Sony Computer Entertainment America's CEO blames society for PS3's problems

I love how everyone here takes the "paraphrased" interview at face value, without no proof, or anything. For all we know, the TC took out vital text that the CEO said and cut it to make it sound like he was an evil man. Kind of like when FOX NEWS edited that Clinton interview a while back by leaving out his entire explenation when he was talking about how at least he tried, but failed to stop Osama before 9/11.reilo

wow, sony now owes EGM $1,200Dragonblade01

Tretton: "Really? If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes I'll give you $1,200. (Then talks about how he can call any retailer and confirm that there are no PS3s on shelves anywhere in NA)."

That... is completely and utterly ridiculous. I want my $1200. How can you even say some preposterous crap like that... this goes right up there with "People need to work more hours to afford a PS3" and the "4D graffix!"

[QUOTE="reilo"]I love how everyone here takes the "paraphrased" interview at face value, without no proof, or anything. For all we know, the TC took out vital text that the CEO said and cut it to make it sound like he was an evil man. Kind of like when FOX NEWS edited that Clinton interview a while back by leaving out his entire explenation when he was talking about how at least he tried, but failed to stop Osama before 9/11.bsin94

what else can you expect from sony? they blame everything on everyone except themselves.brainiac24

WOW, perfectly said

kudos

Lmao at this question...then the following

EGM: Say they've done checking around and PS3s are sitting on store shelves.

Tretton: Really? If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes I'll give you $1,200. (Then talks about how he can call any retailer and confirm that there are no PS3s on shelves anywhere in NA).

EGM: We just called 18 random locations (Best Buy, EB Games) and half of them had PS3s in stock - some as many as 20 units.

Tretton: We've shipped more than 1 million units to North America... (goes on to imply that retailers are probably lying on the phone about their inventory and backtracks and says that if only 9 out of 18 have PS3s then the glass is half full )

Pathetic.

It's sad how arrogant, ignorant, and in some ways unprofessional Sony (and this case specifically) has become (or even more so if you follow the belief they've always acted like this).

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Way to piss on your own mistakes and make them even worse, hats off to you Sony.

Pathetic.

It's sad how arrogant, ignorant, and in some ways unprofessional Sony (and this case specifically) has become (or even more so if you follow the belief they've always acted like this).

:|

Way to piss on your own mistakes and make them even worse, hats off to you Sony.

-RPGamer-

BTW another GS glitch, your lvl 1.

Sony's PR is the worst ever.TrueReligion_

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this deserves a place in the dissapointing timeline

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Pushing a format on it's customer for a rediculous price, and then get angry with them when said customers  don't want it. When $400 gets you a system just as good ,with the option to upgrade it to HD.

Socrates88

Wow...I mean Wow, I'm lost for words. Pushing a format on customers. lol like they did with the CD and DVD? I bought the PS3, so he can't be talking about me "the customer who don't want it". And what if you want that option of HD DVD?  Wouldn't it cost the same for a PS3? Yet, PS3 is a ridiculous price. Now with the upgrade of the HD-DVD I want online. What? I have to pay for online with the 360? Well, it's free with the PS3. Guess who paying more for a system using it's full potential.?

I'm going to say this as politely as I possibly can. At least the Xbox360 DID NOT SHOVE A PLAYER WHICH I DO NOT WANT. Hell, I have no need for an HD-DVD, and I have the choice of buying it or not. While you are "made" to buy it with the machine which costs $200 more, sure the 360 would also be $200 more with the HD-DVD, but at least I have a choice to see who is the winner of the HD DVD's. What happens if you buyed a PS3 which is pointless and dies out in 2-3 years maybe less, who knows. And you are stuck with "hopefully" Sony is going to keep supporting it no matter what (which they probably will), but you will be stuck with some old movies and the new movies going to HD-DVD. But I could be wrong, because you know cow logic is much greater than mine, after all at least I admit to speculation, you cows are certain of the future. Hope that "magic ball" comes in handy, when you will really need it.

