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#101 Odrec
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How about no! Wrong you are, silly noob.

360 + Live = $350. There you go, happy gaming.

HotRevolver

10 year Xbox life cycle according to MS themselves. So lets say with an average of 5 years...

50*5= 250

360 + 5 years of Live = $550

There you go, now you don't even need the wifi, imagine if you did :lol:

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#102 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="HotRevolver"]

How about no! Wrong you are, silly noob.

360 + Live = $350. There you go, happy gaming.

Odrec
10 year Xbox life cycle according to MS themselves. So lets say with an average of 5 years... 50*5= 250 360 + 5 years of Live = $550 There you go, now you don't even need the wifi, imagine if you do :O :lol:

Finally, someone made the bleeding obvious point.
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#103 WilliamRLBaker
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So i have to buy a wifi adaptor? odd though i own one which i found for 50 bucks, I didn't know i was forced to use it Last i checked i was able buy a ethernet bridge for 30-40 bucks and it worked.

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#104 boba707
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[QUOTE="gamerlifegrace"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"] So then you did not provide a 'real cost' analysis for the 360 and the PS3? You provided a highly contextual and occaisonally fictional one.Danm_999

now youre just overreacting. Im done with this thread.

How am I overreacting? Real promises some measure of truth. Not only did the TC add things that didn't need to be added, he made up prices. In what sense is all that 'real'?

i added my own assumption of prices which will most likely be much lower than the actual price
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#105 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="gamerlifegrace"]

now youre just overreacting. Im done with this thread.

boba707

How am I overreacting? Real promises some measure of truth. Not only did the TC add things that didn't need to be added, he made up prices. In what sense is all that 'real'?

i added my own assumption of prices which will most likely be much lower than the actual price

So then, that's not real. Can't you see the problem with pretending this is all somehow objectively true?

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#106 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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i added my own assumption of prices which will most likely be much lower than the actual priceboba707

Now that one I'll give you. If they release this BD add-on there is no chance in hell it'll be less than $200.

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#107 boba707
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i cant handle the ignorant and arrogant people on this board you fail to realize what my point is.
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#108 Danm_999
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i cant handle the ignorant and arrogant people on this board you fail to realize what my point is.boba707

I realize what your point is. There's actually a lot of merit in some of it (the XBL price part in particular). If you had to have Wi-FI, Blu-ray and online; buying the PS3 is cheaper than the 360 and all the accessories that requires.

My problem is that you're trying to pass this off as a 'real' cost. It's not a 'real' cost. People do not NEED to buy these items. One of the prices is not 'real' in any sense of the word, it is made up.

The very criteria you've given is constructed in order to cast the cost of the 360 in a bad light is 'unreal', you add and subtract factors in order to influence the outcome.

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#109 Epak_
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[QUOTE="Epak_"]

[QUOTE="boba707"]

300 for the xbox +
100 for wifi adapter +optional
100 blu-ray add-on +WTF?
50 for xbox live
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boba707

Shows how much you really know about the subject. :roll:

im going to ask you to read the article over at destructoid or read previous comments before you question my knowledge

Hahah... you got me. Blu-ray add-on eh, never would have thought about that. The wifi adapter is still optional, expensive as **** but still optional. I can do well without it.

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#110 opi-14
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Don't forget about add Natal project for upgrade on xbox 360

-Natal project $200

What's wrong with Wii??

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#111 delta3074
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300 for the xbox +
100 for wifi adapter +
100 blu-ray add-on +
50 for xbox live
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boba707
wi-fi=not needed,blu-ray drive=not needed (it's only fo films,not for games), yet another thread claiming the initial price of a 360 is greater than the ps3, another thread that fails miserably
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#112 opi-14
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I'm happy with my PS3. I got new experience.

360 is nothing and nothing for life.

