Sony: Competitors 'Continue peddling add-ons to keep up with the Jones''

But shouldn't Sony add $50+ to the PS3's price for the HDMI cable you have to buy?PBSnipes

In the UK you can get a 360 with a 60gb HDD and HDMI for 160 pounds, the 80gb PS3 is 300 pounds.

Even adding on XBL it still doesn't come to as much as the PS3.

[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]PS3 has more going on for it than just blu-ray. For starters, it's reliable, something that is priceless for some people, myself included. And please, calling PS3's library weak at this point is what is a laughable joke. Just because it doesn't appeal to you, doesn't mean it's weak. Give some credit where it's due, even if you don't like it. angry_fork

[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="PAL360"] PS3 game library isnt weak for sure. But for $199 i can play 90% of PS3 library and about 300 games more! Looks so easy to get :?PAL360

Sony failed to mention that the 360 doesnt even come with a charger for the joystick. Thats another $20. They just nickle and dime you to death.

Sony failed to mention that the 360 doesnt even come with a charger for the joystick. Thats another $20. They just nickle and dime you to death.

Mr_Ditters

October 19th 2006

Sony is just so original in its arguments. They merely just recycle them much in the same fashion you see on these boards. 200X or 201X. Come on people Sony did this 2 years ago and they didn't make head way then. What genius thought that it would work now 2 years later?

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]But shouldn't Sony add $50+ to the PS3's price for the HDMI cable you have to buy?hiryu3

thats fine cause you know where to get it... this graph comparison is for the uninformed (casuals most likely)...

these are the same people that will buy $100 hdmi cables cause they think it will make the picture sharper than a $10 cable

In these tough economic times this is not the time to force stuff on the consumer they don't need or could take advantage of.

PS3 functionality forced on the consumer

Wifi: Need a wireless router. Consumer with a wired network which make Wifi usless.

Blu-Ray: Need a HDTV very few Sony games takes advantage extra space, I think like 2.

HardDrive: Only needed with the PS3 because of the PS3s slow Blu-Ray drive where you will most likey need to upgrade to a bigger HDD in the future because of the forced game installs.

HDMI: Need to buy the cable in order to take advantage of it.

Xbox live gold is cool and all but a continuing charge will after a while cease to make a console "cheaper". Isn't xbox live about $50 a year? People who have owned a launch console and have had gold the entire time have paid what about 150-200 for live so far? A recurring cost that doesn't "pay" a sum off ceases to be cheaper given a long enough timeline.

A certain car may be cheap to start but if it requires more maintenance than another car at which point does the owner realize it has "costed" more.

This is all assuming the owner of the xbox 360 wants to play online. What I always hear is people buy an xbox cause their friend has one and they want to play online with em so this means they must be paying for gold.

Microsoft is basically targeting those who can only see short term and can't see just a few years ahead. This mind-set is why the econmy went in the **** This is why the 3 big american car companies are almost out of business. People bought cheap cars with $1000 factory cash back and got a good loan then uh oh when gas became more expensive it became more expensive than a car that costed just a little bit more at the start. Not to mention the big 3 aren't as reliable either. Its a perfect comparison to the xbox. Cheaper to start, larger recurring cost i.e. gas, not as reliable, etc.. Its like the same freaking thing in fact the most reliable and cost effective cars are japanese its the same freaking thing just replace microsoft with ford back in the SUV boom and replace sony with toyota.

sh0vet

My God, I don't think I have ever seen so much misinformation in such little space. Regardless of the fact that American auto companies have been losing market share since the 1970s (and thus in trouble before gas prices rose this summer) and the fact that their problem isn't their strategies of "1000 factory cash back" pricing strategies (i really laughed at this one), you have still presented a lame argument. Should we add game prices as recurring costs? How about the PS3's slightly higher power consumption rate? You know, if someone really likes their 360 they have 60$ recurring costs all the time! Maybe PS3 is better, seeing as the attach rate is lower and I as a consumer won't be bothered with having to buy as a many games for the system.

In these tough economic times this is not the time to force stuff on the consumer they don't need or could take advantage of.

PS3 functionality forced on the consumer

Wifi: Need a wireless router. Consumer with a wired network which make Wifi usless.

Blu-Ray: Need a HDTV very few Sony games takes advantage extra space, I think like 2.

HardDrive: Only needed with the PS3 because of the PS3s slow Blu-Ray drive where you will most likey need to upgrade to a bigger HDD in the future because of the forced game installs.

HDMI: Need to buy the cable in order to take advantage of it.

demoralizer

really good points right there... especially the Wifi part

October 19th 2006

Sony is just so original in its arguments. They merely just recycle them much in the same fashion you see on these boards. 200X or 201X. Come on people Sony did this 2 years ago and they didn't make head way then. What genius thought that it would work now 2 years later?

