So Red Dead Redemption looks just as good as Uncharted 2?!?!(new video)

[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]lol bullshots ftw!Hahadouken

Here is Gametrailers review in HD. Bullshots indeed. GT is part of teh conspiracy!

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-hd-uncharted-2/57258

I dont play cutscenes.Im sick of people posting bullshots that look almost better then crysis and then pretend that game looks like that when it clearly uses 2xaa.Even RE5 had some jaggies and it was 4xaa...its normal to have jaggies,its just that people post re touched shoots with much tweaked depth of field,AA and such,its getting ridiculous...

Bus-A-Bus

For the last time, watch the GT review and tell me where all teh jaggies are. Why would GT have a pro-PS3 agenda to hide jaggies?

What's ridiculous is how far lems will go to downplay U2's graphics, play up some new lame title as TEH GFX KING and then slink off quietly when it doesn't deliver.

Quick comparison. I know they're both bullshots but it gives a fair comparison to what we have so far.

Character models. Scale, or detail on screen.Slightly bad pic of UC2, I couldn't find the equivelent on IGN.This dude looks epic. :lol: Not graphically, but how he looks. You know he's going to be a badass.

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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]

GoW3 doesn't have jaggies either, I guess the whole game, during gameplay, is a bullshot, right?

ironcreed: I believe this is the first time I've EVER posted a screen for a game. I'm just tired of this fud, every week it's OMG THIS KILLS UNCHARTED 2 from people who have never played it.

Metro 2033, for example, that was teh graphics king as little as 3 weeks ago.

Hahadouken

GOW III uses MLAA...no jaggies ;)

I dont have to do nothing to prove that those people posting shoots from UC2 are BULLSHOTS,its says 2xaa,thats all you need to know to know game has jaggies.ND did great job with using post processing and bit motion blur to hide them,Dice for example didnt.

Uncharted 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)

Go look at MW2 review and see if there are jaggies.There is no,but still game runs at 620p and 2xaa,and has jaggies.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1113342&postcount=2

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

GOW III uses MLAA...no jaggies ;)

Bus-A-Bus

I dont have to do nothing to prove that those people posting shoots from UC2 are BULLSHOTS,its says 2xaa,thats all you need to know to know game has jaggies.ND did great job with using post processing and bit motion blur to hide them,Dice for example didnt.

Uncharted 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)

Go look at MW2 review and see if there are jaggies.There is no,but still game runs at 620p and 2xaa,and has jaggies.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1113342&postcount=2

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"] Where are the jaggies in the GT review? To what lengths have they gone to cover up the jaggies-in-U2 conspiracy?!?!? :o U2 doesn't have noticeable jaggies, your first two pics were posted specifically to ruffle feathers and I guess you got what you wanted.Hahadouken

I dont have to do nothing to prove that those people posting shoots from UC2 are BULLSHOTS,its says 2xaa,thats all you need to know to know game has jaggies.ND did great job with using post processing and bit motion blur to hide them,Dice for example didnt.

Uncharted 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)

Go look at MW2 review and see if there are jaggies.There is no,but still game runs at 620p and 2xaa,and has jaggies.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1113342&postcount=2

No i posted non doctored screenshots taken by hd card,and people on here post re touched shoots to prove how game looks like(in this case almost better then Crysis) while it actually does not(even if its the best looking game on consoles) just to prove that no game can touch UC2,while there are alot of games that are coming out that are comparable to it.END OF.

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

I dont have to do nothing to prove that those people posting shoots from UC2 are BULLSHOTS,its says 2xaa,thats all you need to know to know game has jaggies.ND did great job with using post processing and bit motion blur to hide them,Dice for example didnt.

Uncharted 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)

Go look at MW2 review and see if there are jaggies.There is no,but still game runs at 620p and 2xaa,and has jaggies.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1113342&postcount=2

Bus-A-Bus

No i posted non doctored screenshots taken by hd card,and people on here post re touched shoots to prove how game looks like(in this case almost better then Crysis) while it actually does not(even if its the best looking game on consoles) just to prove that no game can touch UC2,while there are alot of games that are coming out that are comparable to it.END OF.

alright I have a question for all of you, who really cares which looks better?

While playing your not gonna tell yourselves "man this looks better than uncharted 2"

It doesn't make the game any more or less fun.

