So when is Bungie going to fix Halo 3 Melees?

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#1 Koolsen
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One of the biggest complaints of the game and Bungie won't even comment on it. I love Halo 3 but the melee system is completely broken and needs to be fixed.

(I am refering to how in a melee battle whoever has more health wins, instead of who strikes first)

Yay non-Ratchet and Clank thread.

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#2 Snowboarder99
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Yeah, I hope they fix it
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#3 BraveSirRobin21
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I agree completely

This needs to be done pronto so that the those of us who play the close and dirty style can have fun again

also yay to the non R&C post

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#4 Xsatyr01
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Hopefully soon, it makes no sense. If two players stick each other with grenades then they both die, why not melee.
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#5 Lemmywinks_360
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I hope they fix it. Its not about reaction time any more but who ever has the most shields at the time which is bs.
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#6 Bansheesdie
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Nothing official has been announced, but they are defiantly looking into it and I would bet that it will be adressed whenever H3 is updated again.
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#7 deactivated-62f57dce0e802
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It isnt broken. Its who ever strikes first hits firs. If your strike at the same time whoever has more health wins.

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#8 -Tretiak
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Agreed, hopefully they fix it soon. It can be very frustrating. I also want my Commando shoulders. :(
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#9 Slurms_M
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It isnt broken. Its who ever strikes first hits firs. If your strike at the same time whoever has more health wins.

Bl00dsmoke

You can strike second and win, but only by small, but still noticible, margins.

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#10 Deactivation
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Learn to deal more damage before hand, you shouldn't win if you're low on heath, that's just absurd.
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#11 Koolsen
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It isnt broken. Its who ever strikes first hits firs. If your strike at the same time whoever has more health wins.

Bl00dsmoke

Roll video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU0q2g_PV5A

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#12 Xsatyr01
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It isnt broken. Its who ever strikes first hits firs. If your strike at the same time whoever has more health wins.

Bl00dsmoke
Your wrong. You can strike first and still lose bc you have less health.
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#13 Slurms_M
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Hopefully soon, it makes no sense. If two players stick each other with grenades then they both die, why not melee.Xsatyr01

Both people dieing is a dumb idea too. How about whoever strikes first wins?

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#14 deactivated-62f57dce0e802
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OH Snap sorry ive never had that problem really. Then again i say screw melle and i just back up shooting BR. But yea that should really be fixed.

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#15 Entourage_G
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Hope they do..
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#16 Slurms_M
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OH Snap sorry ive never had that problem really. Then again i say screw melle and i just back up shooting BR. But yea that should really be fixed.

Bl00dsmoke

yeah. its not that big of a deal but its pretty annoying sometimes.

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#17 thirstychainsaw
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It was a dumb idea, I mean, the system sometimes completely ignores who hit who first.
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#18 ParkCarsHere
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I hope this is fixed soon... it's really annoying going up to a guy, knowing you hit the button first, but still ending up with the 5 second countdown. People say "lern2play nub!" but in reality, it's just the game glitch... or is it? Maybe Bungie wants it this way :P.
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#19 mistervengeance
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One of the biggest complaints of the game and Bungie won't even comment on it. I love Halo 3 but the melee system is completely broken and needs to be fixed.

(I am refering to how in a melee battle whoever has more health wins, instead of who strikes first)

Yay non-Ratchet and Clank thread.

Koolsen

yeah it's annoying if you ask me.

i would be ranked #1 on the worldwide leaderboards if the game was as you say

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#20 mistervengeance
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Learn to deal more damage before hand, you shouldn't win if you're low on heath, that's just absurd.Deactivation

you shoot a guy up, the guy is shooting you up. when we go to wack each other, i strike first, but he wins because 1 less bullet hit him than me.

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#21 Xsatyr01
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[QUOTE="Xsatyr01"]Hopefully soon, it makes no sense. If two players stick each other with grenades then they both die, why not melee.Slurms_M

Both people dieing is a dumb idea too. How about whoever strikes first wins?

I was not trying to go off and fully explain different scenarios as if one striked first but I agree with you. I was just giving an example were they contradict themselves although some might say when your shield is down so is your melee strength, I hate it either way.

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#22 Slurms_M
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Learn to deal more damage before hand, you shouldn't win if you're low on heath, that's just absurd.Deactivation

So if you have a slower response time in a shooting game you should win?

