Oh good, Cranler is here. Where is my popcorn?
Not really, because most of the PS4 games are on all platforms so what is the incentive to get current gen versions of it. The fact that most games are multiplats or ports of last gen games makes it seem boring.
The 360 games were best on the 360 because it was the only next gen platform at the time. So it was either a multiplat, vastly better than the PS2 version, a PC port which was kind of a newer deal back then or a 360 only game. So there was incentive, it felt like it was worth owning the current gen platform at the time.
Most of the games so far on the current gen are also available on last gen platforms. So we're getting games from last gen and also games released on both gens which don't even look vastly better. So what's the point. I can get all these games on on my PC (performing very well on an affordable mid range card), or on my 360. That's why this gen feels so much worse this gen, they aren't offering much I didn't have access to before.
A consolite will eventually get a next gen console and most likely before it drops below $400. So why wait? They will end up spending the same amount of money in the end.
Why buy inferior versions of console mulitplats when you could get the next gen versions instead.
Gun was vastly better than the last gen version? What PS 2 games were vastly better on 360?
"So why wait" Seriously? You would have to have no value of money to think like that. Why buy something with little current worth. The last gen versions aren't even hugely inferior, certainly not to warrant buying a brand new console. And you don't know they'll end up spending the same money. Early adopters end up paying more.
Right now it's just buying a console for the sake of it.
If someone waits until there's games of worth to a platform, they can get the first year crap pretty cheap anyway later on.
Vastly better graphically I meant.
When do you think the PS 4 price will drop? I think it's going to be long after last gen consoles are forgotten by most of the devs.
What difference does it make whether you spend the $400 now or in a year?
The downside in waiting is inferior graphics. And believe me, a you tube comparison video cannot fully convey the difference.
What is the upside in waiting? That's what I want to know. What do you gain by holding onto that $400.
Lmao at this thread.... PC is the place to be....it's where all the new start up developers that have something to prove are making smash hits.... Haven't you console noobs figured that out yet?
What smash hits do you speak of?
Loads, maybe build a PC and see for yourself ;)
Where did I say that I wanted a drawn picture? And if you have average intelligence then why didn't you simply say what you meant?
What else would I mean when I say to another user "delete my post"?
This is why Gabe Newell is a billionaire:
How can I say no when I can get Euro Truck Simulator 2 for $9.99? I don't know much about Europe--even less about its trucks--and I have absolutely zero interest in simulating anything related to the two. But I'll be damned if that game doesn't look fantastic in my Steam library, where it'll spend an eternity grayed out and uninstalled. Really, when it comes down to it, I just can't resist what my brain perceives to be a good deal.
http://www.gamesradar.com/confessions-steam-summer-sale-addict/
1. Please don't ask me what YOU mean, that's your job to know.
2. Well then something appears to be wrong with you, there's no reason to buy a game that you have no interest in.
Sorry you don't understand something so simple. Guess I overestimated you.
Thats not me, it's a quote from the article I linked.
A consolite will eventually get a next gen console and most likely before it drops below $400. So why wait? They will end up spending the same amount of money in the end.
Why buy inferior versions of console mulitplats when you could get the next gen versions instead.
Gun was vastly better than the last gen version? What PS 2 games were vastly better on 360?
"So why wait" Seriously? You would have to have no value of money to think like that. Why buy something with little current worth. The last gen versions aren't even hugely inferior, certainly not to warrant buying a brand new console. And you don't know they'll end up spending the same money. Early adopters end up paying more.
Right now it's just buying a console for the sake of it.
If someone waits until there's games of worth to a platform, they can get the first year crap pretty cheap anyway later on.
Vastly better graphically I meant.
When do you think the PS 4 price will drop? I think it's going to be long after last gen consoles are forgotten by most of the devs.
What difference does it make whether you spend the $400 now or in a year?
The downside in waiting is inferior graphics. And believe me, a you tube comparison video cannot fully convey the difference.
What is the upside in waiting? That's what I want to know. What do you gain by holding onto that $400.
Uhm, you get to keep $400. I don't see a problem here.
Lmao at this thread.... PC is the place to be....it's where all the new start up developers that have something to prove are making smash hits.... Haven't you console noobs figured that out yet?
What smash hits do you speak of?
