Socom Confrontation GS Review RIP (10/21/08 - 10/29/08) (UPDATED)

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#101 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="MarloStanfield"][QUOTE="ONLYDOD"][QUOTE="MarloStanfield"]

:lol: Does anyone know who this is? it's cracking me up

Blackbond

I don't know wrestling too well but I think his name is King Booka or something.

is he from WWF?

That would be the man currently formerly known as Booker T, currently known as Royal T (Royalty) and previously known as KING....BOUKAH!

Isn't he back to being Booker T in TNA?

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#102 W1NGMAN-
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Nope, it's still a flop. This game just isn't very good IMO..... that's all. :(BioShockOwnz

Fixed ;)

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#103 nervmeister
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If you guys want a re-review so badly, then start a petition.
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#104 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

So admitting the game is a flop, and not caring whether or not they change the review is now considered whinning? All I'm saying is that it would be nice of them to inform people that the review isn't accurate anymore that's all.

W1NGMAN-

You are whining look at your thread title :roll:

People just dont look at GS for reviews you know they hear from word of mouth and other gameing centerd sites. If they wana uniform opinion of the game then they need to go to metacritic or gamerankings.

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#105 W1NGMAN-
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It's not GSs fault that they didnt fix these issues before the game was released.Guybrush_3

Nope it's not at all, but it doesn't change the fact that their review is now inaccurate.

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#106 jethrovegas
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Nope, it's still a flop. This game just isn't very good IMO..... that's all. :(W1NGMAN-

Fixed ;)

Right, because he said 'IYO' before... :roll:

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#107 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

So admitting the game is a flop, and not caring whether or not they change the review is now considered whinning? All I'm saying is that it would be nice of them to inform people that the review isn't accurate anymore that's all.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

You are whining look at your thread title :roll:

People just dont look at GS for reviews you know they hear from word of mouth and other gameing centerd sites. If they wana uniform opinion of the game then they need to go to metacritic or gamerankings.

What's wrong with it, if it's not accurate I'll change it but as far as I can tell it is.

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#108 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]It's not GSs fault that they didnt fix these issues before the game was released.W1NGMAN-

Nope it's not at all, but it doesn't change the fact that their review is now inaccurate.

Inaccurate for what you get out of the box?
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#109 W1NGMAN-
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If you guys want a re-review so badly, then start a petition.nervmeister

I don't, I'm just saying as of today it's inaccurate that's all.

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#110 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]It's not GSs fault that they didnt fix these issues before the game was released.nervmeister

Nope it's not at all, but it doesn't change the fact that their review is now inaccurate.

Inaccurate for what you get out of the box?

You can't play Socom Confrontation without patching the game, it's an online only game so essentially everyone that purchases the game today will have a totally different experience than what the review experienced on the 21rst.

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#111 Blackbond
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Isn't he back to being Booker T in TNA?

Lionheart08

Yes but he is under the persona and gimmick of Royal T (Royalty)

Watch

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#112 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Isn't he back to being Booker T in TNA?

Blackbond

Yes but he is under the persona and gimmick of Royal T (Royalty)

Watch

Ha Ha clever :lol:

EDIT: why does he have that fake a** african or haitian accent:|

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#113 carljohnson3456
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Man I love the game, but it was tough waiting for that friggin patch.
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#114 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]It's not GSs fault that they didnt fix these issues before the game was released.W1NGMAN-

Nope it's not at all, but it doesn't change the fact that their review is now inaccurate.

Inaccurate for what you get out of the box?

You can't play Socom Confrontation without patching the game, it's an online only game so essentially everyone that purchases the game today will have a totally different experience than what the review experienced on the 21rst.

Actually, that's a good point. Kudos.
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#115 jeezers
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]It's not GSs fault that they didnt fix these issues before the game was released.W1NGMAN-

Nope it's not at all, but it doesn't change the fact that their review is now inaccurate.

