Sony distribution warehouse explodes, Looters stealing Tvs, Consoles and....wiis

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Yeah, I agree. I'm not British, but I'm kinda familiar with those 'minority' sentiments. Don't get me wrong, sometimes things tend to be very racial indeed (heard some stories from my nephew in France a decade ago), but things seem to change...

There are certain groups that really like to emphasize just how oppressed or just discriminated they actually are, whereas all 'the problems' they currently 'endure' are not racial at all and hurt other people in those neighbourhoods just as much. Instead of trying to make something out of their lives and break out of that vicious cycle they reinforce and strengthen their 'bad' position and are as a result sometimes put under stricter scrutiny.

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To be fair, it's hard to empathize with minorities, if you're not one. It's harder to break out of this cycle you're describing when the very instituion is designed to keep you where you are.

It's hard to succeed at school when the teacher automatically treat you like you're not as intelligent as anyone else, and look for any reason to punish you, hindering your education.

Even with a good education, it's then hard to get a job when employers are far more likley to pick a white person over you, especially in this economical climate where even for white people it's damn near impossible.

When police are literally picking you out of a group of people, just because of your skin colour, it doesnt exactly inspire confidence in your government and peers.

That being said, minorities don't always help themselves, a lot are enforcing these stereotypes with behaviour such as these riots.

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Stay classy Europe!

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If you guys are so much against the riot why are on here instead of helping met 'clense' the streets? why are the so called good guys not going in the street to save businesses and homes instead of watching and talking on forums?

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Stay classy Europe!

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Oh yeah?

Well...AA+

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Uhm... Insurance?Frosal
I get it now.... Sony orchestrated the riot in order for the warehouse to be destoryed so they can collect on the insurance to help pad the piggy bank again since the great PSN outage. All joking aside, sucks to be them. Not a fun year for them.
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#156 dirktu
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[QUOTE="dirktu"]

Yeah, I agree. I'm not British, but I'm kinda familiar with those 'minority' sentiments. Don't get me wrong, sometimes things tend to be very racial indeed (heard some stories from my nephew in France a decade ago), but things seem to change...

There are certain groups that really like to emphasize just how oppressed or just discriminated they actually are, whereas all 'the problems' they currently 'endure' are not racial at all and hurt other people in those neighbourhoods just as much. Instead of trying to make something out of their lives and break out of that vicious cycle they reinforce and strengthen their 'bad' position and are as a result sometimes put under stricter scrutiny.

-Snooze-

To be fair, it's hard to empathize with minorities, if you're not one. It's harder to break out of this cycle you're describing when the very instituion is designed to keep you where you are.

It's hard to succeed at school when the teacher automatically treat you like you're not as intelligent as anyone else, and look for any reason to punish you, hindering your education.

Even with a good education, it's then hard to get a job when employers are far more likley to pick a white person over you, especially in this economical climate where even for white people it's damn near impossible.

When police are literally picking you out of a group of people, just because of your skin colour, it doesnt exactly inspire confidence in your government and peers.

That being said, minorities don't always help themselves, a lot are enforcing these stereotypes with behaviour such as these riots.

I understand where you're coming from and I do empathize, but currently I'm not seeing the racial division and racial minority stuff as much anymore. But then again I'm not British so I can't really analyze the situation in your country that well..

I'm far more seeing a return of economic/class problems. People from the upper class or just people with -very- rich parents seem to get more opportunities as they have more influential contacts, go to better schools, better universities, are into poshy sport clubs which greatly help their job opportunities etc. etc..

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They need to bring the milatary in adding some much needed man power and resources and stop this **** definitely before it get worse. These are just a bunch of opportunistic scumbag criminals looking to blow **** up and score some free stuff by stealing. For those who don't know riots have been happening all over london for 4 days and causing all sorts of destruction burning down bussiness,peoples homes and torching civilian cars heres video showing the aftermath of what happened so far and plenty of video is the sidebar for more info.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZuNLS_lwQY&feature=feedu

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lol. I m obviously joking but the community is not happy but now there is 16000 police roaming London so you can go back to arguing how many pixels gears has instead of this.

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Everyone seems to be linking it all entirely to the shooting of someone by a police man, they are not... They are simply opportunistic and saw a chance to steal and cause misery, maybe the police should shoot some more.
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Everyone seems to be linking it all entirely to the shooting of someone by a police man, they are not... They are simply opportunistic and saw a chance to steal and cause misery, maybe the police should shoot some more.JohnF111
That's what started the riots the blacks had tension against police. It started as a protest with the family but then people joined to loot so I guess you right opportunistic to use someone's death to rob.
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Everyone seems to be linking it all entirely to the shooting of someone by a police man, they are not... They are simply opportunistic and saw a chance to steal and cause misery, maybe the police should shoot some more.JohnF111

That would just give the Rioters reason to shoot back ...

The only positive thing I can draw from this is that atleast casulties have been kept to a bare minimum. Police shooting more people won't help the situation.

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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Everyone seems to be linking it all entirely to the shooting of someone by a police man, they are not... They are simply opportunistic and saw a chance to steal and cause misery, maybe the police should shoot some more.viper-kid
That's what started the riots the blacks had tension against police. It started as a protest with the family but then people joined to loot so I guess you right opportunistic to use someone's death to rob.

will you quit with the black line, it's not just about black opression which quite frankly i don't believe exists in this country, if there is any oppression it's oppression of the poor, we have all been affected by the latest cuts and the police have shot just as many white people as black and whites suffer just as much abuse at the hands of the police as ethnic minoritys,ian tomlinson wasn't black and i myself have been at the recieving end of verbal abuse from the police because my dog ran out of the house, i was also dragged from my home and suffered several injurys at the hands of the 6 police officers just for having a verbal argument with my wife, the irony was everything had calmed down when they arrived and even my wife protested there behaviour.
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="JohnF111"]Everyone seems to be linking it all entirely to the shooting of someone by a police man, they are not... They are simply opportunistic and saw a chance to steal and cause misery, maybe the police should shoot some more.delta3074
That's what started the riots the blacks had tension against police. It started as a protest with the family but then people joined to loot so I guess you right opportunistic to use someone's death to rob.

will you quit with the black line, it's not just about black opression which quite frankly i don't believe exists in this country, if there is any oppression it's oppression of the poor, we have all been affected by the latest cuts and the police have shot just as many white people as black and whites suffer just as much abuse at the hands of the police as ethnic minoritys,ian tomlinson wasn't black and i myself have been at the recieving end of verbal abuse from the police because my dog ran out of the house, i was also dragged from my home and suffered several injurys at the hands of the 6 police officers just for having a verbal argument with my wife, the irony was everything had calmed down when they arrived and even my wife protested there behaviour.

