so whats better now?....299ps3 vs 299pc?

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#101 Apssei
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[QUOTE="codename-R"]

here you go consolites:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147074 $24.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148211 $24.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116072 $63.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827131061 $18.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121320 $59.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131369R $35.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182074 $34.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148397 $39.99

O.S: Windows 7 rc free until next year or linux/ubuntu+wine etc

and you can find a generic mouse,kb and speaker combo for less than $20

Total: $303.92 not counting rebates...

pc wins again ;)

whatisazerg

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Ah I can buy them all on my CC.... Hooray... that means they are FREE!

Also, when you buy a console you already have a TV.... 99.9% of people have a TV, before ever buying a console. Do those people also have a Monitor before they ever buy a PC?

Guy walks into a PC shop to buy his first PC... does he need to buy a monitor? Most likely YES!

Same guy walks into a store to buy a console... does he need to buy a TV? Almost certainly NO!

But even monitor/TV aside, you can't build a good PC for $300, unless you are stealing parts/software... and/or taking parts/software from a pre-existing system.

You can connect your tv to your pc obviously, plus who in this day and age doesn't have a pc? everyone has a monitor or a pc hooked to a tv

Also what is the problem with windows 7 being free until next year?

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#102 Gamerz1569
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PC is SUPPOSED to be more expensive than console gaming, thats why consoles exist in the first place, they provide cheap entertainment. Sure I can't build a gaming pc with 300$ I need at least 200$ more but thats just the way it is, 299$ ps3 is obviously better than a 299$ pc theres no denying that but thats the thing about consoles they're cheap, pc gaming isn't as cheap its its disadvantage. But comparing a PS3 to a good gaming rig (500$ at least) blows the PS3 out of the water.

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#103 Syferonik
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Well i am sure you could build a Walmart style PC for 299$ that would run 2000 or older games lol so i chose Ps3 of course.as

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#104 AzatiS
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299 ps3 i think. but lets see if you guys can build up a 299 pc that could play games such as RAGE and perform better than the ps3 in multimedia etcetera.austral0pitecus
What lame question is this?!! lol.... Should i ask one same lame one?!! That the answer is obvious?!! Ok.. So whats better ? A PC game at 29.99Euros or the same game for 69.99 Euros for PS3?!! And how many games youll buy till the end of this gen at 69.99?! How many $$ youll save ?! Do you got any idea? Well here is your Pc. Cheers
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#105 dc337
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Good question.

I play on both pc and 360, and I say ps3.

1. Blu-ray player.

2. Most upcoming pc games are multiplat anyways.

3. Local coop.

I would only say pc if you are really into rts or mmorpgs.

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#106 Vadamee
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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"] hdmi = dvi, bluetooth dongle $5 optical out built into mob. if you must have wifi a whole $7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320022R

No HDMI =/= DVI... HDMI = high fidelity sound + video. DVI = Video.
ps3 needs a 500gb + hdd if you are going to count the br drive. imprezawrx500
Uhm what? 500GB for what?
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#107 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="OPuniverse"]ummm at that price tag? i rather get a ps3 instead.austral0pitecus
sure thing. therefore Ps3 scapes away from competing directly with PC! thats good

that would mean the 360 avoides direct competition with the PC :|
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#108 Vadamee
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[QUOTE="austral0pitecus"]299 ps3 i think. but lets see if you guys can build up a 299 pc that could play games such as RAGE and perform better than the ps3 in multimedia etcetera.AzatiS
What lame question is this?!! lol.... Should i ask one same lame one?!! That the answer is obvious?!! Ok.. So whats better ? A PC game at 29.99Euros or the same game for 69.99 Euros for PS3?!! And how many games youll buy till the end of this gen at 69.99?! How many $$ youll save ?! Do you got any idea? Well here is your Pc. Cheers

You obviously didn't see my earlier posts. Whats better? $480/year for new retail PC games(Assuming you buy 1/month) - Or $240/year for a subscription to Gamefly w/having the selection of any game you want, that you can keep for as long as you want. I've had 10 games out in one month - Some of you may be able to get more in a month, depending on how fast shipping is and how fast you BEAT the games.
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#109 PSGamerforlife
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I would rather save my money than buy a $299USD PC, especially when comparing it to a PS3.

My type of PC would range from $1000 - 1600 AUD.

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#110 adamosmaki
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Find me a 600euros ( a great gaming pc at that price) PS3 that i can surf the net, download stuff, encode videos, store my photos, edit my videos, use word and exel, use C++ for my college programming lessons, rip my audio cd's to mp3's, connect my smartphone, watch pron , record tv, use google earth, burn cd's and DVD's and the list goes on and on and on and on. Instead of a 300 pc why dont we show you a 700-800 euros pc a pc 300euros nore expensive than your standart 400-500euros dell or HP pc

Let alone the 20euros price tag difference pc games have over console games.

