Sony has COMMITMENT, something MS seems to lack.............

Xbox was their First try and it was a good console but because MS was being ripped by the makers of the parts they needed to build that console, they could not continue it and make any money.

The 360 on the other hand is a whole new ball game and I'm telling you here and now, MS will make their next console 110 % lol B.C. as the 360 library is awesome and many, many people will buy the new console and play the original 360 games and devs will still be making them even when the next gen MS machine arrives in 2011/2012.

What Sony will do then is the billion dollar question as the PS3 will look very long in the tooth compared to the MS machine and the 360 with a prolly $99.99 price tag.

You may want to pray Sony has a commitment to the PS3 because that is not a given.

Of course IMHO.

how sad is it that a almost 9 year old console is outselling its predecessor???mlbslugger86

Almost as Sad as MS not even being able to beat it's main rival's predecessor?

[QUOTE="reno7728"]too bad sony doesn't have commitment over rumblesuperjim42

that is the worst arguement ever. there is a something called dual shock 3 ever heard of it?? obviously not since your a blatant fanboy

Didn't Sony say rumble was last gen?

[QUOTE="donwoogie"]

Release dates for PS2 games

Amazing that, so long after the next gen consoles have been released, the PS2 is still being sold, produced and having games made for it despite its already massive array of titles on sale. It's even getting Mercenaries 2.

/me looks at Xbox dust catching on shelf above computer................

I wander if the Xbox 360 will get the same treatment..............

L1qu1dSword

MS said they were in the console buisiness for the long haul and that they were not planning on making a profit until the THIRD freaking system. If that is not commitment I don't know what is.

If by commitment you mean milking every last drop out of the console long after its worth playing then yeah sony wins.

[QUOTE="reno7728"]too bad sony doesn't have commitment over rumblesuperjim42

that is the worst arguement ever. there is a something called dual shock 3 ever heard of it?? obviously not since your a blatant fanboy

Do you have one?

no sony have some business sense. it would be idiotic of them to completly drop support for a console with a 120million user base and one that continues to sell very well in hardware and software. seriously any CEO who decides to ignore that would have to have their sanity seriosuly questioned. yes it could be argued that its underming the PS3...but so what? its making sony a crap load of money so why should they ignore it?

make no mistake...if the PS2 only achieved GC or xbox sales over its life and activity was near 0 shortly before the PS3s launch then it would have been dropped like a stone...just like MS and ninty dropped their respective consoles.

too bad sony doesn't have commitment over rumblereno7728

or commitment over UMD, or backwards compatibility. or sixaxis.

[QUOTE="superjim42"]

[QUOTE="reno7728"]too bad sony doesn't have commitment over rumblebphan

that is the worst arguement ever. there is a something called dual shock 3 ever heard of it?? obviously not since your a blatant fanboy

Didn't Sony say rumble was last gen?

yes they did. funny that suddenly rumble became not-last-gen as soon as Sony settled their lawsuit with the inventors of the technology.

i've said it once and i'll say it again. siding with any company is siding with evil.

yes u are right. But then again, why would nintendo and Ms support a console that is failing anyway?? PS2 is still good thats why sony support it.r_gam3

No, no, sorry. The PS2 is still BETTER than the PS3, thats why they still support it.

[QUOTE="player_leo"]Sony needs to have commitment for the PS2, it's the only one of their systems that is selling.EliteKitteh

This.

The Ps2 is still being supported because it continues to sell a lot of hardware and software. If this wasn't the case, you can bet your ass Sony would have left it for dead long ago.

The PSP and Ps3 are putting up respectable numbers, but the bulk of Sony Computer Entertainment's profits are undoubtedly coming from the Ps2.

Yep, the same reason that PS got the support it did for years into the PS2 life cycle. 100 million + users.

Coupled with the fact that I would imagine that PS2 in terms of hardware is a lot more profitable as the componant cost has dropped through the floor as it gets older.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"][QUOTE="EliteKitteh"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]They've done well this gen.The 360 is doing far better than the original xbox ever had. I don't think they'll be dropping it prematurely.EliteKitteh

I think you raise a good point, but consider this: the RROD issue has been a customer service nightmare and I've heard that to fix the hardware issues, the system needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. It has something to do with the placement of the fans and the design of the disc drive.