ok yea sony is evil company and they lie and point fingers at other poeple. So? they stilling the number 1 console makers.  fact is xbox 2 = xbox. Maybe if MS put a longer lifespan it would be a more reliable;e console. But I seriously believe that lemmings got screwed with xbox and they will with the xbox 2. ff7isnumbaone

And your cow logic is even worse, especially your signature. Please wireless network does not cost $100, and you DO NOT need to buy HD-DVD (optional), and the Xbox Live 12 Month is 68$ (CDN), that is 58$(USD). Your signature fails and so do you. And if we got screwed if Xbox 1, then your logic fails on how xbox 2 = xbox 1...that makes no sense (link me to this fact PLEASE)...The lifespan of any normal console is 4 years (approx.)...of course Sony will "develop for 10 years to come", please if you believe that, then you totally believe in what the PR is saying in EGM, which makes you = "a word I wish I could say"

ok yea sony is evil company and they lie and point fingers at other poeple. So? they stilling the number 1 console makers. fact is xbox 2 = xbox. Maybe if MS put a longer lifespan it would be a more reliable;e console. But I seriously believe that lemmings got screwed with xbox and they will with the xbox 2. ff7isnumbaone

So, who were the 100 Million people who bought the PS2, if not "society"? :| Sony PR is worthless.HeedleGlavin

When he referred to society he's obviously referring to like TIME mag, etc. People that obviously hate sony, Not regular peopl elike you and me

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]So, who were the 100 Million people who bought the PS2, if not "society"? :| Sony PR is worthless.Blinblingthing

When he referred to society he's obviously referring to like TIME mag, etc. People that obviously hate sony, Not regular peopl elike you and me

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]So, who were the 100 Million people who bought the PS2, if not "society"? :| Sony PR is worthless.Tulak_Hord

When he referred to society he's obviously referring to like TIME mag, etc. People that obviously hate sony, Not regular peopl elike you and me

Oh and one more thing, I expect cows to begin saying the EGM is biased and against Sony, and purposely put all the negative statements/comments in their magazine...waiting cows.

i wish i could take this bozo up on that bet. i can run up too the best buy and target down the street and show him 6 ps3 just sitting there. johnusabeis

So, Best Buy and Target in your Area would give a accurate picture os ps3 supply????

Best buy    sold out

Target sold out

[QUOTE="johnusabeis"]i wish i could take this bozo up on that bet. i can run up too the best buy and target down the street and show him 6 ps3 just sitting there. Blinblingthing

So, Best Buy and Target in your Area would give a accurate picture os ps3 supply????

Best buy    sold out

Target sold out

And that means they're sold out everywhere? :?

[QUOTE="johnusabeis"]i wish i could take this bozo up on that bet. i can run up too the best buy and target down the street and show him 6 ps3 just sitting there. Blinblingthing

So, Best Buy and Target in your Area would give a accurate picture os ps3 supply????

Best buy    sold out

Target sold out

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]So, who were the 100 Million people who bought the PS2, if not "society"? :| Sony PR is worthless.Tulak_Hord

When he referred to society he's obviously referring to like TIME mag, etc. People that obviously hate sony, Not regular peopl elike you and me

Society By Wiki

"A society is a grouping of individuals, which is characterized by common interest and may have distinctive culture"

Boy, Sounds to me like Time fits so nicely there

[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]So, who were the 100 Million people who bought the PS2, if not "society"? :| Sony PR is worthless.Blinblingthing

When he referred to society he's obviously referring to like TIME mag, etc. People that obviously hate sony, Not regular peopl elike you and me

Society By Wiki

"A society is a grouping of individuals, which is characterized by common interest and may have distinctive culture"

Boy, Sounds to me like Time fits so nicely there

And funny how you omitted, "A "Society" may refer to a particular people, such as the Nuer, to a nation state, such as Switzerland, or to a broader cultural group, such as Western society. Society can also be explained as an organized group of people associated together for religious, benevolent, cultural, scientific, political, patriotic, or other purposes."