Yes but the black community has spoken... Believe me a recession hurts blacks more than whites, especially unemployment and even the whites feel the same about the policing. Who polices the police? the community polices the police.
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will you quit with the black line, it's not just about black opression which quite frankly i don't believe exists in this country.delta3074

Well quite frankly you are wrong. Minorities in this country have always, been opressed in one way or another. How you can't see that is beyond me. It was only 50 years ago kids would be let out of school to watch a lynching ... Racism, doesn't change much in 50 years, it just goes underground, and isn't as obvious.

Doesthis have anything to do with the current situation? No, it doesn't. It's just a bunch of morons taking advantage of a bad situation, morons of all kinds.

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It's almost enough to make me say "Thank God I moved to Canada", but then we had Vancouver :?

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[QUOTE="delta3074"]will you quit with the black line, it's not just about black opression which quite frankly i don't believe exists in this country.-Snooze-

Well quite frankly you are wrong. Minorities in this country have always, been opressed in one way or another. How you can't see that is beyond me. It was only 50 years ago kids would be let out of school to watch a lynching ... Racism, doesn't change much in 50 years, it just goes underground, and isn't as obvious.

Doesthis have anything to do with the current situation? No, it doesn't. It's just a bunch of morons taking advantage of a bad situation, morons of all kinds.

i have a lot of black friends who have better jobs than i do, it may be that way in your manor but it ain't like that here, black and whites live in relative harmony here, even when i was in the army i never saw any black soldiers being racially abused, and a lot of them held high ranks too, this is the most racially tolerent country in the world in my view, i personally have never seen anybody oppressed because of there colour or race where i live, also, my mum says you are talking rubbish, she said there where never any lynchings here 50 years ago an she was in school then, do you even live in the UK? you know this was the first country to abolish slavery
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]will you quit with the black line, it's not just about black opression which quite frankly i don't believe exists in this country.delta3074

Well quite frankly you are wrong. Minorities in this country have always, been opressed in one way or another. How you can't see that is beyond me. It was only 50 years ago kids would be let out of school to watch a lynching ... Racism, doesn't change much in 50 years, it just goes underground, and isn't as obvious.

Doesthis have anything to do with the current situation? No, it doesn't. It's just a bunch of morons taking advantage of a bad situation, morons of all kinds.

i have a lot of black friends who have better jobs than i do, it may be that way in your manor but it ain't like that here, black and whites live in relative harmony here, even when i was in the army i never saw any black soldiers being racially abused, and a lot of them held high ranks too, this is the most racially tolerent country in the world in my view, i personally have never seen anybody oppressed because of there colour or race where i live, also, my mum says you are talking rubbish, she said there where never any lynchings here 50 years ago an she was in school then, do you even live in the UK? you know this was the first country to abolish slavery

Better jobs than you could be they are hard workers. For a black person to get anywhere in life they have to work much harder than whites that's reality. There is a reason why blacks would rather do drug and rob for money because the alternative is much worse. The whites are the only ones who think there is equal opportunity because they are happy with current system and are not effected, but blacks are affected. Abolished slavery but what where was the compensation for all those years where blacks were forced to help England's economy for free? No prospects at all.

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Wow it was dark and fiery. That picture describes the year for Sony so far.

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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]will you quit with the black line, it's not just about black opression which quite frankly i don't believe exists in this country.delta3074

Well quite frankly you are wrong. Minorities in this country have always, been opressed in one way or another. How you can't see that is beyond me. It was only 50 years ago kids would be let out of school to watch a lynching ... Racism, doesn't change much in 50 years, it just goes underground, and isn't as obvious.

Doesthis have anything to do with the current situation? No, it doesn't. It's just a bunch of morons taking advantage of a bad situation, morons of all kinds.

i have a lot of black friends who have better jobs than i do, it may be that way in your manor but it ain't like that here, black and whites live in relative harmony here, even when i was in the army i never saw any black soldiers being racially abused, and a lot of them held high ranks too, this is the most racially tolerent country in the world in my view, i personally have never seen anybody oppressed because of there colour or race where i live, also, my mum says you are talking rubbish, she said there where never any lynchings here 50 years ago an she was in school then, do you even live in the UK? you know this was the first country to abolish slavery

Lynching was a US thing actually... and surely racial problems are not dead yet. But if it's really as horrible as some may say than we should all just stand up and do something about it...

I know for a fact that in my country women and 'minorities' are often even positively discriminated. And that's something I do not like that much either...

And I know that a lot of my Muslim acquaintances really hate the attitude of some of their neighbours and friends who are just whining and not doing anything to improve their situation. Okay..they're not black..but they seem to have at least some reason to complain with the recent anti-Muslim sentiments... and they choose not to as they see the opportunities and are thankful for them. On top of that say to me that those people wouldn't succeed in their country of origin either..because it's not a racial issue...but a character or talent issue.

Like I said in my other posts and you seem to confirm for your country as well; it's starting to become more and more an economic/class problem...

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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Well quite frankly you are wrong. Minorities in this country have always, been opressed in one way or another. How you can't see that is beyond me. It was only 50 years ago kids would be let out of school to watch a lynching ... Racism, doesn't change much in 50 years, it just goes underground, and isn't as obvious.

