So Red Dead Redemption looks just as good as Uncharted 2?!?!(new video)

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#1 Bus-A-Bus
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I cant believe how good this game looks,amazing.IMO just as good as UC2,vistas look even better,animations are top notch and the game is just MASSIVE.:shock:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-life-red-dead/63987?type=flv

Though they have to polish frame rate a bit...

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yeah frames drop a bit for sure. i wonder if its just the video or if the game will actually be dropping frames this frequently.
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yeah frames drop a bit for sure. i wonder if its just the video or if the game will actually be dropping frames this frequently.TheMistique

It wasnt like that on Live,but i have read the previews that state frame rate still dips a bit when alot of action,but they will fix it.Midnight Club LA came with no frame problems hope this wont because it looks beautiful.

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#4 Squall18
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hmm, thats a big claim. Uncharted 2's graphics were crisp...If this is using the same GTA4 engine, then it'll be tough

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#5 eveileb-ekam
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I usually dislike open world games like this.

Yet Red Dead Redemption looks so appealing. :P

Thanks for the vid.

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Looks great. Glad this isn't looking to be the disaster it was turning out to be.
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#7 mythrol
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It's weird, Giantbomb was talking a bit against this game, yet everything I've seen of it screams "awesome".
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#8 Bus-A-Bus
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I dont want to start fanboy war,its just what you guys think.I mean this is the first game since UC2 that really has such appeal its crazy.Textures look phenomenal for open world game,game is MASSIVE,environments and vistas are some of the best i have ever see,animations are sick...everything looks so ambitious that it could very well give UC2 run for its money.

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#9 tehsystemwarior
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Oh man its rated M. Never gonna be able to convince me mom to let me get it. :(. I was really hyping this game too. (My mom sees anything violent and freaks. Especially GTA style games. Oh, and she'll do research if I ask her and find out that it was made by the same company as GTA. Maybe I'll be able to get it on XBLM eventully.
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#10 Bus-A-Bus
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hmm, thats a big claim. Uncharted 2's graphics were crisp...If this is using the same GTA4 engine, then it'll be tough

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Engine does not matter.RAGE is very advanced engine,and GTA4 was first game made by it,but RDR is less populated and is more "emptier".Also i think R* San Diego are better when it comes to graphics then R* North.I mean this video says it all,to bad alot of people are not hyped :(

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#11 Dataleak
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Well, it certainly made me :shock: when I first saw this trailer. UC2 never. I'm still up in arms because it's a really close call. The frame rate drips look really bad though, sometimes looking around the 10fps mark, but overall from that trailer I think it's going to be a close contender.

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Oh man its rated M. Never gonna be able to convince me mom to let me get it. :(. I was really hyping this game too. (My mom sees anything violent and freaks. Especially GTA style games. Oh, and she'll do research if I ask her and find out that it was made by the same company as GTA. Maybe I'll be able to get it on XBLM eventully.tehsystemwarior
How old are you? Depending on your age, you might be able to convince her that youre playing the game from an.... errr... historical perspective ;) I dont know. Surely if you reason with her in a mature manner, she might budge? Im lucky I never have had to experience this. My Dad is a big kid himself, and let me play stuff like Resident Evil and Doom when I was young. My mum just kinda lets us get on with it.
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#13 Devourtosurvive
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I'd say it looks even better.
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#14 KevinButlerVP
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

I cant believe how good this game looks,amazing.IMO just as good as UC2,vistas look even better,animations are top notch and the game is just MASSIVE.:shock:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-life-red-dead/63987?type=flv

Though they have to polish frame rate a bit...

Not even close, plus u actually have to play it on ur HDTV other than just watching it online
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#15 Bus-A-Bus
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

I cant believe how good this game looks,amazing.IMO just as good as UC2,vistas look even better,animations are top notch and the game is just MASSIVE.:shock:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-life-red-dead/63987?type=flv

Though they have to polish frame rate a bit...

