Sony block access to PSN for PSJAILBREAK users

If he has quoted Wikipedia it MUST be true........

Ignoring the fact that laws around the world are very different and ignoring the dictionary definition of stealing still applies despite what the law says (although you are good at generalisations!), ie to take something that does not belong to you without repreive, then you are still a troll who googles and wiki's his way through life.

But i must be a console kid right because you generalising mind can't possibily use anything to justify itself!

[QUOTE="hiryu3"][QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

copyright infrigment is not the same as stealing. Learn the difference.

And I'm not downloading anything since I don't own a PS3 but I can understand people who do it with those games which last you a few hours and having to pay $60-70 for them.

UnrealDelusion

Rentinga game isstealing it. Since you didn't the developers who worked hard on the game to play it.

So your point?

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="hiryu3"] your senes of morals blows my minds. Justify all you want stealing is stealing. Downloading a game that lasts 4 hours but costs $70 is not a reason to get it for free. Ever heard of rental services?hiryu3

Rentinga game isstealing it. Since you didn't the developers who worked hard on the game to play it.

So your point?

You still didn't buy the game so you stole the game.

[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

Rentinga game isstealing it. Since you didn't the developers who worked hard on the game to play it.

So your point?

UnrealDelusion

You didn't pay full price to own the game and thus to the logic in this thread it is stealing and no rental services don't pay fees.

Clearly not, as long as consideration was given, at any level. Consideration was given and accepted was granted, hence a contract. This is true of common and civil law, but hey you know that don't ya? Your perception of the logic in this thread is still flawed.

No you are just more stupid than a donkey but that's okay your parents don't cry themselves to sleep anymore for having you.

Oh what a surprise not retort that can correct me so resort to being a child!!!

so basically you really are just the console kid you despise -FAIL!

STOP FEEDING THE TROLL.

Admins/Mods are obviously still asleep. Ignore him!!

STOP FEEDING THE TROLL.

Admins/Mods are obviously still asleep. Ignore him!!

zero_snake99

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]He did not insult anyone.bleehum

I should have added ... till he started getting insulted, or accused of endorsing piracy which he didn't do.

People shouldn't get so heated up when he wasnt implying anything about piracy being good.

Also I find the argument that every download is a sale lost wrong.

My DVD reader is disconnected (damn you 5850 and your dual powercord needs). So if I buy anything I gotta download it and virtual drive it. For example, the CS5 student suite, which i got a code for. Also, I got once my jed knight Academy CD1 stolen... I had to virtual mount from that point on. Neither are sales lost.

Well in that case the publishers can't expect to be obligated to receive money for the games they make.

UnrealDelusion

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]

STOP FEEDING THE TROLL.

Admins/Mods are obviously still asleep. Ignore him!!

abuabed

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

Well in that case the publishers can't expect to be obligated to receive money for the games they make.

lowe0

But they got to play it without buying them so it seems those people have 3 options

It didn't take long for this troll account to turn into a suicide account did it?

[QUOTE="abuabed"][QUOTE="zero_snake99"]

STOP FEEDING THE TROLL.

Admins/Mods are obviously still asleep. Ignore him!!

zero_snake99

For my own safety I'm going...

It didn't take long for this troll account to turn into a suicide account did it?

Dahaka-UK

so many accounts so little time to enlighten you people with the glory that i am

[QUOTE="bleehum"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]He did not insult anyone.blitzcloud

I should have added ... till he started getting insulted, or accused of endorsing piracy which he didn't do.

People shouldn't get so heated up when he wasnt implying anything about piracy being good.

Also I find the argument that every download is a sale lost wrong.

My DVD reader is disconnect (damn you 5850 and your dual powercord needs). So if I buy anything I gotta download it and virtual drive it. For example, the CS5 student suite, which i got a code for. Also, I got once my jed knight Academy CD1 stolen... I had to virtual mount from that point on. Neither are sales lost.

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[QUOTE="bleehum"] :| What have you been reading?zero_snake99

I should have added ... till he started getting insulted, or accused of endorsing piracy which he didn't do.

People shouldn't get so heated up when he wasnt implying anything about piracy being good.

Also I find the argument that every download is a sale lost wrong.

My DVD reader is disconnect (damn you 5850 and your dual powercord needs). So if I buy anything I gotta download it and virtual drive it. For example, the CS5 student suite, which i got a code for. Also, I got once my jed knight Academy CD1 stolen... I had to virtual mount from that point on. Neither are sales lost.

So in other words you pirated someone elses property and are now justifying it?

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

I should have added ... till he started getting insulted, or accused of endorsing piracy which he didn't do.

People shouldn't get so heated up when he wasnt implying anything about piracy being good.

Also I find the argument that every download is a sale lost wrong.

My DVD reader is disconnect (damn you 5850 and your dual powercord needs). So if I buy anything I gotta download it and virtual drive it. For example, the CS5 student suite, which i got a code for. Also, I got once my jed knight Academy CD1 stolen... I had to virtual mount from that point on. Neither are sales lost.

UnrealDelusion

So in other words you pirated someone elses property and are now justifying it?

the problem is, you're condoning and encouraging piracy, and thinking its not wrong. your morals and ethics are twisted. that's the problem.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"] None of those were the case for what he mentioned. He was talking about downloading PSN games. That falls into none of those categories. I've downloaded a few CDs before, but that's because my brother went on a rage spree and broke a bunch of my stuff. That's understandable, but downloading PSN games... there is no way to justify it. He also clearly stated that downloading a copy of a game isn't illegal, it is, unless you legitimately own a copy of it yourself.dethroned3

So in other words you pirated someone elses property and are now justifying it?

the problem is, you're condoning and encouraging piracy, and thinking its not wrong. your morals and ethics are twisted. that's the problem.

the problem is that you peoplenot knowing the difference between stealing and copyright infrigment and pointing it out is not endorsing it.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

Well in that case the publishers can't expect to be obligated to receive money for the games they make.

