So the PS4 has BASICALLY won this gen right?

How am i having a meltdown? Until you tagged in a post, I hadn't posted in this thread in over a day. And you seem to have a very serious misconception about what platform(s) I support

3 games... out of how many that are 1080P? That LEMMING LOGIC.

Bone be struggling to maintain 25FPS with 900P.. *dies*

Except you said 1080p and 60fps

...and I'm not a lemming.

When you know TC is a bad troll:

I'm happy with the PS4. I play multiplats on it, as well as exclusives. It doesn't matter to me. If people weren't happy with it, the sales would have plummeted by now.

Also, it's not like Sony will slow down the development of exclusives just because the PS4 is selling well. They'll want to keep the pedal to the metal to make the console as successful as possible.

..what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Them tears keep flowing *chews popcorn*

GONNA BE A LONG GEN LEMS! and I'll be here to keep you updated lololol

This is a race, between three companies, to sell as much as possible. They are all trying to "steal" market share from their competitors. How hard is that for you to understand?

It doesn't matter if their games are the best or if they provide unique experiences, the viability and continuation of their product(s) is based on numbers alone. There is only room for one at the top and, this time, it's going to be Sony. You'll just have to learn how to deal with that.

PS: I'd be worried about losing credibility, but I'll be 100% honest: I think most of you here are clinically insane... seriously. Seek help.

Let me know when the PS4 has enough good games to make it a worthwhile purchase

@lostrib: sales say it already has plenty of worthwhile games

Not as far as I can tell

@elpresador-911:

don't waste your time with lostrib. He's an Xbox fanboy that poses as a Hermit. 90 percent of his time Is spent damage controlling for X1. He's a brick wall, don't bother.

I think that right now it's anyone's game. I'm not sure how long these particular consoles will stay relevant but all it takes is a few good exclusives and it could shift things in a different direction.

None of that is true. And I thought it was pretty clearly pointed out to you last time

People comparing PC and WiiU to the PS4 is just dumb in this regard.

WiiU is out much longer than the PS4 and it's not like the PC came out with a whole new generation of PC with different architecture.

Pretty sure the global economy cannot continue the direction it is going for 8 more years. See you after a social revolution.

Maybe everyone will game on PCs in 8 years...

@X_CAPCOM_X: I totally agree with you! Prepare for the apocalypse!

While cows keep worrying about sales, the Xbox One gets another great title in Fantasia: Music Evolved. Lol at cows

PS4 won this gen, at this point the install base is just too great. With that being said though, that doesn't mean the XB1 will be irrelevant. During the PS2 domination era, most of my favorite moments from that era are from the OG Xbox, still had many on PS2 but majority for me was from OG Xbox.

Singstar sold over 20 million copies back in 2009. Let that sink in.

because the gaming industry is decided by what you think amirite? oh wait. Good thingy no one cares what you can tell or not.

@Krelian-co: I never said it did. Just that for me the PS4 didn't have games that woukd make it a worthwhile purchase at the moment .

I guess at this point we have enough sampling of sales data to know that the PS4 will indeed be the winner between consoles this gen. I mean, yes, there are some good games going for it, but Sony's big guns didn't even hit yet... GT, Uncharted, GoW, etc... and it's selling like this...

All sales say is that it's selling. Though I do think it's got some good games. I've played Don't Starve almost until I starved myself... Infamous SS, BF4 and AC4 were quite fun as well.

@tormentosstill butthurt over driveclub flopping, rotfl!

There was no possibility that the Xbox One was ever going to avoid being absolutely destroyed by the PS4.

Microsoft's first failure in the console market, the Xbox bombed in worldwide sales with only 24 million sold. Almost entirely from the US and UK with some minor territories making up the remaining userbase.

After the first Xbox fiasco, Microsoft dumped their first console marketplace failure and immediately came out with a second console that:

1. Was rushed out the door a year early(and a year and a half early in Europe) to try to pad out their installed base numbers.