Doesthis have anything to do with the current situation? No, it doesn't. It's just a bunch of morons taking advantage of a bad situation, morons of all kinds.

viper-kid

i have a lot of black friends who have better jobs than i do, it may be that way in your manor but it ain't like that here, black and whites live in relative harmony here, even when i was in the army i never saw any black soldiers being racially abused, and a lot of them held high ranks too, this is the most racially tolerent country in the world in my view, i personally have never seen anybody oppressed because of there colour or race where i live, also, my mum says you are talking rubbish, she said there where never any lynchings here 50 years ago an she was in school then, do you even live in the UK? you know this was the first country to abolish slavery

Better jobs than you could be they are hard workers. For a black person to get anywhere in life they have to work much harder than whites that's reality. There is a reason why blacks would rather do drug and rob for money because the alternative is much worse. The whites are the only ones who think there is equal opportunity because they are happy with current system and are not effected, but blacks are affected. Abolished slavery but what where was the compensation for all those years where blacks were forced to help England's economy for free? No prospects at all.

that's not entirely true, a black soldier only has to meet the same training requirements as a white soldier to gain rank, and my mate wayne wynters went straight from school into a managerial position, i t may be the way you say it is in london but around here it just ain't like that mate, we ain't racist at all in this neck o the woods dude, i have a lot of black mates who are proud to be english and would disagree with a lot of what you are saying, we have high ranking black police officers, black managers, black solicitors, maybe you should come to northampton and see how it is here, you would be most welcome my friend, hell we don't even have islamic extremism here to any degree, we have our fair share of young yobs but believe me they are mainly white kids, this is a town of equality.
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Well quite frankly you are wrong. Minorities in this country have always, been opressed in one way or another. How you can't see that is beyond me. It was only 50 years ago kids would be let out of school to watch a lynching ... Racism, doesn't change much in 50 years, it just goes underground, and isn't as obvious.

Doesthis have anything to do with the current situation? No, it doesn't. It's just a bunch of morons taking advantage of a bad situation, morons of all kinds.

viper-kid

i have a lot of black friends who have better jobs than i do, it may be that way in your manor but it ain't like that here, black and whites live in relative harmony here, even when i was in the army i never saw any black soldiers being racially abused, and a lot of them held high ranks too, this is the most racially tolerent country in the world in my view, i personally have never seen anybody oppressed because of there colour or race where i live, also, my mum says you are talking rubbish, she said there where never any lynchings here 50 years ago an she was in school then, do you even live in the UK? you know this was the first country to abolish slavery

Better jobs than you could be they are hard workers. For a black person to get anywhere in life they have to work much harder than whites that's reality. There is a reason why blacks would rather do drug and rob for money because the alternative is much worse. The whites are the only ones who think there is equal opportunity because they are happy with current system and are not effected, but blacks are affected. Abolished slavery but what where was the compensation for all those years where blacks were forced to help England's economy for free? No prospects at all.

what you are primarily arguing is the class divide :-/ i've worked extremely hard to get to where i am and plan on do what i do, theres actually very strict code's employers have to abide by here aswell i might add.

I've been working my balls off to get in the RAF for a year and its just about to pay off, to say that white folks have to work less is short sighted, those days of slavery have been abolished for 200 years nearly now aswell so those sentiments are long gone, my town is extremely multicultural theres people from all over the world at my work i currently work beside a guy from Tunisia and he's one of the best colleagues i've worked beside and he said these simple words "to get anywhere you've got to work hard and be focused you cant just sit around and say the man is bad".

The simple words of you make your own fate come to mind here aswell, theres loads of organisations out there helping the inner cities one was on BBC and they proved they were making improvements on young peoples outlooks on life and pointing them in the right direction.

I've worked my balls off to get a part time job, my qualifications, and my band aswell as aiming to be in the RAF which is physically and mentally challenging.

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#172 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Well quite frankly you are wrong. Minorities in this country have always, been opressed in one way or another. How you can't see that is beyond me. It was only 50 years ago kids would be let out of school to watch a lynching ... Racism, doesn't change much in 50 years, it just goes underground, and isn't as obvious.

Doesthis have anything to do with the current situation? No, it doesn't. It's just a bunch of morons taking advantage of a bad situation, morons of all kinds.

dirktu

i have a lot of black friends who have better jobs than i do, it may be that way in your manor but it ain't like that here, black and whites live in relative harmony here, even when i was in the army i never saw any black soldiers being racially abused, and a lot of them held high ranks too, this is the most racially tolerent country in the world in my view, i personally have never seen anybody oppressed because of there colour or race where i live, also, my mum says you are talking rubbish, she said there where never any lynchings here 50 years ago an she was in school then, do you even live in the UK? you know this was the first country to abolish slavery

Lynching was a US thing actually... and surely racial problems are not dead yet. But if it's really as horrible as some may say than we should all just stand up and do something about it...

I know for a fact that in my country women and 'minorities' are often even positively discriminated. And that's something I do not like that much either...

And I know that a lot of my Muslim acquaintances really hate the attitude of some of their neighbours and friends who are just whining and not doing anything to improve their situation. Okay..they're not black..but they seem to have at least some reason to complain with the recent anti-Muslim sentiments... and they choose not to as they see the opportunities and are thankful for them. On top of that say to me that those people wouldn't succeed in their country of origin either..because it's not a racial issue...but a character or talent issue.

Like I said in my other posts and you seem to confirm for your country as well; it's starting to become more and more an economic/class problem...

i completely agree,it's definitly more of a class issue than a rcial one, and i know anti muslim sentiment exists and it's born out of ignorance, we have an awesome muslim community here who have dennounced any form of extremism and we need to set the two apart, i am downright appalled at the fact that normal god fearing muslims are being tarred with the same brush as extremists, especially as the extremist message in no way reflects the true nature of islam
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]i have a lot of black friends who have better jobs than i do, it may be that way in your manor but it ain't like that here, black and whites live in relative harmony here, even when i was in the army i never saw any black soldiers being racially abused, and a lot of them held high ranks too, this is the most racially tolerent country in the world in my view, i personally have never seen anybody oppressed because of there colour or race where i live, also, my mum says you are talking rubbish, she said there where never any lynchings here 50 years ago an she was in school then, do you even live in the UK? you know this was the first country to abolish slaveryrazgriz_101

Better jobs than you could be they are hard workers. For a black person to get anywhere in life they have to work much harder than whites that's reality. There is a reason why blacks would rather do drug and rob for money because the alternative is much worse. The whites are the only ones who think there is equal opportunity because they are happy with current system and are not effected, but blacks are affected. Abolished slavery but what where was the compensation for all those years where blacks were forced to help England's economy for free? No prospects at all.

that's not entirely true, a black soldier only has to meet the same training requirements as a white soldier to gain rank, and my mate wayne wynters went straight from school into a managerial position, i t may be the way you say it is in london but around here it just ain't like that mate, we ain't racist at all in this neck o the woods dude, i have a lot of black mates who are proud to be english and would disagree with a lot of what you are saying, we have high ranking black police officers, black managers, black solicitors, maybe you should come to northampton and see how it is here, you would be most welcome my friend, hell we don't even have islamic extremism here to any degree, we have our fair share of young yobs but believe me they are mainly white kids, this is a town of equality.

