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#151 SambaLele
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]Sony does stand behind it's products more than MS does.DXGreat1_HGL

A lot more. I don't know how people is satisfied with a 3 year warranty, when the problem asks for a total recall and system redesign. Also, how could they accept that they're first Xbox was discontinued so early?

Yea, that Sonys commitment to the consumer explains why it took them 5 years and a lost lawsuit to fix their hardware problems, but I know, we only mention last gen when it pertains to sales...

Yeah, i remember that thread where someone showed you those articles proving that Sony addressed to the issue months after the system's launch, and the lawsuit having to do with only a group of users and had little to do with DRE... you're such a blind lemming i don't even know why i'm replying to you.

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#152 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="SambaLele"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]Sony does stand behind it's products more than MS does.SambaLele

A lot more. I don't know how people is satisfied with a 3 year warranty, when the problem asks for a total recall and system redesign. Also, how could they accept that they're first Xbox was discontinued so early?

Yea, that Sonys commitment to the consumer explains why it took them 5 years and a lost lawsuit to fix their hardware problems, but I know, we only mention last gen when it pertains to sales...

Yeah, i remember that thread where someone showed you those articles proving that Sony addressed to the issue months after the system's launch, and the lawsuit having to do with only a group of users and had little to do with DRE... you're such a blind lemming i don't even know why i'm replying to you.

Yea, links to a public forum proved everything :roll: . Sorry, want to try again?
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#153 SambaLele
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[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="SambaLele"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]Sony does stand behind it's products more than MS does.DXGreat1_HGL

A lot more. I don't know how people is satisfied with a 3 year warranty, when the problem asks for a total recall and system redesign. Also, how could they accept that they're first Xbox was discontinued so early?

Yea, that Sonys commitment to the consumer explains why it took them 5 years and a lost lawsuit to fix their hardware problems, but I know, we only mention last gen when it pertains to sales...

Yeah, i remember that thread where someone showed you those articles proving that Sony addressed to the issue months after the system's launch, and the lawsuit having to do with only a group of users and had little to do with DRE... you're such a blind lemming i don't even know why i'm replying to you.

Yea, links to a public forum proved everything :roll: . Sorry, want to try again?

Don't have to. I also remember you having no answer for that.

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#154 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]second of all my point is it's not sony that's supporting the PS2... it's third parties.carljohnson3456

What do you call God of War 2, MLB 08, and NBA 08? All Sony games.

those were LAST YEAR!!!!

i'm talking about this year.

You have no idea what you're talking about. MLB 08 just came out a month ago. Nice.

ok, i don't keep track of any sports titles since i don't cater to them in anyway. However, sports titles usually come in at a yearly basis, the fact that it' released is no surprise. It's like saying there's a new mario party for the GC.

like it or not Sony has let go of the PS2 since GoW2, and third parties are what's keeping it alive, you can go with your singstars and sports titles but this is not support IMO.

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#155 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="SambaLele"] Don't have to. I also remember you having no answer for that.

See, this is why you continue to lose. You can not provide viable, legitiment links to prove your claims. Sony would have never had to go to court or fix the problem had they addressed. That's why you haters continue to lose because you won't back yourselves up. I hava stated RROD exsists over and over again. I just keep askibg for you haters to back up your inflated numbers and you fail over and over again. I answered tie links provided, I guess your selective amnesia prevents you from remembering.
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#156 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]second of all my point is it's not sony that's supporting the PS2... it's third parties.nintendo-4life

What do you call God of War 2, MLB 08, and NBA 08? All Sony games.

those were LAST YEAR!!!!

i'm talking about this year.

You have no idea what you're talking about. MLB 08 just came out a month ago. Nice.

ok, i don't keep track of any sports titles since i don't cater to them in anyway. However, sports titles usually come in at a yearly basis, the fact that it' released is no surprise. It's like saying there's a new mario party for the GC.

like it or not Sony has let go of the PS2 since GoW2, and third parties are what's keeping it alive, you can go with your singstars and sports titles but this is not support IMO.

lol So basically games arent support? Just admit it, you're wrong. Nothing to be ashamed of, you're just wrong. I dont see how you can say that Twilight Princess being released on the GC over a year ago still counts as support but disregard exclusive sports and a title like Singstar. You're wrong, pure and simple. Besides, that's not the only way Sony still supports the system. They still actually make the system and all accessories. Heck, recently Socom 3 just got a bundle of new maps. Sony still supports the PS2, just admit it.