Blackbond

Thanks for providing an example of what I was saying earlier. Same tricks. Same dog.

Ay least the 360 launched with the same dammed controller it uses now, you have to buy a Ds3 if you purchased your ps3 to early if you want rumble on the ps3. Remeber people; "Rumble is last gen" Sony spouts so much BS. thegoldenpoo

which is what i had to do:evil:

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]Ay least the 360 launched with the same dammed controller it uses now, you have to buy a Ds3 if you purchased your ps3 to early if you want rumble on the ps3. Remeber people; "Rumble is last gen" Sony spouts so much BS. ogvampire

which is what i had to do:evil:

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

October 19th 2006

Sony is just so original in its arguments. They merely just recycle them much in the same fashion you see on these boards. 200X or 201X. Come on people Sony did this 2 years ago and they didn't make head way then. What genius thought that it would work now 2 years later?

kryloc

Thanks for providing an example of what I was saying earlier. Same tricks. Same dog.

Unfortunately its as if Sony they are incapable of learning.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]Ay least the 360 launched with the same dammed controller it uses now, you have to buy a Ds3 if you purchased your ps3 to early if you want rumble on the ps3. Remeber people; "Rumble is last gen" Sony spouts so much BS. thegoldenpoo

which is what i had to do:evil:

i dont like this world:(

[QUOTE="kryloc"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

October 19th 2006

Sony is just so original in its arguments. They merely just recycle them much in the same fashion you see on these boards. 200X or 201X. Come on people Sony did this 2 years ago and they didn't make head way then. What genius thought that it would work now 2 years later?

Blackbond

Thanks for providing an example of what I was saying earlier. Same tricks. Same dog.

Unfortunately its as if Sony they are incapable of learning.

Which is why we are now hearing talk of management and division shakeup. Out with the old, in with the new.

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

which is what i had to do:evil:

ogvampire

i dont like this world:(

By early adopter he means anyone buying a console within the first 1.5 years of it's life. I remember when that just referred to launch, or maybe the first 6 months. This generation has brought new meaning to that term.

Your HTML is not well-formed - please slap gamespot.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"] Welcome to the world of being an early adopter :|kryloc

i dont like this world:(

By early adopter he means anyone buying a console within the first 1.5 years of it's life. I remember when that just referred to launch, or maybe the first 6 months. This generation has brought new meaning to that term.

Your HTML is not well-formed - please slap gamespot.

i also find it ridiculous that the fans who are willing to wait in line to get a system when it first comes out are getting the shafted

this is how these companies treat their biggest fans... thanks alot :roll:

sorry if i sound whiney, but it really gets on my nerves

also, i love your sig. lol

Ay least the 360 launched with the same dammed controller it uses now, you have to buy a Ds3 if you purchased your ps3 to early if you want rumble on the ps3. Remeber people; "Rumble is last gen" Sony spouts so much BS. thegoldenpoo

wired connection>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wifi for gaming-Mad_Rhetoric-

In these tough economic times this is not the time to force stuff on the consumer they don't need or could take advantage of.

PS3 functionality forced on the consumer

Wifi: Need a wireless router. Consumer with a wired network which make Wifi usless.

Blu-Ray: Need a HDTV very few Sony games takes advantage extra space, I think like 2.

HardDrive: Only needed with the PS3 because of the PS3s slow Blu-Ray drive where you will most likey need to upgrade to a bigger HDD in the future because of the forced game installs.

HDMI: Need to buy the cable in order to take advantage of it.

[QUOTE="lantus"][QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]none of those addons are essentail for gamingLewisite

Yep, and as I said the best lemmings can do is say "we dont want that stuff":lol:

But shouldn't Sony add $50+ to the PS3's price for the HDMI cable you have to buy?PBSnipes

You can get them for $5.

*yawns* Same tired argument they've said since the PS3's release, and one of the few arguments on this board that automatically constitutes an insta-fail when a poster uses it. I'm not in the least bit surprised that a corporation cannot fathom the consuming masses not giving a damn about "value" and focusing on the actual cost though. Verge_6

Oh man too bad you weren't here last night. There was a Sony rally lol

[QUOTE="kryloc"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

i dont like this world:(

ogvampire

By early adopter he means anyone buying a console within the first 1.5 years of it's life. I remember when that just referred to launch, or maybe the first 6 months. This generation has brought new meaning to that term.