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#113 delta3074
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TC should really learn what the word 'accessories' actually means, it generally means stuff that isn't needed, as in a blu-ray drive that won't be needed to play games, i don't know about you, but i bought my 360 to play games,not movies.
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#114 raahsnavj
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300 for the xbox +
100 for wifi adapter +
100 blu-ray add-on +
50 for xbox live
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Grand total = 550$

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boba707
300 for the X360 0 for the Wifi - (why use wireless when you can have a reliable LAN line and hook it up to your distant computer and stream everything to your huge 50"+ TV? who actually would use wifi for this?) 0 for the blu-ray - Really? people pay double a DVD for minor improvements of quality. 50 for x-live - if you want to play online... I agree, this should be free. but the biggest question is, why would you get one this late in the game? You either have a X360, a PS3, or you don't really care about this gen of games. As such just get s PS3 slim... it will have all the games you need for your few hours you play a week anyhow.
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#115 Trmpt
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I do not pay 50 bucks for live (I pay 30 for a year).

jasonharris48

Where is everyone finding these $30 a year cards?

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#116 felixlynch777
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Don't forget repairs for all the problems the 360 has.

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#117 Midnightshade29
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[QUOTE="boba707"]

300 for the xbox +
100 for wifi adapter +
100 blu-ray add-on +
50 for xbox live
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Grand total = 550$

speak your mind

jasonharris48

Don't need the wi-fi adapter, a blu-ray add on doesn't exists (you shouldn't make stuff up) and I already own a PS3 anyways, I do not pay 50 bucks for live (I pay 30 for a year).

You may not need wifi, but a lot do. MY co-worker owns an xbox360 and he has a kid on the way, and owns a house, he doesn't have much extra income. He had to buy some second rate cheap wifi for the 360 as the $100 one was just too much money for that. He gets dropped connection and bad speeds, it takes a long time to download anything and streaming of videos /online gaming is not possible. He can't use ethernet in his living room without spending just as much money on cords and routing it in the wall. No one with a house is going to leave the cords running up the stairs etc...unless they are a complete slob family or live by themselves. The wifi is needed by a lot of people.. His brother in law lent him a ps3 and he praises the wifi in it... Why is it that the 360 is the only electronics device without wifi? Even the ds and psp have it, M$ is a greedy company, and nikel and dime people, and the sooner people except that the better, they need a quick dose of the pride hammer that Sony got smashed with during the ps3 launch.... it's the only way M$ will learn.. otherwise expect more crazy prices and $100 live fees like patcher said.

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#118 Trmpt
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Don't forget repairs for all the problems the 360 has.

felixlynch777
You got jipped.
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#119 opi-14
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TC should really learn what the word 'accessories' actually means, it generally means stuff that isn't needed, as in a blu-ray drive that won't be needed to play games, i don't know about you, but i bought my 360 to play games,not movies.delta3074

It's very important blu-rayfor me. I bought PS3 is high definition game and high definition movie. I enjoy them on PS3 is Super Console.

xbox 360 is nothing for me.

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#120 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]TC should really learn what the word 'accessories' actually means, it generally means stuff that isn't needed, as in a blu-ray drive that won't be needed to play games, i don't know about you, but i bought my 360 to play games,not movies.opi-14

It's very important blu-rayfor me. I bought PS3 is high definition game and high definition movie. I enjoy them on PS3 is Super Console.

xbox 360 is nothing for me.

important to you, NOT important to me, if i want a blu-ray player (which i don't) then i will buy a stand alone one, as it is i have a PC that is geared towards watching movies, it has a 19" wide screen x198hd monitor, it has realtek HD audio, and you do know all 360 games play in 1080p, whereas very few games on the PS3 do, you enjoy your films in a better resolution, i will enjoy my games in a better resolution,because the ps3 is nothing for me with it's sub-standard game resolutions
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#121 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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Funny... I work in a shop that sells xbox 360's, I seem to remember them being 159.99 - 199.99 ?
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#122 Shinobi120
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Don't forget about add Natal project for upgrade on xbox 360

-Natal project $200

What's wrong with Wii??

opi-14

The thing is, a lot of people aren't going to buy it.