KevinButlerVP

Not even close, plus u actually have to play it on ur HDTV other than just watching it online

Oh...just saw your sig,and everything was clear to me ;)

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[QUOTE="Squall18"]

hmm, thats a big claim. Uncharted 2's graphics were crisp...If this is using the same GTA4 engine, then it'll be tough

Bus-A-Bus

Engine does not matter.RAGE is very advanced engine,and GTA4 was first game made by it,but RDR is less populated and is more "emptier".Also i think R* San Diego are better when it comes to graphics then R* North.I mean this video says it all,to bad alot of people are not hyped :(

To be fair R* Table Tennis was the first game made using the RAGE engine. lol I don't think in a screen shot comparison RDR will match UC2; but when you look at the scope and scale of the two games and compare, then it starts getting close. UC2 is so hard to beat because it's art style was AMAZING. I've never seen a developer be able to nail one art style so successfully.
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[QUOTE="tehsystemwarior"]Oh man its rated M. Never gonna be able to convince me mom to let me get it. :(. I was really hyping this game too. (My mom sees anything violent and freaks. Especially GTA style games. Oh, and she'll do research if I ask her and find out that it was made by the same company as GTA. Maybe I'll be able to get it on XBLM eventully.eveileb-ekam
How old are you? Depending on your age, you might be able to convince her that youre playing the game from an.... errr... historical perspective ;) I dont know. Surely if you reason with her in a mature manner, she might budge? Im lucky I never have had to experience this. My Dad is a big kid himself, and let me play stuff like Resident Evil and Doom when I was young. My mum just kinda lets us get on with it.

15. I tried. I wrote her a really good essay for CoD 4 and Halo 3. Got Halo 3, but no CoD. My Dad is worse then my mom. I'm only 15 in my parents eyes when its an oppurtunity for them to give me more jobs around the house. Other then that I'm about 7.
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It's weird, Giantbomb was talking a bit against this game, yet everything I've seen of it screams "awesome".mythrol
:o....what did they say?:evil:

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[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"][QUOTE="tehsystemwarior"]Oh man its rated M. Never gonna be able to convince me mom to let me get it. :(. I was really hyping this game too. (My mom sees anything violent and freaks. Especially GTA style games. Oh, and she'll do research if I ask her and find out that it was made by the same company as GTA. Maybe I'll be able to get it on XBLM eventully.tehsystemwarior
How old are you? Depending on your age, you might be able to convince her that youre playing the game from an.... errr... historical perspective ;) I dont know. Surely if you reason with her in a mature manner, she might budge? Im lucky I never have had to experience this. My Dad is a big kid himself, and let me play stuff like Resident Evil and Doom when I was young. My mum just kinda lets us get on with it.

15. I tried. I wrote her a really good essay for CoD 4 and Halo 3. Got Halo 3, but no CoD. My Dad is worse then my mom. I'm only 15 in my parents eyes when its an oppurtunity for them to give me more jobs around the house. Other then that I'm about 7.

I couldn't help but laugh
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#20 Bus-A-Bus
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="Squall18"]

hmm, thats a big claim. Uncharted 2's graphics were crisp...If this is using the same GTA4 engine, then it'll be tough

mythrol

Engine does not matter.RAGE is very advanced engine,and GTA4 was first game made by it,but RDR is less populated and is more "emptier".Also i think R* San Diego are better when it comes to graphics then R* North.I mean this video says it all,to bad alot of people are not hyped :(

To be fair R* Table Tennis was the first game made using the RAGE engine. lol I don't think in a screen shot comparison RDR will match UC2; but when you look at the scope and scale of the two games and compare, then it starts getting close. UC2 is so hard to beat because it's art style was AMAZING. I've never seen a developer be able to nail one art style so successfully.

You are right...Table Tenis...:)Yes,no way RDR looks better then UC2 in screenshots,but when you see both gameplays,its extremely close.One is much larger with amazing feel of scale and one is intelligently made linear game with much details and great art style,but IMO its still close.

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#21 Dataleak
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="Squall18"]

hmm, thats a big claim. Uncharted 2's graphics were crisp...If this is using the same GTA4 engine, then it'll be tough

mythrol

Engine does not matter.RAGE is very advanced engine,and GTA4 was first game made by it,but RDR is less populated and is more "emptier".Also i think R* San Diego are better when it comes to graphics then R* North.I mean this video says it all,to bad alot of people are not hyped :(

To be fair R* Table Tennis was the first game made using the RAGE engine. lol I don't think in a screen shot comparison RDR will match UC2; but when you look at the scope and scale of the two games and compare, then it starts getting close. UC2 is so hard to beat because it's art style was AMAZING. I've never seen a developer be able to nail one art style so successfully.