2. Was 200 dollars cheaper than the PS3

3. Due to Microsoft's incompetence in console hardware design and engineering mixed with their frantic push to get anything out the door to inflate their installed base numbers had hardware problems on a scale never seen before in the console world that resulted in Xbox owners in the US and UK going out and buying 3,4,5+ duplicate consoles with the desperate hope that each new Xbox 360 model would finally fix the RRoD, jet engine loud noise, disc scratching/destroying last gen DVD drives, etc. 10s of millions of duplicate Xbox 360 consoles massively padded out Microsoft's installed base numbers from their true value

4. A 500 million dollar relaunch marketing campaign when Microsoft finally came out with their Sony Eye Toy ripoff - Kinect.

5. Sony completely dropping the ball and letting Microsoft enforce their sickening 'parity clauses' in third party development contracts that gimped multiplatform games down to Xbox 360 graphics levels and features.

All that and Microsoft still got dumped into last place by Sony and the PS3.

Only someone utterly detached from reality would ever believe the Xbox One was going to compete with the PS4.

Microsoft has been dead in 2 out of the 3 major console markets since the day it first made their disastrous entry into the console market. It is absolutely asinine for anyone to believe that after 13-14 years of failure in the Europe and Japan that the Xbox One was going to magically start selling Playstation numbers in those two regions.

And with no more RRoD leading US and UK Xbox owners to buy massive numbers of duplicate consoles, sales have crashed back to original Xbox levels in those two markets.

Microsoft's shiny green bunnyhopping power ranger, 'teh Cloud', magic SDK updates, review scores, pathetically fake Xbox fanboy fabricated vgchartz 'sales numbers', whoever is the latest clown running the Xbox program, delusional fanboy techno babble about console graphics hardware are going to make any difference than they did for the Dreamcast fifteen years ago.

With the sole exception of the three years of so the Wii fad was in full force Sony has been the top selling console maker worldwide each month/year non-stop since 1994 when they first entered the console market. Anyone still butthurt about how badly Sony is beating the crap out of Microsoft has no one to blame but themselves.

No dude you hide on PC to bail out the freaking xbox one console trying to diminish the gap between both console by using the gap PC has is a joke,fact is not every one has your PC and the majority of PC gamers are below PS4 standards.

You are not the first sad lemming who always cheer for PC bhut as son as the xbox one get freaking own by the PS4,it PC hiding time,and all of the sudden the gap doesn't matter because PC is stronger,like if some one with a PS4 or an xbox one will care about what your PC can or can't run the game on.

You are an idiot and hiding on patriotism on a fu**ing product build with Chinese hand when you are an American is a joke,feel Patriotic about the F22 Raptor those are not built in China.

Engineer.? Are you fu**ing for real,The xbox one and PS4 are built by off the shelve PC parts there is nothing that would make any one feel proud about them,is old tech from several years ago..lol

I already explained how you hid on PC.. You are a joke.

The PS3 outsold the Xbox 360 every single year in worldwide sales going all the way back to the very first where the PS3 sold 10.5 million versus the Xbox 360's 8.5 million.

And, no, the Wii did not outsell the PS3 for the 'lion's share' of the time. Wii sales collapsed after roughly three year when the PS3 took over top selling console worldwide each month and has been to this day.

Xbox One still rolling in great games. That Kinect is leveling higher rated games than the ps4 by itself.Cows meanwhile are still hung up on sales and resolution wars.. classic.

Don't worry, the ps4 is still getting some multi-year old pc ports and indie games im sure..

Trying to brag about the single most hated thing in all of gaming...Microsoft's failed Eye Toy ripoff...Kinect...OK.

Yep, Sony will have:

1. The largest first party studio array of any console maker

2. Massive support from independent developers

3. PC game developers

4. Massive support from Japanese developers

5. And increasing number of larger third party developers who are starting to dump the Xbox One has the PS4 continues to destroy it in sales and make it increasingly not worth the effort to wast time on the platform or have to gimp/downgrade their games just to support a dead console.