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#23 ParkCarsHere
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[QUOTE="Bl00dsmoke"]

It isnt broken. Its who ever strikes first hits firs. If your strike at the same time whoever has more health wins.

Koolsen

Roll video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU0q2g_PV5A

Wow, awesome video. I knew melee was a problem, but I never knew exactly why I kept losing out when I know I was hitting first. That video really proves that something needs to be done. I hope to God that Bungie did not purposefully implement this melee system...

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#24 Deactivation
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[QUOTE="Deactivation"]Learn to deal more damage before hand, you shouldn't win if you're low on heath, that's just absurd.mistervengeance

you shoot a guy up, the guy is shooting you up. when we go to wack each other, i strike first, but he wins because 1 less bullet hit him than me.



Learn to aim.
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#25 Slurms_M
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[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

[QUOTE="Deactivation"]Learn to deal more damage before hand, you shouldn't win if you're low on heath, that's just absurd.Deactivation

you shoot a guy up, the guy is shooting you up. when we go to wack each other, i strike first, but he wins because 1 less bullet hit him than me.



Learn to aim.

Oh lawd not every bullet is 100% accurate.

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#26 Xsatyr01
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[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

[QUOTE="Deactivation"]Learn to deal more damage before hand, you shouldn't win if you're low on heath, that's just absurd.Deactivation

you shoot a guy up, the guy is shooting you up. when we go to wack each other, i strike first, but he wins because 1 less bullet hit him than me.



Learn to aim.

And if they shot first from the back? Pretty weak argument to reward someone with a lower response time.

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#27 Pajamasalad
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It is probably this way so that lag is less of a factor.
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#28 E M I N 3 M
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http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/10/22/its-coming-bungie-is-getting-the-halo-3-ban-hammer-ready

Im not really a Halo buff, but i thought you guys might like to see this, since it seems you're talking about something similar to what Bungie is going to be addressing soon. I just hope none of you guys are apart of this or can kiss your live acct. goodbye! :|

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#29 -RPGamer-
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You shouldn't exactly be rewarded for taking on more damage just to get off a melee by a second or so.

I like the tweak personally.

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#30 E M I N 3 M
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Im *bumpin* this, cause i think everyone who plays HALO 3 should read the link i just posted. **HEADS UP GUYS*
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#31 mattyomo99
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they cant, no standard hard-drive.
because if they send an update then you divide the userbase into people without harddrives and ppl with them

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#32 Slurms_M
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they cant, no standard hard-drive.
because if they send an update then you divide the userbase into people without harddrives and ppl with them

mattyomo99

Can't you get updates without a hard drive?

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#33 Dante2710
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they cant, no standard hard-drive.
because if they send an update then you divide the userbase into people without harddrives and ppl with them

mattyomo99
:? u really have a 360? cuz u should know by now that u cant play online, unless u install the update
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#34 Big_T-Mac
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yay.

probly never, because they hate me. in h2 they screwed me by making everybody a great sniper. now that thats notthe case again, now i get dominated up close far more often thani should(aka h:ce and h2).

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#35 Big_T-Mac
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this question officially decides if ur good at shooters or not, cuz all the n00bs want it to stay cuz they are finally getting kills online, while every decent player just wants the game to play fairly.

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#36 mattyomo99
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[QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

they cant, no standard hard-drive.
because if they send an update then you divide the userbase into people without harddrives and ppl with them

Dante2710

:? u really have a 360? cuz u should know by now that u cant play online, unless u install the update

i thought you could play online with a core-model?

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#37 Vyse_The_Daring
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I have heard my melee connect with my opponent right before he kills me with a melee. :|

This really needs to be fixed.

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#38 Dante2710
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

they cant, no standard hard-drive.
because if they send an update then you divide the userbase into people without harddrives and ppl with them

mattyomo99

:? u really have a 360? cuz u should know by now that u cant play online, unless u install the update

i thought you could play online with a core-model?

i might be wrong, but im pretty sure u cant....since it`ll ask u to update everytime u log into xbl....so no updates = automatically sign off if i remember correctly :?
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#39 Xsatyr01
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You shouldn't exactly be rewarded for taking on more damage just to get off a melee by a second or so.

I like the tweak personally.

-RPGamer-

Ok but its not fair when you just got out of a battle with someone else and your life was already lower to begin with. Now some noob can melee a second later after you but you die instead when he should have. The noob pushing the b button a second late should not affect your health since he should be dead.