So would it be unreasonable to assume that they'd want a fresh start from that also? Or atleast they wouldn't want it haunting them?

I'm starting to see the point the TC has raised. Yes, the whole RRoD thing and the way they've handled it so far is unacceptable.

They've taken two steps forward and one step back this gen.

Funnily enough, Microsoft seems to correct its problems by releasing new products, so I assume they'll get an early start next gen (from some comments they've made, it seems that way), design the next Xbox in a fashion that makes sense and take advantage of the 3rd party support they've built up.

Although the PS3 might end up beating the 360 this gen due to longevity and killer APP's finally coming out, I think the next Microsoft console will have perfect pitch.

The 360 will finish last, ther's no doubt in my mind. Microsoft won't come out on top unless they get some exclusive games that have widespread appeal.

Right now, they're just catering to an American audience as evidenced by the limited success of the xbox brand in Japan and Europe.

Last seems to be a term that only really matters within system wars,

If Nintendo and Microsoft surpass their consoles totals from last generation and are profitable doing so then they have had an excellent gen,

If Sony finishes second with say 60-80 million consoles sold worldwide, where as the PS2 had 120 million is that a success for Sony?

Well, why would MS earn their way to the top when they can just do what they've always done, and BUY it.ZIMdoom

Release dates for PS2 games

Amazing that, so long after the next gen consoles have been released, the PS2 is still being sold, produced and having games made for it despite its already massive array of titles on sale. It's even getting Mercenaries 2.

/me looks at Xbox dust catching on shelf above computer................

I wander if the Xbox 360 will get the same treatment..............

donwoogie

come on dude, stop the fanboyism and lets be realistic, last generation the PS2 was the leading platform, the damn system sold over 100 million units, and was making crazy profit, the Xbox sold what? around 25 million, a nice number for sure, not as great as PS2 but fine regardless, but Microsoft wasn't making much of a profit, probably none at all.

so lets use our little brains and use common sense here and then tell me what would you do?

so when you say commitment are you trying to say that Sony is being loyal to their fanbase? I say no.

the only commitment Sony made with the PS2 is MONEY! no more, no less.

thanks and good night

Hasn't the PS3 started outselling the X360 in most countries now including Europe and Japan and soon to be North America. I read an article about a 2 days ago about how the PS3 is now outselling the X360 on a monthly basis and is going to shortly pass out the X360 sales in total.

Anway, Sony would be stupid not to have commitment to the PS2. It's still selling great so why would you want to stop the sales of a console that's making you alot of money?

Commitment.

Ps1 when first released.

Audio video jacks in the back, link cable jack, expansion port for promised future hookups.

Later versions

Multiport for audio video, Link jack, Expansion port

Last version

Multiport for audio video hmm they sure did remove alot...
The expansion port was removed because it was NEVER EVER used by sony it was instead used by hackers and cheat devices, the link port? was used by like 30 games out of the thousands released for the ps1 and eventually was removed.

Ps2 when first released

Multiport, ilink, 2 usb, ethernet, HDD port,optical audio connection

Last version
Mutliport, 2 usb ports, ethernet, optical audio connection

Ilink was removed it was never used, HDD port was removed 2 games in america used it *40 or so in japan* they removed it to lower price but left high and dry any developer wanting to bring the option here, Dirge of cerberus had HDD functions in japan which were removed from the american product.
And lets not forget all the broken promises of the ps2 comprehensive online services with AOL and other online companies...all which fell through.

http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=7Wzmf0ChL24&rel=1&eurl=&iurl=http%3A//i.ytimg.com/vi/7Wzmf0ChL24/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskI2eBHWZR7VRaRSpGGUMLod

Broken promises of the ps3.

So much for commitment, they couldn't produce the fabled ps3 in that video it would have cost 1000 dollars. There is a difference between being forced to support your ps2 product because your ps3 product isn't makeing you any money we atleast have confirmation the 360 has lowered price on its components to make a profit on systems sold, all we have is a 3rd party analyst saying this is how much the stuff in the ps3 costs, this does not mean the ps3 is making sony profit, as for its games? its games are barely selling enough to break even on the high development cost of the ps3.

Microsoft has GREAT GAMES something Sony seems to lackSerraph105

Sony has EXCELLENT down-right hot games. Something MS seems to really lack.