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#111 anshul89
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So cheapness is a good thing now ? :D

Here's a better question : Show me a console that's as powerful as my 4850 crossfire gaming rig, at any price :)

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#112 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="austral0pitecus"]299 ps3 i think. but lets see if you guys can build up a 299 pc that could play games such as RAGE and perform better than the ps3 in multimedia etcetera.Vadamee
What lame question is this?!! lol.... Should i ask one same lame one?!! That the answer is obvious?!! Ok.. So whats better ? A PC game at 29.99Euros or the same game for 69.99 Euros for PS3?!! And how many games youll buy till the end of this gen at 69.99?! How many $$ youll save ?! Do you got any idea? Well here is your Pc. Cheers

You obviously didn't see my earlier posts. Whats better? $480/year for new retail PC games(Assuming you buy 1/month) - Or $240/year for a subscription to Gamefly w/having the selection of any game you want, that you can keep for as long as you want. I've had 10 games out in one month - Some of you may be able to get more in a month, depending on how fast shipping is and how fast you BEAT the games.

Let me indroduce you to gametap. $10 a month for a selection of over 1000 new and old games ( including arcade ones). So whats better now $240/year or $120 a year
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="Vadamee"][QUOTE="AzatiS"] What lame question is this?!! lol.... Should i ask one same lame one?!! That the answer is obvious?!! Ok.. So whats better ? A PC game at 29.99Euros or the same game for 69.99 Euros for PS3?!! And how many games youll buy till the end of this gen at 69.99?! How many $$ youll save ?! Do you got any idea? Well here is your Pc. Cheers

You obviously didn't see my earlier posts. Whats better? $480/year for new retail PC games(Assuming you buy 1/month) - Or $240/year for a subscription to Gamefly w/having the selection of any game you want, that you can keep for as long as you want. I've had 10 games out in one month - Some of you may be able to get more in a month, depending on how fast shipping is and how fast you BEAT the games.

Let me indroduce you to gametap. $10 a month for a selection of over 1000 new and old games ( including arcade ones). So whats better now $240/year or $120 a year

Wow some crappy online gaming download service w/a cherry picked list of new and old PC games, whereas with Gamefly, every upcoming game is guaranteed to be available. "Users must have a broadband connection, and cannot play GameTap games while disconnected from the Internet." /fail
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#114 whatisazerg
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[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

[QUOTE="codename-R"]

here you go consolites:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147074 $24.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148211 $24.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116072 $63.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827131061 $18.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121320 $59.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131369R $35.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182074 $34.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148397 $39.99

O.S: Windows 7 rc free until next year or linux/ubuntu+wine etc

and you can find a generic mouse,kb and speaker combo for less than $20

Total: $303.92 not counting rebates...

pc wins again ;)

Apssei

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Ah I can buy them all on my CC.... Hooray... that means they are FREE!

Also, when you buy a console you already have a TV.... 99.9% of people have a TV, before ever buying a console. Do those people also have a Monitor before they ever buy a PC?

Guy walks into a PC shop to buy his first PC... does he need to buy a monitor? Most likely YES!

Same guy walks into a store to buy a console... does he need to buy a TV? Almost certainly NO!

But even monitor/TV aside, you can't build a good PC for $300, unless you are stealing parts/software... and/or taking parts/software from a pre-existing system.

You can connect your tv to your pc obviously, plus who in this day and age doesn't have a pc? everyone has a monitor or a pc hooked to a tv

Also what is the problem with windows 7 being free until next year?

Because its not free... you just don't have to pay right now.... hence my Credit Card comment.... I can buy a console on my Credit Card, and not pay for 6 mo. til next year.... does that mean "ITS FREE"?

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#115 dc337
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Find me a 600euros ( a great gaming pc at that price) PS3 that i can surf the net, download stuff, encode videos, store my photos, edit my videos, use word and exel, use C++ for my college programming lessons, rip my audio cd's to mp3's, connect my smartphone, watch pron , record tv, use google earth, burn cd's and DVD's and the list goes on and on and on and on. adamosmaki

Everyone has a basic pc that can do those things. People here are not posting with their controllers.