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[QUOTE="mattyomo99"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

they cant, no standard hard-drive.
because if they send an update then you divide the userbase into people without harddrives and ppl with them

Dante2710

:? u really have a 360? cuz u should know by now that u cant play online, unless u install the update

i thought you could play online with a core-model?

i might be wrong, but im pretty sure u cant....since it`ll ask u to update everytime u log into xbl....so no updates = automatically sign off if i remember correctly :?

You can. The updates don't save to the hard drive. Some games require a hard drive online though, but that has nothing to do with updates.

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#41 eddy_of_york
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The next patch?

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#42 mattyomo99
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[QUOTE="mattyomo99"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

they cant, no standard hard-drive.
because if they send an update then you divide the userbase into people without harddrives and ppl with them

Dante2710

:? u really have a 360? cuz u should know by now that u cant play online, unless u install the update

i thought you could play online with a core-model?

i might be wrong, but im pretty sure u cant....since it`ll ask u to update everytime u log into xbl....so no updates = automatically sign off if i remember correctly :?

i really dont know? haha
can abody with a core 360 help us out?

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#43 Synthetic_NinJI
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The melee system in this game is crap, as much I love Halo.

I rather using the melee in 2 this game, its too noob friendly.

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#44 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="Bl00dsmoke"]

It isnt broken. Its who ever strikes first hits firs. If your strike at the same time whoever has more health wins.

Slurms_M

You can strike second and win, but only by small, but still noticible, margins.

Um 99% of the time in my experience whoever strikes first wins. The other times could be just some lag problem. Brobably the guy who struck first lagged so it looked like he was late at the time but then the game synched up it turned out he had hit B first. The saved films shown as proofarent going to correct that. I have seen similar situations many times in other games.

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#45 Titus_WoWplayer
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One of the biggest complaints of the game and Bungie won't even comment on it. I love Halo 3 but the melee system is completely broken and needs to be fixed.

(I am refering to how in a melee battle whoever has more health wins, instead of who strikes first)

Yay non-Ratchet and Clank thread.

Koolsen

its because melee does so much damage and when u have no shields or lil' to no shields, the damage done will kill you, so who ever hits first wins, try doing just a melee round about with no guns, it'll take 2 hits to kill eachother and it will be the ones who hit first wins. I love the melee system, u have to think before you get to close now. an dswords...well they are the best, super balanced, one who hots first with the most hp wins there too. so now if u fight 2 at once u'r dead, but u can still get one guy, and if they both suck, u can get both of them because they're reactions sucks.

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#46 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

they cant, no standard hard-drive.
because if they send an update then you divide the userbase into people without harddrives and ppl with them

mattyomo99

:? u really have a 360? cuz u should know by now that u cant play online, unless u install the update

i thought you could play online with a core-model?

i might be wrong, but im pretty sure u cant....since it`ll ask u to update everytime u log into xbl....so no updates = automatically sign off if i remember correctly :?

i really dont know? haha
can abody with a core 360 help us out?

I see no reason why the update couldnt be stored on a memory card.

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#47 FrozenLiquid
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How can they fix what is not broken?

It plays how they intended it to play.

Thus, they won't fix it.

By the way, they've already commented on it.

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#48 Mordred19
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How can they fix what is not broken?

It plays how they intended it to play.

Thus, they won't fix it.

By the way, they've already commented on it.

FrozenLiquid

Don't you think the guy who's quicker on the melee button should be the one to get the kill?

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#49 joe_g_patton
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You know what is at the top of my list? NERF WARLOCKS in WoW!!!!!!!! I could care less about melee in Halo 3. :P Or, maybe I'll just level a Warlock up to 70 & bask in the PVP ownage.

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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

they cant, no standard hard-drive.
because if they send an update then you divide the userbase into people without harddrives and ppl with them

mattyomo99

:? u really have a 360? cuz u should know by now that u cant play online, unless u install the update

i thought you could play online with a core-model?

i might be wrong, but im pretty sure u cant....since it`ll ask u to update everytime u log into xbl....so no updates = automatically sign off if i remember correctly :?

i really dont know? haha
can abody with a core 360 help us out?

i thought game update were stored in the sytem memory...not on a hdd or memory card...thats why u can only have 5 updates for each game on your system at any given time...well 5 games with there updates i mean. cause they have i think 1 gig set aside for memory like that....its not ram or anything just a flash drive or i guess u could say small hdd inbeded in the system,