Fair enough
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]i have a lot of black friends who have better jobs than i do, it may be that way in your manor but it ain't like that here, black and whites live in relative harmony here, even when i was in the army i never saw any black soldiers being racially abused, and a lot of them held high ranks too, this is the most racially tolerent country in the world in my view, i personally have never seen anybody oppressed because of there colour or race where i live, also, my mum says you are talking rubbish, she said there where never any lynchings here 50 years ago an she was in school then, do you even live in the UK? you know this was the first country to abolish slaveryrazgriz_101

Better jobs than you could be they are hard workers. For a black person to get anywhere in life they have to work much harder than whites that's reality. There is a reason why blacks would rather do drug and rob for money because the alternative is much worse. The whites are the only ones who think there is equal opportunity because they are happy with current system and are not effected, but blacks are affected. Abolished slavery but what where was the compensation for all those years where blacks were forced to help England's economy for free? No prospects at all.

what you are primarily arguing is the class divide :-/ i've worked extremely hard to get to where i am and plan on do what i do, theres actually very strict code's employers have to abide by here aswell i might add.

I've been working my balls off to get in the RAF for a year and its just about to pay off, to say that white folks have to work less is short sighted, those days of slavery have been abolished for 200 years nearly now aswell so those sentiments are long gone, my town is extremely multicultural theres people from all over the world at my work i currently work beside a guy from Tunisia and he's one of the best colleagues i've worked beside and he said these simple words "to get anywhere you've got to work hard and be focused you cant just sit around and say the man is bad".

The simple words of you make your own fate come to mind here aswell, theres loads of organisations out there helping the inner cities one was on BBC and they proved they were making improvements on young peoples outlooks on life and pointing them in the right direction.

I've worked my balls off to get a part time job, my qualifications, and my band aswell as aiming to be in the RAF which is physically and mentally challenging.

Can't be bothered with this topic any more I want to go back to the normal graphic king thread. I will end it with 'a white man will never understand'
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]will you quit with the black line, it's not just about black opression which quite frankly i don't believe exists in this country.delta3074

Well quite frankly you are wrong. Minorities in this country have always, been opressed in one way or another. How you can't see that is beyond me. It was only 50 years ago kids would be let out of school to watch a lynching ... Racism, doesn't change much in 50 years, it just goes underground, and isn't as obvious.

Doesthis have anything to do with the current situation? No, it doesn't. It's just a bunch of morons taking advantage of a bad situation, morons of all kinds.

i have a lot of black friends who have better jobs than i do, it may be that way in your manor but it ain't like that here, black and whites live in relative harmony here, even when i was in the army i never saw any black soldiers being racially abused, and a lot of them held high ranks too, this is the most racially tolerent country in the world in my view, i personally have never seen anybody oppressed because of there colour or race where i live, also, my mum says you are talking rubbish, she said there where never any lynchings here 50 years ago an she was in school then, do you even live in the UK? you know this was the first country to abolish slavery

Of course I live in the UK ... And regardless of what you're mother says, History says differently, do some research, and i'm not talking US either, im talking about the UK.

I'm not talking about harmony, 'cause im sure everyone has black, white, asian friends, im talking about how minorities have to work twice as hard to achieve as much as a white majority would have to. As i've said before, without being through it, you wouldnt understant it. Perhaps you should ask your black friends how they honestly feel about it?

This has nothing to do with the riots however, and classicism is also a prominent issue, which effects far more people, regardless of race or religion.

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for all you un-informed people who think this is a race thing then you don't know what your talking about, its a social class thing, this isn't black, or white, or whatever people rioting or looting .... this is people who can't get jobs, people who get single out by the cops because they don't live in the suburbs but in the ghetto, people who know what they doing are wrong but they are saying **** it, no one cares about me so i can do what i want. Think about it, everyone likes making everything into a racial issue, this has nothing to do with that, heck theres a video of a WHITE guy jacking a kid who's bloody and injured, he just goes in his backpack and jacks his stuff and walks away while the kid is dazed and confused. this has absolutely nothing to do with race, I know how it use to feel to be those people, its easy for you guys who are well off to sit behind your computer and be judgemental of whats going on but yet you haven't been in these peoples shoes. Now i'm not saying what their doing is right, its really wrong and i wish i was down there to kick some **** and help out store owners. Anybody remember VANCOUVER? those were majority white people fliipping over cars, destroying stuff but i'm sure if it was black people everybody would be so racist toward the situation, its sad.

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tbh i wouldent cry if they torched a bank :P
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Well quite frankly you are wrong. Minorities in this country have always, been opressed in one way or another. How you can't see that is beyond me. It was only 50 years ago kids would be let out of school to watch a lynching ... Racism, doesn't change much in 50 years, it just goes underground, and isn't as obvious.

Doesthis have anything to do with the current situation? No, it doesn't. It's just a bunch of morons taking advantage of a bad situation, morons of all kinds.

-Snooze-

i have a lot of black friends who have better jobs than i do, it may be that way in your manor but it ain't like that here, black and whites live in relative harmony here, even when i was in the army i never saw any black soldiers being racially abused, and a lot of them held high ranks too, this is the most racially tolerent country in the world in my view, i personally have never seen anybody oppressed because of there colour or race where i live, also, my mum says you are talking rubbish, she said there where never any lynchings here 50 years ago an she was in school then, do you even live in the UK? you know this was the first country to abolish slavery

Of course I live in the UK ... And regardless of what you're mother says, History says differently, do some research, and i'm not talking US either, im talking about the UK.

I'm not talking about harmony, 'cause im sure everyone has black, white, asian friends, im talking about how minorities have to work twice as hard to achieve as much as a white majority would have to. As i've said before, without being through it, you wouldnt understant it. Perhaps you should ask your black friends how they honestly feel about it?

This has nothing to do with the riots however, and classicism is also a prominent issue, which effects far more people, regardless of race or religion.