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]Microsoft has GREAT GAMES something Sony seems to lackxXxArchSagexXx

Sony has EXCELLENT down-right hot games. Something MS seems to really lack.

yeah thats why they have such great scores on gamespot.......wait a sec that MS

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]Microsoft has GREAT GAMES something Sony seems to lackxXxArchSagexXx

Sony has EXCELLENT down-right hot games. Something MS seems to really lack.

Like what? If you say uncharted, I'm emailing you a video of me -LMAO-.

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]Microsoft has GREAT GAMES something Sony seems to lackxXxArchSagexXx

Sony has EXCELLENT down-right hot games. Something MS seems to really lack.

lol and yet they aren't selling, the 360 has 35 1m+ sellers, the ps3? 6 and 1 of them is only because its been a packin FOREVER. The wii? has like near 20 million+ sellers....lol so time cannot be the issue cause the Wii has been out as long as the ps3...looks to me the games aren't selling on the ps3 cause they SUCK.

[QUOTE="xXxArchSagexXx"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]Microsoft has GREAT GAMES something Sony seems to lackSerraph105

Sony has EXCELLENT down-right hot games. Something MS seems to really lack.

yeah thats why they have such great scores on gamespot.......wait a sec that MS

Opposite way around bud.

[QUOTE="xXxArchSagexXx"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]Microsoft has GREAT GAMES something Sony seems to lackWilliamRLBaker

Sony has EXCELLENT down-right hot games. Something MS seems to really lack.

lol and yet they aren't selling, the 360 has 35 1m+ sellers, the ps3? 6 and 1 of them is only because its been a packin FOREVER. The wii? has like near 20 million+ sellers....lol so time cannot be the issue cause the Wii has been out as long as the ps3...looks to me the games aren't selling on the ps3 cause they SUCK.

And back to this.....first of all everybody with some common sense would know the reason why the PS3 didn't really sell was because it was expensive and the sudden "no more rumble" thing. I mean I'm admitting yeah, but since the price for the PS3 has been dropping and hot titles are being released, it's seen that the PS3 has begun outselling the X360 especially in Japan and Europe, that's a FACT.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="xXxArchSagexXx"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]Microsoft has GREAT GAMES something Sony seems to lackxXxArchSagexXx

Sony has EXCELLENT down-right hot games. Something MS seems to really lack.

lol and yet they aren't selling, the 360 has 35 1m+ sellers, the ps3? 6 and 1 of them is only because its been a packin FOREVER. The wii? has like near 20 million+ sellers....lol so time cannot be the issue cause the Wii has been out as long as the ps3...looks to me the games aren't selling on the ps3 cause they SUCK.

And back to this.....first of all everybody with some common sense would know the reason why the PS3 didn't really sell was because it was expensive and the sudden "no more rumble" thing. I mean I'm admitting yeah, but since the price for the PS3 has been dropping and hot titles are being released, it's seen that the PS3 has begun outselling the X360 especially in Japan and Europe, that's a FACT.

Hehehehe. That's a HUGE victory for the PS3 in japan. Beating the 360 like that. What a shock. Maybe they should focus on the WII over there, Just a thought.

[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="xXxArchSagexXx"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]Microsoft has GREAT GAMES something Sony seems to lackxXxArchSagexXx

Sony has EXCELLENT down-right hot games. Something MS seems to really lack.

yeah thats why they have such great scores on gamespot.......wait a sec that MS

Opposite way around bud.

360 AAA's
1. The Orange Box X360 EA Games 53 9.1 96.260%
2. BioShock X360 2K Games 90 9.3 95.344%
3. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare X360 Activision 74 9.1 94.094%
4. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion X360 2K Games 103 9.2 93.837%
5. Gears of War X360 Microsoft Game Studios 110 8.7 93.755%
6. Halo 3 X360 Microsoft Game Studios 87 8.5 93.429%
7. Rock Band X360 MTV Games 54 8.2 92.971%
8. Guitar Hero II X360 RedOctane 59 8.1 92.029%
9. Mass Effect X360 Microsoft Game Studios 77 9.2 90.847%
10. Rez HD X360 Q Entertainment 34 6.7 90.706%
11. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter X360 Ubisoft 87 8.7 90.523%

lol
And you bring up japan? wow you mean the ps3 is beating the 360 in system sales in japan? oh my god?! but what about game sales?