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#157 carljohnson3456
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Oh, and did I forget to mention the Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters port from the PSP to PS2 last month? You're right... Sony doesnt support the PS2 anymore. ;)
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#158 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]second of all my point is it's not sony that's supporting the PS2... it's third parties.carljohnson3456

What do you call God of War 2, MLB 08, and NBA 08? All Sony games.

those were LAST YEAR!!!!

i'm talking about this year.

You have no idea what you're talking about. MLB 08 just came out a month ago. Nice.

ok, i don't keep track of any sports titles since i don't cater to them in anyway. However, sports titles usually come in at a yearly basis, the fact that it' released is no surprise. It's like saying there's a new mario party for the GC.

like it or not Sony has let go of the PS2 since GoW2, and third parties are what's keeping it alive, you can go with your singstars and sports titles but this is not support IMO.

lol So basically games arent support? Just admit it, you're wrong. Nothing to be ashamed of, you're just wrong. I dont see how you can say that Twilight Princess being released on the GC over a year ago still counts as support but disregard exclusive sports and a title like Singstar. You're wrong, pure and simple. Besides, that's not the only way Sony still supports the system. They still actually make the system and all accessories. Heck, recently Socom 3 just got a bundle of new maps. Sony still supports the PS2, just admit it.

......................... i never said GC is being supported, i said in the time frame of GoW2 it was with TP that's it. And you know what? i'm not going to argue, go check that list yourself and tell me how many games is sony publishing for the PS2 ok?
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#161 nintendo-4life
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lol Ok "dont argue" because you cant. You're wrong. Too bad you cant admit it.carljohnson3456
i'll happily resume the argument once you tell me how much sony published games you'll find in that list ok? :)
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#162 hiryu3
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Sony & Microsoft had a lawsuit over rumble because of patent infringement that Emmersion had.

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Fixed that for you

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#163 carljohnson3456
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Listen, "not supporting" a console is what Nintendo did for the GC, and what MS did for the Xbox.

"Supporting" a console is what Sony is doing for the PS2. Still producing the console and accessories, and still producing games. MLB 08, and Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters just last month. Socom 3 just got new maps last week. They are still supporting the PS2, even if the support isnt as strong. To say that 3rd parties are keeping the PS2 alive and discrediting Sony for it is nonsense. You know that.

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#164 nintendo-4life
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list the games, then we'll talk.
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#165 carljohnson3456
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list the games, then we'll talk.nintendo-4life

I'm done. You're irrational. I've named 2 Sony games that came out last month and one that got support last week. Somehow you ignore that. You're dead wrong. Yes, 3rd party games are alive and well on the PS2, but they arent keeping the PS2 alive. If Sony stopped production on the PS2, and then quit making PS2 games - then you can say they arent supporting the console, but they are doing both. You're wrong. The truth hurts.

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#166 nintendo-4life
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I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PRODUCTION FOR THE PS2 !!!!!!!

of course this is sony support, but i'm talking about the games, what's keeping it alive and what do you have to show for it? a port and a sports game developed by a third of a fourth string team, good job!

this isn't support as in keeping a system alive, it's just releasing late games to the party. If Wii was as powerful as the 360 or PS3 then you would have seen Fire emblem on GC rather than Wii, and the such. When was the last time sony has developed something serious for the PS2? more than a year ago, and this year they are doing what? releasing 4 titles for the entire year? yeah i guess 1 game a quarter is more than enough eh?

PS. It's impolite and down right rude to continue telling people they are wrong. Please refrain from such accusations, I am seriously open to admitting a mistake, but it's not that you just have to prove you're point first.

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#167 carljohnson3456
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I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PRODUCTION FOR THE PS2 !!!!!!!

of course this is sony supportnintendo-4life

That's all I needed to hear ;)

I'm getting off here, thanks for coming around.