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#116 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]

Find me a 600euros ( a great gaming pc at that price) PS3 that i can surf the net, download stuff, encode videos, store my photos, edit my videos, use word and exel, use C++ for my college programming lessons, rip my audio cd's to mp3's, connect my smartphone, watch pron , record tv, use google earth, burn cd's and DVD's and the list goes on and on and on and on. dc337

Everyone has a basic pc that can do those things. People here are not posting with their controllers.

exactly everyone has a basic 400-500 euros pc and unless your pc is older than 2005 we not upgrade for 100-200 euros and get something more powerfull than the PS3 and get new games cheaper
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#117 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="Vadamee"] You obviously didn't see my earlier posts. Whats better? $480/year for new retail PC games(Assuming you buy 1/month) - Or $240/year for a subscription to Gamefly w/having the selection of any game you want, that you can keep for as long as you want. I've had 10 games out in one month - Some of you may be able to get more in a month, depending on how fast shipping is and how fast you BEAT the games.Vadamee
Let me indroduce you to gametap. $10 a month for a selection of over 1000 new and old games ( including arcade ones). So whats better now $240/year or $120 a year

Wow some crappy online gaming download service w/a cherry picked list of new and old PC games, whereas with Gamefly, every upcoming game is guaranteed to be available. "Users must have a broadband connection, and cannot play GameTap games while disconnected from the Internet." /fail

Gametap you can use it no matter if you live in US or if you live in katmantu. From what i know gamefly is available only in US and certainly is not available in my country so gamefly is a fail for me and probably 3/4 of the gaming world. Also gametap you can play all 1041 games in a month for $10 can you do that in gamefly? "Users must have a broadband connection and cannot browse the internet while disconnected from internet" so internet is fail ( see what i did there)

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#118 jg4xchamp
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So cheapness is a good thing now ? :D

Here's a better question : Show me a console that's as powerful as my 4850 crossfire gaming rig, at any price :)

anshul89

or a console that uses as many different interfaces, or has such superior online support, free DLC, MODS, i mean we can sugarcoat it all we want But the PCs advantages totally make up for any initial price tag. Especially considering how much cheaper the games are, and the awesome deals you can get on Steam

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#119 dc337
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exactly everyone has a basic 400-500 euros pc and unless your pc is older than 2005 we not upgrade for 100-200 euros and get something more powerfull than the PS3 and get new games cheaperdc337


Because a lot of people have notebooks or desktops that have igpus.

But even for someone with a dual-core desktop that has a pci-express slot, I would still recomend the ps3. PC exclusives have become too centered around rts and mmorpgs.

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#120 Darth_DuMas
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here you go consolites:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147074 $24.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148211 $24.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116072 $63.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827131061 $18.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121320 $59.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131369R $35.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182074 $34.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148397 $39.99

O.S: Windows 7 rc free until next year or linux/ubuntu+wine etc

and you can find a generic mouse,kb and speaker combo for less than $20

Total: $303.92 not counting rebates...

pc wins again ;)

codename-R

I can't find the CPU on that list (the Rams coming up twice though, intentional?), does it come with the motherboard or something?

Also do any extra fans and what not come with the cases? Or are they just not needed?

Sorry I don't know much about building a computer.

Also is the KB/Mouse included or separate from the final price, can't tell by your meaning (though I think it is :)).

No offense but I think its a little bit of a cop out to make out the OS is free.

Nice List though.

EDIT: Sorry, I found the CPU, the links not the same as the URL. :) Nice list

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#121 dc337
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No offense but I think its a little bit of a cop out to make out the OS is free.Darth_DuMas
I agree, you have to pay for it at some point.

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thats like saying " right ive got a vauxhal corsa 1.3l new for £3000,, now show me a ferrai you can get for that price; yeah i thought so ferrai sucks..."

PCs are better, you can get the ps3 which is argued more powerfull (at the £299.99) but then your still only getting a ps3, the one that performs worst at the majority of mulitplats to the 360, the one with a poor online community, the one that boasted home would be the be all and end all.

Just because its cheaper no way does it mean its better

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#123 o0squishy0o
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[QUOTE="Darth_DuMas"] No offense but I think its a little bit of a cop out to make out the OS is free.dc337

I agree, you have to pay for it at some point.

idk about the slim but you have to buy HDMI cables... thats not cutting corners is it ;)
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I'd love to see postedGAMEPLAY vids for games such as Crysis, GTAIV, RE5, Stalker and eventually upcoming titles Dirt2, Diablo3,MW2, Mafia 2, Rage,Starcraft 2etc etc running on an $299 gaming PC built TODAY...

I am not demanding I just want that said $299 PC runs the above games atMediumsettings (all effects on) & gives me a standard 30 - 60fps..

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thats like saying " right ive got a vauxhal corsa 1.3l new for £3000,, now show me a ferrai you can get for that price; yeah i thought so ferrai sucks..."

PCs are better, you can get the ps3 which is argued more powerfull (at the £299.99) but then your still only getting a ps3, the one that performs worst at the majority of mulitplats to the 360, the one with a poor online community, the one that boasted home would be the be all and end all.

