So PC + Switch is still the ultimate combo for pure amount of games?

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#51 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@jumpaction said:

@Sam3231: I have Xbox tattooed up the bridge of my nose. Beat that ;)

I have Steve Ballmer tattooed on my-

You know what, never mind

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#52  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@charizard1605 said:
@jumpaction said:

@Sam3231: I have Xbox tattooed up the bridge of my nose. Beat that ;)

I have Steve Ballmer tattooed on my-

You know what, never mind

Can I see? :)

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@jumpaction said:
@charizard1605 said:
@jumpaction said:

@Sam3231: I have Xbox tattooed up the bridge of my nose. Beat that ;)

I have Steve Ballmer tattooed on my-

You know what, never mind

Can I see? :)

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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@metalboi: Char and I have already spoken to one another while playing games. He knows my gender. :P

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@metalboi said:

lol chaz flirting with a G.I.R.L. guy in real life

Jumpy is a guy tho

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@metalboi: Char and I have already spoken to one another while playing games. He knows my gender. :P

Are you assuming your own gender??

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@pinkanimal: I'm taking a guess and hoping I'm right! :P

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#59 DrLostRib
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No that would still be the PC+PS4

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@drlostrib: With that combo you have the option of Horizon, Yakuza, Persona 5, Puyo Puyo Tetris, Forza, Cuphead, Nier and PUBG all in one year! The PS4 has had a very strong year this year already, not to mention the history the system has had.

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@drlostrib said:

No that would still be the PC+PS4

PS4+Switch?

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I have a huge backlog just being a PS4 only owner. If I had the time, PC & PS4 would do it for me. Because they have more of my type of games.

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@twizded: Time is every gamer's enemy. :(

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#64  Edited By Tigerbalm
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All these combos sound wonderful to me regardless of the consoles or PC. People like what they like, but in my opinion the PS4 should be included in all of those.

However, I'm rolling with the MAC/X1 combo.

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@tigerbalm: It's really jumping from excess to excess. Haha.

Any combination of platforms has more than a wealth of games to play.

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@metalboi said:

PS4 + Switch + 3DS for me.

Throw in the Vita for the odd VN and rhythm game, and this is me

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PC, PS4 and Switch each have their fair share of quality exclusives to offer. It's only Xbone that doesn't.

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@metalboi said:
@charizard1605 said:
@metalboi said:

PS4 + Switch + 3DS for me.

Throw in the Vita for the odd VN and rhythm game, and this is me

Well, I have a Vita and Wii U too, but treat them as step kids. :(

The only reason i still have a Wii U around at this point is Smash, 3D World, and Mario Maker

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#71  Edited By AzatiS
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@Planeforger said:

@AzatiS: Either you don't understand copyright law, or you live in a country with very unusual laws.

Anyway, I'm finding myself playing my Switch a lot more than my PS4 lately. With a few more exclusives (say, over the next 6 months), I think it'd be reasonable to put the Switch ahead of the PS4 as the best secondary system to a PC. In a year or two, there should be no competition.

Well do your research and check what is illegal and what not. EMUs are not illegal to begin with nor the game that is original. Period.

Anyways , i wont go and debate with each individual but as far as EXCLUSIVES go, Switch cant compete with PS4 as of now so for a guy to come and tell me " but but Switchs exclusives " is a nonsense when X console providing x10 more both quantity and variety.

Now as i said i wont go into debates for each individual, specially if he is a sheep. Im talking with general consensus in mind. And besides that who is he or you or i to question what peoples taste is. Since he talks about taste and opinions let me have my own and dont lecturing me (not you generally speaking ) about opinions in the first place. Im not the one got triggered , he was.

And no its not reasonable except if youre die hard fan. Because exclusives wise Switch offering too little atm compared to PS4. I said at the moment and as of now for a reason.

Most great Switch games are on Wii U. Its like saying Pc+Wii U is a better combo than PC+PS4. Well its not except if youre a die hard fan otherwise Wii U wouldnt be dead as we speak for example. So thats not my opinion or your taste or his personal preference. It is general consensus thats why Wii U died.