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#168 nintendo-4life
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I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PRODUCTION FOR THE PS2 !!!!!!!

of course this is sony supportcarljohnson3456

That's all I needed to hear ;)

I'm getting off here, thanks for coming around.

now who's being irrational, i was talking about support as in producing hardware :|

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#169 xsubtownerx
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Is it really a big deal that Sony Backtracked from Rumble not necessary to now its needed? Tehy lsitened to their fanbase. The fanbase wanted rumble and they gave it to them. black_awpN1

Yeah they gave it.. for 50$. ;)

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I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PRODUCTION FOR THE PS2 !!!!!!!

of course this is sony support, but i'm talking about the games, what's keeping it alive and what do you have to show for it? a port and a sports game developed by a third of a fourth string team, good job!

this isn't support as in keeping a system alive, it's just releasing late games to the party. If Wii was as powerful as the 360 or PS3 then you would have seen Fire emblem on GC rather than Wii, and the such. When was the last time sony has developed something serious for the PS2? more than a year ago, and this year they are doing what? releasing 4 titles for the entire year? yeah i guess 1 game a quarter is more than enough eh?

PS. It's impolite and down right rude to continue telling people they are wrong. Please refrain from such accusations, I am seriously open to admitting a mistake, but it's not that you just have to prove you're point first.

nintendo-4life

You know, you should really reread his argument.

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#171 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PRODUCTION FOR THE PS2 !!!!!!!

of course this is sony support, but i'm talking about the games, what's keeping it alive and what do you have to show for it? a port and a sports game developed by a third of a fourth string team, good job!

this isn't support as in keeping a system alive, it's just releasing late games to the party. If Wii was as powerful as the 360 or PS3 then you would have seen Fire emblem on GC rather than Wii, and the such. When was the last time sony has developed something serious for the PS2? more than a year ago, and this year they are doing what? releasing 4 titles for the entire year? yeah i guess 1 game a quarter is more than enough eh?

PS. It's impolite and down right rude to continue telling people they are wrong. Please refrain from such accusations, I am seriously open to admitting a mistake, but it's not that you just have to prove you're point first.

girlpowerz

You know, you should really reread his argument.

what did i miss exactly?
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#172 DXGreat1_HGL
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Heres your beloved Sony showing commitment to the consumer:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6139482.html

A Sony rep confirmed the settlement for GameSpot but insisted it is in no way an admission of guilt. "While we are convinced that there is no problem with these models, and that we would win if we defended this case through trial, we have agreed to settle these lawsuits to avoid the extraordinary high cost of cumbersome litigation," the representative said.

This article is dated Nov 9 2005. 5 years after launch. Bu bu bu Sony admited and took care of DRE's after 2 years. Keep beleiving that...

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#173 abdu4
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too bad sony doesn't have commitment over rumblereno7728
Copyright infringement?????????
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#174 player_leo
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[QUOTE="player_leo"]Sony needs to have commitment for the PS2, it's the only one of their systems that is selling.Ragashahs
you do know that the PS3 out sold 360 in 07

No I didn't know that, because it never happend. PS3 out sold the 360 the first two months of 08 in NorthAmerica. Besides that the PS2 outsold the PS3 and the 360.

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[QUOTE="reno7728"]too bad sony doesn't have commitment over rumbleabdu4
Copyright infringement?????????

Patent infringement.
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I agree with TC, MSFT doesn't commite to anything, thats why 85% of the worlds computers are Windows. They've completely abandonded their fanbase, and is why more people are using Vista than XP :o
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#177 HuusAsking
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I agree with TC, MSFT doesn't commite to anything, thats why 85% of the worlds computers are Windows. They've completely abandonded their fanbase, and is why more people are using Vista than XP :oPro_wrestler
Um...were you entirely serious? If not, where does the joke begin?
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Listen, "not supporting" a console is what Nintendo did for the GC, and what MS did for the Xbox.

"Supporting" a console is what Sony is doing for the PS2. Still producing the console and accessories, and still producing games. MLB 08, and Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters just last month. Socom 3 just got new maps last week. They are still supporting the PS2, even if the support isnt as strong. To say that 3rd parties are keeping the PS2 alive and discrediting Sony for it is nonsense. You know that.