Just because its cheaper no way does it mean its better

o0squishy0o

so you basically showed how stupid some PC fanboys are when they jump in 'console' graphics related threads posting pictures of CRYSIS at full settings/ all effects on and sometimes with mods to show PC is superior in terms of visuals.. Because we all know that a PC running crysis at max settings and at reasonable frame rate doesnt cost $199 (xbox arcade) or else $299 (PS3) but MUCH MUCH more...

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I'd love to see postedGAMEPLAY vids for games such as Crysis, GTAIV, RE5, Stalker and eventually upcoming titles Dirt2, Diablo3,MW2, Mafia 2, Rage,Starcraft 2etc etc running on an $299 gaming PC built TODAY...

I am not demanding I just want that said $299 PC runs the above games atMediumsettings (all effects on) & gives me a standard 30 - 60fps..

Malta_1980
doubt it will happen but ok show me a ps3 that plays games at 2560x1600 at over 60fps. show me a ps3 that has much better looking multiplats, show me a ps3 that has good rts's and a FPS that isnt ugly or be put in the wash with a load of brown socks..
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[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]

thats like saying " right ive got a vauxhal corsa 1.3l new for £3000,, now show me a ferrai you can get for that price; yeah i thought so ferrai sucks..."

PCs are better, you can get the ps3 which is argued more powerfull (at the £299.99) but then your still only getting a ps3, the one that performs worst at the majority of mulitplats to the 360, the one with a poor online community, the one that boasted home would be the be all and end all.

Just because its cheaper no way does it mean its better

Malta_1980

so you basically showed how stupid some PC fanboys are when they jump in 'console' graphics related threads posting pictures of CRYSIS at full settings/ all effects on and sometimes with mods to show PC is superior in terms of visuals.. Because we all know that a PC running crysis at max settings and at reasonable frame rate doesnt cost $199 (xbox arcade) or else $299 (PS3) but MUCH MUCH more...

yes it costs more.. but your getting the better thing is that so hard to understand? lol
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#128 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

that would be extremely hard to do. However....this is theoretical...unless you don't actualy intend to play any games on PS3 or PC. Because considering that PS3 games retail for about 25-30 dollars more than PC ones here in Europe, the "cheapness" of PS3 seems more like a clever con designed to lure you into overpaying each time you buy a game, ultimately making you pay a lot more than PC costed

Vadamee

Console gamers don't have to buy games. Gamefly is $20/month...

Gamefly is US only, Gametap is even cheaper and if you're going to use gamefly then I could just as well buy used computer parts.

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#129 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

I'd love to see postedGAMEPLAY vids for games such as Crysis, GTAIV, RE5, Stalker and eventually upcoming titles Dirt2, Diablo3,MW2, Mafia 2, Rage,Starcraft 2etc etc running on an $299 gaming PC built TODAY...

I am not demanding I just want that said $299 PC runs the above games atMediumsettings (all effects on) & gives me a standard 30 - 60fps..

o0squishy0o

doubt it will happen but ok show me a ps3 that plays games at 2560x1600 at over 60fps. show me a ps3 that has much better looking multiplats, show me a ps3 that has good rts's and a FPS that isnt ugly or be put in the wash with a load of brown socks..

You like PC gamers dont get it.. we know consoles cant offer same visual quality as a PC, however its you that need to understand PC gaming is MORE EXPENSIVE..

Pc fanboys always try to show that PC gaming is cheap yet when posting pictures for games to prove ownage they utilise the best shots of the best game in terms of visuals (Crysis) running on not a $200, 300, 400, 500, 600 PC but a gaming rig which costs MORE.. and the funny thing that most of the PC fanboys probably dont even play Crysis at those high settings cause their PC cannot handle them :)

So while i agree with youthat PC > Consoles in terms of visuals, PC fanboys need to accept that PC gaming is much more expensive than consoles..

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#130 AdrianWerner
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my point is that PS3299> PC299 overall.austral0pitecus
And $200 PC > $200 PS3 overall

Since you won't be able to find new PS3 for that price, it by default looses to $200 PC.

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#131 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]

thats like saying " right ive got a vauxhal corsa 1.3l new for £3000,, now show me a ferrai you can get for that price; yeah i thought so ferrai sucks..."

PCs are better, you can get the ps3 which is argued more powerfull (at the £299.99) but then your still only getting a ps3, the one that performs worst at the majority of mulitplats to the 360, the one with a poor online community, the one that boasted home would be the be all and end all.

Just because its cheaper no way does it mean its better

o0squishy0o

so you basically showed how stupid some PC fanboys are when they jump in 'console' graphics related threads posting pictures of CRYSIS at full settings/ all effects on and sometimes with mods to show PC is superior in terms of visuals.. Because we all know that a PC running crysis at max settings and at reasonable frame rate doesnt cost $199 (xbox arcade) or else $299 (PS3) but MUCH MUCH more...

yes it costs more.. but your getting the better thing is that so hard to understand? lol

thats an opinion, cause for me PC doesnt have games such as GEOW2, infamous,Fable2,Uncharted, MGSIV, Halo3 or upcoming titles such as GT5, Forza3, Uncharted2, Last guardian, Heavy Rain, GOW3 etc etc

So having better hardware is not the same as getting the BETTER THING, we get gaming systems for games and since games are a matter of personal taste then for me PC is not the DEFENITIVE gaming system due to most of titles i like/want are not available on PC..

