Sony Announces Q3 Results PS3 is at 33.5 mils units sold

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="Shattered007"] So, I just wanna make sure I got this right. FY of 2006 was 5.0 million before the PS3 game out...now it's at 5.5 million and Cows are talking about gaps being closed with 500,000 more sold then when the PS3 came out,and onwage since the PS3 has 33.5 sold? Man, I'd love to live in a world where you're still winning losing...My Brazilian Ju-Jistu ****s would be a lot funner.

Shattered007

Basically the 360's presence in America trumped the advantage in Japan and holiday sales offset Europe. Price cuts by both tipped the scales a bit and now the slim puts us a little bit ahead of 2007 because of better performance in America and Japan.

lol at all the people in the other thread that were so happy the gap was still at 8 million and how off vgchartz is. sure its not exact but pretty damn close.

lol at all the people in the other thread that were so happy the gap was still at 8 million and how off vgchartz is. sure its not exact but pretty damn close.

karsa-orlong

sony passed 27 million at the end of sep 09

microsoft passed 31 at the end of august 09 (and over 30 around may 09)

so microsoft sold 8 mill units in 4 months (as of CES 2010) and sony sold 4 million in 4 months (as of Dilles interview)?

interesting

i_am_interested

if it edit the numbers, sony claims that they sold 6 million over 3 months (oct, nov, dec) 4 if counting jan

and microsoft claims they sold 7+ million over 4 months (sep, oct, nov, dec) 5 if jan is counted

lol at all the people in the other thread that were so happy the gap was still at 8 million and how off vgchartz is. sure its not exact but pretty damn close.

karsa-orlong

[QUOTE="karsa-orlong"]

lol at all the people in the other thread that were so happy the gap was still at 8 million and how off vgchartz is. sure its not exact but pretty damn close.

i_am_interested

sony passed 27 million at the end of sep 09

microsoft passed 31 at the end of august 09 (and over 30 around may 09)

so microsoft sold 8 mill units in 4 months (as of CES 2010) and sony sold 4 million in 4 months (as of Dilles interview)?

interesting

i_am_interested

if it edit the numbers, sony claims that they sold 6 million over 3 months (oct, nov, dec) 4 if counting jan

and microsoft claims they sold 7+ million over 4 months (sep, oct, nov, dec) 5 if jan is counted

Now this makes more sense, there was no way 360 could have maintained the 8 million lead when Sony cut the price of the PS3. Interesting thing to note is that PS3 has yet to receive it's premier killer app, GT5. 360 already had it's Halo, I mean Halo's and Mario has already made it's appearance on the Wii in the form of the epic Mario Galaxy, and other titles featuring the Plumber. Though we have seen GT on PS3 they were but appetisers, demo's but the real deal is yet to come. Sure GT5 doesn't have a concrete release date but one thing is certain it will appear this year worldwide. I know most people don't consider GOW3 a system seller because the series arrived later into the PS2's lifespan but I have to say a lot of you guys will be surprised by how much it boosts system sales.

[QUOTE="karsa-orlong"]

lol at all the people in the other thread that were so happy the gap was still at 8 million and how off vgchartz is. sure its not exact but pretty damn close.

IronBass

im assuming the numbers ms and sony gave were shipped to retailers while vgchartz tries to track sold to consumers. so assuming theres millions of ps3s waiting to be sold...they're off but not "LOL vgchartz...credibility 0" off.

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] i kept telling people that either one of the numbers was wrong or both were and all they came up with was some rebuttal that never made any sense, talking about "inflated" sony numbers from the slim launch, blah blah blah

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

sony passed 27 million at the end of sep 09

microsoft passed 31 at the end of august 09 (and over 30 around may 09)

so microsoft sold 8 mill units in 4 months (as of CES 2010) and sony sold 4 million in 4 months (as of Dilles interview)?

interesting

shinrabanshou

if it edit the numbers, sony claims that they sold 6+ million over 3 months (oct, nov, dec) 4 if counting jan

and microsoft claims they sold 7+ million over 4 months (sep, oct, nov, dec) 5 if jan is counted

these new numbers make a lot more sense

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="karsa-orlong"]

lol at all the people in the other thread that were so happy the gap was still at 8 million and how off vgchartz is. sure its not exact but pretty damn close.

im assuming the numbers ms and sony gave were shipped to retailers while vgchartz tries to track sold to consumers. so assuming theres millions of ps3s waiting to be sold...they're off but not "LOL vgchartz...credibility 0" off.