Who care's the game looks like it's gonna be a ton of fun regardless.

I don't intend to linger in this graphics war, but I do want to chime in again and say that I think it is obvious that Uncharted 2 is the more crisp looking game with sharper overall textures. RDR looks incredible for it's size and I think it may even best U2's character models. However, the overall environments are not quite as crisp due to the size of the game. I am just stating what should be obvious, but I think this will become apparent when the game releases next month.

alright I have a question for all of you, who really cares which looks better?

While playing your not gonna tell yourselves "man this looks better than uncharted 2"

It doesn't make the game any more or less fun.

Who care's the game looks like it's gonna be a ton of fun regardless.

Animal-Mother

To claim superiority in SW. :twisted: :P

alright I have a question for all of you, who really cares which looks better?

While playing your not gonna tell yourselves "man this looks better than uncharted 2"

It doesn't make the game any more or less fun.

Who care's the game looks like it's gonna be a ton of fun regardless.

Animal-Mother

I agree with all of this, and like I said I normally don't get into the screen posting wars, but this constant "gonna look better than Uncharted 2" crap related to literally every full-priced game released since it is just getting oppressively sickening.

Anyway you're right, I'm done feeding them.

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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"] Oh right, I forgot graphics =/= reading a spec sheet and not what the actual game looks like to your eyes. You posted the worst pics of U2 you could find, end of story.Hahadouken

No i posted non doctored screenshots taken by hd card,and people on here post re touched shoots to prove how game looks like(in this case almost better then Crysis) while it actually does not(even if its the best looking game on consoles) just to prove that no game can touch UC2,while there are alot of games that are coming out that are comparable to it.END OF.

I never contradicted my self.When did i claimed reviews and everything for UC2 is touched up,WHEN?ND sends reviewers those shoots which are obviously bullshots that people are posting here,that does not change the fact that UC2 looks amazing,but its loooong way from not a single jaggie and 2xaa covered by postprocesing and blur.And i did not use touched or doctored shoots,I used video,which still has jaggies and will have when it comes out because it will probably be 2xaa,but it looks amazing.

When did i claim several games will look better?You are very defensive mate.I said that some unreleased games look comparable,COMPARABLE.That does not mean they look better or worse,but Last Guardian,RDR,Alan Wake,Crysis 2(most likely),RAGE,GT5...all look amazing and comparable to UC2,will it look better?We dont know.Do they look comparable?Yes.END OF.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

alright I have a question for all of you, who really cares which looks better?

While playing your not gonna tell yourselves "man this looks better than uncharted 2"

It doesn't make the game any more or less fun.

Who care's the game looks like it's gonna be a ton of fun regardless.

Hahadouken

I agree with all of this, and like I said I normally don't get into the screen posting wars, but this constant "gonna look better than Uncharted 2" crap related to literally every full-priced game released since it is just getting oppressively sickening.

Anyway you're right, I'm done feeding them.

You are defensive,nobody said it will look better.Alot said it looks somewhat equally beautiful or impressive,take it as you want but not it will look better.

It looks damn good, especially for a sandbox game. But I don't think it looks as good as Uncharted, first thing that pops to mind is the environments don't really have much to it.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

alright I have a question for all of you, who really cares which looks better?

While playing your not gonna tell yourselves "man this looks better than uncharted 2"

It doesn't make the game any more or less fun.

Who care's the game looks like it's gonna be a ton of fun regardless.

Dataleak

To claim superiority in SW. :twisted: :P

alright I have a question for all of you, who really cares which looks better?

While playing your not gonna tell yourselves "man this looks better than uncharted 2"

It doesn't make the game any more or less fun.

Who care's the game looks like it's gonna be a ton of fun regardless.

Animal-Mother

No doubt. Uncharted 2 looks great and was a blast to play. RDR looks great and appears that it will be a top shelf experience as well. In the end, getting the best of both worlds is where it is at instead of arguing over which one has better looking grass, ect, lol.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

alright I have a question for all of you, who really cares which looks better?

While playing your not gonna tell yourselves "man this looks better than uncharted 2"

It doesn't make the game any more or less fun.

