So the PS4 has BASICALLY won this gen right?

I asked the same question before and I was told, wait for teh bundles teh pricecuts teh titanfall... well DAMNIT, NOTHING is saving the Xbone.

I ask as a concerned naysayer, can the XBone continue to take this pounding from Quad? Isn't it pretty much over?

I mean LITERALLY all Xbone has left is Halo... and that will pretty much flop like everything else that has released on the Bone. Looks like this gen is a wrap... #AmIright?

PS: Michael Pachter really set lems up this time.

Phil Spencer is in charge now. So...Maybe Microsoft will bring out new IPs and good old IPs (Gears, Fable, Banjo-Kazooie, Conker, Perfect Dark, etc.) and sell some more consoles, who knows? He seems to know what he's doing...I hope.

Plus the Wii U still has a lot of big hitters coming out...So yeah.

The PS4 will probably end up "winning" this generation. However, I wouldn't underestimate Microsoft and Nintendo. Anything can happen.

Yes it did... And I still don't want it. Haha ! :p

It's too early to say, anything can happen.

It basically won the beginning of the gen.

Bookmark this and we will see how the middle and end go.

See you back here in 8 years.

Agreed,

Sony had a way better launch. Microsoft shot themselves in the foot in the begging of the race. Saying it had to be online to play games, that the kinect was required, also with NSA getting only bigger, really didn't pull in the buyers with that game plan. Also they focused to much on things like TV integration and not on games But they pretty much have fixed all those issues , at this point it looks very close.

i mean, if you considering "winning" as selling the most but having no games then i guess. you're basically saying the ps4 is the wii without the great exclusives.

@mems_1224

You're just scratching the surface of the stupidity in system wars.... It goes so deep it will blow your mind ! :o

I'd think so, but anything can happen. Also, what are the current sales figures for everything?

ps4 is a multiplat box 5club

Id like to see the Wii-U get some traction. But MS.. whatever they will bring out, Sony has more of. I mean seriously, MS JUST ONLY started taking exclusives serious again

Yep, game over.

Just like PS3, Xbox One will never catch up...

PS4 has MORE AND HIGHER rated games than Bone. #Facts

Its only going to get worse for MS sales wise, so yeah Sony won. The xbone needed to do much better in its 1st year if it wanted to have a chance. People have made the PS4 their console of choice. At the rate the X1 is going it wont even out sell the 360's first year figures. MS needs a good holiday season if it wants to stay competitive.

And the Wii U has the highest rated game over the PS4 and Xbone. #rekt

Use that line again when the Xbone is $200 more expensive than the PS4 and launches a year later. #OWNED!

Of all fanboys, Sony fanboys should know that they shouldn't judge the sales so early on, given how the PS3 caught the 360 at the end of the gen.

Edit: I've had at least 5 people reply to me saying "but the 1 year head start". This is irrelevent to my post. Just assume first year sales for example. The second point is that the PS3 and 360 actually had very similar first year sales, but this still goes with my point; despite the PS3 and 360 having the same first year sales, Sony managed to pull ahead with the years following, which still shows you shouldn't judge so early on in the generation.

Just wait for China

Just wait for Halo

Just wait for RIIIIIIIIIDGE RAAAAAACEERRRRRR

@mems_1224:

Stay mad Bro lol.

You guys act like winning the console wars is like flipping a switch or something.

Still waiting LOL

Yeah, it's over.

The Wii U is a joke and the Xbox is not a threat. The two consoles are too similar, and people will continue to go for the one with more power (no one wants to settle for 900p when they can have 1080p).

Microsoft has Halo and... that's pretty much it. It won't save the console, just like Mario Kart didn't save the Wii.

@Shewgenja

The console's sales os directly tied to their self esteem.

lol, wtf?

You proved my point for me...

Xbox was more expensive and the lead of the PS4 is currently about the same (about 5-6million).

Not seeing the ownage.

1yr lead is irrelevant given how the PS3 and Wii caught up.