Now this makes more sense, there was no way 360 could have maintained the 8 million lead when Sony cut the price of the PS3. Interesting thing to note is that PS3 has yet to receive it's premier killer app, GT5. 360 already had it's Halo, I mean Halo's and Mario has already made it's appearance on the Wii in the form of the epic Mario Galaxy, and other titles featuring the Plumber. Though we have seen GT o PS3 they were but appetisers, demo's but the real deal is yet to come. Sure GT5 doesn't have a concrete release date but one thing is certain it will appear this year worldwide. I know most people don't consider GOW3 a system seller because the series arrived later into the PS2's lifespan but I have to say a lot of you guys will be surprised by how much it boosts system sales.

[QUOTE="santoron"]

Stop it. You'll scare the fanboys with your strange new technology.... known as math. :roll:

Shattered007

My, aren't we smarmy this evening...

The point stands. And if this marks the day even a couple more fanboys understand the particulars of this "Race" (if one could even call something a race when one side had a full year headstart), then today was a good day.

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Now this makes more sense, there was no way 360 could have maintained the 8 million lead when Sony cut the price of the PS3. Interesting thing to note is that PS3 has yet to receive it's premier killer app, GT5. 360 already had it's Halo, I mean Halo's and Mario has already made it's appearance on the Wii in the form of the epic Mario Galaxy, and other titles featuring the Plumber. Though we have seen GT o PS3 they were but appetisers, demo's but the real deal is yet to come. Sure GT5 doesn't have a concrete release date but one thing is certain it will appear this year worldwide. I know most people don't consider GOW3 a system seller because the series arrived later into the PS2's lifespan but I have to say a lot of you guys will be surprised by how much it boosts system sales.

Shattered007

No it's not an opinion GT is Sony's Premier killer app, when a proper GT title has released the Playstation brand has always had a surge in sales. The games you listed though epic cannot really claim to be a system seller in the same league as Gran Turismo.

[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Now this makes more sense, there was no way 360 could have maintained the 8 million lead when Sony cut the price of the PS3. Interesting thing to note is that PS3 has yet to receive it's premier killer app, GT5. 360 already had it's Halo, I mean Halo's and Mario has already made it's appearance on the Wii in the form of the epic Mario Galaxy, and other titles featuring the Plumber. Though we have seen GT o PS3 they were but appetisers, demo's but the real deal is yet to come. Sure GT5 doesn't have a concrete release date but one thing is certain it will appear this year worldwide. I know most people don't consider GOW3 a system seller because the series arrived later into the PS2's lifespan but I have to say a lot of you guys will be surprised by how much it boosts system sales.

No it's not an opinion GT is Sony's Premier killer app, when a proper GT title has released the Playstation brand has always had a surge in sales. The games you listed though epic cannot really claim to be a system seller in the same league as Gran Turismo.

[QUOTE="Shattered007"]

[QUOTE="santoron"]

Stop it. You'll scare the fanboys with your strange new technology.... known as math. :roll:

santoron

My, aren't we smarmy this evening...

The point stands. And if this marks the day even a couple more fanboys understand the particulars of this "Race" (if one could even call something a race when one side had a full year headstart), then today was a good day.

EDIT: I love the fact that I like the 360 more makes me a fanboy. But I guess I'm really a secret hermit because I actually play on my PC more than both. :lol:

[QUOTE="santoron"]

[QUOTE="Shattered007"] :roll: My math was right, I didn't understand the quarters. But I guess that makes your grammar comprehension laughable, right?

Shattered007

The point stands. And if this marks the day even a couple more fanboys understand the particulars of this "Race" (if one could even call something a race when one side had a full year headstart), then today was a good day.

There's no way of knowing how many 360 units moved worldwide during the first 1/2 of the Dec 06 quarter before the PS3 launched, but it would have to be zero for your math to be right, which is highly unlikely.