A white man will never understand. Blacks sweated for this country for free and they repay them by slabbing them in a estate to kill each other. Why do applications or forms state 'equality' then go to ask if you are white, black or asian meaning your race matters in their decisions
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]i have a lot of black friends who have better jobs than i do, it may be that way in your manor but it ain't like that here, black and whites live in relative harmony here, even when i was in the army i never saw any black soldiers being racially abused, and a lot of them held high ranks too, this is the most racially tolerent country in the world in my view, i personally have never seen anybody oppressed because of there colour or race where i live, also, my mum says you are talking rubbish, she said there where never any lynchings here 50 years ago an she was in school then, do you even live in the UK? you know this was the first country to abolish slaveryviper-kid

Of course I live in the UK ... And regardless of what you're mother says, History says differently, do some research, and i'm not talking US either, im talking about the UK.

I'm not talking about harmony, 'cause im sure everyone has black, white, asian friends, im talking about how minorities have to work twice as hard to achieve as much as a white majority would have to. As i've said before, without being through it, you wouldnt understant it. Perhaps you should ask your black friends how they honestly feel about it?

This has nothing to do with the riots however, and classicism is also a prominent issue, which effects far more people, regardless of race or religion.

A white man will never understand. Blacks sweated for this country for free and they repay them by slabbing them in a estate to kill each other. Why do applications or forms state 'equality' then go to ask if you are white, black or asian meaning your race matters in their decisions

I'm actually quite sure a lot of white people understand ... Regardless of race, everyone in Britain has it hard know, unless they were born with a gold spoon in their mouths.

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for all you un-informed people who think this is a race thing then you don't know what your talking about, its a social class thing, this isn't black, or white, or whatever people rioting or looting .... this is people who can't get jobs, people who get single out by the cops because they don't live in the suburbs but in the ghetto, people who know what they doing are wrong but they are saying **** it, no one cares about me so i can do what i want. Think about it, everyone likes making everything into a racial issue, this has nothing to do with that, heck theres a video of a WHITE guy jacking a kid who's bloody and injured, he just goes in his backpack and jacks his stuff and walks away while the kid is dazed and confused. this has absolutely nothing to do with race, I know how it use to feel to be those people, its easy for you guys who are well off to sit behind your computer and be judgemental of whats going on but yet you haven't been in these peoples shoes. Now i'm not saying what their doing is right, its really wrong and i wish i was down there to kick some **** and help out store owners. Anybody remember VANCOUVER? those were majority white people fliipping over cars, destroying stuff but i'm sure if it was black people everybody would be so racist toward the situation, its sad.

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And yet the whites are screaming deport the immigrants even though it was a white jacking the kid the black guy actually helped him. Its the whites who started the race thing.
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Well quite frankly you are wrong. Minorities in this country have always, been opressed in one way or another. How you can't see that is beyond me. It was only 50 years ago kids would be let out of school to watch a lynching ... Racism, doesn't change much in 50 years, it just goes underground, and isn't as obvious.

Doesthis have anything to do with the current situation? No, it doesn't. It's just a bunch of morons taking advantage of a bad situation, morons of all kinds.

-Snooze-

i have a lot of black friends who have better jobs than i do, it may be that way in your manor but it ain't like that here, black and whites live in relative harmony here, even when i was in the army i never saw any black soldiers being racially abused, and a lot of them held high ranks too, this is the most racially tolerent country in the world in my view, i personally have never seen anybody oppressed because of there colour or race where i live, also, my mum says you are talking rubbish, she said there where never any lynchings here 50 years ago an she was in school then, do you even live in the UK? you know this was the first country to abolish slavery

Of course I live in the UK ... And regardless of what you're mother says, History says differently, do some research, and i'm not talking US either, im talking about the UK.

I'm not talking about harmony, 'cause im sure everyone has black, white, asian friends, im talking about how minorities have to work twice as hard to achieve as much as a white majority would have to. As i've said before, without being through it, you wouldnt understant it. Perhaps you should ask your black friends how they honestly feel about it?

This has nothing to do with the riots however, and classicism is also a prominent issue, which effects far more people, regardless of race or religion.

like i said in my later post, my mate wayne wynters walked straight into a managerial position, we have high ranking black police officers here, councillors, solicitors, and i will have you know that all of my black friends are proud to be english, a lot of them a have done military service, i don't see black people having to work twice as hard to get anywhere here and i never saw that in the army, which, i might had had it's fair share of black officers and NCO's, and my mum should know what used to happen here 50 years ago, she lived through it and my dad's best mates where all black and he dated black women, like i said, i don't know where you live but here in my manor what you talk about does not exist, the majority of criminals and yobs here are white, have you even seen it yourself or did you just read it, even if what you say did happen here in the UK 50 years ago, which i doubt, it hardly reflects society the way it is today, it is against the law in this country to discriminate against people on the grounds of Race, colour, religion and sex so if you do see it i suggest you report it to the appropriate authoritys, there are plenty of black people in the justice system.
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

for all you un-informed people who think this is a race thing then you don't know what your talking about, its a social class thing, this isn't black, or white, or whatever people rioting or looting .... this is people who can't get jobs, people who get single out by the cops because they don't live in the suburbs but in the ghetto, people who know what they doing are wrong but they are saying **** it, no one cares about me so i can do what i want. Think about it, everyone likes making everything into a racial issue, this has nothing to do with that, heck theres a video of a WHITE guy jacking a kid who's bloody and injured, he just goes in his backpack and jacks his stuff and walks away while the kid is dazed and confused. this has absolutely nothing to do with race, I know how it use to feel to be those people, its easy for you guys who are well off to sit behind your computer and be judgemental of whats going on but yet you haven't been in these peoples shoes. Now i'm not saying what their doing is right, its really wrong and i wish i was down there to kick some **** and help out store owners. Anybody remember VANCOUVER? those were majority white people fliipping over cars, destroying stuff but i'm sure if it was black people everybody would be so racist toward the situation, its sad.

viper-kid
And yet the whites are screaming deport the immigrants even though it was a white jacking the kid the black guy actually helped him. Its the whites who started the race thing.