Loads, maybe build a PC and see for yourself ;)
I don't know of any besides Minecraft. Sure theres plenty of games that make a profit but most seem to be far from being a smash hit.
A game that breaks sales records like Destiny or GTA V what would be considered a smash hit.
A consolite will eventually get a next gen console and most likely before it drops below $400. So why wait? They will end up spending the same amount of money in the end.
Why buy inferior versions of console mulitplats when you could get the next gen versions instead.
Gun was vastly better than the last gen version? What PS 2 games were vastly better on 360?
"So why wait" Seriously? You would have to have no value of money to think like that. Why buy something with little current worth. The last gen versions aren't even hugely inferior, certainly not to warrant buying a brand new console. And you don't know they'll end up spending the same money. Early adopters end up paying more.
Right now it's just buying a console for the sake of it.
If someone waits until there's games of worth to a platform, they can get the first year crap pretty cheap anyway later on.
Vastly better graphically I meant.
When do you think the PS 4 price will drop? I think it's going to be long after last gen consoles are forgotten by most of the devs.
What difference does it make whether you spend the $400 now or in a year?
The downside in waiting is inferior graphics. And believe me, a you tube comparison video cannot fully convey the difference.
What is the upside in waiting? That's what I want to know. What do you gain by holding onto that $400.
Uhm, you get to keep $400. I don't see a problem here.
But they will eventually spend that $400. They will get more out of their $400 purchase by buying it now than 2 years into the consoles cycle.
Lmao at this thread.... PC is the place to be....it's where all the new start up developers that have something to prove are making smash hits.... Haven't you console noobs figured that out yet?
What smash hits do you speak of?
Loads, maybe build a PC and see for yourself ;)
I don't know of any besides Minecraft. Sure theres plenty of games that make a profit but most seem to be far from being a smash hit.
A game that breaks sales records like Destiny or GTA V what would be considered a smash hit.
No they are smash hits FINANCIALLY.
I prefer games that are smash hits for being a GOOD GAME.
Lmao at this thread.... PC is the place to be....it's where all the new start up developers that have something to prove are making smash hits.... Haven't you console noobs figured that out yet?
What smash hits do you speak of?
Loads, maybe build a PC and see for yourself ;)
I don't know of any besides Minecraft. Sure theres plenty of games that make a profit but most seem to be far from being a smash hit.
A game that breaks sales records like Destiny or GTA V what would be considered a smash hit.
No they are smash hits FINANCIALLY.
I prefer games that are smash hits for being a GOOD GAME.
Don't see anything in the definition about ratings
smash hit
synonyms: | breaking, shattering, crash"the smash of glass" |
The upcoming AAA games on PS4 currently are Order 1886 (seems like another flop) , Uncharted 4 and Bloodborne . On Xbox One , you have Quantum Break , Halo 5 , MCC Collection , Gears 4 . While on PC ; Star Citizen , Squadron 42 , Elite Dangerous , Unreal Tournament , Total War , Syberia 3 , Legacy of the Void , Landmark , Everquest Next , Homeworld Remastered , Ancient Space etc .
EDIT : What is the name of game , showcased in screenshot number 4 , 6 and 10 .?
That game is survarium, Vosotok recently announced they're close to releasing a beta of the free Open world faction survival portion and a set of 5 player co op campaigns.
Other is White Heavens a UE4 horror game made by the people that made Anna. Last one is Black Desert online.
Thanks . Black Desert sure looks like a true next gen MMO . Even its character creation system is better than anything we've ever seen before .
Black Desert does indeed look good my friend.
A consolite will eventually get a next gen console and most likely before it drops below $400. So why wait? They will end up spending the same amount of money in the end.
Why buy inferior versions of console mulitplats when you could get the next gen versions instead.
Gun was vastly better than the last gen version? What PS 2 games were vastly better on 360?
"So why wait" Seriously? You would have to have no value of money to think like that. Why buy something with little current worth. The last gen versions aren't even hugely inferior, certainly not to warrant buying a brand new console. And you don't know they'll end up spending the same money. Early adopters end up paying more.
Right now it's just buying a console for the sake of it.
If someone waits until there's games of worth to a platform, they can get the first year crap pretty cheap anyway later on.
Vastly better graphically I meant.