So i dont question the fact PC offers better hardware but I question everyone who states it offers the best gaming experience cause that depends on the games library or personal taste in gamesand PS3/360 for me are better in that area..

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#132 o0squishy0o
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[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

I'd love to see postedGAMEPLAY vids for games such as Crysis, GTAIV, RE5, Stalker and eventually upcoming titles Dirt2, Diablo3,MW2, Mafia 2, Rage,Starcraft 2etc etc running on an $299 gaming PC built TODAY...

I am not demanding I just want that said $299 PC runs the above games atMediumsettings (all effects on) & gives me a standard 30 - 60fps..

Malta_1980

doubt it will happen but ok show me a ps3 that plays games at 2560x1600 at over 60fps. show me a ps3 that has much better looking multiplats, show me a ps3 that has good rts's and a FPS that isnt ugly or be put in the wash with a load of brown socks..

You like PC gamers dont get it.. we know consoles cant offer same visual quality as a PC, however its you that need to understand PC gaming is MORE EXPENSIVE..

Pc fanboys always try to show that PC gaming is cheap yet when posting pictures for games to prove ownage they utilise the best shots of the best game in terms of visuals (Crysis) running on not a $200, 300, 400, 500, 600 PC but a gaming rig which costs MORE.. and the funny thing that most of the PC fanboys probably dont even play Crysis at those high settings cause their PC cannot handle them :)

So while i agree with youthat PC > Consoles in terms of visuals, PC fanboys need to accept that PC gaming is much more expensive than consoles..

1. i have already said atleast 2 or 3 times I KNOW ITS MORE EXPENSIVE.. sheshhh 2. You may have a vaild point that alot of them can not run crysis at max graphics, but then again your assuming that crysis is only the good looking pc game? Half life 2 with it running at super high res and hdr looks just as good as the newer consoles games and thats from 2005 i think. The PC has suppior visuals and scale, the ps3 boasts Killzone2 yet its quite a mud fest and very small. Some PC gamers will say it costs less if you know what yoru doing but then almost every family has a pc and for the most part all it would take is to upgrade the GRFX card and your sorted :)
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#133 AdrianWerner
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PC fanboys need to accept that PC gaming is much more expensive than consoles..

Malta_1980

except it's not. It CAN be more expensive, but it depends on various things, like how many games you buy, what settings you play on etc. It can just as well be cheaper than consoles

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#134 Malta_1980
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1. i have already said atleast 2 or 3 times I KNOW ITS MORE EXPENSIVE.. sheshhh 2. You may have a vaild point that alot of them can not run crysis at max graphics, but then again your assuming that crysis is only the good looking pc game? Half life 2 with it running at super high res and hdr looks just as good as the newer consoles games and thats from 2005 i think. The PC has suppior visuals and scale, the ps3 boasts Killzone2 yet its quite a mud fest and very small. Some PC gamers will say it costs less if you know what yoru doing but then almost every family has a pc and for the most part all it would take is to upgrade the GRFX card and your sorted :)o0squishy0o

In order not to brag too much on this point..

1) I am in no way saying Consoles > PC, i just prefare consoles to PC for gaming due to personal taste..

2) I know PC are superior in terms of hardware, it would be stupid saying otherwise

3) the topic was PS3 at $299 > PC $299which is true cause you can goin a shop with just $299 and buy a PS3 which will let you play all the games already out + all games coming out in the next 2 yrs at their full potential.. But youcannotgo in a shop/ or onlinewith$299 andbuild a gaming PC which lets you play games already out (since 2007) at descent settings or else upcoming titles for the next couple of years cause it wont be strong enough to handle such games at Medium/High settings and giving steady 30 - 60 frame-rate..

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#135 o0squishy0o
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[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

so you basically showed how stupid some PC fanboys are when they jump in 'console' graphics related threads posting pictures of CRYSIS at full settings/ all effects on and sometimes with mods to show PC is superior in terms of visuals.. Because we all know that a PC running crysis at max settings and at reasonable frame rate doesnt cost $199 (xbox arcade) or else $299 (PS3) but MUCH MUCH more...