the black guy went through his rucksack as well dude, and the immigrants the indiginous people of this country are screaming to deport are white europeans like the polish or romanians as well as black people from africa.
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

for all you un-informed people who think this is a race thing then you don't know what your talking about, its a social class thing, this isn't black, or white, or whatever people rioting or looting .... this is people who can't get jobs, people who get single out by the cops because they don't live in the suburbs but in the ghetto, people who know what they doing are wrong but they are saying **** it, no one cares about me so i can do what i want. Think about it, everyone likes making everything into a racial issue, this has nothing to do with that, heck theres a video of a WHITE guy jacking a kid who's bloody and injured, he just goes in his backpack and jacks his stuff and walks away while the kid is dazed and confused. this has absolutely nothing to do with race, I know how it use to feel to be those people, its easy for you guys who are well off to sit behind your computer and be judgemental of whats going on but yet you haven't been in these peoples shoes. Now i'm not saying what their doing is right, its really wrong and i wish i was down there to kick some **** and help out store owners. Anybody remember VANCOUVER? those were majority white people fliipping over cars, destroying stuff but i'm sure if it was black people everybody would be so racist toward the situation, its sad.

viper-kid
And yet the whites are screaming deport the immigrants even though it was a white jacking the kid the black guy actually helped him. Its the whites who started the race thing.

i don't wanna turn this into blacks started it or whites started it, you wanna know who started the riots? PEOPLE started it, i'm just tired of these racist comments i been reading "not here but other places" in regards to the rioting. Like i said VANCOUVER was a major riot and yet all people didn't single out those rioters because of their skin color, but yet if it was majority black people doing the VANCOUVER riot then i swear peoples bigotry would come out full circle, when other races do something then people talk about everything except their race, when black people do something then their skin color is the first thing to be notice and the bigotry comes out. Just something i notice
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#184 delta3074
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Of course I live in the UK ... And regardless of what you're mother says, History says differently, do some research, and i'm not talking US either, im talking about the UK.

I'm not talking about harmony, 'cause im sure everyone has black, white, asian friends, im talking about how minorities have to work twice as hard to achieve as much as a white majority would have to. As i've said before, without being through it, you wouldnt understant it. Perhaps you should ask your black friends how they honestly feel about it?

This has nothing to do with the riots however, and classicism is also a prominent issue, which effects far more people, regardless of race or religion.

-Snooze-

A white man will never understand. Blacks sweated for this country for free and they repay them by slabbing them in a estate to kill each other. Why do applications or forms state 'equality' then go to ask if you are white, black or asian meaning your race matters in their decisions

I'm actually quite sure a lot of white people understand ... Regardless of race, everyone in Britain has it hard know, unless they were born with a gold spoon in their mouths.

i wasn't born with a gold spoon in my mouth, i was bought up on the eastern district northampton, one of the most deprived areas in the country, my dad was a bus driver, i worked hard at school and i joined the army and served my country and since have worked in one factory after another, i work hard to support my wife and kids and barely make ends meet myself, black, white, yellow, blue, doesn't matter we are all in the same boat, you have no idea what you are talking about.
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]i have a lot of black friends who have better jobs than i do, it may be that way in your manor but it ain't like that here, black and whites live in relative harmony here, even when i was in the army i never saw any black soldiers being racially abused, and a lot of them held high ranks too, this is the most racially tolerent country in the world in my view, i personally have never seen anybody oppressed because of there colour or race where i live, also, my mum says you are talking rubbish, she said there where never any lynchings here 50 years ago an she was in school then, do you even live in the UK? you know this was the first country to abolish slaverydelta3074

Of course I live in the UK ... And regardless of what you're mother says, History says differently, do some research, and i'm not talking US either, im talking about the UK.

I'm not talking about harmony, 'cause im sure everyone has black, white, asian friends, im talking about how minorities have to work twice as hard to achieve as much as a white majority would have to. As i've said before, without being through it, you wouldnt understant it. Perhaps you should ask your black friends how they honestly feel about it?

This has nothing to do with the riots however, and classicism is also a prominent issue, which effects far more people, regardless of race or religion.

like i said in my later post, my mate wayne wynters walked straight into a managerial position, we have high ranking black police officers here, councillors, solicitors, and i will have you know that all of my black friends are proud to be english, a lot of them a have done military service, i don't see black people having to work twice as hard to get anywhere here and i never saw that in the army, which, i might had had it's fair share of black officers and NCO's, and my mum should know what used to happen here 50 years ago, she lived through it and my dad's best mates where all black and he dated black women, like i said, i don't know where you live but here in my manor what you talk about does not exist, the majority of criminals and yobs here are white, have you even seen it yourself or did you just read it, even if what you say did happen here in the UK 50 years ago, which i doubt, it hardly reflects society the way it is today, it is against the law in this country to discriminate against people on the grounds of Race, colour, religion and sex so if you do see it i suggest you report it to the appropriate authoritys, there are plenty of black people in the justice system.

Facts are facts, no disrespect to your mother, but she is wrong ... Undisputably.

I know the law, it's against the law to discriminate, and yet the BNP were allowed for so long ... It's also against the law to riot, set houses alight etc, and yet ... seems to be happening.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Britain is a racist place, its one of the more tolerent countries (perhaps too tolerent) but you, trying to honestly tell me that it's not harder, even if marginally harder, for minorities to succeed in the UK, then the white majority then, not only are you statistically wrong, but you're blind to the truth.

There's successfull black people everywhere in the UK, no one is claiming they cant be huge successes, because they can. Ask anyone of those successful black people if they felt they had to try harder then their white peers to get to where they are, and the majority will agree.

It's unfair, and ignorant for you to attempt to tell me how minorities feel in Britain. You are not a minority, thus you have no idea. It's not about wether they're proud to be british or not, im proud to be british, but claiming that racism doesnt exist in the UK, is truly ridiculous. Perhaps you should listen to the song in my link, it seems relevent now more then ever.

One again this is COMPLETELY besides, the point. This is about the riots, which have nothing to do with race, or religion.

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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] A white man will never understand. Blacks sweated for this country for free and they repay them by slabbing them in a estate to kill each other. Why do applications or forms state 'equality' then go to ask if you are white, black or asian meaning your race matters in their decisionsdelta3074

I'm actually quite sure a lot of white people understand ... Regardless of race, everyone in Britain has it hard know, unless they were born with a gold spoon in their mouths.

i wasn't born with a gold spoon in my mouth, i was bought up on the eastern district northampton, one of the most deprived areas in the country, my dad was a bus driver, i worked hard at school and i joined the army and served my country and since have worked in one factory after another, i work hard to support my wife and kids and barely make ends meet myself, black, white, yellow, blue, doesn't matter we are all in the same boat, you have no idea what you are talking about.