UnrealDelusion

But they got to play it without buying them so it seems those people have 3 options

Come on, this is an account suicide, lets just let it end and go about our business. :)

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] No, they are not entitled to revenue simply by virtue of having made a game. However, they ARE entitled to revenue if you choose to play the product of their efforts. If you don't feel a developer deserves to be paid for what they have created, you have an option to do exactly that: don't buy it. Just don't expect to get to play it without paying.lowe0

But they got to play it without buying them so it seems those people have 3 options

It is life is all about choices and options so you can opt to buy the game, not buying and thus not playing it or dont'pay for it/download it and play the game

the last one isn't the correct choice but it's still one one has so no no need to try again.

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

I should have added ... till he started getting insulted, or accused of endorsing piracy which he didn't do.

People shouldn't get so heated up when he wasnt implying anything about piracy being good.

Also I find the argument that every download is a sale lost wrong.

My DVD reader is disconnect (damn you 5850 and your dual powercord needs). So if I buy anything I gotta download it and virtual drive it. For example, the CS5 student suite, which i got a code for. Also, I got once my jed knight Academy CD1 stolen... I had to virtual mount from that point on. Neither are sales lost.

UnrealDelusion

So in other words you pirated someone elses property and are now justifying it?

the problem is that you peoplenot knowing the difference between stealing and copyright infrigment and pointing it out is not endorsing it.

UnrealDelusion

it is stealing you little rat.

Downloading pirated movies is stealing and downloading a game is stealing.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2058650006788128918#

Come on, this is an account suicide, lets just let it end and go about our business. :)

jimkabrhel

You mean playing saints here and meanwhile keep on downloading music and movies and probably games too.

You're all guilty of piracy.

[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

copyright infrigment is not the same as stealing. Learn the difference.

UnrealDelusion

Yes there is to steal something you have to take an actual object (in this case the game) away from the owner (developers/publishers). So explain how you do take the object away from the owner without actually touching it.

So yes there is a difference.

Not in this case it isn't. Someone downloaded the product. While THEY can't touch it, their PS3 HOLDS (touches) said product that wasn't paid for. If you can't afford the game, just rent it.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

the problem is that you peoplenot knowing the difference between stealing and copyright infrigment and pointing it out is not endorsing it.

dethroned3

it is stealing you little rat.

Downloading pirated movies is stealing and downloading a game is stealing.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2058650006788128918#

It's COPYRIGHT INFRIGMENT!!!!!

you don't steal anything since you never took anything away!

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Come on, this is an account suicide, lets just let it end and go about our business. :)

sts106mat

You mean playing saints here and meanwhile keep on downloading music and movies and probably games too.

You're all guilty of piracy.

so you are calling yourself scum too?

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="dethroned3"]

it is stealing you little rat.

Downloading pirated movies is stealing and downloading a game is stealing.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2058650006788128918#

sts106mat

It's COPYRIGHT INFRIGMENT!!!!!

you don't steal anything since you never took anything away!

basically its stealing. if you sneak into the back door of a cinema your breaking the law, not sure if its stealing, but its wrong, just like pirating games etc is.

I already said much earlier in the thread it's wrong but apparently pointing out it is seen as copyright infrigment according to the law and not stealing is endorsing it by you people :lol:

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

It's COPYRIGHT INFRIGMENT!!!!!

you don't steal anything since you never took anything away!

UnrealDelusion

basically its stealing. if you sneak into the back door of a cinema your breaking the law, not sure if its stealing, but its wrong, just like pirating games etc is.

I already said much earlier in the thread it's wrong but apparently pointing out it is seen as copyright infrigment according to the law and not stealing is endorsing it by you people :lol:

Copyright infringement = to infringe with the intent of stealing = stealing.

Common logic mate, it's stealing. XD

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

basically its stealing. if you sneak into the back door of a cinema your breaking the law, not sure if its stealing, but its wrong, just like pirating games etc is.

Zanoh

I already said much earlier in the thread it's wrong but apparently pointing out it is seen as copyright infrigment according to the law and not stealing is endorsing it by you people :lol:

Copyright infringement = to infringe with the intent of stealing = stealing.

Common logic mate, it's stealing. XD

No it's not stealing in the context of taking something away from someone.

[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

I already said much earlier in the thread it's wrong but apparently pointing out it is seen as copyright infrigment according to the law and not stealing is endorsing it by you people :lol:

UnrealDelusion

Copyright infringement = to infringe with the intent of stealing = stealing.

Common logic mate, it's stealing. XD

No it's not stealing in the context of taking something away from someone.

go watch the damn ad.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2058650006788128918#

it says that piracy is stealing in plain and simple english.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

But they got to play it without buying them so it seems those people have 3 options

UnrealDelusion

It is life is all about choices and options so you can opt to buy the game, not buying and thus not playing it or dont'pay for it/download it and play the game

the last one isn't the correct choice but it's still one one has so no no need to try again.

No if's and or Butts, it's called Intellectual Property ( IP) and to use it without paying the owner is indeed stealing unless he/she gifts it to you or makes it public domain.

good, if you are a thief you deserve to get punished for it.

[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

I already said much earlier in the thread it's wrong but apparently pointing out it is seen as copyright infrigment according to the law and not stealing is endorsing it by you people :lol:

UnrealDelusion

Copyright infringement = to infringe with the intent of stealing = stealing.

Common logic mate, it's stealing. XD

No it's not stealing in the context of taking something away from someone.