[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]So, who were the 100 Million people who bought the PS2, if not "society"? :| Sony PR is worthless.Blinblingthing

When he referred to society he's obviously referring to like TIME mag, etc. People that obviously hate sony, Not regular peopl elike you and me

Society By Wiki

"A society is a grouping of individuals, which is characterized by common interest and may have distinctive culture"

Boy, Sounds to me like Time fits so nicely there

Well, what about the rest of "Society". Surely he wasn't jsut referring to those people specifically, otherwise, he would've said so, not made a blanket statement like that.

And your cow logic is even worse, especially your signature. Please wireless network does not cost $100, and you DO NOT need to buy HD-DVD (optional), and the Xbox Live 12 Month is 68$ (CDN), that is 58$(USD). Your signature fails and so do you. And if we got screwed if Xbox 1, then your logic fails on how xbox 2 = xbox 1...that makes no sense (link me to this fact PLEASE)...The lifespan of any normal console is 4 years (approx.)...of course Sony will "develop for 10 years to come", please if you believe that, then you totally believe in what the PR is saying in EGM, which makes you = "a word I wish I could say"

Taiko88

Wow Sony should just man up and admit they made a mistake with the PS3. I guarantee you i can find a PS3 with two hours if i drove out tomorrow morning and go to different electronic retailers.TM1

I stand corrected. The TC was correct. I just received the latest issue of EGM and these are indeed the questions and answer. I'll type them out. Question 1: EGM: In all these years of covering this industry, we've only really seen one other system launch that had this much negativity surrounding it: the Sega Saturn. What happened? Jack: The problem we have... it's society in general. We've been the undisputed winner for over a decade now, and people keep waiting for us to slip up, ad we haven't, so people try to create stories that aren't there the reality is, by every measurement--and I would challenge you to come up with some negative ones--the PlayStation 3 was the most successful launch we've ever had. Question 2: EGM: Well, let's talk about that for a second, because, from our unscientific studies, it seemed like about 50 percent of the people in lie were there to make a quick buck on eBay. And now we're seeing a lot more units on store shelves. Jack: Really? EGM: Yeah. Jack: If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1,200 bucks for it. I can get any retail buyer on the phone with you and get them to verify that there's not a single retail location in America where there's a PlayStation 3 on the shelf for sale. They've all been sold in a matter of minutes. [Editor's note: This interview took place in early January 2007] Question 3: EGM: How come you weren't really able to push the UMD format with the PSP? Jack: The mistake we made in UMD as a movie format was assuming the movie studios understood our consumers and their tastes...that they knew what they were doing. They flooded the market with movies--I don't know that it was necessarily movies that appealed to our consumers. I know it wasn't at prices that appealed to our consumers. [I'd ask these questions] as a consumer: If you're charging me $19.99 for a DVD, why are you charging me $29.99 for a UMD? I'll pay 20 bucks for it--I'd certainly pay 15--but I'm not paying 29. And I'm not buying On Golden Pond. What we're doing now is we're going out and trying to educate the studios as to who our consumer is, and what their price tolerances are. We feel that UMD could be a viable format for movies on the PlayStation Portable if it's handled right. ------------------------- So the TC was correct. Jack Tretton really does put the blame on society for PS3's problems.Zhengi

What is SO ironic about that post and questions is that Jack promptly OWNED himself on the UMD and PS3. There he was talking about the UMD movie price structure and how it's priced out of consumer's price point and that Sony is now educating movie studios on how their consumers spend their money. and yet, conversly, he blames the PS3 problems on society and every other factor EXCEPT the price.........

...........Does anyone else smells a RAT?

[QUOTE="TM1"]Wow Sony should just man up and admit they made a mistake with the PS3. I guarantee you i can find a PS3 with two hours if i drove out tomorrow morning and go to different electronic retailers.Taiko88

 What's funny is last generation EGM was so far up Sony's butt they knew what the daily Sony cafeteria lunch specials were. Di  anyone remember the post E3 when EGM spent hours talking about the PSP and forgot to mention the DS?