Now add another fact that not everybody likes every single exclusive Switch is offering and voila. For example i dont care about Arms , Splatoon 2 , kart or Smash remakes and craps like 1-2 Switch. What is left ? Zelda that is not exclusive to begin with and Mario that isnt even out yet ? And with that being said a single game which will cost me more than 400$ to begin with makes Switch better option than PS4 ? A single game that isnt even out yet ? Naaaah !

Thats only if youre die hard fan and you love Splatoon 2 , you love Arms , you love rabbids , you love 1+2 switch and many we can agree. So as i said lets let aside individuals taste and preference and talk things in a generic consensus otherwise we shouldnt even debate in the first place. But some sheep around are so sensitive it cant be helped.

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@charizard1605 said:
@metalboi said:

lol chaz flirting with a G.I.R.L. guy in real life

Jumpy is a guy tho

I can live with that

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PS4 / Switch is the best combo. When I got serious and wanna play intense single player experience, I'll just play my favorite triple A / PS exclusive games on my Ps4. But playing Switch w/ my buddies is the most fun thing to do, especially at parties.

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#74  Edited By AzatiS
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@AzatiS: No it isn't. Prove it. Give me evidence. All I can see is that across all of Nintendo's official European and American websites, their stance is that it is illegal to download a rom of their game and play it. We're talking about tight buttoned Nintendo here; this is the company that won't allow fan-games to exist. They aren't going to allow piracy of their products in ANY country. If your country is exempt from copyright laws, then I can't imagine Nintendo would sell their products in your country, but they do; so I'd say the policies are the exact same. I think you're trying to justify your piracy.

This is from Nintendo's Spanish site Source. You will find the same dialogues across all countries in Europe, including mine too. If your country is in Europe, you can bet that downloading Nintendo roms is illegal.

And I agree with you! :P I agree that both PC + PS4 and PC + Switch are both viable options. I'm trying to make it clear distinction that I don't subscribe to this narrative that people pepper about in Internet culture. You need to separate yourself from that and view things for what they are, not what you perceive them to be. You are projecting.

Simply put, I was asking if you agree that it's a matter of taste whether someone opts for either combination. You apparently don't agree and are calling me a fanboy for opting for the PC + Switch combo. That's what you've written.

Prove what ? That EMUs are not illegal and that only a single file in them is ? That i cant go in jail if i own the original game myself and i have the rights to play it for myself on PC. Well sorry but i can play it and put it even is PS4 , X1 and 3DS if i want and noone can do shit about it. I can put the games files i own in USB and put it on TV player if i want.

Thats not piracy you dummy. I own the game you Einstein !!! Daaamn!! You again putting words in my mouth i never said right ? What roms you talking about , who told you that ? Your ass maybe because i never said anything like that.

No, simply put you little sheep is that the moment you saw me write a post that was stating something "against" Nintendo, you just replied. Thats all you did. I didnt see you say the same to anyone else, just me.

You talking about a combo and atm the exclusives of Switch are Arms/Splatoon 2 and various indie like games. Zelda is not exclusive nor is Kart nor is Smash. With that being said PS4 has way more to choose from for all tastes aka quantity and variety and how not to since is 4 years old.

As i said before there are not a single guy on earth aside die hard fanboys that liking every single exclusive a console offers, period. So with that in mind Switch is not for everyone as you trying to say because at the moment lacks alot of exclusives to begin with since its a very new system. Now if someone love those 2-3 games that much doesnt mean thats what majority does.

With that being said what is someone tells you best combo is PC+XB1. You would say just " ok its about taste " ? No damn it , youll say wait a minute here. Same goes for your favorite system you defending with such passion because is very new system with very few great exclusives. Period.

You can cry all you want about the facts i stated or my opinions but you cant prove me wrong with generic BS of " but each individuals taste ". No, that doesnt work like that.

Make a list of all Switch exclusives as of right now and speak with facts if you want otherwise stop debating for no reason.

