Sony: Competitors 'Continue peddling add-ons to keep up with the Jones''

I don't understand why people don't see the value of the PS3. Xbox360 can't hold as much data (HD-DVD), so in the future they are not going to be able to develop games as high quality as the PS3 games. This point has been proven with MGS4 and in the coming February with Killzone 2. So why would you buy a Xbox with a higher failure rate, higher price, and lower quality games. Eventually MS is going to have to come up with a new system that can rival the power of the PS3 games while the PS3 will already have those quality games. Guess what? This means people who bought the Xbox will have to buy another new Xbox system from MS. This already makes them spend way more money than if they bought the PS3 in the first place. PS3 is a 10 year system and has not reached its full potential while the Xbox has already maxed out. Get a clue Xbox fans?pstripl3

A games content has nothing to do with bluray but rather the experience and talent of the developers... Look at GOW for the PS2 for pete sake.. DVD9 are plenty for the devs to work with although I believe next gen will mean a bluray standard for discs. As for MSG4 I never understood the level of graphical power that game held until I actually bought it.. It's FREAKING INCREDIBLE.. But it also require a FREAKING HHD INSTALL FOR ALL 5 CHAPTERS.. You can't brag about something like that... I'm sure if Halo 3 or Gears of War 2 (Which looks just as impressive IMHO *I own both games*) REQUIRED you to install all of the chapters, they'd look crap your pants impressive too.. I honestly believe K2 will fall into the same category in which PS3 gamers will have no more arguments about which is more powerful..

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[QUOTE="pstripl3"]I don't understand why people don't see the value of the PS3. Xbox360 can't hold as much data (HD-DVD), so in the future they are not going to be able to develop games as high quality as the PS3 games. This point has been proven with MGS4 and in the coming February with Killzone 2. So why would you buy a Xbox with a higher failure rate, higher price, and lower quality games. Eventually MS is going to have to come up with a new system that can rival the power of the PS3 games while the PS3 will already have those quality games. Guess what? This means people who bought the Xbox will have to buy another new Xbox system from MS. This already makes them spend way more money than if they bought the PS3 in the first place. PS3 is a 10 year system and has not reached its full potential while the Xbox has already maxed out. Get a clue Xbox fans?pstripl3

Based on?

The power of each system is already so close its negligle.

Do you work for Sony?

First off Killzone 2 is not out.

Secondly across the board MGS4 is actually at lower critical claim then a lot of other titles.

So what are you saying in regards to the quality of MGS4? Of course its high quality but you're acting like its recieved 10's across the board.

[QUOTE="pstripl3"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Based on?

The power of each system is already so close its negligle.

Do you work for Sony?

Blackbond

First off Killzone 2 is not out.

Secondly across the board MGS4 is actually at lower critical claim then a lot of other titles.

So what are you saying in regards to the quality of MGS4? Of course its high quality but you're acting like its recieved 10's across the board.

Blu-Ray is a hadicap when you are forced installs and the added price isn't worth it as very few games take advatage of it. Blu-ray isn't needed or hadly used.VirtuaCast

[QUOTE="VirtuaCast"]Blu-Ray is a hadicap when you are forced installs and the added price isn't worth it as very few games take advatage of it. Blu-ray isn't needed or hadly used.The_Game21x

Do you think forced installs are good thing on console which comes with a small HDD?

Do you know why some games on the PS3 require installs?

Blu-Ray is hardly used for gaming. I already own a Blu-Ray player and don't want one in my console if it's going to force installs and be hardly taken advantage as far as gaming goes.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="VirtuaCast"]Blu-Ray is a hadicap when you are forced installs and the added price isn't worth it as very few games take advatage of it. Blu-ray isn't needed or hadly used.VirtuaCast

Do you think forced installs are good thing on console which comes with a small HDD?

Do you know why some games on the PS3 require installs?

Blu-Ray is hardly used for gaming. I already own a Blu-Ray player and don't want one in my console if it's going to force installs and be hardly taken advantage as for as gaming goes.