This is all without taking into account that the PS3 didn't release in Europe until like March 2007.

[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

No it's not an opinion GT is Sony's Premier killer app, when a proper GT title has released the Playstation brand has always had a surge in sales. The games you listed though epic cannot really claim to be a system seller in the same league as Gran Turismo.

10 Million at least like every GT title in the past

GT5:P sold 4 million.. not bad for a demo huh?

[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Now this makes more sense, there was no way 360 could have maintained the 8 million lead when Sony cut the price of the PS3. Interesting thing to note is that PS3 has yet to receive it's premier killer app, GT5. 360 already had it's Halo, I mean Halo's and Mario has already made it's appearance on the Wii in the form of the epic Mario Galaxy, and other titles featuring the Plumber. Though we have seen GT o PS3 they were but appetisers, demo's but the real deal is yet to come. Sure GT5 doesn't have a concrete release date but one thing is certain it will appear this year worldwide. I know most people don't consider GOW3 a system seller because the series arrived later into the PS2's lifespan but I have to say a lot of you guys will be surprised by how much it boosts system sales.

Swift_Boss_A

No it's not an opinion GT is Sony's Premier killer app, when a proper GT title has released the Playstation brand has always had a surge in sales. The games you listed though epic cannot really claim to be a system seller in the same league as Gran Turismo.

The most important thing is how systems are doing before and after a release. The year games like MGS4 and Halo 3 released is the year that system lost ground in the sales battle.

[QUOTE="moti-123"]

[QUOTE="Shattered007"] Dare I ask what number are you expecting from GT5?Shattered007

10 Million at least like every GT title in the past

GT5:P sold 4 million.. not bad for a demo huh?

GT5 will do around 6~8 mils considering that the demo which many people didnt buy (including me though I'm a big GT fan) sold 4 mils when PS3 install base were alot smaller than now.

[QUOTE="moti-123"]

[QUOTE="Shattered007"] Dare I ask what number are you expecting from GT5?Shattered007

10 Million at least like every GT title in the past

GT5:P sold 4 million.. not bad for a demo huh?

6 million after 2 years? 2 years !? wow you really are not familiar with the GT franchise, and Im quite frankly shocked you consider 4 million for the demo version to be nothing spectacular, it outsold any Forza game released this gen on 360. GT5 if anything will sell 6 million before year end, even if it's released late this year, also it will give a healthy boost to PS3 but that's a given.

Sorry, but your math wasn't really right and you still seem to be under the impression that MSFT's Q2 begins in Nov...

There's no way of knowing how many 360 units moved worldwide during the first 3/5ths of the Dec 06 quarter before the PS3 launched, but it would have to be zero for your math to be right, which is highly unlikely.

shinrabanshou

Q2= November(2005)-January(2006) Q3= Febuary-April Q4 May-July Q1= Aguest- October. So it whould be 6.0 million as of November 1stShattered007

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]Sorry, but your math wasn't really right and you still seem to be under the impression that MSFT's Q2 begins in Nov...

There's no way of knowing how many 360 units moved worldwide during the first 3/5ths of the Dec 06 quarter before the PS3 launched, but it would have to be zero for your math to be right, which is highly unlikely.

Shattered007

So, if I'm calculating right, Q2= November(2005)-January(2006) Q3= Febuary-April Q4 May-July Q1= Aguest- October. So it whould be 6.0 million as of November 1stShattered007

The Playstation 3 launched in mid/late November 2006 in JP and NA i.e. in the middle of MSFT's Q2. I really don't see why having pointed this out prior, this still eludes you.

:| Perhaps you should corroborate your details, before trying to insult people, when all they've done is correct misconceptions in your statements...