 For the 100th time, EGM is a bandwagon rag, they love the company that is in 1st and all other competition can never do anything right.....

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="johnusabeis"]i wish i could take this bozo up on that bet. i can run up too the best buy and target down the street and show him 6 ps3 just sitting there. Taiko88

So, Best Buy and Target in your Area would give a accurate picture os ps3 supply????

Best buy    sold out

Target sold out

You know how often I see sold out online???? That doesn't indicate to me they are just sitting idly in stores.

[QUOTE="Taiko88"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="johnusabeis"]i wish i could take this bozo up on that bet. i can run up too the best buy and target down the street and show him 6 ps3 just sitting there. Blinblingthing

So, Best Buy and Target in your Area would give a accurate picture os ps3 supply????

Best buy    sold out

Target sold out

You know how often I see sold out online???? That doesn't indicate to me they are just sitting idly in stores.

Do you think they ship the PS3's to you from the stores themselves or something? :?

[QUOTE="Taiko88"]And your cow logic is even worse, especially your signature. Please wireless network does not cost $100, and you DO NOT need to buy HD-DVD (optional), and the Xbox Live 12 Month is 68$ (CDN), that is 58$(USD). Your signature fails and so do you. And if we got screwed if Xbox 1, then your logic fails on how xbox 2 = xbox 1...that makes no sense (link me to this fact PLEASE)...The lifespan of any normal console is 4 years (approx.)...of course Sony will "develop for 10 years to come", please if you believe that, then you totally believe in what the PR is saying in EGM, which makes you = "a word I wish I could say"ff7isnumbaone

 I guess im a cow because I have ps2. But yea you dont have to get them but I would want to get them buddy. I like to watch movies and I dont wanna buy separate hd dvd/ blueray player. So my sig doesn't fail because one i got those prices off gamestop.com and you failed your responds was whack. And who said there was standard for lifespans. And if you go by those standards you will still be living in the past. I dont have to believe anything some1 from Sony because My PS and Ps2 last very long. Unlike my hardcore lemming homebois I didn't have to rush to buy a next gen console.

Ok let's start, since this looks like it will take a while. You are a cow, because you are agreeing to Sony even though they are wrong and are making ridiculous statements. Secondly, let me repeat this slowly, I have an option to buy the HD-DVD, if I really want it that badly, but since my DVD works just as good, that already comes with the Xbox360, I am fine, and not everybody needs a next-gen, so to speak, HD DVD player. Thirdly, Gamestop, from what I've seen, does not make "the whole gaming market", or simply saying, it doesn't mean that every store is the same and is based of Gamestop prices, and seeing as you are a cow, you will obviously try to go for the higher prices for the Xbox360 since you hate them oh so much.

About teh "standars for lifespans" I believe you stated in your previous post, that Xbox 1 and 2 have a short life span. And what does living in the past have anything to do with this? While Sony keeps milking the PS3, we will be on a more developed and enhanced and superior Xbox 3, while you are still stuck with the PS3, by Sony standards of course. And, of course I could be wrong, since what do I know, "I'm living in he past...". Lastly, I have never heard of anyone going back to their PS1, PS2, once they get a PS3, they sell those. Since the PS3 can play all PS games.

On another note, Xbox 1 came out November 15, 2001, while the PS2 came out October 26, 2000. A one year difference.  And the PS3 came out  November 17, 2006, while the Xbox360 came out November 22, 2005. This time oppositely, a 1 year difference. Don't forget the first Xbox was the first of its kind, and was needed to be over with since a new generation was coming quickly, therefore, Sony fails at saying that the PS3 will be supported for "10 years", because they will probably be selling a new Playstation in 4-5 years, since that is their trend, as for the Xbox 360, I could probably say 3-4 years as well, as I do not have a "crystal ball" I would not know. Enough of my rant. Enjoy.