Malta_1980

yes it costs more.. but your getting the better thing is that so hard to understand? lol

thats an opinion, cause for me PC doesnt have games such as GEOW2, infamous,Fable2,Uncharted, MGSIV, Halo3 or upcoming titles such as GT5, Forza3, Uncharted2, Last guardian, Heavy Rain, GOW3 etc etc

So having better hardware is not the same as getting the BETTER THING, we get gaming systems for games and since games are a matter of personal taste then for me PC is not the DEFENITIVE gaming system due to most of titles i like/want are not available on PC..

So i dont question the fact PC offers better hardware but I question everyone who states it offers the best gaming experience cause that depends on the games library or personal taste in gamesand PS3/360 for me are better in that area..

Geow2 = Geow1 really its not that different asside from the last time i played the online was terrible. You get infamous pc can get Prototype which tbh to me looks just the same LMAO. Uncharted? looks alot like tomb raider ;) MGS4... the MGSo was awesome, but it just reminded me of a 3rd person COD :) halo3 isnt that great and i cba to go on because you do have a point PC gamers doooooo get less of the good stuff. but PC gamers get crysis/warhead, CnC4, supcom2, diablo3, starcraft2, dirt2(dx11 ;) )lol, and well just al the multiplats really :). Spose its bit of a stalemate then really because to you, you dont get the titles you want for the PC, but for me i get the titles plus the better graphics, MK and better online experince for certain(not all) games.
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#136 StudySession
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Even if you get a ps3 for 299 you are still going to need a computer for other non gaming things so it would still be better value to spend 800 bucks on a nice computer that could play games and do other things you need as well.

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#137 o0squishy0o
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[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"] 1. i have already said atleast 2 or 3 times I KNOW ITS MORE EXPENSIVE.. sheshhh 2. You may have a vaild point that alot of them can not run crysis at max graphics, but then again your assuming that crysis is only the good looking pc game? Half life 2 with it running at super high res and hdr looks just as good as the newer consoles games and thats from 2005 i think. The PC has suppior visuals and scale, the ps3 boasts Killzone2 yet its quite a mud fest and very small. Some PC gamers will say it costs less if you know what yoru doing but then almost every family has a pc and for the most part all it would take is to upgrade the GRFX card and your sorted :)Malta_1980

In order not to brag too much on this point..

1) I am in no way saying Consoles > PC, i just prefare consoles to PC for gaming due to personal taste..

2) I know PC are superior in terms of hardware, it would be stupid saying otherwise

3) the topic was PS3 at $299 > PC $299which is true cause you can goin a shop with just $299 and buy a PS3 which will let you play all the games already out + all games coming out in the next 2 yrs at their full potential.. But youcannotgo in a shop/ or onlinewith$299 andbuild a gaming PC which lets you play games already out (since 2007) at descent settings or else upcoming titles for the next couple of years cause it wont be strong enough to handle such games at Medium/High settings and giving steady 30 - 60 frame-rate..

just on the last point lets say your parents (if your young or whatever) have got a family PC and its quite good ermm maybe a Intel Quad, with 4gbs ram but has a crappy grfx card, you can go out for lets say £200 or less and get a graphics that will last for the next 2 years quite nicely :)

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#138 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"] PC fanboys need to accept that PC gaming is much more expensive than consoles..

AdrianWerner

except it's not. It CAN be more expensive, but it depends on various things, like how many games you buy, what settings you play on etc. It can just as well be cheaper than consoles

Well i find it stupid buying a PC for gaming and be able to play current games in Low/Medium settings and probably not even that for upcoming titles being released next year or the following..

Its like having a $30000 budget and buy a Porsche body for $25000 and with the remaining $5000 buy a Honda V-tec engine cause you couldnt afford the real deal.. Its a Porsche from the outside but its not a Porsche in terms of performance..

So in order to claim ownage on console people, i buy an $299 PC which plays games like sh** while others play PC games on much more expensive PC's at max settings as they were meant to..

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#139 anshuk20002
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Even if you get a ps3 for 299 you are still going to need a computer for other non gaming things so it would still be better value to spend 800 bucks on a nice computer that could play games and do other things you need as well.

StudySession

but dont u know........the ps3 can do EVERYTHING

didnt u see the latest ad??????

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#140 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"] 1. i have already said atleast 2 or 3 times I KNOW ITS MORE EXPENSIVE.. sheshhh 2. You may have a vaild point that alot of them can not run crysis at max graphics, but then again your assuming that crysis is only the good looking pc game? Half life 2 with it running at super high res and hdr looks just as good as the newer consoles games and thats from 2005 i think. The PC has suppior visuals and scale, the ps3 boasts Killzone2 yet its quite a mud fest and very small. Some PC gamers will say it costs less if you know what yoru doing but then almost every family has a pc and for the most part all it would take is to upgrade the GRFX card and your sorted :)Malta_1980

In order not to brag too much on this point..

1) I am in no way saying Consoles > PC, i just prefare consoles to PC for gaming due to personal taste..