Oh you mean its beating the 360 in games sales in japan?
yet in a country that doesn't like the 360 it still gets 2000+ sales weekly, and still gets 10k sofrware sales plus weekly hmmmmm. Every where else in the world? the 360 destroys the ps3 in software sales.

[QUOTE="EliteKitteh"][QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]

[QUOTE="player_leo"]Sony needs to have commitment for the PS2, it's the only one of their systems that is selling.donwoogie

This.

The Ps2 is still being supported because it continues to sell a lot of hardware and software. If this wasn't the case, you can bet your ass Sony would have left it for dead long ago.

The PSP and Ps3 are putting up respectable numbers, but the bulk of Sony Computer Entertainment's profits are undoubtedly coming from the Ps2.

Actually, it's a culmination of reputation, since Sony did the same for the PS1 and it improves Sony's reputation which is good for consumers and for the company, sales, the PS2 has a tonne of games on it so they might aswell keep producing consoles since there is still a tonne of good games that most people have not tried, and, if someone buys a PS2, it is unlikely that they will buy another console for a few years and they know MS has a short lifespan on their console compared to their's. So eventually, when the PS2 is discontinued, there'll be a lot of loyal Sony customers who'll probably switch the PS3.

Do you honestly believe that drivel :|

If you want to boil it down to facts. The playstation 1 was continued after the release of its successor. The playstation 2 has also continued after the release of its sucessor. What has MS done to build my confidence? They bummed the Xbox as soon as Xbox 360 was released and became the first subscription online gaming service where you buy the game, then have to pay to play it online.

[QUOTE="xXxArchSagexXx"][QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="xXxArchSagexXx"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]Microsoft has GREAT GAMES something Sony seems to lackWilliamRLBaker

Sony has EXCELLENT down-right hot games. Something MS seems to really lack.

yeah thats why they have such great scores on gamespot.......wait a sec that MS

Opposite way around bud.

360 AAA's
1. The Orange Box X360 EA Games 53 9.1 96.260%
2. BioShock X360 2K Games 90 9.3 95.344%
3. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare X360 Activision 74 9.1 94.094%
4. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion X360 2K Games 103 9.2 93.837%
5. Gears of War X360 Microsoft Game Studios 110 8.7 93.755%
6. Halo 3 X360 Microsoft Game Studios 87 8.5 93.429%
7. Rock Band X360 MTV Games 54 8.2 92.971%
8. Guitar Hero II X360 RedOctane 59 8.1 92.029%
9. Mass Effect X360 Microsoft Game Studios 77 9.2 90.847%
10. Rez HD X360 Q Entertainment 34 6.7 90.706%
11. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter X360 Ubisoft 87 8.7 90.523%

lol

Sony are still releasing games for the PS2 because it still produces money. MS have killed off the Xbox because if they continued producing stuff for it the 360 would be lacking the support it currently has and would be costing MS money. It's not "commitment" or a lack of it, it's basic buisness practice.MegaPigeon

[QUOTE="xXxArchSagexXx"][QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="xXxArchSagexXx"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]Microsoft has GREAT GAMES something Sony seems to lackWilliamRLBaker

Sony has EXCELLENT down-right hot games. Something MS seems to really lack.

yeah thats why they have such great scores on gamespot.......wait a sec that MS

Opposite way around bud.

360 AAA's
1. The Orange Box X360 EA Games 53 9.1 96.260%
2. BioShock X360 2K Games 90 9.3 95.344%
3. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare X360 Activision 74 9.1 94.094%
4. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion X360 2K Games 103 9.2 93.837%
5. Gears of War X360 Microsoft Game Studios 110 8.7 93.755%
6. Halo 3 X360 Microsoft Game Studios 87 8.5 93.429%
7. Rock Band X360 MTV Games 54 8.2 92.971%
8. Guitar Hero II X360 RedOctane 59 8.1 92.029%
9. Mass Effect X360 Microsoft Game Studios 77 9.2 90.847%
10. Rez HD X360 Q Entertainment 34 6.7 90.706%
11. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter X360 Ubisoft 87 8.7 90.523%

lol

Well i feel a bit :( after that but check here (Fixed link lol)

The PS3 has some really great titles plus the one's that are to launch later this year (Probably Q4) and in 2009 like GOW and FFXIII and especially MGS 4. And yeah i agree with you xsubtownerx, If PS3 shamed the X360 in Japan and even outsold the X360 by 25k in Europe, they should focus on the Wii now.