That's true. Uncharted 2 probably has one of the best artstyles in a game to date. But I think RDRs open worldness will give it a few pros against UC2s general linearity. I'll probably wait until I've sat down infront of my TV, having a hands on session before I make my final judgment, but so far, I personally think RDR > UC2, just. :P

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SW your so bad for me, the more I see you guys post about this game the more I want it

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#23 tehHaste
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I havn't played uncharted 1 or 2 and if this is what uncharted 2 looks like without all the vibrant colors, then i am not impressed. It looks good but if people are saying this looks as good as UC2 then i don't see what the whole graphics king hype around UC2 was all about.
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Like i have stated in a previous thread, no, it does not look anywhere near as good as U2, because factually U2 is miles ahead of RDR technically...Also, Lemmings please stop hyping up games to de-throne the current console graphics kings, as your attempts have failed numerous times, and its becoming laughable.

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i wouldnt say it has better graphics then uncharted 2. but its definitely more impressive. any game can have good graphics if its as linear as a hallway lol

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#26 SPYDER0416
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Graphically, I would disagree since U2 was sort of built for graphics and 60fps frame rates. RDR is still a day one buy for me, and the awesome enemy reactions (such as limping when shot or grabbing an injured arm) are a toss up from the basic "shoot until dead" enemies of Uncharted 2.

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I'd find it hard to believe an open world game looking better than a linear game (on the same platform).

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Uncharted 2 looks better than this, but it isn't as big. I think Red Dead Redemption is going to be great game too though and graphics shouldn't stop anyone from playing it.
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Like i have stated in a previous thread, no, it does not look anywhere near as good as U2, because factually U2 is miles ahead of RDR technically...Also, Lemmings please stop hyping up games to de-throne the current console graphics kings, as your attempts have failed numerous times, and its becoming laughable.

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What technicals does UC2 push to look better?

Its incredibly narrow and linear,scripted with small a.i count on screen.Great textures,amazing animations and attention to details,but small scale.From what i can see and from what people who played it could see is that RDR has everything of that plus scale,sure textures are bit worse and you cant detail such an massive world like you can single linear path but that still does not make it less technically impressive.

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Like i have stated in a previous thread, no, it does not look anywhere near as good as U2, because factually U2 is miles ahead of RDR technically...Also, Lemmings please stop hyping up games to de-throne the current console graphics kings, as your attempts have failed numerous times, and its becoming laughable.

hamzah1235

like i said...."any game can have good graphics if its as linear as a hallway"....so no its not "technically" better

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Graphically, I would disagree since U2 was sort of built for graphics and 60fps frame rates. RDR is still a day one buy for me, and the awesome enemy reactions (such as limping when shot or grabbing an injured arm) are a toss up from the basic "shoot until dead" enemies of Uncharted 2.

SPYDER0416

Yea but its still 30 fps...

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[QUOTE="tehsystemwarior"][QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"] How old are you? Depending on your age, you might be able to convince her that youre playing the game from an.... errr... historical perspective ;) I dont know. Surely if you reason with her in a mature manner, she might budge? Im lucky I never have had to experience this. My Dad is a big kid himself, and let me play stuff like Resident Evil and Doom when I was young. My mum just kinda lets us get on with it. KevinButlerVP
15. I tried. I wrote her a really good essay for CoD 4 and Halo 3. Got Halo 3, but no CoD. My Dad is worse then my mom. I'm only 15 in my parents eyes when its an oppurtunity for them to give me more jobs around the house. Other then that I'm about 7.