Inaccurate for what you get out of the box?

You can't play Socom Confrontation without patching the game, it's an online only game so essentially everyone that purchases the game today will have a totally different experience than what the review experienced on the 21rst.

does this mean everytime World of warcraft is patched, it should be re-reveiwed??

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#116 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Isn't he back to being Booker T in TNA?

Blackbond

Yes but he is under the persona and gimmick of Royal T (Royalty)

Watch

Oh wow he's changed a lot over the years.

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#117 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Isn't he back to being Booker T in TNA?

Blackbond

Yes but he is under the persona and gimmick of Royal T (Royalty)

Watch

Yea iv been on tna for a while and that accent is so freaking anoying. I want to dropkick booker.

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#118 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Isn't he back to being Booker T in TNA?

finalfantasy94

Yes but he is under the persona and gimmick of Royal T (Royalty)

Watch

Yea iv been on tna for a while and that accent is so freaking anoying. I want to dropkick booker.

Loved how he pronounced "KING BOOKEAH!" :P
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#119 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Isn't he back to being Booker T in TNA?

W1NGMAN-

Yes but he is under the persona and gimmick of Royal T (Royalty)

Watch

Oh wow he's changed a lot over the years.

Yeah but whenever he gets mad or loses his cool he goes back to his old Booker T ways of wanting to be slappin sukkuz up and raising hell. But then he calmly gathers his composure and goes back to Royal T lol

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#120 SpruceCaboose
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Sorry, kicking me in the junk doesn't get any more pleasant if you bake me a cake a week later.

In other words, they should have never released an online game with broken online. Seems like a no-brainer. Fix it, then ship it. I hate this ship then patch stuff that is becoming accepted in the console world.

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#121 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"][QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]It's not GSs fault that they didnt fix these issues before the game was released.jeezers

Nope it's not at all, but it doesn't change the fact that their review is now inaccurate.

Inaccurate for what you get out of the box?

You can't play Socom Confrontation without patching the game, it's an online only game so essentially everyone that purchases the game today will have a totally different experience than what the review experienced on the 21rst.

does this mean everytime World of warcraft is patched, it should be re-reveiwed??

That's a good point too.
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#122 ONLYDOD
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Isn't he back to being Booker T in TNA?

Blackbond

Yes but he is under the persona and gimmick of Royal T (Royalty)

Watch

Oh wow he's changed a lot over the years.

Yeah but whenever he gets mad or loses his cool he goes back to his old Booker T ways of wanting to be slappin sukkuz up and raising hell. But then he calmly gathers his composure and goes back to Royal T lol

Now that the subject of wrestling is up in the air, what's going on with Mr Kennedy now? I remeber in 2006 I think it was, always looking forward to when he would come on with his whole MISTEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR KENNEDY! Intro, it was so epic.

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#123 W1NGMAN-
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I was just over at Giantbomb, and read this....

Jeff Gertsmann

"If I had written a review of SOCOM last week, for example, I would have given it one star. If our score went to zero, I'd try to give it that. Why? Because it wasn't even a game. It was a $40 title screen. Rather than write a review that doesn't do anyone any good, I wrote an article or two about the status of the servers, figuring that would hopefully keep people from running out and buying the game before it gets fixed."

It was never THAT bad :lol:, anyways I think he took the right approach in writing an article letting people know what was going on rather than posting up a review.

Also I think it'll score a 3 out of 5, based off of what he was saying on their podcast.

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#124 JimJackJose
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Instead of crying for a re-review of this game from some random videogame site, you should all be disgusted that a company sold you a game with such huge bugs in it.

Seriously, it's hard to believe the amount of sh*t you guys are willing to overlook all while trying to convince everyone else that it's ok for a company to publish unplayable garbage because one day they might fix it.

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#125 WilliamRLBaker
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I was just over at Giantbomb, and read this....