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#123 opi-14
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[QUOTE="opi-14"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]TC should really learn what the word 'accessories' actually means, it generally means stuff that isn't needed, as in a blu-ray drive that won't be needed to play games, i don't know about you, but i bought my 360 to play games,not movies.delta3074

It's very important blu-rayfor me. I bought PS3 is high definition game and high definition movie. I enjoy them on PS3 is Super Console.

xbox 360 is nothing for me.

important to you, NOT important to me, if i want a blu-ray player (which i don't) then i will buy a stand alone one, as it is i have a PC that is geared towards watching movies, it has a 19" wide screen x198hd monitor, it has realtek HD audio, and you do know all 360 games play in 1080p, whereas very few games on the PS3 do, you enjoy your films in a better resolution, i will enjoy my games in a better resolution,because the ps3 is nothing for me with it's sub-standard game resolutions

that's right. I agree with you. if you want buy a blu-ray player. that your money.

I know all 360 games are not native 1080p on screen but xbox360 has expensive in optical disc drive for upscale 1080p.

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#124 opi-14
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[QUOTE="opi-14"]

Don't forget about add Natal project for upgrade on xbox 360

-Natal project $200

What's wrong with Wii??

garland51

The thing is, a lot of people aren't going to buy it.

LOL! MS love business is business.

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#125 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="opi-14"]

It's very important blu-rayfor me. I bought PS3 is high definition game and high definition movie. I enjoy them on PS3 is Super Console.

xbox 360 is nothing for me.

opi-14

important to you, NOT important to me, if i want a blu-ray player (which i don't) then i will buy a stand alone one, as it is i have a PC that is geared towards watching movies, it has a 19" wide screen x198hd monitor, it has realtek HD audio, and you do know all 360 games play in 1080p, whereas very few games on the PS3 do, you enjoy your films in a better resolution, i will enjoy my games in a better resolution,because the ps3 is nothing for me with it's sub-standard game resolutions

that's right. I agree with you. if you want buy a blu-ray player. that your money.

I know all 360 games are not native 1080p on screen but xbox360 has expensive in optical disc drive for upscale 1080p.

the DVD ROM drive in the 360 is not expensive, i can pick one up for 20 quid, and at least all our games are upscaled to 1080p the ps3 can't even manage that with most ofit's games,lol,you are funny,you don't need the blu-ray add on to get films or play games in upscaled 1080p, you don't know much about the 2 consoles do you really
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#126 Shinobi120
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[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="opi-14"]

Don't forget about add Natal project for upgrade on xbox 360

-Natal project $200

What's wrong with Wii??

opi-14

The thing is, a lot of people aren't going to buy it.

LOL! MS love business is business.

Just explaining to you on what will happen. Do you honestly think a lot of 360 owners are going to pick this up & use it to play games with? You're dreaming.

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#127 opi-14
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[QUOTE="opi-14"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]important to you, NOT important to me, if i want a blu-ray player (which i don't) then i will buy a stand alone one, as it is i have a PC that is geared towards watching movies, it has a 19" wide screen x198hd monitor, it has realtek HD audio, and you do know all 360 games play in 1080p, whereas very few games on the PS3 do, you enjoy your films in a better resolution, i will enjoy my games in a better resolution,because the ps3 is nothing for me with it's sub-standard game resolutionsdelta3074

that's right. I agree with you. if you want buy a blu-ray player. that your money.

I know all 360 games are not native 1080p on screen but xbox360 has expensive in optical disc drive for upscale 1080p.

the DVD ROM drive in the 360 is not expensive, i can pick one up for 20 quid, and at least all our games are upscaled to 1080p the ps3 can't even manage that with most ofit's games,lol,you are funny,you don't need the blu-ray add on to get films or play games in upscaled 1080p, you don't know much about the 2 consoles do you really

I admitted....I don't know about the 2 consoles. now you're happy.

I owned PS3 (60gb) is still alive and blu-ray players for movie.XD

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#128 opi-14
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[QUOTE="opi-14"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]

The thing is, a lot of people aren't going to buy it.

garland51

LOL! MS love business is business.