1. No.

2. Yes.

3 That's perfectly fine. I wasn't attacking your views on the matter.

[QUOTE="lantus"][QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]none of those addons are essentail for gamingLewisite

Yep, and as I said the best lemmings can do is say "we dont want that stuff":lol:

I think we're all missing the point here.

The PS3 is a pretty good value for what it gives you, if that's what you want. If it isn't what you want, though, those extra accessories are superfluous, and shouldn't factor into a price comparison that is going to be of any use to most people. Then again, misleading PR is nothing new.

What is surprising, and pathetic is that Sony is basically repeating a stunt they tried to pull before the console launched in 2006.

The fact that they're attempting this crap again shows how out of touch they are with the consumer.

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]Several people here own the use of color on gamespot. You're going to have to pay them royalties to keep this thread alive.Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="BumFluff122"]Several people here own the use of color on gamespot. You're going to have to pay them royalties to keep this thread alive.Truth-slayer

[QUOTE="jakarai"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]I can't believe Sony charges every consumer for its Trojan Horse Blu-Ray. How dare they :roll:Blackbond

No one forces you to buy a PS3. But if you want to play Xbox 360 online you HAVE to pay an additional fee. WTF the hidden costs.

And if I buy a PS3 I have to buy Blu-Ray. Teh hidden costs I just wanted a gaming system not a Blu-Ray player too....

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"] I wouldn't say it's a handicap or that it's hardly used per se but I will agree with you that Blu Ray isn't necessary this generation.The_Game21x

Do you think forced installs are good thing on console which comes with a small HDD?

Do you know why some games on the PS3 require installs?

Blu-Ray is hardly used for gaming. I already own a Blu-Ray player and don't want one in my console if it's going to force installs and be hardly taken advantage as for as gaming goes.

1. No.

2. Yes.

3 That's perfectly fine. I wasn't attacking your views on the matter.

Just trying to explain why I feel that in some cases it can be hassle to be constantly reinstalling and uninstalling. I know I could buy a bigger HDD but of course thats not on Sonys chart.

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No one forces you to buy a PS3. But if you want to play Xbox 360 online you HAVE to pay an additional fee. WTF the hidden costs.nitekids2004

And if I buy a PS3 I have to buy Blu-Ray. Teh hidden costs I just wanted a gaming system not a Blu-Ray player too....

No because the PS2 wasn't twice as much as the competition which plays the majority of the same games with neglicgable differences. That and we already knew DVD was the next move as all the JRPG's on PS1 were multidisk games.

Bottom line is that Blu-Ray costs the gamer more money jsut for Sony's format war.

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And if I buy a PS3 I have to buy Blu-Ray. Teh hidden costs I just wanted a gaming system not a Blu-Ray player too....

Blackbond

No because the PS2 wasn't twice as much as the competition which plays the majority of the same games with neglicgable differences. That and we already knew DVD was the next move as all the JRPG's on PS1 were multidisk games.

Bottom line is that Blu-Ray costs the gamer more money jsut for Sony's format war.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Did you also complain in the PS2 era and its DVD playing capabilities?

nitekids2004

No because the PS2 wasn't twice as much as the competition which plays the majority of the same games with neglicgable differences. That and we already knew DVD was the next move as all the JRPG's on PS1 were multidisk games.

Bottom line is that Blu-Ray costs the gamer more money jsut for Sony's format war.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Did you also complain in the PS2 era and its DVD playing capabilities?

nitekids2004

No because the PS2 wasn't twice as much as the competition which plays the majority of the same games with neglicgable differences. That and we already knew DVD was the next move as all the JRPG's on PS1 were multidisk games.

Bottom line is that Blu-Ray costs the gamer more money jsut for Sony's format war.

Obvoiusly not but why should we have to play more for something that isn't even needed? The most technologically superior platform does not use Blu-Ray. Next gen Blu-Ray will probably be standard. Next gen is not this gen.

At best lemmings can counter with they do not need those features.

Kinda hard to argue with that chart tho.

Not really. It could be argued that there is no reason for Blu-ray in a games console, not everyone needs a wireless connection. There is no mention of the 20 gig hard-drive for the Arcade models for only $20. And I not sure, but do all models of the PS3 come with HDMI?

Whatever the case, this argument is hilarious.