Jeff Gertsmann

"If I had written a review of SOCOM last week, for example, I would have given it one star. If our score went to zero, I'd try to give it that. Why? Because it wasn't even a game. It was a $40 title screen. Rather than write a review that doesn't do anyone any good, I wrote an article or two about the status of the servers, figuring that would hopefully keep people from running out and buying the game before it gets fixed."

It was never THAT bad :lol:, anyways I think he took the right approach in writing an article letting people know what was going on rather than posting up a review.

Also I think it'll score a 3 out of 5, based off of what he was saying on their podcast.

W1NGMAN-

but it was that bad and its been confirmed by nearly every site. The game was broken out of the box which should never happen they could have postponed release easily but didn't.

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#126 GreyFoXX4
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Well I've been playing the heck out of the background screen now for about a 1 1/2 weeks lol. So NO it wasn't quite as bad as he was saying or else I wouldn't be able to play it for the past week or 2 for about 4-6 hours at a time :)

But I do like that he didn't just put up some review knowing that it wouldn't be true to what the game actually has to offer.

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#127 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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I'm sure they will get around to re-reviewing again right after they do EVERY OTHER GAME THAT HAS BEEN PATCHED SINCE IT WAS REVIEWED! :roll: Honestly, why should SOCOM be different from every other game? Don't release a pile of crap and expect reviewers to wait.
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#128 CreepyBacon
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Instead of crying for a re-review of this game from some random videogame site, you should all be disgusted that a company sold you a game with such huge bugs in it.

Seriously, it's hard to believe the amount of sh*t you guys are willing to overlook all while trying to convince everyone else that it's ok for a company to publish unplayable garbage because one day they might fix it.

JimJackJose

What he said. I wouldn't buy it out of protest.

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#129 Nisim19
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the problem is was not only the bugs

if you read the all review you will se that the game overoll is anther averge shooter

this game deserv a 7 without the bugs

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#130 piano_pimp
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they really need to redo reviews for alot of these online only games, since patches and updates can completely change everything. Look at burnout: paradise and warhawk, they are significantly better now than when they were first released.
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#131 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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they really need to redo reviews for alot of these online only games, since patches and updates can completely change everything. Look at burnout: paradise and warhawk, they are significantly better now than when they were first released.piano_pimp
as are every game that gets patched. should sites re-review all games, or just the PS3 ones?
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#132 W1NGMAN-
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the problem is was not only the bugs

if you read the all review you will se that the game overoll is anther averge shooter

this game deserv a 7 without the bugs

Nisim19

I've read the review, and no way does it sound like an average shooter, I would personally give it an 8.

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#133 DJ_Lae
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You get one chance to make a first impression, and if you buy SOCOM and receive the virtual equivalent of a Cleveland steamer when you put it in the disc drive, followed up by a good teabagging, then it's not really enough when Sony pats you gently on the head a couple of days later and apologizes.
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#134 Oni_Ookami
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same stuff happend to COD2 when it came out. amazing game that had the missforutne of having an uplayable online mode at launch. patches fixed it and made it a very very fun game but the damage was done. GS never re-reviews games.
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#135 ParadiddleFill
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thats like a boxer who lost a fight asking for a rematch because he didnt get enough sleep the night before. Tip for the next Socom game DONT RELEASE UNLESS IS ACTUALLY PLAYABLE
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#136 Episode_Eve
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You get one chance to make a first impression, and if you buy SOCOM and receive the virtual equivalent of a Cleveland steamer when you put it in the disc drive, followed up by a good teabagging, then it's not really enough when Sony pats you gently on the head a couple of days later and apologizes.DJ_Lae

Actually it is considering Socom player/fans forgive and forget easily once patches are released (especially since this is an online only game). I'm not sure if the review should change but I think GS should have waited a week.