Who care's the game looks like it's gonna be a ton of fun regardless.

ironcreed

No doubt. Uncharted 2 looks great and was a blast to play. RDR looks great and appears that it will be a top shelf experience as well. In the end, getting the best of both worlds is where it is at instead of arguing over which one has better looking grass, ect, lol.

I hope I haven't given you that impression. I saw the worst pics ever of U2 and posted 2 better ones in response. This is about as petty as I get.

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

alright I have a question for all of you, who really cares which looks better?

While playing your not gonna tell yourselves "man this looks better than uncharted 2"

It doesn't make the game any more or less fun.

Who care's the game looks like it's gonna be a ton of fun regardless.

Hahadouken

No doubt. Uncharted 2 looks great and was a blast to play. RDR looks great and appears that it will be a top shelf experience as well. In the end, getting the best of both worlds is where it is at instead of arguing over which one has better looking grass, ect, lol.

I hope I haven't given you that impression. I saw the worst pics ever of U2 and posted 2 better ones in response. This is about as petty as I get.

No, I actually think that you were just stating what should be obvious. Those were horrible pics of Uncharted 2, and in no way represent what the game looks like,lol.

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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"]

SPYDER0416, Know i realise that you havent played U2, as the game features Animation Blending, a technique created by ND to add layers upon layers of animations, seemingly adding animations that arent limited by the amount of animations created by theanimators. Also, enemies do react to your gunshots fired upon them accordingly and realistically :?

Hahadouken

Want to explain why I have a platinum trophy on U2 then? And enemies do have a reaction, but compared to RDR its like they got hit with a small rock.

Ignorant statements like these make my day here.

Its not like its a bad thing, I can tell when I've shot someone in a specific area in U2 and he stutters a bit, plus I understand that having a guy limping and bleeding profusely to death would no have made it into a Teen game like UC2. Still, its pretty ignorant to say I haven't played the game, I was just pointing out the visceral differences when you shoot someone.

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[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

No doubt. Uncharted 2 looks great and was a blast to play. RDR looks great and appears that it will be a top shelf experience as well. In the end, getting the best of both worlds is where it is at instead of arguing over which one has better looking grass, ect, lol.

ironcreed

I hope I haven't given you that impression. I saw the worst pics ever of U2 and posted 2 better ones in response. This is about as petty as I get.

No, I actually think that you were just stating what should be obvious. Those were horrible pics of Uncharted 2, and in no way represent what the game looks like,lol.

Its my fault.I posted pics that are taken by hd card,that still does not represent what game looks like,i started stupid picture wars,sorry guys ;)

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]

I hope I haven't given you that impression. I saw the worst pics ever of U2 and posted 2 better ones in response. This is about as petty as I get.

Bus-A-Bus

No, I actually think that you were just stating what should be obvious. Those were horrible pics of Uncharted 2, and in no way represent what the game looks like,lol.

Its my fault.I posted pics that are taken by hd card,that still does not represent what game looks like,i started stupid picture wars,sorry guys ;)

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]I dont play cutscenes.Im sick of people posting bullshots that look almost better then crysis and then pretend that game looks like that when it clearly uses 2xaa.Even RE5 had some jaggies and it was 4xaa...its normal to have jaggies,its just that people post re touched shoots with much tweaked depth of field,AA and such,its getting ridiculous...

Hahadouken

For the last time, watch the GT review and tell me where all teh jaggies are. Why would GT have a pro-PS3 agenda to hide jaggies?

What's ridiculous is how far lems will go to downplay U2's graphics, play up some new lame title as TEH GFX KING and then slink off quietly when it doesn't deliver.

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Want to explain why I have a platinum trophy on U2 then? And enemies do have a reaction, but compared to RDR its like they got hit with a small rock.

Ignorant statements like these make my day here.

SPYDER0416

Its not like its a bad thing, I can tell when I've shot someone in a specific area in U2 and he stutters a bit, plus I understand that having a guy limping and bleeding profusely to death would no have made it into a Teen game like UC2. Still, its pretty ignorant to say I haven't played the game, I was just pointing out the visceral differences when you shoot someone.

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[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

No, I actually think that you were just stating what should be obvious. Those were horrible pics of Uncharted 2, and in no way represent what the game looks like,lol.

