Sony Announces Q3 Results PS3 is at 33.5 mils units sold

Hmm its good to see the PS3 gain some steam because it was doing terrible in the beginning. vincent380

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[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]I guess Sony fooled a lot of the Lemmings.Rippou

Look at it this way, at least MS isn't losing money like Sony still is off of each console being sold.

PS3 gets closer and closer. Ownage ensues :POdrec

Looks like all the lemmings in the other threads got owned. I knew 31 million didnt make much sense, looks like I was right. :)FIipMode

so which numbers are true.....stereointegrity

[QUOTE="Rippou"][QUOTE="garland51"]

Look at it this way, at least MS isn't losing money like Sony still is off of each console being sold.

Giancar

When does Sony's Q4 end? March 31st?

The Q4 numbers are going to be very interesting. They are actually close to on target for hitting that 13m mark...

A lot of people may be eating crow very soon

great job for sony. LOL at lems who actually thought that the gap is about 8m units

great job for sony. LOL at lems who actually thought that the gap is about 8m units

sasapac

great job for sony. LOL at lems who actually thought that the gap is about 8m units

so the PS3 is at 31 million

then it's at 33.5 million

and the 360 was at 39 million

or something

*confused*

31 million isn't too far off, and if history is any indication Sony is well on its way of producing another 100 million consoles sold.Adrian_Cloud

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Both factions need to be a bit more careful I think.

This is coming off the back of the FFXIII in Japan for PS3 only and the PS3 managing to just ease by as it was easily it's best year and the Xbox360's worst in the U.S.

I still believe the PS3 can not keep this momentum up and also Xbox360 will not continue tohave a repeat performances like '09 wth little in the way of exclusives or a big push in the way of a revamped console, significant price drop or to few system movers.

you can quote me on this this year is going to be too stellar for the Xbox360 and it will regain it's healthy lead over the PS3.

Syn_Valence

Something tells me you are putting a lot of emphasis on the American games market, sure 360 looks to have a better year ahead compared to 09 but PS3 is not giving up this year or taking it slow. Speaking of exclusives GOW3 and GT5 can easily rival Reach and Wake, both systems have just as big exclusives coming out. Im not gonna speak of the motion tech because personally I don't think either one is gonna take off but I believe Sony Arch will ride off of the success of the Wiimote for a few months. Something tells me that Natal is going to have problems at launch, not working as well, lag and whatnot, I heard a while back N'Gai saying it doesn't work as well with dark skinned people? It will be funny if such a problem happens at launch. Anyway both systems will obviously have price cuts this year but whereas 360 will sell better in America I can see PS3 selling better worldwide and definitely decreasing the 360's lead.

Just earlier today they were 8 million behind.

-Sir-Poof-

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Just earlier today they were 8 million behind.

xsubtownerx

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

Just earlier today they were 8 million behind.

i_am_interested

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]I guess Sony fooled a lot of the Lemmings.garland51

Look at it this way, at least MS isn't losing money like Sony still is off of each console being sold.

They actually made a profit.So yeah.

[QUOTE="Odrec"]PS3 gets closer and closer. Ownage ensues :Pfenwickhotmail

The PS3 launched later and at a much higher price. If it manages to pull off second place as well as dragging the Blu ray format to victory that will be a GREAT SUCCESS for Sony.Javy03

Great success!?!? Gutted market share, hemmoraging money, hoping like madto come in second... thats what you call a great success? Heres a tip: when you're finished high school don't go into business!

[QUOTE="Javy03"]The PS3 launched later and at a much higher price. If it manages to pull off second place as well as dragging the Blu ray format to victory that will be a GREAT SUCCESS for Sony.gensigns

Great success!?!? Gutted market share, hemmoraging money, hoping like madto come in second... thats what you call a great success? Heres a tip: when you're finished high school don't go into business!

they could wussed out like microsoft and abandoned millions by releasing a new console, but they didnt, they fought it out through cost of manufacturing redutions

yeah, it is a great success, especially if profitability continues from here on

i_am_interested

uhhh - you know they're NEVER going to make the cost back. It's basically a huge black hole that sucked all the profits from the PS2 in.