When do you think the PS 4 price will drop? I think it's going to be long after last gen consoles are forgotten by most of the devs.
What difference does it make whether you spend the $400 now or in a year?
The downside in waiting is inferior graphics. And believe me, a you tube comparison video cannot fully convey the difference.
What is the upside in waiting? That's what I want to know. What do you gain by holding onto that $400.
Uhm, you get to keep $400. I don't see a problem here.
But they will eventually spend that $400. They will get more out of their $400 purchase by buying it now than 2 years into the consoles cycle.
They get to spend that $400 on something useful in the meantime. Not all consoles, stay a their launch price, I said current gen, not PS4 exclusively. The X1 and Wii U both dropped in price.
Also you could save in subscription fees, getting those games at full price.
It's better to use the money for something I need now and buy the console when it's a system worth owning.
Why is that so difficult to get. Everyone was saying the same thing when the Wii U didn't have any games and now it does, I would consider spending money on it.
When do you think the PS 4 price will drop? I think it's going to be long after last gen consoles are forgotten by most of the devs.
What difference does it make whether you spend the $400 now or in a year?
The downside in waiting is inferior graphics. And believe me, a you tube comparison video cannot fully convey the difference.
What is the upside in waiting? That's what I want to know. What do you gain by holding onto that $400.
Uhm, you get to keep $400. I don't see a problem here.
But they will eventually spend that $400. They will get more out of their $400 purchase by buying it now than 2 years into the consoles cycle.
They get to spend that $400 on something useful in the meantime. Not all consoles, stay a their launch price, I said current gen, not PS4 exclusively. The X1 and Wii U both dropped in price.
Also you could save in subscription fees, getting those games at full price.
It's better to use the money for something I need now and buy the console when it's a system worth owning.
Why is that so difficult to get. Everyone was saying the same thing when the Wii U didn't have any games and now it does, I would consider spending money on it.
Well obviously I was speaking of those who have disposable income.
Wiiu didn't have superior versions of multiplats.
I shudder to think of what games like DA Inquisition and Shadow of Mordor will be like on the old consoles.
1. Please don't ask me what YOU mean, that's your job to know.
2. Well then something appears to be wrong with you, there's no reason to buy a game that you have no interest in.
Sorry you don't understand something so simple. Guess I overestimated you.
Thats not me, it's a quote from the article I linked.
Again, if it is so simple then why didn't you write it in your initial post? Seems like you've overestimated yourself there too.
Well then something is wrong with the person who wrote the article, which pretty much makes it null and void.
Sorry you had so much trouble understanding something so simple.
That guy in the article is doing exactly what Steam wants them to do. Anyone who runs a business uses sales in an effort to get people to spend more.
Blame Activision and Bungie? Not consoles. Destiny has proven that Bungie is a mediocre game developer. Consoles are perfectly capable of churning out quality exclusives and multiplats.
Thats a stretch. every other game form bungie has been critically acclaimed. They just made 1 bad game, every dev does it. I wouldn't call them mediocre from 1 bad game
Blame Activision and Bungie? Not consoles. Destiny has proven that Bungie is a mediocre game developer. Consoles are perfectly capable of churning out quality exclusives and multiplats.
Thats a stretch. every other game form bungie has been critically acclaimed. They just made 1 bad game, every dev does it. I wouldn't call them mediocre from 1 bad game
well and not really bad, just average
I figured anyone with average intelligence would understand what i meant.
A person of average intelligence would realize this is a scores thread, and that you are literally the only poster bringing up sales.
Console titles keep flopping, and are well behind PC in 8's and 9's this gen. Like the last 2 gens. You have yet to refute the OP. Please stay on the threads topic of scores.
Blame Activision and Bungie? Not consoles. Destiny has proven that Bungie is a mediocre game developer. Consoles are perfectly capable of churning out quality exclusives and multiplats.
Thats a stretch. every other game form bungie has been critically acclaimed. They just made 1 bad game, every dev does it. I wouldn't call them mediocre from 1 bad game
well and not really bad, just average
True, bad by bungie standards, but average if you take away their name and budget.
I figured anyone with average intelligence would understand what i meant.
A person of average intelligence would realize this is a scores thread, and that you are literally the only poster bringing up sales.