So Sunset Overdrive, Halo 5, Tomb Raider, Gears of War, Fable Legends, Scalebound, Ori and the Blind Forest, Crackdown 3, Quantum Break and Below are all going to fail?? Somehow I think the X1 is in very good hands with Phil Spencer running the show!!

What is it that the PS4 has that you Cows are all fired up about? I mean you had Killflop Shadowflop, Driveflop, nick KNACK patty whack and oh wait ANOTHER open world game in Infamous SS. Bloodborne is nothing more than Nightmare Creatures meets Devil May Cry meets Demon Souls meets Diablo 3 but isn't as good as any of them and LPB 3 just isn't as big a deal as you Sony fanbots want it to be! If Halo is tired and is set up to flop as you say, then you better get ready for the thousands of copies of Uncharted 4 in the bargain bins because that series is done!! Just like most PS4 games, Uncharted 4 is looking to be all style and no substance. 1080p doesn't mean shit if the games are lame, tired and boring!!! Ooooh, another jungle romp with Ethan Hunt. Yes, a treasure hunter that plows through 1000's of some of the dumbest AI baddies ever created!!!

We are almost a year into this generation and while the PS4 has a dominant lead over the X1 at this point, it would be very, very foolish to count out MS this early in the game. I mean after its disasterous, horrible start didn't the PS3 eventually catch up to the 360 in sales?? The 360 had a full year head start and the race wound up being a dead heat to date.

Wii U - Best exclusives of this gen.

Which console is providing a stable 1080p lineup. (Both systems have 1080p games but the systems can't support 1080p on all the released games.)

this gen has hardly begun

no games...

PS4 will most likely win this generation, but nothing is ever guaranteed. There is at least four years left in this generation, which is plenty of time for Xbox One to possibly make a comeback.

Generally when a company is on top, they get arrogant thinking that they can't be beat and then start to slack off. Meanwhile the losing company works their assess off to get the number one position. Eventually the consumers take notice and the tide turns. That's exactly what's been happening between Microsoft and Sony. Sony was on top with the PS2 which made them get arrogant and lazy with the PS3 while Microsoft worked their asses off to make the 360 an innovative console with a great game library in the first half of last gen. The consumers took notice and Xbox started beating PlayStation. Then Microsoft started getting arrogant and lazy in the second half of last gen while Sony started working their asses off to improve the PS3 and make the PS4 everything that gamers wanted. The consumers eventually took notice and PlayStation started beating Xbox again. Now it's pretty obvious that Sony has definitely been on cruise control since the PS4 launch while Microsoft has been working their assess off to make the Xbox One a better product and offering lots of deals to consumers. It will take time, but I think eventually this will lead to Xbox beating PlayStation again; it might not happen this generation, but eventually it will.

Yet nintendo exclusives are getting AAAAE ratings.

How have they been working their asses off? They have been on damage control for the past year.

Well, geez. I don't even get why they care. The next gen is TV. Achievement unlocked!

@navyguy21:

This has been done to death. 360 only had a sales lead on PS3 because of its year head start. PS3 always sold more worldwide. PS4 and One launched at the same time and PS4 is increasing the gap. In order for One to pull a PS3 it'll have to sell more than PS4 worldwide. It's not even doing that in its best market America. It's selling horribly in Europe. Let's be realistic here, X1 isn't pulling a PS3.

@Shewgenja

Sometimes TV can be challenging. :)

You are responding to me as if i said it IS catching up.

My responses were that it was POSSIBLE, meaning the Xbox One would have to outsell PS4 worldwide as PS3 did 360.

Nobody is saying it WILL happen, but what TC is saying is to write off XB1 simply because it is behind and currently being outsold.

People did the same with PS3. It doesnt matter HOW it got behind, or what the circumstances were. Either way it is still possible through some hard work, exclusives, and price drops.

The circumstances are everything, though. The XBone shares none of the advantages the PS3 had in its gen. Also, the format war had to be won before people trusted that PS3 was a worthwhile buy.