Just explaining to you on what will happen. Do you honestly think a lot of 360 owners are going to pick this up & use it to play games with? You're dreaming.

I'm not. MS is dreaming about business.

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#129 Spanks113
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My god another one of these threads. Please stop...
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#130 opi-14
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My god another one of these threads. Please stop...Spanks113

I know this mad cows. :shock:

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#131 boba707
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@delta3074 bluray is for gaming as well as video, most if not all ps3 titles are on bluray discs
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#132 delta3074
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@delta3074 bluray is for gaming as well as video, most if not all ps3 titles are on bluray discsboba707
i was talking about the 360, i don't need the blu-ray add on to play games on my 360, and i don't need one to watch films on, my PC is HD and is more than adequate, therefore i do not need a blu-ray addon, where the hell did i say blu-ray wsn't used for gaming, do you think MS are going to start releasing all there games on blu-ray and completely shaft there entire install base? i don't think so
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#133 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="opi-14"]

that's right. I agree with you. if you want buy a blu-ray player. that your money.

I know all 360 games are not native 1080p on screen but xbox360 has expensive in optical disc drive for upscale 1080p.

opi-14

the DVD ROM drive in the 360 is not expensive, i can pick one up for 20 quid, and at least all our games are upscaled to 1080p the ps3 can't even manage that with most ofit's games,lol,you are funny,you don't need the blu-ray add on to get films or play games in upscaled 1080p, you don't know much about the 2 consoles do you really

I admitted....I don't know about the 2 consoles. now you're happy.

I owned PS3 (60gb) is still alive and blu-ray players for movie.XD

i am glad you enjoy your console, i enjoy mine, we are both happy, the ps3 is a good machine, i just prefer the 360.
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#134 dommeus
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300 for the xbox +
100 for wifi adapter +
100 blu-ray add-on +
50 for xbox live
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Grand total = 550$

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boba707

You're about a year too late.

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#135 opi-14
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[QUOTE="boba707"]

300 for the xbox +
100 for wifi adapter +
100 blu-ray add-on +
50 for xbox live
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Grand total = 550$

speak your mind

dommeus

You're about a year too late.

Sony is much late on drop price to $300 system. almost 2 years:P

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#136 daveg1
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who says you need all that extra stuff its just there if you want it..
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#137 loudharley
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I guess i can subtract the wifi adapter from the cost because i dont need one.Also i dont need a blue ray addon considering i have a ps3 that i dont buy bluerays for.Blue rays are to expensive right now so i can take a hit on the picture quality and just buy a cheaper dvd.At the end of the day no matter what system u own your gonna end up chucking money out through out any consoles life.I dont understand why so many threads pop up about how much money 360 will run u in the long run when the ps3 is pretty much the same way.Yea they have a blue ray player,wifi and free online but look how long it took them to realize that they tried to do to much to fast and it hurt them in the long run because sony is in last as far as total systems sold.There finally starting to see an uptick in system sales now that they have the price at a decent level but will it last ?I guess 360 owners are shelling out more money for there system because there actually buying games for there system.
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#138 Trmpt
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[QUOTE="opi-14"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]

The thing is, a lot of people aren't going to buy it.

garland51

LOL! MS love business is business.

Just explaining to you on what will happen. Do you honestly think a lot of 360 owners are going to pick this up & use it to play games with? You're dreaming.

Mark my words, Natal will not be just an add-on. It doesnt make any sense for it to JUST be an add-on.
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#139 delta3074
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[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="opi-14"]

LOL! MS love business is business.

Trmpt

Just explaining to you on what will happen. Do you honestly think a lot of 360 owners are going to pick this up & use it to play games with? You're dreaming.

Mark my words, Natal will not be just an add-on. It doesnt make any sense for it to JUST be an add-on.

i have a feeling it will be an add-on this gen, but next gen i think it will be an integral part of MS next console, a sort of overpowered nintendo wii setup, you won't need a wiimote, your hand will become the tennis racket,lol
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Not many people is going to be running a 10m ethernet cable just to hook up a console in the living room, yet people still claim that they do. Same deal with the arcade model arguement. :?

