Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be Sonic's comeback!

You do realise that the Sonic fanbase is the most divided with those Shadow fanboys loving guns and everything and some that think having other characters in is cool and that they are playable and then there's us intelligent ones who know Sonic should just be playable.

chocolate1325

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="sonictrainer"]

.......what?

sonictrainer

sonic games were good when his name was robotnik now that it is eggman they completely suck.mario on the other hand always had its quality so i dont think that comparison got his point across correctly

That's what Robotnik is called in Japan, where Sonic was made.

...i know that but in sonic 1 in NA for the genesis he was named robotnik correct?

[QUOTE="Pices"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] You play mario games, yeah.Sandvichman

So, I'm 4 to play Mario Games? I guess you're a kid to play Halo

Grow a sense of humor man, stop taking everything so seriously. Do you look like this guy when you are on systems wars or what?

xkcd is complete win, and the picture is totally appropriate.

[QUOTE="sonictrainer"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

sonic games were good when his name was robotnik now that it is eggman they completely suck.mario on the other hand always had its quality so i dont think that comparison got his point across correctly

That's what Robotnik is called in Japan, where Sonic was made.

...i know that but in sonic 1 in NA for the genesis he was named robotnik correct?

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="sonictrainer"]

That's what Robotnik is called in Japan, where Sonic was made.

sonicthemegaman

...i know that but in sonic 1 in NA for the genesis he was named robotnik correct?

oh well i got something else from that comparison at first but ok thats true

I think the fact that this is being released in episodes instead of a single game shows exactly how much confidence sega has in it

Sonics long gone IMHO, and I really doubt Segas abillity to bring it back to form even with this quasi 2-3d formula they have. Did the Sonic Rush games bring Sonic back to fame? No...will this? I doubt it, chances are it will be critically panned for being the same game we received umpteen years ago with 3d graphics.Jynxzor

I don't think it will be Sonics comeback but hopefully it will revive the series and take it back to its roots and if it works then brilliant they can build on from there. I hate the fact that people are moaning about the character design in the game. Sure his character design in Sonic 2006 sucked espically Dr Robotnik. I don't care what he looks like. I just want to go fast jump on badniks and get Chaos Emeralds and have fun.

Why does it have to be that Sonics eye color matters or Robotniks name and the way he runs. You have to remember Sonic didn't go zooming across the screen like he did in Sonic Rush in the early days.

@sonicthemegaman:

Sonic Unleashed did do many things right and it is kind of dissapointing that it doesn't get credit for that. I think the developers figured out a good way to make Sonic's speed translate well to 3D, it had nice graphics, good daytime level design, etc.

That being said, it cannot be overlooked that half of the game (actually, more than half of the game as the Werehog levels were much longer than the Sonic ones) sucked ass. And nobody is going to truly respect a game that sucked for the majority of its playtime.

The Werehog and terrible overworld sections truly puzzled me. If the game had been a bunch of fast Sonic levels with no clusmy, stupid hubworld, I think the game could have pulled very high scores.

OK, just took a quick peak at some of the leaked videos and it looks a little...how do I put this?...awkward. There's something about it that is just not "gelling" if you catch my drift. It will probably be good but I can easily see this falling short of greatness.

Interested to see how this turns out. Looks like it could be great. I really like how similar it is to the old-school Sonic games.

Honestly, the last Sonic game I truely loved was 3d blast. The Adventure games seemed pretty fun but I only played those a tiny bit.

http://www.tssznews.com/2010/04/02/leak-week-videos-of-sonic-4s-casino-street-published/

This proves that Sonic 4 really will be like the originals. This is pure Sonic people. Be happy. :)

sonicthemegaman

Agree with the OP. Sonic 4 will indeed be sonic's comeback. All the haters will be owned when this inevitably gets an AAA score and usurp mario from the charts. Mark my words. Super Sonic is back and better than ever!

I sometimes just wish the Sonic fanboys would stop dreaming and saying this will put Mario in his place. Mario put Sonic in his place when Sonic 2006 sucked and Super Mario Galaxy ruled. This won't beat New Super Mario Bros Wii in sales or in quality.