[QUOTE="xXxArchSagexXx"][QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="xXxArchSagexXx"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]Microsoft has GREAT GAMES something Sony seems to lackWilliamRLBaker

Sony has EXCELLENT down-right hot games. Something MS seems to really lack.

yeah thats why they have such great scores on gamespot.......wait a sec that MS

Opposite way around bud.

360 AAA's
1. The Orange Box X360 EA Games 53 9.1 96.260%
2. BioShock X360 2K Games 90 9.3 95.344%
3. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare X360 Activision 74 9.1 94.094%
4. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion X360 2K Games 103 9.2 93.837%
5. Gears of War X360 Microsoft Game Studios 110 8.7 93.755%
6. Halo 3 X360 Microsoft Game Studios 87 8.5 93.429%
7. Rock Band X360 MTV Games 54 8.2 92.971%
8. Guitar Hero II X360 RedOctane 59 8.1 92.029%
9. Mass Effect X360 Microsoft Game Studios 77 9.2 90.847%
10. Rez HD X360 Q Entertainment 34 6.7 90.706%
11. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter X360 Ubisoft 87 8.7 90.523%

lol

i love that you can get them all on the 360

and archsage you bring up japanese sales all the time now.
lol
wow you mean the ps3 is beating the 360 in system sales in japan? oh my god?! but what about game sales?

Oh you mean its beating the 360 in games sales in japan?
yet in a country that doesn't like the 360 it still gets 2000+ sales weekly, and still gets 10k sofrware sales plus weekly hmmmmm. Every where else in the world? the 360 destroys the ps3 in software sales.
you mean in a country where sony is based and where something like 3x more games have been released on the ps3 then in america...? lol maybe if sony we're to release all those games in the rest of the world they'd come up in software sales.WilliamRLBaker

You got me there lol. Well Sony's still releasing titles so until those titles are out, I can't say nothing lol.

yawn if sony has great commitment then how come they didn't have an extended warranty for all the ps2 problems. You simply had to rebuy the ps2 if it broke on you.sirk1264

That's one thing that sucked about the PS2, the warranty. My friend's PS2 couldn't read disks anymore and when he phoned Sony they told him to buy a new one.

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="donwoogie"]

Release dates for PS2 games

Amazing that, so long after the next gen consoles have been released, the PS2 is still being sold, produced and having games made for it despite its already massive array of titles on sale. It's even getting Mercenaries 2.

/me looks at Xbox dust catching on shelf above computer................

I wander if the Xbox 360 will get the same treatment..............

donwoogie

MS said they were in the console buisiness for the long haul and that they were not planning on making a profit until the THIRD freaking system. If that is not commitment I don't know what is.

If by commitment you mean milking every last drop out of the console long after its worth playing then yeah sony wins.

Not everyone who plays games consoles is a hard gamer. Some people don't want a next gen console. Some just like to play games casually. I have at least 8 friends who play their PS2s and have no next gen console.

as a casual gamer I would much prefer Wii to PS2.

[QUOTE="donwoogie"]

Actually, it's a culmination of reputation, since Sony did the same for the PS1 and it improves Sony's reputation which is good for consumers and for the company, sales, the PS2 has a tonne of games on it so they might aswell keep producing consoles since there is still a tonne of good games that most people have not tried, and, if someone buys a PS2, it is unlikely that they will buy another console for a few years and they know MS has a short lifespan on their console compared to their's. So eventually, when the PS2 is discontinued, there'll be a lot of loyal Sony customers who'll probably switch the PS3.

taker42

So when will they jump ship to the PS3? Ans: When it's cheap and has a great library.

When will that happen? Ans: When PS3 is at the end of its cycle, which according to Sony, is 10 years from now. Nice... that is IF they don't jump to the Wii first.

many Wii owner are known to have a 2nd console

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"][QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="superjim42"]

[QUOTE="reno7728"]too bad sony doesn't have commitment over rumbletaker42

that is the worst arguement ever. there is a something called dual shock 3 ever heard of it?? obviously not since your a blatant fanboy

You guys do know, Sony was under lawsuit with the rumble and thats why the PS3 didn't have it. Now the suit is over and its coming out. Geez week arguments from uneducated fanboys.