Your HTML is not well-formed - please slap gamespot.

i also find it ridiculous that the fans who are willing to wait in line to get a system when it first comes out are getting the shafted

this is how these companies treat their biggest fans... thanks alot :roll:

sorry if i sound whiney, but it really gets on my nerves

also, i love your sig. lol

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="kryloc"]

By early adopter he means anyone buying a console within the first 1.5 years of it's life. I remember when that just referred to launch, or maybe the first 6 months. This generation has brought new meaning to that term.

Your HTML is not well-formed - please slap gamespot.

SeanBond

i also find it ridiculous that the fans who are willing to wait in line to get a system when it first comes out are getting the shafted

this is how these companies treat their biggest fans... thanks alot :roll:

sorry if i sound whiney, but it really gets on my nerves

also, i love your sig. lol

...and that my HTML is never, in fact, well-formed.

When I clicked this I thought this was the same chart they released back in 07. I'm not sure how ppl still make a deal out of this or find it humorous.Dystopian-X

[QUOTE="kryloc"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

October 19th 2006

Sony is just so original in its arguments. They merely just recycle them much in the same fashion you see on these boards. 200X or 201X. Come on people Sony did this 2 years ago and they didn't make head way then. What genius thought that it would work now 2 years later?

Blackbond

Thanks for providing an example of what I was saying earlier. Same tricks. Same dog.

Unfortunately its as if Sony they are incapable of learning.

Can't teach an old dog new tricks it seems.

I thought Sony had learned a thing or two about marketing when they created the great "Do you want it" ads in 2007 but they keep finding new reasons to prove me wrong.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="kryloc"]

Thanks for providing an example of what I was saying earlier. Same tricks. Same dog.

The_Game21x

Unfortunately its as if Sony they are incapable of learning.

Can't teach an old dog new tricks it seems.

I thought Sony had learned a thing or two about marketing when they created the great "Do you want it" ads in 2007 but they keep finding new reasons to prove me wrong.

What's also funny is how whenever MS makes a good business decision the Mavericks shout "MS IS SOOOO DESPERATE!" yet when Sony spouts nonense it isn't.

Oh no, they gave the consumer options instead of forcing unnecessarily components down their throats!Mehdi1984

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Unfortunately its as if Sony they are incapable of learning.

Blackbond

Can't teach an old dog new tricks it seems.

I thought Sony had learned a thing or two about marketing when they created the great "Do you want it" ads in 2007 but they keep finding new reasons to prove me wrong.

What's also funny is how whenever MS makes a good business decision the Mavericks shout "MS IS SOOOO DESPERATE!" yet when Sony spouts nonense it isn't.

It's the endless cycle of fanboy hypocrisy.

What is good for me is not good for you. What is not good for you is VERY good for me.

And if I get another "Your HTML is not well formed" error, someone's getting strangled.

[QUOTE="Dystopian-X"]When I clicked this I thought this was the same chart they released back in 07. I'm not sure how ppl still make a deal out of this or find it humorous.Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Dystopian-X"]When I clicked this I thought this was the same chart they released back in 07. I'm not sure how ppl still make a deal out of this or find it humorous.Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Dystopian-X"]When I clicked this I thought this was the same chart they released back in 07. I'm not sure how ppl still make a deal out of this or find it humorous.PAL360

[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] it probably is. just fun to see the sales pitch continuing. I'm pretty positive a "circle the wagons and return fire" approach like this pretty much ensures that there won't be a PS3 price drop anytime soon. not at all.Dreams-Visions

not sure but honestly i dont care! Sony need to make a $150/200 price cut to convince me buying a PS3...

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="kryloc"]

By early adopter he means anyone buying a console within the first 1.5 years of it's life. I remember when that just referred to launch, or maybe the first 6 months. This generation has brought new meaning to that term.

Your HTML is not well-formed - please slap gamespot.

SeanBond

i also find it ridiculous that the fans who are willing to wait in line to get a system when it first comes out are getting the shafted

this is how these companies treat their biggest fans... thanks alot :roll:

sorry if i sound whiney, but it really gets on my nerves

also, i love your sig. lol

exactly. all good points

I agree with Sony on this one.

A friend of mine convinced me to get a 360. So I showed up at walmart expecting to just buy a 360. Then he told me, "You need the charger too ($20). and oh yeah get a years subscription to xbox live($50). It doesnt come with wifi so if you need that you gotta buy it ($100)"

I was like what the hell?! It wouldnt be so bad if Microsoft accessories werent so absurdly overpriced.

After I got the RROD 5 months later, I saw the light. I have a ps3 now and am selling my xbox and its overpriced accessories as soon as my XBL runs out.

Sony has it right. Microsoft sells its accessories because they can milk more money out of the consumer. I admit its more profitable, but thats only because people are willing to get ripped off over the course of several months rather than pay more initially.

I just wana know what so "limited" about the wii's Online :?Gh0st_Of_0nyx