[QUOTE="karsa-orlong"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] Not at all. They are like 2M off on the PS3, 1.5M on the 360 and more than 1 on the Wii. That's not "pretty damn close". At all.IronBass

im assuming the numbers ms and sony gave were shipped to retailers while vgchartz tries to track sold to consumers. so assuming theres millions of ps3s waiting to be sold...they're off but not "LOL vgchartz...credibility 0" off.

maybe its too late but i dont get your point at all. you say theres no difference between ship/sold but if sony says they shipped 33.5 million and vgchartz has 31.5million sold to consumers that means 2 million ps3s are on shelves right now waiting to be sold. 2 million is too high of a number but sonys numbers are shipped as of the end of january while vgchartz is jan 23 so add in another 150k or so around 31.7. so 1.8 million ps3s sitting on shelves world wide which seems too high so they are off....just not 2 million off.

I guess Sony fooled a lot of the Lemmings.XenogearsMaster

seemed to have fooled some the Cows as well.

I guess all the Cows here are all having a collective sigh of relief.LOL

and i just realized its jan 1st for sonys report so vgchartz is off even more lol so i guess im wrong. but like you said there estimates so they wont be exact but there not as bad as a lot of people make them out to be.

[QUOTE="HermitGTX"]

Now the PS3 has to sell games

2mrw

PS3 gets closer and closer. Ownage ensues :POdrec

Both factions need to be a bit more careful I think.

This is coming off the back of the FFXIII in Japan for PS3 only and the PS3 managing to just ease by as it was easily it's best year and the Xbox360's worst in the U.S.

I still believe the PS3 can not keep this momentum up and also Xbox360 will not continue tohave a repeat performances like '09 wth little in the way of exclusives or a big push in the way of a revamped console, significant price drop or to few system movers.

you can quote me on this this year is going to be too stellar for the Xbox360 and it will regain it's healthy lead over the PS3.

STRONG>Microsoft's Q2 is from October 1st to December 31st. Quarterly figures are reported a month after the quarter ends.

The Playstation 3 launched in mid/late November 2006 in JP and NA i.e. in the middle of MSFT's Q2. I really don't see why having pointed this out prior, this still eludes you.

:|

shinrabanshou

Stop it. You'll scare the fanboys with your strange new technology.... known as math. :roll:

santoron

[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="HermitGTX"]

Now the PS3 has to sell games

II_Seraphim_II

you exaggerate.

You can't deny that often then not more games sell on the Xbo360 then the PS3.

Even comparable multiplats.

the install base should not really be an excuse for the PS3 since it seems large enough already and all the attention and hype to PS3 exclusives in '09. So this should encourage more PS3 owners to buy games.

[QUOTE="Odrec"]PS3 gets closer and closer. Ownage ensues :PAdmiralBison

Both factions need to be a bit more careful I think.

This is coming off the back of the FFXIII in Japan for PS3 only and the PS3 managing to just ease by as it was easily it's best year and the Xbox360's worst in the U.S.

I still believe the PS3 can not keep this momentum up and also Xbox360 will not continue tohave a repeat performances like '09 wth little in the way of exclusives or a big push in the way of a revamped console, significant price drop or to few system movers.

you can quote me on this this year is going to be too stellar for the Xbox360 and it will regain it's healthy lead over the PS3.

i dont think so. the ps3 did have a push with ffxiii but the 360 has been having sales all over the place. walmarts 100 gc with the purchase of the arcade was a little while ago and they had the 50 gc a couple of weeks ago and next week they're having 25 gcs or free controllers with the purchase of an xbox. ms is gonna need to have a pretty big price drop for them to regain a healthly lead.

Now, Had my dates been right my math would have been accurate.

Shattered007

But now having clarified that you would have calculated differently with the correct quarterly bookends, it should be clear it's not as clear cut as saying the 360 "only" had a lead of 6 million - the 360 install base at the end of MSFT Q1 2007 - when the PS3 wasn't released in JP and NA until midway through MSFT Q2 2007 and wasn't released in Europe until about the start of MSFTs Q4.

The initial assertion that the PS3 has made little inroads into the lead is rather incorrect when there was an 8.7 million difference as at 1 Jan 2007, compared to a 5.2 million difference now at the start of 2010.

[QUOTE="Odrec"]PS3 gets closer and closer. Ownage ensues :PAdmiralBison

Both factions need to be a bit more careful I think.

This is coming off the back of the FFXIII in Japan for PS3 only and the PS3 managing to just ease by as it was easily it's best year and the Xbox360's worst in the U.S.