EDIT : And last to prove you how butthurt you are, TC asked

" So PC + Switch is still the ultimate combo for pure amount of games? "

Pure amount of games ? Well is not Switch sorry. If that makes you so triggered or butthurt or you feel like reply to my original post so be it but taste has nothing to do with what TC is talking about.

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#75  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@AzatiS: cool man. You don't understand copyright laws.

You condone pirating games. If you download a ROM from the Internet, whether you own a copy of the game or not, it's piracy. I have presented evidence of the fact. That's just it, buddy.

Just relax with the fanboy rhetoric. Like stop though....

Preferences are preferences. People typically like to talk about hobbies. Not everything demands hostility and abrasive responses. Calm down.

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#76  Edited By AzatiS
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@jumpaction said:

@AzatiS: cool man. You don't understand copyright laws.

You condone pirating games.

Keep talking out of your ass. It must be big.

What i own cant be pirated Einstein. Ive paid for it, its mine.

Im waiting the big Switch exclusive list to compare the amount of exclusives Switch is offering yet. TC is talking about pure amount of games not taste or something. Waiting.

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#77  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@AzatiS: So okay. The idea is that with software, you are allowed to make a backup of the software you own. Including games.

That excludes downloading roms from the Internet which is piracy. Downloading roms isn't making a backup, it's supporting file sharing and piracy. Do you see the difference?

You owning a game doesn't give you the right to download shared copies of intellectual property. It's legal to make a copy of a game if you have the software to make a copy of a game. It is not legal to upload or download copies of software from the Internet AKA roms.

I'm not even in agreement with TC. It's taste. My only exception is PC + Xbox One since the overlap in exclusives is so large. PC + PS4 is a great option. :)

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#78  Edited By appariti0n
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PC + PS4 currently offers way more exclusives I care about than PC + Switch. Right now, if I were to buy a switch, it would be for one game. and my rule is there needs to be at least 5 games I care about before I buy any PoS console.

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#79  Edited By AzatiS
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@jumpaction said:

@AzatiS: So okay. The idea is that with software, you are allowed to make a backup of the software you own. Including games.

That excludes downloading roms from the Internet which is piracy. Downloading roms isn't making a backup, it's supporting file sharing and piracy. Do you see the difference?

You owning a game doesn't give you the right to download shared copies of intellectual property. It's legal to make a copy of a game if you have the software to make a copy of a game. It is not legal to upload or download copies of software from the Internet AKA roms.

I'm not even in agreement with TC. It's taste. My only exception is PC + Xbox One since the overlap in exclusives is so large. PC + PS4 is a great option. :)

What the heck are you talking about now ? What backup and what roms has anything to do with what im talking about ?

Who told you about download anything , what the !!

TC asked about pure amount of games not what you liked more. With that in mind common sense says PC+PS4 except the die hard fans like you since Switch is too early to have a complete and massive exclusive library.

Now if youre THAT die hard of Nintendo fan to dismiss all PS4 exclusives the last 4 years to say Switch is better to go along with a PC because of 1-2 Switch , ARMS and Splatoon 2 ... lol. So be it. You again proving my point all along.

We can talk about this in a year or two but as of now, make the list of exclusives you talked about if you dare for head 2 head comparison. Its the third time im asking you.

And im so sorry there is piracy and EMUs on PC but guess what, im not the one making these programs nor the one downloading roms or whatever you talking about. Dont get upset PC can do that though , its another fact you cant avoid.

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#80  Edited By xhawk27
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The Best Combo if you don't have a PC with at least a 1080 or Vega 56 is an Xbox One X + Switch!

The cost of Memory on the 10 line is going to go up next month. The cost of GPUs are already high thanks to mining.

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@xhawk27 said:

The Best Combo if you don't have a PC with at least a 1080 or Vega 56 is an Xbox One X + Switch!

The cost of Memory on the 10 line is going to go up next month. The cost of GPUs are already high thanks to mining.

Honestly, I'd still take even a Ryzen 5 with a 1060 over an X1X. Who cares about 4K if it's at 30 fps?