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

yeah, it is a great success, especially if profitability continues from here on

gensigns

uhhh - you know they're NEVER going to make the cost back. It's basically a huge black hole that sucked all the profits from the PS2 in.

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[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]I guess Sony fooled a lot of the Lemmings.Lionheart08

Look at it this way, at least MS isn't losing money like Sony still is off of each console being sold.

They actually made a profit.So yeah.

And? He didn't say that they weren't making a profit as a whole. He said they are still losing money on each console sold. Which according to the latest estimates we have Link is still true.

Here is the actual statement from their financial report regarding the Networked Products and Services division

"Operating income of 19.4 billion Yen ($211 million) was recorded, an improvement of 25.3 billion yen year-on-year, primarily due to higher VAIO PC sales. In the game business, despite a decrease in PS2 hardware and software unit sales, and PSP hardware unit sales, profitability was relatively unchanged mainly due to an improvement in the cost of PS3 hardware."

So from this we know:

1) The profitability of the division for this recent quarter is largely due to VAIO PC Sales
2) PS3 hardware costs were improved for the most recent quarter
3) The profitability of the gaming segment in particular remains relatively unchanged.

Now since they were losing money previously in their gaming segment, and their profitability remains unchanged for the current quarter (because the decrease in PS3 costs was offset by the decrease in PS2/PSP sales), one could assume their gaming segment is still losing money, but the division as a whole is making money because it was bouyed by better PC sales (ironically enough, probably because of the Win7 release)

Also, regarding the gap between the PS3 and X360. I think people are again confusing numbers sold and numbers shipped. In their report they list cumulative lifetime shipment numbers of the PS3 at approx 33.5 million. The 31 million number given by the Sony exec yesterday was likely an estimate of actual sell-through to consumers. The only question is whether the 39 million figure given by MS last year was total shipped or an estimate of sell-through. I'm inclined to believe it was the former, putting the gap at approximately 5.5 million.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]31 million isn't too far off, and if history is any indication Sony is well on its way of producing another 100 million consoles sold.yoyo462001

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[QUOTE="garland51"]

Look at it this way, at least MS isn't losing money like Sony still is off of each console being sold.

KodiakGTS

They actually made a profit.So yeah.

And? He didn't say thatthey weren't making a profit as a whole. He said they are still losing money on each console sold. Which according to the latest estimates we have Link is still true.

Here is the actual statement from their financial report regarding the Networked Products and Services division

"Operating income of 19.4 billion Yen ($211 million) was recorded, an improvement of 25.3 billion yen year-on-year, primarily due to higher VAIO PC sales. In the game business, despite a decrease in PS2 hardware and software unit sales, and PSP hardware unit sales, profitability was relatively unchanged mainly due to an improvement in the cost of PS3 hardware."

So from this we know:

1) The profitability of the division for this recent quarter is largely due to VAIO PC Sales
2) PS3 hardware costs were improved for the most recent quarter
3) The profitability of the gamingsegment in particularremains relatively unchanged.

Now since they were losing money previously in their gaming segment, and their profitability remains unchanged for the current quarter (because the decrease in PS3 costs was offset by the decrease in PS2/PSP sales), one could assume their gamingsegment is still losing money, but the division as a whole is making money because it was bouyed by better PC sales.

Also, regarding the gap between the PS3 and X360. I think people are again confusing numbers sold and numbers shipped. In their report

yeah theyre still losing money on the console alone but its small enough compared to previously to offset the drop in ps2 and psp sales

no one said that dropping ithe manufacturing costs of a console that supposed costed $800 (at least) to 299 was going to be quick and easy

as for sold vs shipped, lets not even argue about that, no one has any concrete information on that

what do you have to say about the 3 billion that the original xbox just flushed? who cares about the ps2 profits that came in a long time ago, corporate execs and shareholders got their share of that and future investments were made on the ps3i_am_interested

Lets see, that "3 billion" took MSfrom nothing inthe Sony-dominated home console market to it's current position AHEAD of the former leader. Sony spent and lost itself into 3rd place and a fraction of the base it had a half-decade ago. Which one is the sucess story?