Meanwhile Microsoft and its already pathetically small first party lineup blew 2.5 billion on fucking Minecraft. Just imagine how dominant Microsoft will be if they spend another 2.5 billion on Flappy Bird? LOL.

@gfxpipeline: And how is that working out for you? What are you playing on your ps4 its first year?

On my xbox one, i've played Dead Rising 3, Forza Motorspot 5, Ryse, Killer Instict,Titanfall, Kinect Sports Rivals, Dance Central Spotlight, Forza Horizon 2, Project Spark, Fantasia: Music Evolved... and will be adding Sunset Overdrive and the Master Chief Collection very soon. All of which aren't available on ps4 nor are indie games nor old PC ports.

This doesn't even go into the superior online service, features, apps and support on the Xbox One.

It's okay to admit the ps4 is left wanting.

No surprise the Xbox One is in last place and getting destroyed by the PS4 in sales from that list.

How can I bail out the X1 when the statement by me that you quoted began with the "X1 is not as powerful as the PS4"? You haven't explained or proven anything. You're a sad debater.

So if you google PS4 or X1 engineers they don't exist? You are so sad and you speak such bullshit.

As for YOU, a non American telling me, an honorably served veteran of the United States what I can feel patriotic about LOL.

You're fucking child.

@pikachudude860: lol Conker. lol Banjo. lol Perfect Dark. all irrelevant now and destroyed by Microsoft, stolen from Nintendo and their great legacies on N64.

15 years later, Microsoft is doing the same shit. Shoving wads of cash into dominantly-Playstation developers like Insomniac and signing exclusive timed deals for games like Tomb Raider

A Cowturd CANNOT even answer the guys question and resorts to rambling about sales. LOL.

He listed you games he's playing/will play on his X1, how bout providing games YOU are currently playing?

1. Prove it, where are these games you speak of.

2. and the Xbox One hasn't? Xbox 360 had loads and now its coming to Xbox One

3. and the Xbox One hasn't, if anything this is better on Xbox One

4. for Japanese players

5. Prove it, not one developer has said they are dumping Xbox One. No matter what the gap there is still plenty of consoles out there to make it worth while. You think Microsoft will sit back and do nothing.

All bull and no substance.

Brief reminder for my lemming friends that the Xbone is fighting to not be third for the rest of the gen and has no games.

""The X1 IS NOT AS POWERFUL AS THE PS4. But I have a PC for POWER that wipes its ass with the PS4.""

Irrelevant crap this is what you say and you try to downplay the PS4 with your so call PC,regardless of you admitting what can't be fu**ing deny the PS4 been more powerful than the xbox one,you HIDE ON PC that for power you have a PC,not every one has your PC or one strong enough period you hid on PC.

The xbox one was engineer for shit it was a slight modification of something already done,how the fu** can you feel patriotic about the xbox one engineers when the PS4 has the same CPU a GPU from the same family and Ram that is not slow,if anything i would be shame they make an APU that has more transistors than the PS4 one yet it considerably weaker.

I am an American you blind moron,and my grandfather and my father both served i am, Puerto Rican you moron we are US citizens since birth and before you even dare to claim that just because you live up north and i live in the caribean all people born in America are Americans that include those born in Brazil,argentina,colombia Mexico,canada American are all those born on any of the Americas,that is a faulty logic been use by people who think only certain people have the right to be call that.

Unless you are descendant of Sitting Bull or any native American yeah you are just another descendant from Emigrants.,and your story is not allot older than ours,after all you were discover 1 year before use by the same people.