Chutebox

Its my fault.I posted pics that are taken by hd card,that still does not represent what game looks like,i started stupid picture wars,sorry guys ;)

I played it,and to me its the best looking game on consoles,but people post super downsampled 16xaa shoots to prove something so i just said f it ill find real taken by card shoots.Its not how game really looks in motion when you play it from your sofa ;)

I cant believe how good this game looks,amazing.IMO just as good as UC2,vistas look even better,animations are top notch and the game is just MASSIVE.:shock:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-life-red-dead/63987?type=flv

Though they have to polish frame rate a bit...

Bus-A-Bus

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]I dont play cutscenes.Im sick of people posting bullshots that look almost better then crysis and then pretend that game looks like that when it clearly uses 2xaa.Even RE5 had some jaggies and it was 4xaa...its normal to have jaggies,its just that people post re touched shoots with much tweaked depth of field,AA and such,its getting ridiculous...

mtmatt

For the last time, watch the GT review and tell me where all teh jaggies are. Why would GT have a pro-PS3 agenda to hide jaggies?

What's ridiculous is how far lems will go to downplay U2's graphics, play up some new lame title as TEH GFX KING and then slink off quietly when it doesn't deliver.

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

I cant believe how good this game looks,amazing.IMO just as good as UC2,vistas look even better,animations are top notch and the game is just MASSIVE.:shock:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-life-red-dead/63987?type=flv

Though they have to polish frame rate a bit...

SaltyMeatballs

Lol true. But some parts of that video it seems it crawls to 10-15fp at times. Hopefully this only occurs after it's loaded, and the textures are being loaded.

[QUOTE="mtmatt"][QUOTE="Hahadouken"]

For the last time, watch the GT review and tell me where all teh jaggies are. Why would GT have a pro-PS3 agenda to hide jaggies?

What's ridiculous is how far lems will go to downplay U2's graphics, play up some new lame title as TEH GFX KING and then slink off quietly when it doesn't deliver.

Hahadouken

I'm not trolling, I'm being genuine. Certain parts of that video made my jaw drop more then Uncharted 2. :? And I never claimed RDR to be superior graphically, I said it's a strong contender.

Every game looks better than uncharted 2 among thieves.

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="mtmatt"] You slam the "lems" yet it is the same TC that creates this topic every week and your always the first to feed. I don't understand why he needs a game to best U2 graphically, as another poster said it won't make the game anymore fun. That said I don't care how much U2 looks better than RDR or AW, I know what I'd rather play.Dataleak

I'm not trolling, I'm being genuine. Certain parts of that video made my jaw drop more then Uncharted 2. :? And I never claimed RDR to be superior graphically, I said it's a strong contender.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

I cant believe how good this game looks,amazing.IMO just as good as UC2,vistas look even better,animations are top notch and the game is just MASSIVE.:shock:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-life-red-dead/63987?type=flv

Though they have to polish frame rate a bit...

Dataleak

Lol true. But some parts of that video it seems it crawls to 10-15fp at times. Hopefully this only occurs after it's loaded, and the textures are being loaded.

[QUOTE="mtmatt"][QUOTE="Hahadouken"]

For the last time, watch the GT review and tell me where all teh jaggies are. Why would GT have a pro-PS3 agenda to hide jaggies?

What's ridiculous is how far lems will go to downplay U2's graphics, play up some new lame title as TEH GFX KING and then slink off quietly when it doesn't deliver.

Hahadouken

I wasn't aiming those remarks at you. just generally speaking.

Every game looks better than uncharted 2 among thieves.

nhh18

[QUOTE="Dataleak"]

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"] Yeah you've got me on feeding the trolls, no defense to that, but I have never said a single word about Game A being more enjoyable than Game B, and I've never even insinuated that graphics make a game more fun. I just refuted those horrible screens, that's all, and even in doing that I've been more petty than I wanted to be. Sorry.Hahadouken

I'm not trolling, I'm being genuine. Certain parts of that video made my jaw drop more then Uncharted 2. :? And I never claimed RDR to be superior graphically, I said it's a strong contender.

Oh, when you said trolls (plural), I thought I was included. My bad. This threads getting confusing. :lol:

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

Its my fault.I posted pics that are taken by hd card,that still does not represent what game looks like,i started stupid picture wars,sorry guys ;)

Bus-A-Bus

I played it,and to me its the best looking game on consoles,but people post super downsampled 16xaa shoots to prove something so i just said f it ill find real taken by card shoots.Its not how game really looks in motion when you play it from your sofa ;)

So you post sloppy screens that don't do the game justice to balance it out or something?