I couldn't help but laugh

Thats not nice :( Ah well, Im sure they have their reasons.
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it looks good, not Uncharted 2 level but its very impressive.
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The game looks really good, but I'm starting to think all these "BETTER THAN UNCHARTED OMG" threads are made by people who have never played Uncharted. Seriously. Super, super hyped for Red Dead, it's right up my alley in every possible way... but it's a huge open-world game, I wouldn't expect the kind of polish that Uncharted 2 has.
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[QUOTE="mythrol"]It's weird, Giantbomb was talking a bit against this game, yet everything I've seen of it screams "awesome".Revolution316

:o....what did they say?:evil:

In the latest bombcast Jeff talked about seeing the game at PAX East. He said he didn't get to play it (something about figuring R* was just toss him out - anyone know the issue between R* and Jeff?) but he said all the people he talked to that did play it were split between 50% saying - GTA4 + Cowboys = awesome, and the others being "meh." Also when discussing it, there just seemed an overall "meh" or dislike towards the game from the people there. No one really seemed excited for it.
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SPYDER0416, Know i realise that you havent played U2, as the game features Animation Blending, a technique created by ND to add layers upon layers of animations, seemingly adding animations that arent limited by the amount of animations created by theanimators. Also, enemies do react to your gunshots fired upon them accordingly and realistically :?

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The game looks really good, but I'm starting to think all these "BETTER THAN UNCHARTED OMG" threads are made by people who have never played Uncharted. Seriously. Super, super hyped for Red Dead, it's right up my alley in every possible way... but it's a huge open-world game, I wouldn't expect the kind of polish that Uncharted 2 has.Hahadouken

I played it and i still think its the best looking game on consoles.Its just that RDR has the same appeal to me,sure it will be less detailed because of the scope and size but its really beautiful and impressive.

I didnt really said in the first place that it looks better.I said it looks as beautiful as UC2 IMO,so i put those question marks ;)

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I could care less if it looks better than Uncharted 2 or not, as it looks phenomenal either way. The fact that it is an open world game and looks this good is especially impressive. I am just going to go ahead and say that it looks better than anything else on the cards right now for me. Not just visually either, but just the game itself as a whole.

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Bus-A-Bus, you obviously havent played U2 as the levels are very large in scope, since the draw distance is fantastic, without actually displaying low res textures like RDR generally...Threre are also moments when there are 20+ A.I. at a given time...

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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"]

Like i have stated in a previous thread, no, it does not look anywhere near as good as U2, because factually U2 is miles ahead of RDR technically...Also, Lemmings please stop hyping up games to de-throne the current console graphics kings, as your attempts have failed numerous times, and its becoming laughable.

Bus-A-Bus

What technicals does UC2 push to look better?

Its incredibly narrow and linear,scripted with small a.i count on screen.Great textures,amazing animations and attention to details,but small scale.From what i can see and from what people who played it could see is that RDR has everything of that plus scale,sure textures are bit worse and you cant detail such an massive world like you can single linear path but that still does not make it less technically impressive.

Scripted and linear doesn't mean ANYTHING. Graphics are graphics. I am sooooo, so sick and tired of this "well this is better because it's open-world" crap. BZZZZZZZZZT. I've said it over and over again, the game might be more "impressive" to you because you factor in the scale, but graphics are how the game looks when you play it, not the technical jargon you know is taking place under the hood. You don't give a game extra graphics points because "well it's an open world game" so it's harder. I don't know why this is such a difficult concept to grasp. It's not just you either, I see this all the time. Halo has TEH SCALE so it's better-looking than KZ2. No, it isn't. It has better scale than KZ2 and that's it.
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[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"][QUOTE="tehsystemwarior"]Oh man its rated M. Never gonna be able to convince me mom to let me get it. :(. I was really hyping this game too. (My mom sees anything violent and freaks. Especially GTA style games. Oh, and she'll do research if I ask her and find out that it was made by the same company as GTA. Maybe I'll be able to get it on XBLM eventully.tehsystemwarior
How old are you? Depending on your age, you might be able to convince her that youre playing the game from an.... errr... historical perspective ;) I dont know. Surely if you reason with her in a mature manner, she might budge? Im lucky I never have had to experience this. My Dad is a big kid himself, and let me play stuff like Resident Evil and Doom when I was young. My mum just kinda lets us get on with it.