I never once claimed you were ... perhaps it is you who has no idea what you're talking about?

I clearly said that in this economical climate, life is hard for EVERYONE, regardless of race, unless they were lucky enough to be born into wealth

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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]i have a lot of black friends who have better jobs than i do, it may be that way in your manor but it ain't like that here, black and whites live in relative harmony here, even when i was in the army i never saw any black soldiers being racially abused, and a lot of them held high ranks too, this is the most racially tolerent country in the world in my view, i personally have never seen anybody oppressed because of there colour or race where i live, also, my mum says you are talking rubbish, she said there where never any lynchings here 50 years ago an she was in school then, do you even live in the UK? you know this was the first country to abolish slaveryviper-kid

Of course I live in the UK ... And regardless of what you're mother says, History says differently, do some research, and i'm not talking US either, im talking about the UK.

I'm not talking about harmony, 'cause im sure everyone has black, white, asian friends, im talking about how minorities have to work twice as hard to achieve as much as a white majority would have to. As i've said before, without being through it, you wouldnt understant it. Perhaps you should ask your black friends how they honestly feel about it?

This has nothing to do with the riots however, and classicism is also a prominent issue, which effects far more people, regardless of race or religion.

A white man will never understand. Blacks sweated for this country for free and they repay them by slabbing them in a estate to kill each other.Why do applications or forms state 'equality' then go to ask if you are white, black or asian meaning your race matters in their decisions

That sure sounds weird. But actually in my country sometimes similar things are done to positively discriminate.. Why do you keep referring to the 'blacks sweated for free' argument...?

The Germans invaded my country, Italy had chosen the 'wrong side' in WW2, the Catholics had their inquisition, and I can keep going on... So I still hate the Germans, hate Italy and hate all Catholics.... :shock: (yes this was sarcasm...)

The issue you mention actually calls for a genuine excuse, but I don't think you should expect a lot more...

And with the entire 'whites will never understand thing'....that sounds so immature... like 50cent like immature. Even in the US where racial issues are much stronger and are actually still very problematic, blacks criticize the entire 'rap game' attitude of other blacks.

And for the 'you've never experienced' blabla.. how can you know what any of us have experienced? I for one certainly DID experience the whole class and economic divide which is starting to become very present today... and I certainly do have conversations with other people (including 'blacks' as you keep calling them... it seems that you're focussing more on skin than I do...) and never heard of this general racism in my country.

Racism is not dead... it's very much still alive. But I'm seeing it on an individual level, not on a 'look how that entire company/city/country discriminates' scale...

I'm actually technically a rocket scientist, though my salary is crap and my job has not much to do with my education. It wasn't an easy road to take, but I never got anything in return... I always give my all... Oh crap....I never noticed..but I must be an albino then...??

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too bad, timing is not perfect. If they do it during Olympics next year. UK is going to be laugh by world.

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Uhm... Insurance?Frosal

Yea the cost of rebuilding the factory will be minimal as its covered by insurance the production of disk will be greatly slowed down.

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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]i have a lot of black friends who have better jobs than i do, it may be that way in your manor but it ain't like that here, black and whites live in relative harmony here, even when i was in the army i never saw any black soldiers being racially abused, and a lot of them held high ranks too, this is the most racially tolerent country in the world in my view, i personally have never seen anybody oppressed because of there colour or race where i live, also, my mum says you are talking rubbish, she said there where never any lynchings here 50 years ago an she was in school then, do you even live in the UK? you know this was the first country to abolish slaveryviper-kid

Of course I live in the UK ... And regardless of what you're mother says, History says differently, do some research, and i'm not talking US either, im talking about the UK.

I'm not talking about harmony, 'cause im sure everyone has black, white, asian friends, im talking about how minorities have to work twice as hard to achieve as much as a white majority would have to. As i've said before, without being through it, you wouldnt understant it. Perhaps you should ask your black friends how they honestly feel about it?

This has nothing to do with the riots however, and classicism is also a prominent issue, which effects far more people, regardless of race or religion.

A white man will never understand. Blacks sweated for this country for free and they repay them by slabbing them in a estate to kill each other. Why do applications or forms state 'equality' then go to ask if you are white, black or asian meaning your race matters in their decisions

And a blackman born within the last 30 years will never know what blacks before then have gone through unless there listening to stories told by there parents. Blacks are GIVEN more oppertunties to succeed then any race . More scholoarship funds , racial quota laws here in the united states. Im tired of hearing people whine I made a decent living and I did it because I was qualifed for the job , it burns me to see a black guy with the same job who has no degree and no expereince but they had to meet there racial quota so they hired them anyways.

You guys are mentioning things that happend over 100 year ago get over it it had nothing to do with you.

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#191 eboyishere
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it's not a race issue anymore...it's now a class one

but half of these roits are a joke from younger kids that are bored and dont have **** to do. I mean half of them are useless

too bad, timing is not perfect. If they do it during Olympics next year. UK is going to be laugh by world.

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they already are

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#192 Zaibach
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@viperkid, thank you for turning thos into a black and white issue, because there arent any white people in council housing on benefits and doles. I have done charity work in and out of my locl community and did a stint in my law centre I see everyone from every walk of life white black brown, not alot of chinese though

All of them struggling to make ends meet.

There are soo many problems I have no idea where to begin, you're over simplification of the situation is insulting and I will report you the next time you use the 'black' line.

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#193 Filthybastrd
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I see it's still only white people who can be racist.

And what the hell are you guys doing over there in UK? I'll skip the news for a couple of days to avoid futile anger and disgust....

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[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Of course I live in the UK ... And regardless of what you're mother says, History says differently, do some research, and i'm not talking US either, im talking about the UK.

I'm not talking about harmony, 'cause im sure everyone has black, white, asian friends, im talking about how minorities have to work twice as hard to achieve as much as a white majority would have to. As i've said before, without being through it, you wouldnt understant it. Perhaps you should ask your black friends how they honestly feel about it?