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]what do you have to say about the 3 billion that the original xbox just flushed? who cares about the ps2 profits that came in a long time ago, corporate execs and shareholders got their share of that and future investments were made on the ps3gensigns

Lets see, that "3 billion" took MSfrom nothing inthe Sony-dominated home console market to it's current position AHEAD of the former leader. Sony spent and lost itself into 3rd place and a fraction of the base it had a half-decade ago. Which one is the sucess story?

sony knows exactly what caused them to be at this point

while microsoft has no idea why theyre not in first, cheapest console? - check, out first? - check, best online? - check, most diverse line up? - check, timed exclusives? - check

tell me more about business school

[QUOTE="Javy03"]The PS3 launched later and at a much higher price. If it manages to pull off second place as well as dragging the Blu ray format to victory that will be a GREAT SUCCESS for Sony.gensigns

Great success!?!? Gutted market share, hemmoraging money, hoping like madto come in second... thats what you call a great success? Heres a tip: when you're finished high school don't go into business!

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yeah, it is a great success, especially if profitability continues from here on

gensigns

uhhh - you know they're NEVER going to make the cost back. It's basically a huge black hole that sucked all the profits from the PS2 in.

Either way it looks like the PS3 is finally moving along at a good clip....

It's also pretty obvious that the 360 is a success (double install base from last gen) and Sony has a road of recovery to claim back a ton of lost yardage from the success of the PS2 last gen.

And the obvious --- Nintendo just crushed it.

sony has a chance to take 2nd after all the doom and gloom that people forecasted (high price, no games, no online, lost exclusives)i_am_interested

Again, your own words"a chance to take second". How is that a success as a console that once dominated with 80ish% of the market?

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]sony has a chance to take 2nd after all the doom and gloom that people forecasted (high price, no games, no online, lost exclusives)gensigns

Again, your own words"a chance to take second". How is that a success as a console that once dominated with 80ish% of the market?

First of all the 360 has sold over the years at a steady pace, approximately 9.7 million a year on a world wide basis, accumulating in a total of around 39 million units to date in 4.5 years. Halo 3, Gears or Modern Warfare didn't actually do much to give it slight boost in their respective years to allocate a certain boost in hardware sales to the presence of their releases.

PS3 on the other hand has been climbing year to year, with about the same sales of around 9-10 million sales in its first year (like the 360) to more than 12 million units this year, making the gap to about 5 million to date. That is pretty impressive. 2010 is going to be the PS3 strongest year with the release of both Final Fantasy 13(a Sony Franchise) in the west and Sony's premiere blockbuster GT5. I think GT5 will do in Europe what FF13 did in Japan, selling lots of PS3's.

If the PS3 contineus to sell and climb at this rateand the 360 maintains it steady pace2010 will look like this: 14 million for PS3 and 9.7 million for xbox 360. Almost entirely closing the gap at the end of 2010.

2nd quarter 2011, PS3 exceeds Xbox 360 in worldwide sales, according to this logic.

First of all the 360 has sold over the years at a steady pace, approximately 9.7 million a year on a world wide basis, accumulating in a total of around 39 million units to date in 4.5 years. Halo 3, Gears or Modern Warfare didn't actually do much to give it slight boost in their respective years to allocate a certain boost in hardware sales to the presence of their releases.

PS3 on the other hand has been climbing year to year, with about the same sales of around 9-10 million sales in its first year (like the 360) to more than 12 million units this year, making the gap to about 5 million to date. That is pretty impressive. 2010 is going to be the PS3 strongest year with the release of both Final Fantasy 13(a Sony Franchise) in the west and Sony's premiere blockbuster GT5. I think GT5 will do in Europe what FF13 did in Japan, selling lots of PS3's.

If the PS3 contineus to sell and climb at this rateand the 360 maintains it steady pace2010 will look like this: 14 million for PS3 and 9.7 million for xbox 360. Almost entirely closing the gap at the end of 2010.

2nd quarter 2011, PS3 exceeds Xbox 360 in worldwide sales, according to this logic.

HerzogJan

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First of all the 360 has sold over the years at a steady pace, approximately 9.7 million a year on a world wide basis, accumulating in a total of around 39 million units to date in 4.5 years. Halo 3, Gears or Modern Warfare didn't actually do much to give it slight boost in their respective years to allocate a certain boost in hardware sales to the presence of their releases.