I still believe the PS3 can not keep this momentum up and also Xbox360 will not continue tohave a repeat performances like '09 wth little in the way of exclusives or a big push in the way of a revamped console, significant price drop or to few system movers.

you can quote me on this this year is going to be too stellar for the Xbox360 and it will regain it's healthy lead over the PS3.

Something tells me you are putting a lot of emphasis on the American games market, sure 360 looks to have a better year ahead compared to 09 but PS3 is not giving up this year or taking it slow. Speaking of exclusives GOW3 and GT5 can easily rival Reach and Wake, both systems have just as big exclusives coming out. Im not gonna speak of the motion tech because personally I don't think either one is gonna take off but I believe Sony Arch will ride off of the success of the Wiimote for a few months. Something tells me that Natal is going to have problems at launch, not working as well, lag and whatnot, I heard a while back N'Gai saying it doesn't work as well with dark skinned people? It will be funny if such a problem happens at launch. Anyway both systems will obviously have price cuts this year but whereas 360 will sell better in America I can see PS3 selling better worldwide and definitely decreasing the 360's lead.

[QUOTE="Shattered007"]Now, Had my dates been right my math would have been accurate.

But now having clarified that you would have calculated differently with the correct quarterly bookends, it should be clear it's not as clear cut as saying the 360 "only" had a lead of 6 million - the 360 install base at the end of MSFT Q1 2007 - when the PS3 wasn't released in JP and NA until midway through MSFT Q2 2007 and wasn't released in Europe until about the start of MSFTs Q4.

The initial assertion that the PS3 has made little inroads into the lead is rather incorrect when there was an 8.7 million difference as at 1 Jan 2007, compared to a 5.2 million difference now at the start of 2010.

About VGCharts, their numbers were 31.5:37.4 = ratio of 0.842. The numbers in this thread give a 33.5:38.7 = ratio of 0.866. Two points here - first VGCharts are not too far off, second - they actually give a lower ratio for PS3, something which lemmings think is the other way around.

And another calculation - per year sales. 360 started more than 4 years ago, but calling it 4 years is erring on the side of MS, because PS had its launch in Europe in March, so let's call it 4 years and 3 years, respectivelly for MS and Sony (for Sony it's more than 3 in US and JP and less in EU, for MS it's more than 4 in all regions).

PS - 33.5/3 years = 11.16 million units sold per year

360 - 38.7/4 years = 9.67 million units sold per year

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

[QUOTE="Odrec"]PS3 gets closer and closer. Ownage ensues :PSwift_Boss_A

Both factions need to be a bit more careful I think.

This is coming off the back of the FFXIII in Japan for PS3 only and the PS3 managing to just ease by as it was easily it's best year and the Xbox360's worst in the U.S.

I still believe the PS3 can not keep this momentum up and also Xbox360 will not continue tohave a repeat performances like '09 wth little in the way of exclusives or a big push in the way of a revamped console, significant price drop or to few system movers.

you can quote me on this this year is going to be too stellar for the Xbox360 and it will regain it's healthy lead over the PS3.

Something tells me you are putting a lot of emphasis on the American games market, sure 360 looks to have a better year ahead compared to 09 but PS3 is not giving up this year or taking it slow. Speaking of exclusives GOW3 and GT5 can easily rival Reach and Wake, both systems have just as big exclusives coming out. Im not gonna speak of the motion tech because personally I don't think either one is gonna take off but I believe Sony Arch will ride off of the success of the Wiimote for a few months. Something tells me that Natal is going to have problems at launch, not working as well, lag and whatnot, I heard a while back N'Gai saying it doesn't work as well with dark skinned people? It will be funny if such a problem happens at launch. Anyway both systems will obviously have price cuts this year but whereas 360 will sell better in America I can see PS3 selling better worldwide and definitely decreasing the 360's lead.

Just earlier today they were 8 million behind.

-Sir-Poof-

Now the PS3 has to sell games

HermitGTX

[QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

Just earlier today they were 8 million behind.

uRan_Ehr

lol at all the people in the other thread that were so happy the gap was still at 8 million and how off vgchartz is. sure its not exact but pretty damn close.

karsa-orlong