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That may be all and well but what use is it to you? Your trying far to hard to back up this whole "commitment" argument for what ends? To prove that Sony is somehow better? I'm not saying favouritism always goes hand in hand with fanboyism, everyone has their preferences. but your doing an awful good job of proving me wrong.
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#179 eddy_of_york
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So, you think sony would still spoort the xbox if they had sold that few units? You are some kind of gullible there.
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#180 clone01
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]what on earth are you talking about? none of these games are published by sony :|carljohnson3456

Dont forget it was a year ago God of War 2 came out... and MLB 07, MLB 08, NBA 07, and NBA 08

yes and it was a little more than a year ago that Twilight princess was released for the GC, what's your point?

Ha. It just happened that game was a launch title for the Wii too. If nothing else, Nintendo hasnt put anything else on the GC since the Wii came out... yet Sony has for the PS2 since the PS3 has been out. So what's your point?

it was developed for GC originally. we have yet to see an actual Wii Zelda release.

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#181 lawlessx
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cows constantly bash the xbox for being a faliure,but question microsoft's reasons for ditching it and moving on to the 360 :?

im sure if the ps2 was selling at the same rate as the xbox..you whouldnt be seeing any support coming from sony.

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#182 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

Listen, "not supporting" a console is what Nintendo did for the GC, and what MS did for the Xbox.

"Supporting" a console is what Sony is doing for the PS2. Still producing the console and accessories, and still producing games. MLB 08, and Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters just last month. Socom 3 just got new maps last week. They are still supporting the PS2, even if the support isnt as strong. To say that 3rd parties are keeping the PS2 alive and discrediting Sony for it is nonsense. You know that.

Burnsmiesta



That may be all and well but what use is it to you? Your trying far to hard to back up this whole "commitment" argument for what ends? To prove that Sony is somehow better? I'm not saying favouritism always goes hand in hand with fanboyism, everyone has their preferences. but your doing an awful good job of proving me wrong.

First of all, I'm just defending the point - Sony has kept the PS2 alive. How is that fanboyism? And it is a good thing they keep a product alive after they release a new one, because then the PS2 owners isnt dead stuck with havng to buy a PS3. Can you say that it's bad that Sony has kept the PS2 alive? No. It's not about preference - it's a fact. Sony has kept the PS2 alive, and seeing how you are calling me about being a fanboy over that simple fact shows maybe my arguement is bothering you a little more than it should. Pot, meet kettle.

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#183 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

Listen, "not supporting" a console is what Nintendo did for the GC, and what MS did for the Xbox.

"Supporting" a console is what Sony is doing for the PS2. Still producing the console and accessories, and still producing games. MLB 08, and Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters just last month. Socom 3 just got new maps last week. They are still supporting the PS2, even if the support isnt as strong. To say that 3rd parties are keeping the PS2 alive and discrediting Sony for it is nonsense. You know that.

carljohnson3456



That may be all and well but what use is it to you? Your trying far to hard to back up this whole "commitment" argument for what ends? To prove that Sony is somehow better? I'm not saying favouritism always goes hand in hand with fanboyism, everyone has their preferences. but your doing an awful good job of proving me wrong.

First of all, I'm just defending the point - Sony has kept the PS2 alive. How is that fanboyism? And it is a good thing they keep a product alive after they release a new one, because then the PS2 owners isnt dead stuck with havng to buy a PS3. Can you say that it's bad that Sony has kept the PS2 alive? No. It's not about preference - it's a fact. Sony has kept the PS2 alive, and seeing how you are calling me about being a fanboy over that simple fact shows maybe my arguement is bothering you a little more than it should. Pot, meet kettle.

And just to temper arguments, why would Microsoft not want to do the same thing this time? Unlike last generation, it would be a good thing for their 360 to keep selling since it's to the point where each sale is a profit now (which was the main reason they dumped the old XBox with all speed--simple economic sense dictates you dump a money sink as soon as you can).
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#184 Burnsmiesta
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[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

Listen, "not supporting" a console is what Nintendo did for the GC, and what MS did for the Xbox.