2) I know PC are superior in terms of hardware, it would be stupid saying otherwise

3) the topic was PS3 at $299 > PC $299which is true cause you can goin a shop with just $299 and buy a PS3 which will let you play all the games already out + all games coming out in the next 2 yrs at their full potential.. But youcannotgo in a shop/ or onlinewith$299 andbuild a gaming PC which lets you play games already out (since 2007) at descent settings or else upcoming titles for the next couple of years cause it wont be strong enough to handle such games at Medium/High settings and giving steady 30 - 60 frame-rate..

no but you can go into shop buy a $60-70 vga ( something in the lines of 9600gt or ati 4670) upgrade your pc and play all these games at 1080p at 30fps medium/high settings. and for the 20th time in this thread pc games $40 console games $60 ( and in europe is more than 20euros difference which is bigger ). I'm saying this in case you have an old pc that cant be upgraded then you build yourself a nice $500 pc and the $200 orice difference will be coverid in 1-2 years by cheaper games on pc
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#141 dc337
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[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="Darth_DuMas"] No offense but I think its a little bit of a cop out to make out the OS is free.o0squishy0o

I agree, you have to pay for it at some point.

idk about the slim but you have to buy HDMI cables... thats not cutting corners is it ;)

$5 at newegg?

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#142 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

In order not to brag too much on this point..

1) I am in no way saying Consoles > PC, i just prefare consoles to PC for gaming due to personal taste..

2) I know PC are superior in terms of hardware, it would be stupid saying otherwise

3) the topic was PS3 at $299 > PC $299which is true cause you can goin a shop with just $299 and buy a PS3 which will let you play all the games already out + all games coming out in the next 2 yrs at their full potential.. But youcannotgo in a shop/ or onlinewith$299 andbuild a gaming PC which lets you play games already out (since 2007) at descent settings or else upcoming titles for the next couple of years cause it wont be strong enough to handle such games at Medium/High settings and giving steady 30 - 60 frame-rate..

o0squishy0o

just on the last point lets say your parents (if your young or whatever) have got a family PC and its quite good ermm maybe a Intel Quad, with 4gbs ram but has a crappy grfx card, you can go out for lets say £200 or less and get a graphics that will last for the next 2 years quite nicely :)

thats a possibility but my point was a brand new PS3 @ $299 against building a new PC for $299, and that is NOT possibile....

I have plans to build a good gaming PC eventually but in Europe is not that cheap and the one I have in mind will cost me round Eur900.00 (excluding monitor & operating system cause i already got them)

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#143 o0squishy0o
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[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"][QUOTE="dc337"] I agree, you have to pay for it at some point.dc337

idk about the slim but you have to buy HDMI cables... thats not cutting corners is it ;)

$5 at newegg?

exactly... $5 and they couldnt have already put in the box... here have a hamsandwhich but youve got to go buy the ham :)
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#144 o0squishy0o
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[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

In order not to brag too much on this point..

1) I am in no way saying Consoles > PC, i just prefare consoles to PC for gaming due to personal taste..

2) I know PC are superior in terms of hardware, it would be stupid saying otherwise

3) the topic was PS3 at $299 > PC $299which is true cause you can goin a shop with just $299 and buy a PS3 which will let you play all the games already out + all games coming out in the next 2 yrs at their full potential.. But youcannotgo in a shop/ or onlinewith$299 andbuild a gaming PC which lets you play games already out (since 2007) at descent settings or else upcoming titles for the next couple of years cause it wont be strong enough to handle such games at Medium/High settings and giving steady 30 - 60 frame-rate..

Malta_1980

just on the last point lets say your parents (if your young or whatever) have got a family PC and its quite good ermm maybe a Intel Quad, with 4gbs ram but has a crappy grfx card, you can go out for lets say £200 or less and get a graphics that will last for the next 2 years quite nicely :)

thats a possibility but my point was a brand new PS3 @ $299 against building a new PC for $299, and that is NOT possibile....

I have plans to build a good gaming PC eventually but in Europe is not that cheap and the one I have in mind will cost me round Eur900.00 (eclusiding monitor & operating system cause i already got them)

i think the main point of my post was because people are boasting about the cheap price like its teh awesomes.. it is i guess to you lot but sony i doubt will make money of the console because its worth more than what they are selling it at. PLus its a ps3 ;) LOL
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[QUOTE="hysam20241"]

There

forgot to add the ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820159015 just an extra $24.

total is $303 before the mail-in rebates... Obviously its not a top of the line pc but it can run crysis on high with good frame rates. I would take this over the ps3 any day.

Obviously with $200 more I can make a pc ten times this one.