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

I cant believe how good this game looks,amazing.IMO just as good as UC2,vistas look even better,animations are top notch and the game is just MASSIVE.:shock:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-life-red-dead/63987?type=flv

Though they have to polish frame rate a bit...

SaltyMeatballs

I don't think I liked anything visually about GTA. It was just a total let down for me.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

I cant believe how good this game looks,amazing.IMO just as good as UC2,vistas look even better,animations are top notch and the game is just MASSIVE.:shock:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-life-red-dead/63987?type=flv

Though they have to polish frame rate a bit...

Chutebox

I don't think I liked anything visually about GTA. It was just a total let down for me.

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Everyone has said the game looks far better than that. You know, people who actually played it. Maybe you should take the hint.

Chutebox

I played it,and to me its the best looking game on consoles,but people post super downsampled 16xaa shoots to prove something so i just said f it ill find real taken by card shoots.Its not how game really looks in motion when you play it from your sofa ;)

So you post sloppy screens that don't do the game justice to balance it out or something?

No actually no,that were shoots taken by card and not downsampled and doctored like major rest from this thread,it still not what you play on tv but neither are 99% of pics that you see on SW.Actually,now that i think people shouldnt even bring pictures,should post video or it didnt happen...

uhm no. Uncharted 2 LOOKS BETTER than Read Dead. will it be a better game? maybe. does it look better? no.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

I played it,and to me its the best looking game on consoles,but people post super downsampled 16xaa shoots to prove something so i just said f it ill find real taken by card shoots.Its not how game really looks in motion when you play it from your sofa ;)

Bus-A-Bus

So you post sloppy screens that don't do the game justice to balance it out or something?

No actually no,that were shoots taken by card and not downsampled and doctored like major rest from this thread,it still not what you play on tv but neither are 99% of pics that you see on SW.Actually,now that i think people shouldnt even bring pictures,should post video or it didnt happen...

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

So you post sloppy screens that don't do the game justice to balance it out or something?

Chutebox

No actually no,that were shoots taken by card and not downsampled and doctored like major rest from this thread,it still not what you play on tv but neither are 99% of pics that you see on SW.Actually,now that i think people shouldnt even bring pictures,should post video or it didnt happen...

No i dont have to realize,i played it and i think its best looking game on consoles,i just thought its better to post capture card shoots(even if they are not representative of game when you play it from sofa) then ultra doctored shoots.

http://i41.tinypic.com/bf5o3d.jpg

This one still looks better then 99% of bullshots from other games out there,plus bit of blur postprocessing and sofa,TADANNN :D

looks like gta4 in the old west. could be good or could get repetitive fast since theres only horses to ride.

Woooow, the game looks great, not sure if it can match U2 especially when it comes to details ........... need some reviews.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

No actually no,that were shoots taken by card and not downsampled and doctored like major rest from this thread,it still not what you play on tv but neither are 99% of pics that you see on SW.Actually,now that i think people shouldnt even bring pictures,should post video or it didnt happen...

Bus-A-Bus

No i dont have to realize,i played it and i think its best looking game on consoles,i just thought its better to post capture card shoots(even if they are not representative of game when you play it from sofa) then ultra doctored shoots.

http://i41.tinypic.com/bf5o3d.jpg

This one still looks better then 99% of bullshots from other games out there,plus bit of blur postprocessing and sofa,TADANNN :D

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Ok, as long as you realize that's not how it looks when played then I have no beef. And yes, screw pictures. Seriously, videos or nothing!

Chutebox

No i dont have to realize,i played it and i think its best looking game on consoles,i just thought its better to post capture card shoots(even if they are not representative of game when you play it from sofa) then ultra doctored shoots.

http://i41.tinypic.com/bf5o3d.jpg

This one still looks better then 99% of bullshots from other games out there,plus bit of blur postprocessing and sofa,TADANNN :D

Thats the truth

[QUOTE="nhh18"]

Every game looks better than uncharted 2 among thieves.

Animal-Mother

I like how he put the whole game title :)