Switch + PS4 and at the end of the day playing what I like is all that really matters.

I live in specific country with specific rules. Its like saying " you live in USA all laws in different states are exactly the same " ... Are you serious now ?

I wont debate now about EMUs, you like it or not are there. Only on PC that is.

I can tell youre a sheep when you are not letting down anything.

TC : PC + Switch making more sense ?

Azatis : PC >>>> PS4>Switch as of now

Jump : Its about opinion blablabla...

Ofc you are sheep ! You dont have to tell me that. We know , i know. How comes PC+Switch is not a matter of taste and when someone mentions PC+PS4 suddenly = blabla its opinion blabla is taste blabla. Like ill favor a few months system with 1-2 exclusives , ARMS and Splatoon 2 to PS4 that has so many since its out 4 years. That how you show your loyalty and fanboyism

Come on now. We both know what im talking about. Im not against your taste or opinion but there are facts and a general consensus out there for a reason.

As for X1 ... as i said i want never into their exclusives to begin with and now that it hasnt any exclusive to begin with, who cares.

Exactly, I just cannot see how people can survive on a closed system with no utility and 3-4 worthwhile games a year.

The days of saturated gold (roughly 1990-2004) where you would struggle to own/play all the good stuffeven with borrowing are long gone.

I think that if you must absolutely stick to 2 systems then this is indeed the right choice. But the PS4 has so good exclusives this gen that it feels like a crime skipping it. So I think the ultimate combo this gen is: PC, Switch and PS4.

@AzatiS: Okay, sorry. Nintendo decided to sell their products in your country but decided not to have them protected by copyright laws. :P (I doubt it). No, what you're advertising as a viable option for playing Nintendo games on PC is illegal. Software in your country, I guarantee you, is subject to copyright laws.

They are both a matter of taste. If you don't like Nintendo games, then the PC + Switch option makes next to no sense. I replied to your post because I wanted to open a discussion about how preferences govern whether one would choose a PS4 or Switch alongside a PC. The whole fanboy narrative has been driven solely and exclusively by you; largely in part because I think that whole story is kinda childish (Not saying you are childish, just that indulging in fanboy narrations is).

Also the problem with the Xbox One + PC isn't the Xbox One exclusives; it's that those exclusives, by in large are also on PC. They criss-cross nearly completely.

I dont care what Nintendo does. I know noone can put me in jail for having an EMU in my PC though AND i can play games i paid for them legally. You keep going about emus not i. And i never advertised, i said that its legal here if you own the game itself. You like it or not it is. Dont be butthurt about it , its fact.

Theres no taste here. Who gives a crap about your personal taste or mine !! We talking about in general here. So i dont care about individuals opinions, specially when this individual is a fanboy, only about general consencus.

Now keep crying because i said PS4 makes more sense since its a 4 years old console with soooo many exclusives already to go next to a PC vs a product that is out few months and offers 2 exclusives as of now , Splatoon 2 and arms. And then convince me youre not a Nintendo fanboy. Sadly you showing your fanboyism every time.

So , stop crying for once and accept someones else opinion aside yours without get butthurt and feel like starting a debate out of nowhere all the time, every single time someone has to say something about Nintendo. Thanks

EDIT : And if you want to continue this , make me a list with Switch exclusives to prove me Switch has more and far better exclusives than PS4 and is the ideal system , as of now ( keyword here you seems bypassing ), to go next to PC.

Why is everyone ignoring the simple fact, that the Switch is a handheld? This alone makes it better than the PS4 and xOne in combination with a PC. At least if you want to play something on the go. Well... you could argue that mobile is actually the best combo to your PC.

That would be ps4 and pc

@AzatiS: No it isn't. Prove it. Give me evidence. All I can see is that across all of Nintendo's official European and American websites, their stance is that it is illegal to download a rom of their game and play it. We're talking about tight buttoned Nintendo here; this is the company that won't allow fan-games to exist. They aren't going to allow piracy of their products in ANY country. If your country is exempt from copyright laws, then I can't imagine Nintendo would sell their products in your country, but they do; so I'd say the policies are the exact same. I think you're trying to justify your piracy.

This is from Nintendo's Spanish site Source. You will find the same dialogues across all countries in Europe, including mine too. If your country is in Europe, you can bet that downloading Nintendo roms is illegal.

And I agree with you! :P I agree that both PC + PS4 and PC + Switch are both viable options. I'm trying to make it clear distinction that I don't subscribe to this narrative that people pepper about in Internet culture. You need to separate yourself from that and view things for what they are, not what you perceive them to be. You are projecting.

Simply put, I was asking if you agree that it's a matter of taste whether someone opts for either combination. You apparently don't agree and are calling me a fanboy for opting for the PC + Switch combo. That's what you've written.

I have an Xbox One and a PC. Which is obviously the greatest combo of all-time.

I also have a Windows Phone, a Zune, a Surface, a Holo-Lens, a copy of every Windows operating system, and a portrait of Bill Gates hanging in my living room.

@Sam3231: I have Xbox tattooed up the bridge of my nose. Beat that ;)

@jumpaction: @Sam3231:

Good stuff. :D

@AzatiS: Either you don't understand copyright law, or you live in a country with very unusual laws.

Anyway, I'm finding myself playing my Switch a lot more than my PS4 lately. With a few more exclusives (say, over the next 6 months), I think it'd be reasonable to put the Switch ahead of the PS4 as the best secondary system to a PC. In a year or two, there should be no competition.

I'd rather have PS4/Xbox One and Switch