Console titles keep flopping, and are well behind PC in 8's and 9's this gen. Like the last 2 gens. You have yet to refute the OP. Please stay on the threads topic of scores.
At least console games get hyped. PC games can't flop when no one hypes them.
All those niche title that barely anyone plays will become more and more common on console.
Here's one of the pc's highest rated games of the year. Out of 711 million pc gamers this game peaked at 48 players.
PC has had its moments can't beat the Doom, Quake, Unreal Tournament and Counter Strike days....WOW put the ugly stigma on PC of just a bunch of nerdy basement dwellers who have no life, and now all PC is, is free to play games mmo's and Facebook games with the hopes of getting good console games like Gta, halo, Titanfall etc.
PC is like the free games in the apple and android market place every once and a while there is a cool/neat game that comes out but that's because there is just some much crap thrown at it that something eventually has to stick.
I figured anyone with average intelligence would understand what i meant.
A person of average intelligence would realize this is a scores thread, and that you are literally the only poster bringing up sales.
Console titles keep flopping, and are well behind PC in 8's and 9's this gen. Like the last 2 gens. You have yet to refute the OP. Please stay on the threads topic of scores.
TROLL TROLL TROLL
Nothing you just stated has anything to do with scores....
PC has had its moments can't beat the Doom, Quake, Unreal Tournament and Counter Strike days....WOW put the ugly stigma on PC of just a bunch of nerdy basement dwellers who have no life, and now all PC is, is free to play games mmo's and Facebook games with the hopes of getting good console games like Gta, halo, Titanfall etc.
PC is like the free games in the apple and android market place every once and a while there is a cool/neat game that comes out but that's because there is just some much crap thrown at it that something eventually has to stick.
I'm going to assume you were trolling because of the opinions, hyperbole, and garbage stereotypes....but:
1. Whats wrong with f2p and mmo? When some of these games are rated 8-9's (higher than average console), highly competitive with higher skill-caps/ranges than ANYTHING on consoles, and the most played games on the planet: Who are you to say they don't count?
2. You forgot moba, (space) sims, twitch shooter, RTS, adventure, (w)(c)RPG. Nice try though. One of the few goty contenders so far for this year is Divinity.
3. Yes, every once and a while there is a neat/cool game: To the point where no single consoles even remotely can catch up to PC's 8.0+,9.0+ scores. (At both Metacritic AND Gamespot)
4. Most video games are multiplat. Most of these games end up on PC. They are almost always better on PC. Don't ever discuss multiplats when doing an anti-PC post, it's a fucking death sentence.
Lol....I get flagged for trolling and OP admits to trolling and nothing.
What a great forum.
Shutup Cranler.
I figured anyone with average intelligence would understand what i meant.
A person of average intelligence would realize this is a scores thread, and that you are literally the only poster bringing up sales.
Console titles keep flopping, and are well behind PC in 8's and 9's this gen. Like the last 2 gens. You have yet to refute the OP. Please stay on the threads topic of scores.
At least console games get hyped. PC games can't flop when no one hypes them.
All those niche title that barely anyone plays will become more and more common on console.
Here's one of the pc's highest rated games of the year. Out of 711 million pc gamers this game peaked at 48 players.
It is a very bad standard to look at hype as a Measurement of anything, all that Means that it needs a huge ad campaign to be noticed. So Basicly most of the hype around comes from the makers and sellers of the game telling you to be excited. The very difinition of mindless consumer behavior.
Seller says "jump" and you jump.
Ironically many of the better games on all platforms were rarely hyped on release, a good deal of them were dismissed or simply went outside of public view. But hey the way you state it, it is better to have a game like Lair, that was hyped to high heavens and was a piss poor game, then a game like Deus Ex, or X-Com Ufo defence, you know generally reguarded as some of the best games ever? (One might never have been released, and first recieved acclaim upon release, the other stood in the shadow of Daikatana for most of its Development).
Hype Means nothing, it can not even measure a games worth. A good Hype campaign can make a game sell, but it can not make a good game, go figure.
So 8/10 is not triple A anymore?
8/10 has NEVERbeen AAA....
9+ is AAA
8+ is AA
7+ is A
That's how it has always been around here..
lol I legitimately busted out laughing when i saw that kid's post.
He doesnt understand what the two meanings of AAA means.