"Supporting" a console is what Sony is doing for the PS2. Still producing the console and accessories, and still producing games. MLB 08, and Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters just last month. Socom 3 just got new maps last week. They are still supporting the PS2, even if the support isnt as strong. To say that 3rd parties are keeping the PS2 alive and discrediting Sony for it is nonsense. You know that.

carljohnson3456



That may be all and well but what use is it to you? Your trying far to hard to back up this whole "commitment" argument for what ends? To prove that Sony is somehow better? I'm not saying favouritism always goes hand in hand with fanboyism, everyone has their preferences. but your doing an awful good job of proving me wrong.

First of all, I'm just defending the point - Sony has kept the PS2 alive. How is that fanboyism? And it is a good thing they keep a product alive after they release a new one, because then the PS2 owners isnt dead stuck with havng to buy a PS3. Can you say that it's bad that Sony has kept the PS2 alive? No. It's not about preference - it's a fact. Sony has kept the PS2 alive, and seeing how you are calling me about being a fanboy over that simple fact shows maybe my arguement is bothering you a little more than it should. Pot, meet kettle.



Yes I have a preference for the 360. Does that make me a fanboy. No, I'm being completely liberal here, not once have I said Sony aren't commited. What facts? I'm just saying that your taking an awfully defensive position to anyone that says Sony aren't commited. Why? Do you work for them?
Also, assuming you already own a PS3 isn't your argument a little moot? Why would you buy something like MLB 08 for the PS2 if you have a PS3?
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#185 greenpyro33
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[QUOTE="caseypayne69"][QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="superjim42"]

[QUOTE="reno7728"]too bad sony doesn't have commitment over rumblespinecaton

that is the worst arguement ever. there is a something called dual shock 3 ever heard of it?? obviously not since your a blatant fanboy

You just proved his point, good job! :lol:

You guys do know, Sony was under lawsuit with the rumble and thats why the PS3 didn't have it. Now the suit is over and its coming out. Geez week arguments from uneducated fanboys.

The point is that Sony said Rumble was Last Gen and then they went back on their statement, You seem to be the uneducated fanboy... and it is "weak"

well, they made a mistake there. But, at least they fixed their mistake and listened to their consumers. Thats very nice. High Five!

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#186 donwoogie
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"][QUOTE="caseypayne69"][QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="superjim42"]

that is the worst arguement ever. there is a something called dual shock 3 ever heard of it?? obviously not since your a blatant fanboy

greenpyro33

You just proved his point, good job! :lol:

You guys do know, Sony was under lawsuit with the rumble and thats why the PS3 didn't have it. Now the suit is over and its coming out. Geez week arguments from uneducated fanboys.

The point is that Sony said Rumble was Last Gen and then they went back on their statement, You seem to be the uneducated fanboy... and it is "weak"

well, they made a mistake there. But, at least they fixed their mistake and listened to their consumers. Thats very nice. High Five!

..............MS said RROD wasn't real and they went back on their statement................ :roll:

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#187 Donkey_Puncher
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Sony does stand behind it's products more than MS does.dream431ca

Just like their lawsuit to fix the DRE problems, and their exploding batteries a few years back, and lets not forget about the illegal roots kits being uploaded from their CD's.

God do people really forget about these things?

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#188 Dahaka-UK
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That doesn't really show sonys commitment, there basically just holding onto the PS2 cause its there only source of income, until PS3 starts selling well as PS2. For now though keeping PS2 alive is only gimping the sales of PS3. It onlyreally shows how cowardly sony are for not letting go of the PS2 so the PS3 can thrive.
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#189 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]Sony does stand behind it's products more than MS does.Donkey_Puncher

Just like their lawsuit to fix the DRE problems, and their exploding batteries a few years back, and lets not forget about the illegal roots kits being uploaded from their CD's.

God do people really forget about these things?

'bu bu bu teh DRE problem was fixed 2 years after launch.' I've asked repeatedly for proof and shut those people up earlier this thread showing the GS article proving otherwise. To answer, it's called selective amnesia or lets forget Sonys evil by stating MS is evil. In other words, it's OK for Sony screws you because MS screws you...