I sometimes just wish the Sonic fanboys would stop dreaming and saying this will put Mario in his place. Mario put Sonic in his place when Sonic 2006 sucked and Super Mario Galaxy ruled. This won't beat New Super Mario Bros Wii in sales or in quality.

chocolate1325

I'd say that Mario finally KOd Sonic when it was proven with Sonic Adventure (which was a great game in many ways; hasn't aged too well though) that Sonic couldn't do 3D anywhere near as well as Mario.

I sometimes just wish the Sonic fanboys would stop dreaming and saying this will put Mario in his place. Mario put Sonic in his place when Sonic 2006 sucked and Super Mario Galaxy ruled. This won't beat New Super Mario Bros Wii in sales or in quality.

chocolate1325

[QUOTE="chocolate1325"]

I sometimes just wish the Sonic fanboys would stop dreaming and saying this will put Mario in his place. Mario put Sonic in his place when Sonic 2006 sucked and Super Mario Galaxy ruled. This won't beat New Super Mario Bros Wii in sales or in quality.

Theguy56

It's definitely no crime to prefer 2D Sonics. They are comparable enough in quality. I think 2D Marios had better gameplay, but I always prefered the music and visuals in the 2D Sonic games.

I slightly perferred the 2D Marios but I won't lie Sonic in 2D is great and I hope he does end up having a good game.

[QUOTE="luigigreen"] So yea, once again...Theguy56

I would also add because gameplay isn't how it used to be - in Sonic 1-3 - fans are disappointed

http://www.tssznews.com/2010/04/02/leak-week-videos-of-sonic-4s-casino-street-published/

This proves that Sonic 4 really will be like the originals. This is pure Sonic people. Be happy. :)

I would also add because gameplay isn't how it used to be - in Sonic 1-3 - fans are disappointed

Nero_Paladin

.......what?

I'm gonna hold judgement until I play it but, I have a bad feeling that Sega may need to pull the plug on Sonic.sonicthemegaman

That wouldn't be a good idea.

[QUOTE="luigigreen"] So yea, once again...Theguy56

it doesn't need to follow the cycle to a T, it's just a general prediction that's stayed with the franchise since his 3d debut, and so far it hasn't been wrong.

Sonick54,

Definitely not going to judge the game based on that 1 leaked level considering I loved the others.

Also, no official video is out yet. Just some guy leaking beta footage and everyone jumping to conclusions.

it doesn't need to follow the cycle to a T, it's just a general prediction that's stayed with the franchise since his 3d debut, and so far it hasn't been wrong.

Sonick54

Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing, anyone?

[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

it doesn't need to follow the cycle to a T, it's just a general prediction that's stayed with the franchise since his 3d debut, and so far it hasn't been wrong.

sonictrainer

Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing, anyone?

This game has already failed. The game is called Sonic 4, yet if this was a game that got released just months after Sonic & Knuckles it would have been absolutely ripped apart by the fans. As a sequel to the original Megadrive series it's an absolute disgrace. Most of the levels are just rehashes. Splash Hill having a somewhat similar setting to Green Hill is nice, but when you've also got rehashes of Labrynth and Casino Night you've got a problem. That's especially bad considering there's only 4 zones in the game. Plus the bosses are all just rehashes of older bosses as well. Plus all the cool powerups introduced in Sonic 3 are gone. No new ones are there to replace them. Ah and of course Sonic is the only playable character. Why remove Tails and Knuckles? They were great fun to play as. If you're just going to rehash stuff from the original games then at least have the decency to include most of the features from Sonic 3 & Knuckles. With that said, the game does look fun. It will no doubt be a good fun game, but for a game with the title of Sonic 4 it's a complete disaster. There's always hope future episodes will be better but I'm not holding my breath.

Well now I guess it's time to anticipate the announcement of the next 3D Sonic. That should be good. I'm actually not joking. I usually like something about every 3D Sonic. Most of them just get let down by some awful gameplay elements. I wish they'd just make a sequel to Sonic Heroes, which I think is easily the best 3D Sonic and one of my favourite 3D platformers ever. An unleashed sequel works for me too though. Perfect the sonic gameplay, slow it down a tad, take out the hub, werehog and forced collectible crap and you've got a winner.

This game has already failed. The game is called Sonic 4,

burgeg

This is where I stopped. The game is not called Sonic 4. It's Sonic 4: Episode 1. It's 1/3 of the game and it's already stated in an interview that Episode 1 isa trial run.