360's value pales in comparison now that PS3 is at the same price point.

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You forgot the car cost, the gasoline cost, the cost of the house and/or apartment, the cost from electricity, the cost for the HDTV, and the surround sound, and don't forget the $200 monster HDMI cable.
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#142 Epak_
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Not many people is going to be running a 10m ethernet cable just to hook up a console in the living room, yet people still claim that they do. Same deal with the arcade model arguement. :?

360's value pales in comparison now that PS3 is at the same price point.

Gxgear

Better than paying $100 for a frigging wifi-adapter.

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#143 Shinobi120
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[QUOTE="trmpt"] Mark my words, Natal will not be just an add-on. It doesnt make any sense for it to JUST be an add-on.delta3074
i have a feeling it will be an add-on this gen, but next gen i think it will be an integral part of MS next console, a sort of overpowered nintendo wii setup, you won't need a wiimote, your hand will become the tennis racket, lol

I seriously doubt that will happen. Not if X-Box fans have anything to say about it. Even if it does, they'll still offer X-Box controllers for people to play in which it will be all compatible with games.

Better than paying $100 for a frigging wifi-adapter.

Epak_

Exactly. Wi-Fi isn't exactly all perfect as many people would think. As a matter of fact, you can get a used 120 GB HDD for around that same price, if you look hard enough. It's more useful than an expensive Wi-Fi adapter.

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#144 Gxgear
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[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Not many people is going to be running a 10m ethernet cable just to hook up a console in the living room, yet people still claim that they do. Same deal with the arcade model arguement. :?

360's value pales in comparison now that PS3 is at the same price point.

Epak_

Better than paying $100 for a frigging wifi-adapter.

True, but personally I would rather not have the choice made for me before the purchase.

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#145 Pixel-Pirate
Member since 2009 • 10771 Posts

300 for the xbox +
100 for wifi adapter +
100 blu-ray add-on +
50 for xbox live
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Grand total = 550$

speak your mind

boba707

I don't have any of that stuff. I don't play my 360 online so I don't have xbox live. I don't have a wifi adapter and I don't think a bluray add on exists.

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#146 Kokuro_Kun
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How can you do anything without electricity. That could run you 200$ easy!
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#147 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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For the love of god will people stop making these threads.

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Yes, please D=
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#148 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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Ps3 £250 Head set £25 HDMI cable £20 Charge cable longer than a metre £ 5 New hard drive after all the installs £ 70 New controller after 1st one dies £ 40 grand total £ 410 see what i did there You could also had added a play and charge cable for the 360 £ 15 50inch samsung back light 1080 p LCD TV £1200 Wireless head set £35 CD's to make advantage of the custom sound tracks £100 for 12 or so

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#149 James161324
Member since 2009 • 8315 Posts

another poorly made theard by another cow.

First off.

blueray for gaming. sony as failed to prove that it has the abilty to make better games over dvd 9. with the rare exceptions of a couple games. why blueray is better.

but until most ps3 games look better than the 360's. like all the cows say they should be.

i am not buying the blueray equals better games.

Blueray is great for movies. For what i have seen not that great for gaming.

Wirless adadotor is a rip. but you can get one for around 50ish if you look in the right places.

XBL. lord i am tried of this excuse. you can find it on amazon all the time for 40 or even 30.

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#150 joel_c17
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haha i never seen the lems so angry about something haha you would think the TC slept with their mums or something. when i bought my xbox i wanted wifi but i costed 150 AU! I nearly fell over when i found out. a complete rip off - and yes wifi is great, not everyone can have a wired connection. what the TC is talking about is how much microsoft really is ripping of their fans compared to sony especially when sony offer free wifi, online, blueray and ability to install ur own hard drive. In my opinion the ps3 blows the 360 out of the water console wise - however the 360 does have a great bunch of games.