This has nothing to do with the riots however, and classicism is also a prominent issue, which effects far more people, regardless of race or religion.

DevilAtrix

A white man will never understand. Blacks sweated for this country for free and they repay them by slabbing them in a estate to kill each other. Why do applications or forms state 'equality' then go to ask if you are white, black or asian meaning your race matters in their decisions

And a blackman born within the last 30 years will never know what blacks before then have gone through unless there listening to stories told by there parents. Blacks are GIVEN more oppertunties to succeed then any race . More scholoarship funds , racial quota laws here in the united states. Im tired of hearing people whine I made a decent living and I did it because I was qualifed for the job , it burns me to see a black guy with the same job who has no degree and no expereince but they had to meet there racial quota so they hired them anyways.

You guys are mentioning things that happend over 100 year ago get over it it had nothing to do with you.

USA=/=UK. Racial quato there here is 'british jobs for british people' (Former PM) meaning 'whites jobs for white people' equality my ass
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#195 Filthybastrd
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[QUOTE="DevilAtrix"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] A white man will never understand. Blacks sweated for this country for free and they repay them by slabbing them in a estate to kill each other. Why do applications or forms state 'equality' then go to ask if you are white, black or asian meaning your race matters in their decisionsviper-kid

And a blackman born within the last 30 years will never know what blacks before then have gone through unless there listening to stories told by there parents. Blacks are GIVEN more oppertunties to succeed then any race . More scholoarship funds , racial quota laws here in the united states. Im tired of hearing people whine I made a decent living and I did it because I was qualifed for the job , it burns me to see a black guy with the same job who has no degree and no expereince but they had to meet there racial quota so they hired them anyways.

You guys are mentioning things that happend over 100 year ago get over it it had nothing to do with you.

USA=/=UK. Racial quato there here is 'british jobs for british people' (Former PM) meaning 'whites jobs for white people' equality my ass

No offense but all of your posts in this thread contain a tone of racism as well.

Remember to not throw rocks when living in a glass house.

And there is no justice in this. It's a multicultural pandemonia with multicultural victims...

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@viperkid, thank you for turning thos into a black and white issue, because there arent any white people in council housing on benefits and doles. I have done charity work in and out of my locl community and did a stint in my law centre I see everyone from every walk of life white black brown, not alot of chinese though

All of them struggling to make ends meet.

There are soo many problems I have no idea where to begin, you're over simplification of the situation is insulting and I will report you the next time you use the 'black' line.

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The truth hurts. Sorry I don't act like the government and say we have equality when we don't. This is not your normal 'COD Sux' thread this is real and if you don't like it go to the normal thread.
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#197 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

@viperkid, thank you for turning thos into a black and white issue, because there arent any white people in council housing on benefits and doles. I have done charity work in and out of my locl community and did a stint in my law centre I see everyone from every walk of life white black brown, not alot of chinese though

All of them struggling to make ends meet.

There are soo many problems I have no idea where to begin, you're over simplification of the situation is insulting and I will report you the next time you use the 'black' line.

viper-kid

The truth hurts. Sorry I don't act like the government and say we have equality when we don't. This is not your normal 'COD Sux' thread this is real and if you don't like it go to the normal thread.

as a african american my self i see where you are coming from but i think you need to tone it down a little

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[QUOTE="DevilAtrix"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] A white man will never understand. Blacks sweated for this country for free and they repay them by slabbing them in a estate to kill each other. Why do applications or forms state 'equality' then go to ask if you are white, black or asian meaning your race matters in their decisionsviper-kid

And a blackman born within the last 30 years will never know what blacks before then have gone through unless there listening to stories told by there parents. Blacks are GIVEN more oppertunties to succeed then any race . More scholoarship funds , racial quota laws here in the united states. Im tired of hearing people whine I made a decent living and I did it because I was qualifed for the job , it burns me to see a black guy with the same job who has no degree and no expereince but they had to meet there racial quota so they hired them anyways.

You guys are mentioning things that happend over 100 year ago get over it it had nothing to do with you.

USA=/=UK. Racial quato there here is 'british jobs for british people' (Former PM) meaning 'whites jobs for white people' equality my ass

Dude... a lot of people are actually making an effort to let this be an interesting discussion...but you're really making me laugh her...

I'm not British and I even know more about that Gordon Brown statement than you seem to do.... First of all, he was criticized heavily for this statement but not for a black vs. white thing

That just means you're truly clueless and have no interest in politics whatsoever. He was referring to the xenophobia of the British towards the cheap Eastern-European workforce which could 'take your jobs' legally under EU law. Gordon Brown was rightfully criticized imo, but he was actually trying to comfort and protect YOUR interests..

You're the only one who seems to be discriminating here, since whites seem to suck and you even seem to discriminate yourself. Since you exclude yourself from 'the British people' (he actually said workers). So according to you black people =/= British...

That's just sick IMO, regardless of the fact that you seem to stress that you're black yourself...

Let's just stop this nonsensical argument and focus on the riots and their real background (or lack thereof)...

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#199 DevilAtrix
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[QUOTE="DevilAtrix"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] A white man will never understand. Blacks sweated for this country for free and they repay them by slabbing them in a estate to kill each other. Why do applications or forms state 'equality' then go to ask if you are white, black or asian meaning your race matters in their decisionsviper-kid

And a blackman born within the last 30 years will never know what blacks before then have gone through unless there listening to stories told by there parents. Blacks are GIVEN more oppertunties to succeed then any race . More scholoarship funds , racial quota laws here in the united states. Im tired of hearing people whine I made a decent living and I did it because I was qualifed for the job , it burns me to see a black guy with the same job who has no degree and no expereince but they had to meet there racial quota so they hired them anyways.

You guys are mentioning things that happend over 100 year ago get over it it had nothing to do with you.

USA=/=UK. Racial quato there here is 'british jobs for british people' (Former PM) meaning 'whites jobs for white people' equality my ass

White jobs for white people? Plese explain you cant because they dont exist. Any mainstream corporation is forced to follow racial quota laws which benefit black people. Equality? your right its not equality blacks are given such an advantage and given so many free handouts its emberassing. Yet people like you just sit around and cry all day. LMAO nobody cares and no I dont feel sorry for you.

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#200 DevilAtrix
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ALso why is this topic on SW? This has nothing to do with SW it should be in the general discussion thread.