Sounds committed to me. A patent company sued Sony over Rumble, Sony didn't think it was worth the money. PS3 fans said we wanted rumble Sony paid up and brought it back. Sony sounds committed to it's fans to me.

[QUOTE="sirk1264"]yawn if sony has great commitment then how come they didn't have an extended warranty for all the ps2 problems. You simply had to rebuy the ps2 if it broke on you.xXxArchSagexXx

That's one thing that sucked about the PS2, the warranty. My friend's PS2 couldn't read disks anymore and when he phoned Sony they told him to buy a new one.

I had 3 ps2's. The first 2 broke until i finally got a slimline. After the second ps2 i didn't have one for about a year. I got myself an Xbox instead and wanted to see what games it had. Come to think of it, the xbox had more games that catered to my tastes than the ps2. The ps2 was a great system though but to say sony has more commitment than MS which is what the TC is saying is imho not true. Both companies have their share of great games. But microsoft acknowledges their problem and offers an extended warranty for 3 years under the RROD that if you bought a 360 now and it breaks after 3 years, the 360 should be pretty cheap much like the ps2 is now by then. I love all systems and i give all systems a chance but i will always find it funny when people side with a company that wants nothing but your money. I rather side with games i like and not greedy corporations.

Sounds committed to me. A patent company sued Sony over Rumble, Sony didn't think it was worth the money. PS3 fans said we wanted rumble Sony paid up and brought it back. Sony sounds committed to it's fans to me.

EmperorSupreme

I would agree with you BUT, Sony charged you for it.. Seems more like a rip off than fan loyalty.

[QUOTE="xXxArchSagexXx"]

[QUOTE="sirk1264"]yawn if sony has great commitment then how come they didn't have an extended warranty for all the ps2 problems. You simply had to rebuy the ps2 if it broke on you.sirk1264

That's one thing that sucked about the PS2, the warranty. My friend's PS2 couldn't read disks anymore and when he phoned Sony they told him to buy a new one.

I had 3 ps2's. The first 2 broke until i finally got a slimline. After the second ps2 i didn't have one for about a year. I got myself an Xbox instead and wanted to see what games it had. Come to think of it, the xbox had more games that catered to my tastes than the ps2. The ps2 was a great system though but to say sony has more commitment than MS which is what the TC is saying is imho not true. Both companies have their share of great games. But microsoft acknowledges their problem and offers an extended warranty for 3 years under the RROD that if you bought a 360 now and it breaks after 3 years, the 360 should be pretty cheap much like the ps2 is now by then. I love all systems and i give all systems a chance but i will always find it funny when people side with a company that wants nothing but your money. I rather side with games i like and not greedy corporations.

Currently Sony isn't like that in terms of the PS3. My cousin tried to play his PS3 one day and it couldn't eject disks anymore so when he phoned Sony they actually repaired it for him lol. But what the TC is saying is in terms of games. Sony's still producing games for the PS2 and why wouldn't they? They make tons of money of the PS2 alone.... But at the same time, MS didn't really expect much from the Xbox so it's not a shock that they aren't so comitted to the Xbox but are to the X360.

[QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="caseypayne69"][QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="superjim42"]

[QUOTE="reno7728"]too bad sony doesn't have commitment over rumbleEmperorSupreme

that is the worst arguement ever. there is a something called dual shock 3 ever heard of it?? obviously not since your a blatant fanboy

You guys do know, Sony was under lawsuit with the rumble and thats why the PS3 didn't have it. Now the suit is over and its coming out. Geez week arguments from uneducated fanboys.

Sounds committed to me. A patent company sued Sony over Rumble, Sony didn't think it was worth the money. PS3 fans said we wanted rumble Sony paid up and brought it back. Sony sounds committed to it's fans to me.

Nice way to spin it. Sony called rumble which the 360 had last gen. If they were committed to their fans they would of had rumble in their controllers from day 1. Instead they gave us the ultra light and crappy sixaxis which doesn't even compare to the dual shock 2 or even the dual shock 3. They should have done what MS and Ninty did and settled out of court instead of being arrogant pricks and thinking that they could beat immersion in court.