So it won't hit 4K, but full backwards compatibility, plus access to PC exclusives? Yes please.

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Best combo: PC + emulators :p

I hardly care about Sony or Nintendo exclusives anymore. Thank god Japanese devs support PC more than ever. Tekken 7 on PC, enough said.

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@appariti0n said:
@xhawk27 said:

The Best Combo if you don't have a PC with at least a 1080 or Vega 56 is an Xbox One X + Switch!

The cost of Memory on the 10 line is going to go up next month. The cost of GPUs are already high thanks to mining.

Honestly, I'd still take even a Ryzen 5 with a 1060 over an X1X. Who cares about 4K if it's at 30 fps?

So it won't hit 4K, but full backwards compatibility, plus access to PC exclusives? Yes please.

Yeah that would be a good PC but I'll still choose an Xbox One X for the best console experience and that 4k Blu-Ray Drive.

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For entertainment the "ultimate" is not being the punkbitchfollower, and just enjoy what you personally enjoy because you truthfully enjoy it.

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No that would still be the PC+PS4

nah....

almost 90% of playstation's games are shared with the PC...

owning both is a bit redundant.....

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#86  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@AzatiS: In terms of the topic, the PC and PS4 has a larger quantity of games to choose from but I think it's a matter of opinion which combination works best for which gamer. That's my stance on it. :)

The whole farm animals rhetoric? That's all your thing. I don't really care about all of that. This conversation could have been avoided if you politely explained that your reply was simply regarding quantity as the topic title suggests, but what I received in response instead was immediate hostility. :(

Regarding piracy, the difference is Az that even though something like piracy exists, I don't bring it up like it's a viable option for PC gamers, like myself. I don't mention it, despite its existence because it's illegal. I wouldn't suggest to someone who intends to buy a car that they should steal one instead just because it's an option to them. So if someone told me that they can play Super Mario Galaxy on PC; yes they technically can but it's also illegal and I wouldn't recognize it as a valid way of playing the game.

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#87  Edited By Litchie
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@appariti0n said:

PC + PS4 currently offers way more exclusives I care about than PC + Switch. Right now, if I were to buy a switch, it would be for one game. and my rule is there needs to be at least 5 games I care about before I buy any PoS console.

Pretty good rule. Just out of curiosity, which PS4 exclusives makes you think it goes better with a PC than Switch?

I can think of Bloodborne and Persona, and that's about it. Yakuza doesn't interest me very much..

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Yup.

Their AAA games > Sony AAA games.

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#89  Edited By SakusEnvoy
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PS4, PC, and Switch. I never understood the point of being cheap in this hobby. The fact of the matter is that Switch is being chosen based off of potential rather than actual exclusives. And the PS4 has many AAA and AA exclusives; just because only a couple interests some people doesn't really change that fact.

The only truly interchangeable systems are PC and Xbox One. And PC obviously has a much larger library, so if one system has to get left out, it'd have to be Xbox One. (That said, if you're a big Halo fan, or want to play last-gen games without using a last-gen console, maybe you'd want that too).

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Xbox One and PS4.

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I prefer to own them all.

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#94  Edited By AzatiS
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@jumpaction said:

@AzatiS: In terms of the topic, the PC and PS4 has a larger quantity of games to choose from but I think it's a matter of opinion which combination works best for which gamer. That's my stance on it. :)

The whole farm animals rhetoric? That's all your thing. I don't really care about all of that. This conversation could have been avoided if you politely explained that your reply was simply regarding quantity as the topic title suggests, but what I received in response instead was immediate hostility. :(

Regarding piracy, the difference is Az that even though something like piracy exists, I don't bring it up like it's a viable option for PC gamers, like myself. I don't mention it, despite its existence because it's illegal. I wouldn't suggest to someone who intends to buy a car that they should steal one instead just because it's an option to them. So if someone told me that they can play Super Mario Galaxy on PC; yes they technically can but it's also illegal and I wouldn't recognize it as a valid way of playing the game.