15. I tried. I wrote her a really good essay for CoD 4 and Halo 3. Got Halo 3, but no CoD. My Dad is worse then my mom. I'm only 15 in my parents eyes when its an oppurtunity for them to give me more jobs around the house. Other then that I'm about 7.

fail parents. By that time they should have just allowed you to do what you want with your money. its no like any of the store actually enforce the m rating policy of not selling to underage people.
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#42 Dataleak
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I've played and enjoyed Uncharted 2, but it didn't amaze me graphically. Animations were great, but that's due to the developer, not the hardware. If I remember rightly SOTC had better animations then most Xbox titles. Uncharted 2 looked too cartoony for my liking. RDR has a huge open world by the looks of it, pretty decent texture work, incredibly detailed character models, random AI encounters, ect. RDR just impresses me way more then UC2. But like I said, I'll wait until I have the game infront of me before I make my definite decision.

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#43 Animal-Mother
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i wouldnt say it has better graphics then uncharted 2. but its definitely more impressive. any game can have good graphics if its as linear as a hallway lol

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Lol I didn't know U2 was as linear as a hallway, care to elaborate?
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#44 ThePsTriple
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lol no, lems need to stop hyping every game as graphics king its getting annoying, the only game that could touch uncharted 2 is uncharted 3 or maybe killzone 3, multiplats dont even come close.
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#45 Fumpa
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this is one of those rare games that I'm willing to buy brand new.
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#46 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]The game looks really good, but I'm starting to think all these "BETTER THAN UNCHARTED OMG" threads are made by people who have never played Uncharted. Seriously. Super, super hyped for Red Dead, it's right up my alley in every possible way... but it's a huge open-world game, I wouldn't expect the kind of polish that Uncharted 2 has.Bus-A-Bus

I played it and i still think its the best looking game on consoles.Its just that RDR has the same appeal to me,sure it will be less detailed because of the scope and size but its really beautiful and impressive.

I didnt really said in the first place that it looks better.I said it looks as beautiful as UC2 IMO,so i put those question marks ;)

Alright alright I'll accept your technicality. Don't get me wrong in the least, this is my MOST hyped game right now, I am greatly, greatly anticipating it... but Uncharted 2 is a seriously impressive game from a graphical standpoint. I know it gets tiring hearing cows brag about it all the time, but there really is a reason for it. It covers jungles, cities and snow-capped Himalayan mountains with equal aplomb. It's hard to find a bad texture even in a corner you would never expect a normal person to go. They gave that game an unbelievable amount of TLC. I am fully aware that Uncharted is able to look as good as it does because of the limited scale, but it does not take anything away from how it looks. As I said RDR could very well be more impressive, but, looks is looks.
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#47 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"][QUOTE="tehsystemwarior"]Oh man its rated M. Never gonna be able to convince me mom to let me get it. :(. I was really hyping this game too. (My mom sees anything violent and freaks. Especially GTA style games. Oh, and she'll do research if I ask her and find out that it was made by the same company as GTA. Maybe I'll be able to get it on XBLM eventully.tehsystemwarior
How old are you? Depending on your age, you might be able to convince her that youre playing the game from an.... errr... historical perspective ;) I dont know. Surely if you reason with her in a mature manner, she might budge? Im lucky I never have had to experience this. My Dad is a big kid himself, and let me play stuff like Resident Evil and Doom when I was young. My mum just kinda lets us get on with it.

15. I tried. I wrote her a really good essay for CoD 4 and Halo 3. Got Halo 3, but no CoD. My Dad is worse then my mom. I'm only 15 in my parents eyes when its an oppurtunity for them to give me more jobs around the house. Other then that I'm about 7.

You have to write essays to your parents? That sucks. Anyway, this game looks cool.

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#48 Dataleak
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lol no, lems need to stop hyping every game as graphics king its getting annoying, the only game that could touch uncharted 2 is uncharted 3 or maybe killzone 3, multiplats dont even come close.ThePsTriple

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#49 Hahadouken
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this is one of those rare games that I'm willing to buy brand new. Fumpa
Where do you buy used games for a reasonable price a reasonable time after the game comes out? Certainly not EB, even a year old game is like $5 off... effin pirates.
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#50 scar-hawk
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It's weird, Giantbomb was talking a bit against this game, yet everything I've seen of it screams "awesome".mythrol
I know ^_^ The game is made by the same team who made Midnight Club though I believe. So seeing them jump from a racing game to a massive project like this should raise some speculations. But I'm still probably going to preorder this game sometime in May a few days before release :D The game looks really epic and I'm a sucker for a good open world game :P