@starwolf474: The thing is Xbox wasn't winning. It had a headstart but was losing worldwide sales. Was Xbox winning America? Yes, worldwide? No.

Most likely will. Also, I don't see how the Wii U will sell as much as the Xbox One, since multi-plats sell consoles too, not just exclusives, and it doesn't look like the Wii U will get a gigantic system seller like Wii Sports was for the Wii.

PS4 has no games though.

the PS4 and Wii U is destroying the Xbone

That just seems like an extremely simplified way of looking at it. Going by that logic, we could never compare gens unless all of the parameters were the same. Of course HOW the xbox catches up matters according to WHY it is behind and WHAT Sony does with the PS4. Also depends on economic conditions and the way the market goes in the next few years.

You cant really account for many of the variables. The bottom line that im arguing (because its really the only thing that matters) is that the Xbox is behind. It is possible to catch up, sure. Anything is possible. HOW it gets there is another argument altogether.

I really dont understand why you (and a few others) keep trying to argue that the variables arent the same. It really doesnt matter.

The PS3 was behind for a ton of reasons and caught up for a ton of reasons. At the end of the day, it was behind and took a specific patch to catch up.

I'd buy a XB1 asap if that happens

Unlike the Wii Ps4 have great and many multiplats ...lol

Depends on what you're considering "winning."

Is winning considered selling the most consoles, is it considered having the best games; maybe a combination of both?

Personally, I believe consoles should mainly be judged on its game libraries. Otherwise, what do consoles have? What's the whole point of a console: to play games right? I'd think the console with the best games is winning...

And the PC still has more than the PS4. Whats your point? Unless you think 2nd place=winning. Your little league lied to you, participation doesn't count. Must suck to suck bro.

Would love to see TC's bullshit from the last time he made this thread repeated.

@mems_1224: Ok, but this thread is about PS4 and One.... Didn't you say PS4 has no games? Your bullshit gets debunked then you deflect to PC and ask him what's his point? What was your point then by saying PS4 has no games? You know you're defeated when you pick straws to win any argument lol.

The point is that the PS3 had advantages over the 360. The Xbone has none. That's not fanboy hyperbole. Everything that was cited as a drawback of the PS3 turned into a strength over the course of the hardware cycle except one thing being ease of development.

You can't say that XBone will be able to come back like the PS3 did without analyzing the things that allowed the PS3 to come back and be a contender.

BluRay was an albatross for the first year or two because of the format war with HD-DVD.

Cell was fairly unproven as an advantage until MGS4 came out and then Uncharted. Before better looking games came out on the PS3, it was just "Sony overhype". Are you actually willing to bet the Cloud is as solid a bet as Cell was? So be it if you are, I won't hate on that, but MS sure hasn't said anything about Cloud graphics in a long time now.

Free online is a wash now. PSN started out tragically bare-bones. Now both services are paid-for and up to par.

Price is also a non-factor this gen. In fact, PS4 started with the advantage.

First party support.. MS has so much catching up to do in this department and still does. While the 360 was off to a successful start, they let Bungie escape their grasp and closed Ensemble. Meanwhile, Sony continually leveraged pedigree developers right into 2013 for the PS3. The same can not be said of the Xbox.

To understand why the XBone is faltering world wide in grand fashion, you can't look at these things in a vacuum. The PS2 finished very strong and the PS3 was a blundered launch of a flawed product. The 360, comparatively, ended generation 7 on a weak note with its focus on Kinect and complete reliance on third party offerings to carry it to the finish line. When it came time for the Xbone to be architected and launched, it was a product of the same flawed thinking that allowed the PS3 to catch up in market position. The Xbone isn't going to fight tooth and nail to pull out a victory. It's only hope of that is for Sony to blunder and blunder BIG somehow. The XBones struggle is to remain relevant. It's the N64 all over again.

Any rational person would say yes, it did win.

ps4 has no games. not my fault. get mad at sony, not me.