PS3 on the other hand has been climbing year to year, with about the same sales of around 9-10 million sales in its first year (like the 360) to more than 12 million units this year, making the gap to about 5 million to date. That is pretty impressive. 2010 is going to be the PS3 strongest year with the release of both Final Fantasy 13(a Sony Franchise) in the west and Sony's premiere blockbuster GT5. I think GT5 will do in Europe what FF13 did in Japan, selling lots of PS3's.

If the PS3 contineus to sell and climb at this rateand the 360 maintains it steady pace2010 will look like this: 14 million for PS3 and 9.7 million for xbox 360. Almost entirely closing the gap at the end of 2010.

2nd quarter 2011, PS3 exceeds Xbox 360 in worldwide sales, according to this logic.

Adrian_Cloud

Craze like sales like the Wii, IPOD or the Backstraat Boys honestly, I have never understood at all. No one could imagine in 2006 that the Wii is going to outsell even PS2 at this pace, it is not conencted to logic what the masses will do. Their mind is not my mind (hardcore gamer), so I can't say. Will NATAL boost sales with the hardcore gamer? I dont think so.

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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]sony has a chance to take 2nd after all the doom and gloom that people forecasted (high price, no games, no online, lost exclusives)i_am_interested

Again, your own words"a chance to take second". How is that a success as a console that once dominated with 80ish% of the market?

Sentimental postition. Is that whats it's called now when you fall from the top?

And what more do you need to know about the 360's success this gen - it sold more than it's predecessor, captured a huge market share, and is making money.

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lol vgchartz way off. according to them sony only @31.54M. btw is it shipped or sold?

Totalgym9000

jeez.... dont start with that bs

vgchartz doesnt count anything, they just estimate. they have no way of counting what is sold to the public

so stop spreading nonsense and educate yourself by checking their website on how they get their numbers

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="gensigns"]

Again, your own words"a chance to take second". How is that a success as a console that once dominated with 80ish% of the market?

gensigns

Sentimental postition. Is that whats it's called now when you fall from the top?

And what more do you need to know about the 360's success this gen - it sold more than it's predecessor, captured a huge market share, and is making money.

microsoft dug themselves in a hole with the original xbox and decided to dig themselves out with the 360

sony dug themselvs in a hole with the ps3 and theyre digging themselvs out with the ps3

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="HerzogJan"]

First of all the 360 has sold over the years at a steady pace, approximately 9.7 million a year on a world wide basis, accumulating in a total of around 39 million units to date in 4.5 years. Halo 3, Gears or Modern Warfare didn't actually do much to give it slight boost in their respective years to allocate a certain boost in hardware sales to the presence of their releases.

PS3 on the other hand has been climbing year to year, with about the same sales of around 9-10 million sales in its first year (like the 360) to more than 12 million units this year, making the gap to about 5 million to date. That is pretty impressive. 2010 is going to be the PS3 strongest year with the release of both Final Fantasy 13(a Sony Franchise) in the west and Sony's premiere blockbuster GT5. I think GT5 will do in Europe what FF13 did in Japan, selling lots of PS3's.

If the PS3 contineus to sell and climb at this rateand the 360 maintains it steady pace2010 will look like this: 14 million for PS3 and 9.7 million for xbox 360. Almost entirely closing the gap at the end of 2010.

2nd quarter 2011, PS3 exceeds Xbox 360 in worldwide sales, according to this logic.

HerzogJan

Craze like sales like the Wii, IPOD or the Backstraat Boys honestly, I have never understood at all. No one could imagine in 2006 that the Wii is going to outsell even PS2 at this pace, it is not conencted to logic what the masses will do. Their mind is not my mind (hardcore gamer), so I can't say. Will NATAL boost sales with the hardcore gamer? I dont think so.

Just like I told the lems on the other thread, an off the cuff number shouldn't just be taken as fact so quickly, looks like all the lems were dead wrong :lol:TintedEyes

It's funny watching all the lems running rampant on the other thread yet this one is dead silent. Guess they all ran back into hiding (or jumped off a cliff).

It's funny watching all the lems running rampant on the other thread yet this one is dead silent. Guess they all ran back into hiding (or jumped off a cliff).

OneLazyAsian