You are the child and a blind moron who has to resort to patriotism to justify a freaking crap ass console,if anything i would feel shameful the damn Japanese make a console $100 cheaper than doesn't look like an 80's VHS and was more powerful..lol

360's PDZ AAAE and Banjo N&B AAE means MS destroyed the IP's not to mention the awesomness of the Rare's new IP the VP's and nothing was stolen quite the contrary, MS paid mega bucks to "N" for Rare so umm, you couldn't be mooaar wrong.

Sadly though no freakin new Conker but I'm not giving up, perhaps X1 will get a new One. :P

SMH Torture-toes. Do you ever let anything go? He serves and you have to one up him by bringing up Indians? Then you bitch about loving consoles? That is why we are all here. You will be forever at the bottom around here on the respect level.

DR3 on PC.

Ryse on PC.

Titanfall on PC.

Forza Horizon 2 on 360

Project sparks on PC.

That leaves you with what.? Forza 5,KI and a barrage of crappy kinect games..?

Killzone,Infamous,Flower,Resogun,Sound Shapes,FF,MLB,TLOU 95% (highest rated games this gen so far)Drive Club,Tower fall,Injustice,Velocity 2X (release 1 week ago and has 86% as good as FH2) Oddworld new n tasty,Sport Friends,Don't Starve,Transistor...

The only 2 games on that list lower than 80 on gamerankings are Killzone and DC,the rest all are over 80%,several higher than several games on xbox one which are not on PS4 like Titanfall,

Since you like multiplatforms so much i make you a nice list..lol Ryse..a 60 game..lol 4 here and people like you have the face to even talk about Drive club which has 5 here and 70+ on meta...hahahaha

Noted. Damn, what would I do with out you to remind me of these great things?

Let's just exercise some logic in here since this thread has already gone 7 pages.

What can the XBox do to beat the PS4? Let's just come up with things for the sake of academic argument.

I am brazilian, and we also call those born in the USA "americans". It's just a lot more practical than any other more formally correct term.

And you bringing native indians to say that they are "native americans" is just so wrong... to begin with, because for them there is/would be no "American" continent, this is a western civ. concept (derived from the explorer Amerigo Vespucci). There's no such thing as not being american (not in relation to the country, but the continent) because you descend from immigrants. You only happen to be an american with european/asian/african/oceanian descent.

Puerto Rican? American? What?

MS needs to stop giving me sweet free games (GWG) every month making my backlog on 360 sky high. Seriously think many just won't give up their 360 right now for an X1. Late next year will be the sweet spot for X1 me thinks. X fans are gonna want Halo 5 no matter what.. So there ya go, as Mick would say, time, time, time, is on mah side, yes it is..... :P

I'd rather have new games that happen to come to PC at some point in the future than OLD PC games now coming to my console. I see a lot of indie and re-releases of old games on your list. I'd be extremely disappointed if i were you and paid $400 for a console to play primarily indie games and old pc ports. All bolded games are either old, indie, or both by the way. That leaves killzone , infamous and mlb...

The metacritics and gamerankings scoring is flawed for comparison as well. Example: How can the exact same game score a 90 on ps4 but only an 86 on the xbox one (diablo)? Answer=there are more sony review sites padding scores

But is a wrong term non the less used by miss informed people or those who believe that only people born in certain part of NA can be call Americans,is one of the most fu** up terminologies ever,one which i think has its roots in blind patriotism, or down right racism.

But those are describe like native Americans,and they didn't call them self Americans that is a term which came after it was re discover.

If you want to go that technical then we are all Africans probably,isn't are older relative comes from there.?

Fact is patriotism over a crappy ass console which isn't even build by your country in the first place is a joke.

Some people are just to dumb and actually say stupid things without thinking look at cainetao11 post..

I am not American because my country is not part of the 50 states..hahaha

Tell that to the patriotic moron who believe that only people born in 1 of the US 50 states are Americans..hahaha

Tormentos... that's all lunacy. Lose that prejudice and all those assumptions and generalizations. Re-read my post and see who is calling for technicality there for no reason.