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yes? thats a pretty **** PC. 303$ but you still need RAM and OS. add 150 $ =453 =PS3299>PC

Windows 7 RC1 Built 7077 is free for a year. go figure, you just got owned
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#146 mirgamer
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PC is SUPPOSED to be more expensive than console gaming, thats why consoles exist in the first place, they provide cheap entertainment. Sure I can't build a gaming pc with 300$ I need at least 200$ more but thats just the way it is, 299$ ps3 is obviously better than a 299$ pc theres no denying that but thats the thing about consoles they're cheap, pc gaming isn't as cheap its its disadvantage. But comparing a PS3 to a good gaming rig (500$ at least) blows the PS3 out of the water.

Gamerz1569

This is why this whole debate is entirely redundant.

Console gaming if you're on a tight budget.

PC if you want to be where the state of the art gaming tech is.

However, the lines have blurred somewhat since PC hardware costs have reduced significantly.

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#147 Malta_1980
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i think the main point of my post was because people are boasting about the cheap price like its teh awesomes.. it is i guess to you lot but sony i doubt will make money of the console because its worth more than what they are selling it at. PLus its a ps3 ;) LOL o0squishy0o

well many wont agree, but in all honesty PS3 at $299 is one hell of a good deal... i got mine back in 2007 for Eur720.00 :(

But $299 for a great gaming console, which also offers a good Online Service, has Wifi & is also a Blu-ray Player is great value for money.

now i can understand people not liking PS3 or Sony but surely one cant say $299 isnt a great price for the 'whole package'..

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#148 Metalscarz
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[QUOTE="Vadamee"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

that would be extremely hard to do. However....this is theoretical...unless you don't actualy intend to play any games on PS3 or PC. Because considering that PS3 games retail for about 25-30 dollars more than PC ones here in Europe, the "cheapness" of PS3 seems more like a clever con designed to lure you into overpaying each time you buy a game, ultimately making you pay a lot more than PC costed

OPuniverse

Console gamers don't have to buy games. Gamefly is $20/month...

not too fond with gamefly, i like owning a hard copy rather than renting a game. and 20 dollars per month is just brutal imo.

Gamefly is amazing.

For $20 a month I have two games for as long as I want, and the value never ever goes down. I get sick of the game, I get a new one flat out.

I would miss so many games if it wasn't for Gamefly. I don't have time to play the same games over and over again. I beat a game once, maybe twice and thats it. Then it sits there collecting dust because something new came out.

I only purchase great multiplayer games, or really cheap single player games, or games from developers I want to support outright. Usually the ones who treat the PC good.

Gamefly is an amazing service for the gamer who wants to try everything, with a limited budget and time.

Before Gamefly it wasn't uncommon for me to rush out and buy 2-3 games a month at $60 a pop. Then after I beat them they would sit there, or be sold off for a fraction of what I payed. That seems a lot more brutal then the $20 a month I spend now. Plus they let you buy games from them if you want. Usually I can keep a newly released game for $35 or less if you like it. Factor in the 20 a month and you payed about the same as at Gamestop. Except you got to make sure you liked the game first. For as long as it took.

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#149 AdrianWerner
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Well i find it stupid buying a PC for gaming and be able to play current games in Low/Medium settings and probably not even that for upcoming titles being released next year or the following..

Malta_1980

the only stupid thing here is the "I can only play it this way, thus everybody else has to do it too" attitude you're showing. PCgaming is extremely varied and can't be squashed into one little nice bucket like consoles do. Just because some girl spends hours playing on her netbook doesn't make her stupid. Get over it.

and it's not only about settings. Consoles on a whole are cheaper on first buy, but then everything costs more, from games, to XBL's fees, ending with accesories (which you have to rebuy each gen most of the time). Consoles are cheap at first, but unlike PC they bleed you out regularly later on.

Ask yourself: if consoles are so cheap, then how come they're popular only in the few richest countries, while PCgaming dominates everywhere else?

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#150 o0squishy0o
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[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"] i think the main point of my post was because people are boasting about the cheap price like its teh awesomes.. it is i guess to you lot but sony i doubt will make money of the console because its worth more than what they are selling it at. PLus its a ps3 ;) LOL Malta_1980

well many wont agree, but in all honesty PS3 at $299 is one hell of a good deal... i got mine back in 2007 for Eur720.00 :(

But $299 for a great gaming console, which also offers a good Online Service, has Wifi & is also a Blu-ray Player is great value for money.

now i can understand people not liking PS3 or Sony but surely one cant say $299 isnt a great price for the 'whole package'..

yes its a good price for the ps3.. but its just not a great console thats all. Ive sold mine twice and my xbox once LOL. I guess if it had a better controller and the mulitplats were the same and good games came right out at the start then maybe id look down on it more favouribly.. but until then ill take my terrible spelling and sit on the top of everyone with my pc :) LMAO :)