This game has already failed. The game is called Sonic 4, yet if this was a game that got released just months after Sonic & Knuckles it would have been absolutely ripped apart by the fans. As a sequel to the original Megadrive series it's an absolute disgrace. Most of the levels are just rehashes. Splash Hill having a somewhat similar setting to Green Hill is nice, but when you've also got rehashes of Labrynth and Casino Night you've got a problem. That's especially bad considering there's only 4 zones in the game. Plus the bosses are all just rehashes of older bosses as well. Plus all the cool powerups introduced in Sonic 3 are gone. No new ones are there to replace them. Ah and of course Sonic is the only playable character. Why remove Tails and Knuckles? They were great fun to play as. If you're just going to rehash stuff from the original games then at least have the decency to include most of the features from Sonic 3 & Knuckles. With that said, the game does look fun. It will no doubt be a good fun game, but for a game with the title of Sonic 4 it's a complete disaster. There's always hope future episodes will be better but I'm not holding my breath.

Well now I guess it's time to anticipate the announcement of the next 3D Sonic. That should be good. I'm actually not joking. I usually like something about every 3D Sonic. Most of them just get let down by some awful gameplay elements. I wish they'd just make a sequel to Sonic Heroes, which I think is easily the best 3D Sonic and one of my favourite 3D platformers ever. An unleashed sequel works for me too though. Perfect the sonic gameplay, slow it down a tad, take out the hub, werehog and forced collectible crap and you've got a winner.

burgeg

If you wanna get technical, he never had quality on his side. That's what I don't understand. The originals had a lot of the same issues, mainly the level design and boss fights.sonicthemegaman

Sonic has always emphasised thrills and instant gratification over exploration and depth, which is more Mario's field. To that end, most Sonic games have delivered, even the recent ones that have been even more rough around the edges than before.

[QUOTE="burgeg"]

This game has already failed. The game is called Sonic 4, yet if this was a game that got released just months after Sonic & Knuckles it would have been absolutely ripped apart by the fans. As a sequel to the original Megadrive series it's an absolute disgrace. Most of the levels are just rehashes. Splash Hill having a somewhat similar setting to Green Hill is nice, but when you've also got rehashes of Labrynth and Casino Night you've got a problem. That's especially bad considering there's only 4 zones in the game. Plus the bosses are all just rehashes of older bosses as well. Plus all the cool powerups introduced in Sonic 3 are gone. No new ones are there to replace them. Ah and of course Sonic is the only playable character. Why remove Tails and Knuckles? They were great fun to play as. If you're just going to rehash stuff from the original games then at least have the decency to include most of the features from Sonic 3 & Knuckles. With that said, the game does look fun. It will no doubt be a good fun game, but for a game with the title of Sonic 4 it's a complete disaster. There's always hope future episodes will be better but I'm not holding my breath.

Well now I guess it's time to anticipate the announcement of the next 3D Sonic. That should be good. I'm actually not joking. I usually like something about every 3D Sonic. Most of them just get let down by some awful gameplay elements. I wish they'd just make a sequel to Sonic Heroes, which I think is easily the best 3D Sonic and one of my favourite 3D platformers ever. An unleashed sequel works for me too though. Perfect the sonic gameplay, slow it down a tad, take out the hub, werehog and forced collectible crap and you've got a winner.

sonicthemegaman

It's a shame, since no one should be able to complain until the game actually comes out.

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]If you wanna get technical, he never had quality on his side. That's what I don't understand. The originals had a lot of the same issues, mainly the level design and boss fights.Menalque2

Sonic has always emphasised thrills and instant gratification over exploration and depth, which is more Mario's field. To that end, most Sonic games have delivered, even the recent ones that have been even more rough around the edges than before.

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="burgeg"]

This game has already failed. The game is called Sonic 4, yet if this was a game that got released just months after Sonic & Knuckles it would have been absolutely ripped apart by the fans. As a sequel to the original Megadrive series it's an absolute disgrace. Most of the levels are just rehashes. Splash Hill having a somewhat similar setting to Green Hill is nice, but when you've also got rehashes of Labrynth and Casino Night you've got a problem. That's especially bad considering there's only 4 zones in the game. Plus the bosses are all just rehashes of older bosses as well. Plus all the cool powerups introduced in Sonic 3 are gone. No new ones are there to replace them. Ah and of course Sonic is the only playable character. Why remove Tails and Knuckles? They were great fun to play as. If you're just going to rehash stuff from the original games then at least have the decency to include most of the features from Sonic 3 & Knuckles. With that said, the game does look fun. It will no doubt be a good fun game, but for a game with the title of Sonic 4 it's a complete disaster. There's always hope future episodes will be better but I'm not holding my breath.