Blabla , whatever !! All this could have been avoided if you would let your fanboyism aside and stick to topic OR as you said , let others have different opinion than yours.

You suck in debates , get over it. Not only you suck but also you coming up with lies ( you did that before ) AND things out of your own ( downloading roms etc ). And all that because someone said PC+PS4 is the way to go if you want pure amount of games as of now since Switch is new and provides VERY limited exclusives ?

Only a fanboy would get triggered by this!!

So i dont know where you saw hostility in my original post or even the one after but you guys getting so triggered when someone says something that is not " Nintendo the best" like that you starting shit all over the place.

TC talking about pure amount of games and you coming to debate if PC+PS4 is far better on that front since its out for 4 years and library wise has far more games , and your logic behind that is " Is about taste " !!? I mean, wtf taste has to do with pure amount of games !!? And you keep debating over this after a whole day !! PS4 has far more variety and far more exclusives, period. You like it or not. Whatever your taste.

Still waiting your list after 5 posts to prove me wrong though still avoiding it so we talk about it with facts.

As far as piracy goes EMUs are not illegal as programs, period. Noone can do shit about that AND owning the original game is not illegal as well. Everything else are things you coming up with out of frustration. Downloads and roms and .. who the hell spoke about download anything or what the heck you talking about ?!! You getting mad for what ? Things i never said or irrelevant to my original point ? PFff

Aside that though is a FACT PCs can emu, not my fault they can. Rage on hackers and people doing that. But .. is an option for PC gamer we like it or not , we know is happening like we know everyone DLed a movie before or a song or anything like that. Thats yet another undeniable fact majority of us did that before, so what ? Youll blame everyone else for doing this shady thing when you download yourself an Mp3 or a movie before ? You cant do that ! So stop putting a show here and try to sound like the most ethical person on earth than never dled anything he shouldnt in his entire life from Internet.

We all , each and every one of us made an illegal thing before. Thats another undeniable fact. So stop it please.

Can you handle facts ? If you do , accept them and move on.

PC+PS4 makes way more sense as of now , amount of games with those 2 exceed PC+Switch by far. Prove me wrong.

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#95 uninspiredcup
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The 2/3DS has a far better library of games than the Switch.

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#96  Edited By appariti0n
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@Litchie: For me it was:

Bloodborne

Horizon Zero Dawn

FFXV (not ps4 exclusive, but still couldn't get on PC at the time)

Nioh

Persona 5

Ni No Kuni 2 and Dragon quest are also ones I'm looking forward to. Tho I will probably buy Ni No Kuni on PC. I keep forgetting that it will be on PC as well.

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@metalboi said:
@rrjim1 said:

Xbox One and PS4.

Worst possible combo you could pick.

No, swap in the Switch for either console would be the worst combo.

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#98  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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@Archangel3371 said:

The combo that works best for me is Xbox One + Switch + PS4 and at the end of the day playing what I like is all that really matters.

@drummerdave9099 said:

I'd rather have PS4/Xbox One and Switch

Kind of in the same boat.

I started as a huge PC gamer in the late 90s but PC gaming these days is usually MOBAs/MMOs/Survival games.

I'd rather just stick to my living room with 3 consoles, after i get the might X1X I'll probably invest in a Switch.

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@jumpaction: it says "Steamer" when it's hanging loose though.

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#100  Edited By DragonfireXZ95
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:
@Archangel3371 said:

The combo that works best for me is Xbox One + Switch + PS4 and at the end of the day playing what I like is all that really matters.

@drummerdave9099 said:

I'd rather have PS4/Xbox One and Switch

Kind of in the same boat.

I started as a huge PC gamer in the late 90s but PC gaming these days is usually MOBAs/MMOs/Survival games.

I'd rather just stick to my living room with 3 consoles, after i get the might X1X I'll probably invest in a Switch.

I have only played 1 survival in like a year and have barely touched any MOBAs or MMOs... You do realize you control what games you play, right?

And the software library is basically 95% the same between the big consoles and PC. Shouldn't spread lies.