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#137 piano_pimp
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[QUOTE="piano_pimp"]they really need to redo reviews for alot of these online only games, since patches and updates can completely change everything. Look at burnout: paradise and warhawk, they are significantly better now than when they were first released.blue_hazy_basic
as are every game that gets patched. should sites re-review all games, or just the PS3 ones?

games for all platforms of course. they should at least add an update mentioning significant changes.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="piano_pimp"]they really need to redo reviews for alot of these online only games, since patches and updates can completely change everything. Look at burnout: paradise and warhawk, they are significantly better now than when they were first released.piano_pimp

as are every game that gets patched. should sites re-review all games, or just the PS3 ones?

games for all platforms of course. they should at least add an update mentioning significant changes.

going back how far? Its not the reviewer's responsiblity to make sure a game is worth playing when its released. No. Everyone on here moans about how slow GS are to review games and now they are saying they should have waited? Nonsense. Delay the release of the game if its not ready.
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#139 The_Game21x
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You get one chance to make a first impression, and if you buy SOCOM and receive the virtual equivalent of a Cleveland steamer when you put it in the disc drive, followed up by a good teabagging, then it's not really enough when Sony pats you gently on the head a couple of days later and apologizes.DJ_Lae

That's all you really needed to say. I completely agree.

SOCOM is just another in a long list of games (this generation alone, mind you) that has suffered from the all too common "release now, patch later" mentality many developers have adopted.

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#140 jonnyt61
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since when did they re-review a game because of a patch? oh yeah... never :?ogvampire

They didn't entirely re-review it, but they did take another look at Lair after the analog control patch.

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#141 metalpower08
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Why didn't they ship the game with this update rather than having to update it later?nintendoman562
I know, I'm with you, but it has been that way for every online game. Dev's are just seeing the money and are getting greedy. They should just put in the money and effort and release it when it is ready.
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#142 Bigboi500
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Well it looks like the overall opinions in this thread (with the exception of mostly cows) are that you don't re-review games for patches, updates etc. and I agree. It's up to the publishers and devs to make sure the game is ready and playable on day one.

Do cows actually believe they are better than everybody else? Like they have a sense of entitlement that others are not afforded?

Stop complaining about reviews already. Lemmings, sheep, and hermits dont' act this bad over reviews here.

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#143 xsubtownerx
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Unless GS re-reviews expect for people to still count it as a flop. :P

Lionheart08

I really doubt the patch would make it a AA game.

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#144 ULTIMATEZWARRIO
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Unless GS re-reviews expect for people to still count it as a flop. :P

xsubtownerx

I really doubt the patch would make it a AA game.

well, that depends, i'm sure if some reviewers were to review the game now, then it would be probably have been AA, but since most have already reviewd, you are right, it won't make it a AA game
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#145 Eltroz
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They should reconsidered reviews and scores when important patches are released.wado-karate
So what if the patch is 2 months later or 4 or 8 months later should they still? NO. The fact is developers get judged on games as they release it is not a reviewers job to keep updating the game. It is though the developers job to release a finished product.
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#146 WardCleaver02
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This topic: RIP
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#147 footfoe2
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Unless GS re-reviews expect for people to still count it as a flop. :P

Lionheart08

Count? is there some kind of score or something? is this a game?

No face it they fixed the problems so its much better now. This is an exclusive you lems won't get a chance to play, ownage

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#148 WardCleaver02
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Just to put this to rest, here is a quote for GS's Kevin V regarding reviews:

Our policy regarding reviews remains the same; that is, we will not change review scores based on updates made to games after their release. Reviews provide a snapshot of a game as it existed when the review was written, and we cannot consistently revisit every game based on patches, tweaks, and added content. Nor will we be giving add-on content a score in the traditional sense. Consider the information we cover here to be an adjunct to the original review.

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#149 rumtumtugger
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Why didn't they ship the game with this update rather than having to update it later?nintendoman562

Seriously, it only took them about a week.

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#150 LightReflection
Member since 2008 • 344 Posts

Every MMORPG should be terrible in terms of scores then.