[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="xXxArchSagexXx"]

[QUOTE="sirk1264"]yawn if sony has great commitment then how come they didn't have an extended warranty for all the ps2 problems. You simply had to rebuy the ps2 if it broke on you.xXxArchSagexXx

That's one thing that sucked about the PS2, the warranty. My friend's PS2 couldn't read disks anymore and when he phoned Sony they told him to buy a new one.

I had 3 ps2's. The first 2 broke until i finally got a slimline. After the second ps2 i didn't have one for about a year. I got myself an Xbox instead and wanted to see what games it had. Come to think of it, the xbox had more games that catered to my tastes than the ps2. The ps2 was a great system though but to say sony has more commitment than MS which is what the TC is saying is imho not true. Both companies have their share of great games. But microsoft acknowledges their problem and offers an extended warranty for 3 years under the RROD that if you bought a 360 now and it breaks after 3 years, the 360 should be pretty cheap much like the ps2 is now by then. I love all systems and i give all systems a chance but i will always find it funny when people side with a company that wants nothing but your money. I rather side with games i like and not greedy corporations.

Currently Sony isn't like that in terms of the PS3. My cousin tried to play his PS3 one day and it couldn't eject disks anymore so when he phoned Sony they actually repaired it for him lol. But what the TC is saying is in terms of games. Sony's still producing games for the PS2 and why wouldn't they? They make tons of money of the PS2 alone.... But at the same time, MS didn't really expect much from the Xbox so it's not a shock that they aren't so comitted to the Xbox but are to the X360.

Well i do see why sony continues to support the ps2. Thats where they are making the bulk of their money. It would be foolish to just discontinue a system that is a big money bringer for them. The xbox on the other hand continued to make microsoft lose money so thats why they discontinued it. The 360 although is making microsoft a profit.

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[QUOTE="reno7728"]too bad sony doesn't have commitment over rumblereno7728

Too bad MS doesn't have commitment over free online gaming.

my point is that sony backtracked from rumble is bad and 'last gen' to rumble is great we love it on the dual shock 3

Wow lets not talk about backtracking...... How about Microsoft, in the 360's lifespan theyve added HDMI, an HD-DVD Addon, 1080p Support and 3-year warranties along the way after denying all their consoles are faulty for so long.....

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[QUOTE="sirk1264"]yawn if sony has great commitment then how come they didn't have an extended warranty for all the ps2 problems. You simply had to rebuy the ps2 if it broke on you.sirk1264

That's one thing that sucked about the PS2, the warranty. My friend's PS2 couldn't read disks anymore and when he phoned Sony they told him to buy a new one.

I had 3 ps2's. The first 2 broke until i finally got a slimline. After the second ps2 i didn't have one for about a year. I got myself an Xbox instead and wanted to see what games it had. Come to think of it, the xbox had more games that catered to my tastes than the ps2. The ps2 was a great system though but to say sony has more commitment than MS which is what the TC is saying is imho not true. Both companies have their share of great games. But microsoft acknowledges their problem and offers an extended warranty for 3 years under the RROD that if you bought a 360 now and it breaks after 3 years, the 360 should be pretty cheap much like the ps2 is now by then. I love all systems and i give all systems a chance but i will always find it funny when people side with a company that wants nothing but your money. I rather side with games i like and not greedy corporations.

Currently Sony isn't like that in terms of the PS3. My cousin tried to play his PS3 one day and it couldn't eject disks anymore so when he phoned Sony they actually repaired it for him lol. But what the TC is saying is in terms of games. Sony's still producing games for the PS2 and why wouldn't they? They make tons of money of the PS2 alone.... But at the same time, MS didn't really expect much from the Xbox so it's not a shock that they aren't so comitted to the Xbox but are to the X360.

Well i do see why sony continues to support the ps2. Thats where they are making the bulk of their money. It would be foolish to just discontinue a system that is a big money bringer for them. The xbox on the other hand continued to make microsoft lose money so thats why they discontinued it. The 360 although is making microsoft a profit.

Exactly and MS is actually has proper service for the X360. For some reason though, I think Sony is going to discontinue the PS2 shortly because the PS3 is actually getting better and has begun to outsell the other consoles, I hope they don't discontinue commitment for the PS2 because even though i have a PS3, I still play my PS2 lol. It's fun XD