Well now I guess it's time to anticipate the announcement of the next 3D Sonic. That should be good. I'm actually not joking. I usually like something about every 3D Sonic. Most of them just get let down by some awful gameplay elements. I wish they'd just make a sequel to Sonic Heroes, which I think is easily the best 3D Sonic and one of my favourite 3D platformers ever. An unleashed sequel works for me too though. Perfect the sonic gameplay, slow it down a tad, take out the hub, werehog and forced collectible crap and you've got a winner.

It's a shame, since no one should be able to complain until the game actually comes out.

[QUOTE="burgeg"]

This game has already failed. The game is called Sonic 4, yet if this was a game that got released just months after Sonic & Knuckles it would have been absolutely ripped apart by the fans. As a sequel to the original Megadrive series it's an absolute disgrace. Most of the levels are just rehashes. Splash Hill having a somewhat similar setting to Green Hill is nice, but when you've also got rehashes of Labrynth and Casino Night you've got a problem. That's especially bad considering there's only 4 zones in the game. Plus the bosses are all just rehashes of older bosses as well. Plus all the cool powerups introduced in Sonic 3 are gone. No new ones are there to replace them. Ah and of course Sonic is the only playable character. Why remove Tails and Knuckles? They were great fun to play as. If you're just going to rehash stuff from the original games then at least have the decency to include most of the features from Sonic 3 & Knuckles. With that said, the game does look fun. It will no doubt be a good fun game, but for a game with the title of Sonic 4 it's a complete disaster. There's always hope future episodes will be better but I'm not holding my breath.

Well now I guess it's time to anticipate the announcement of the next 3D Sonic. That should be good. I'm actually not joking. I usually like something about every 3D Sonic. Most of them just get let down by some awful gameplay elements. I wish they'd just make a sequel to Sonic Heroes, which I think is easily the best 3D Sonic and one of my favourite 3D platformers ever. An unleashed sequel works for me too though. Perfect the sonic gameplay, slow it down a tad, take out the hub, werehog and forced collectible crap and you've got a winner.

sonicthemegaman

yep, and it makes me really not care about Sonic anymore anyways

i mean seriously... just gonna pick up Super Mario Galaxy and SMG2 and forget that blue thing even existed

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="burgeg"]

This game has already failed. The game is called Sonic 4, yet if this was a game that got released just months after Sonic & Knuckles it would have been absolutely ripped apart by the fans. As a sequel to the original Megadrive series it's an absolute disgrace. Most of the levels are just rehashes. Splash Hill having a somewhat similar setting to Green Hill is nice, but when you've also got rehashes of Labrynth and Casino Night you've got a problem. That's especially bad considering there's only 4 zones in the game. Plus the bosses are all just rehashes of older bosses as well. Plus all the cool powerups introduced in Sonic 3 are gone. No new ones are there to replace them. Ah and of course Sonic is the only playable character. Why remove Tails and Knuckles? They were great fun to play as. If you're just going to rehash stuff from the original games then at least have the decency to include most of the features from Sonic 3 & Knuckles. With that said, the game does look fun. It will no doubt be a good fun game, but for a game with the title of Sonic 4 it's a complete disaster. There's always hope future episodes will be better but I'm not holding my breath.

Well now I guess it's time to anticipate the announcement of the next 3D Sonic. That should be good. I'm actually not joking. I usually like something about every 3D Sonic. Most of them just get let down by some awful gameplay elements. I wish they'd just make a sequel to Sonic Heroes, which I think is easily the best 3D Sonic and one of my favourite 3D platformers ever. An unleashed sequel works for me too though. Perfect the sonic gameplay, slow it down a tad, take out the hub, werehog and forced collectible crap and you've got a winner.

yep, and it makes me really not care about Sonic anymore anyways

i mean seriously... just gonna pick up Super Mario Galaxy and SMG2 and forget that blue thing even existed