AAA just used to mean a high budget game with a good studio with high production values, and with advertisement and such. But when talking about scores AAA means any game (could be a low budget unknown studio made game) that scores 9.0 - 9.9
AA = 8.0 - 8.9
A = 7.0 - 7.9
PC has had its moments can't beat the Doom, Quake, Unreal Tournament and Counter Strike days....WOW put the ugly stigma on PC of just a bunch of nerdy basement dwellers who have no life, and now all PC is, is free to play games mmo's and Facebook games with the hopes of getting good console games like Gta, halo, Titanfall etc.
PC is like the free games in the apple and android market place every once and a while there is a cool/neat game that comes out but that's because there is just some much crap thrown at it that something eventually has to stick.
So , we are pretending that games like FEAR , Company of Heroes , STALKER trilogy , Crysis , Witcher , World in Conflict , Starcraft 2 , Shadow Warrior , Shogun 2 , Dawn of War 2 etc never happened .? Lol , OK .
Because 'gamers' are ignoring the best console to ever be released and its game for irrational reasons.
PS4 is truly the most powerful indie machine ever made.
Bottom line people are purposely depriving themselves of the awesomeness that is XB1. And its not even close to being the true version of itself yet, beta tested in the future ;)
1. Please don't ask me what YOU mean, that's your job to know.
2. Well then something appears to be wrong with you, there's no reason to buy a game that you have no interest in.
Sorry you don't understand something so simple. Guess I overestimated you.
Thats not me, it's a quote from the article I linked.
Again, if it is so simple then why didn't you write it in your initial post? Seems like you've overestimated yourself there too.
Well then something is wrong with the person who wrote the article, which pretty much makes it null and void.
Sorry you had so much trouble understanding something so simple.
That guy in the article is doing exactly what Steam wants them to do. Anyone who runs a business uses sales in an effort to get people to spend more.
Again, if it is so simple then why didn't you write it in your initial post?
And that's only a problem for not so smart people.
I said "delete my post" why should I have to add "when your typing your post" that part should be a given. When else can a normal user delete someone else post? DERP!
@lundy86_4: yeah no shit so is Halo I was giving examples of how PC gamers want console games so much so they beg for them at times.
Halo was made for consoles, Titanfall was made with console in mind PC was just an after thought.
Like Ryse, and Dead Rising 3 on PC.
Reviewers have started to take notice that they are playing same sh*t over and over again, and those millions of dollars were just for marketing and not for the game itself . Not to mention , bigger budget doesn't make a better game .
Blame the consumer then. Apparently they buy those games over and over.
why all you hear is garbage on the radio, all you see is garbage on television, and all you keep seeing is the same horrible kind of movie storylines released over and over these passed 15+ years. it's all become about the hype, not the content.
@lundy86_4: yeah no shit so is Halo I was giving examples of how PC gamers want console games so much so they beg for them at times.
Halo was made for consoles, Titanfall was made with console in mind PC was just an after thought.
Like Ryse, and Dead Rising 3 on PC.
Ryse at 4k..dat afterthought!
Way better graphics, better performance, more options, mods, cheaper. Gotta love those afterthoughts. First (but worst) only on console.
@lundy86_4: yeah no shit so is Halo I was giving examples of how PC gamers want console games so much so they beg for them at times.
Halo was made for consoles, Titanfall was made with console in mind PC was just an after thought.
Like Ryse, and Dead Rising 3 on PC.
Again, if it is so simple then why didn't you write it in your initial post?
And that's only a problem for not so smart people.
I said "delete my post" why should I have to add "when your typing your post" that part should be a given. When else can a normal user delete someone else post? DERP!
I can't delete your post whatsoever, what you meant to say it "delete me out of the quote chain". Really, you don't know how to articulate yourself clearly, do you?
Why should I have to go into detail on something that any user should already understand? I guess I gave you more credit that you deserve.
Reviewers have started to take notice that they are playing same sh*t over and over again, and those millions of dollars were just for marketing and not for the game itself . Not to mention , bigger budget doesn't make a better game .
Blame the consumer then. Apparently they buy those games over and over.
why all you hear is garbage on the radio, all you see is garbage on television, and all you keep seeing is the same horrible kind of movie storylines released over and over these passed 15+ years. it's all become about the hype, not the content.
Still the consumers fault....
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