Sony's first party games - all flash and no substance?

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] But according to you no one plays it and its forgotten so its not a treasure at all. Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Yet he blames Drake for not being iconic enough after just one game. Please. Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] But according to you no one plays it and its forgotten so its not a treasure at all. Bread_or_Decide

Replace "common sense" with "perception".

It's something I've noticed in general, not just here on teh internets.

It's like everyone just created a new character in ye olde Fallouts and dumped every single point in perception to spend on Endurance, Strength, or Charisma.

Maybe Hippo was one of the only people here not to do that?

Sometimes seems like it :P

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Yet he blames Drake for not being iconic enough after just one game. Please. Bread_or_Decide

Hell-how does it say anything at all about the character of Nathan Drake?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Yet he blames Drake for not being iconic enough after just one game. Please. Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] O RLY? Where'd i say Drake wasn't iconic enough? Or anything even close?Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Well you must have this super power to know what the gaming community as a whole loves or doesn't love. Clearly we all lack your special abilities. thepwninator

Sounds like Hippo has two accounts and is just agreeing with himself. Bread_or_Decide

Sounds like Hippo has two accounts and is just agreeing with himself. Bread_or_Decide

Right, i suppose i'm arguing with myself in this thread then right? :lol:

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Sounds like Hippo has two accounts and is just agreeing with himself. PBSnipes

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Sounds like Hippo has two accounts and is just agreeing with himself. Ninja-Hippo

Right, i suppose i'm arguing with myself in this thread then right? :lol:

Never mind the fact that, when we've posted our pictures off in OT, it's rather clear that we're different people :P

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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Sounds like Hippo has two accounts and is just agreeing with himself. thepwninator

Right, i suppose i'm arguing with myself in this thread then right? :lol:

Never mind the fact that, when we've posted our pictures off in OT, it's rather clear that we're different people :P

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Sounds like Hippo has two accounts and is just agreeing with himself. PBSnipes

Well, if not (which I think is the case), here it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

Right, i suppose i'm arguing with myself in this thread then right? :lol:

Ninja-Hippo

Never mind the fact that, when we've posted our pictures off in OT, it's rather clear that we're different people :P

Bah. I (and therefore you) know that to be false. We're just sub-accounts of the almighty Avant Game Overmind (or AGO) which hopes to take over all of Gamespot with its half-dozen mod accounts and many, many normal poster accounts all controlled by the Overmind. :P

Bah. I (and therefore you) know that to be false. We're just sub-accounts of the almighty Avant Game Overmind (or AGO) which hopes to take over all of Gamespot with its half-dozen mod accounts and many, many normal poster accounts all controlled by the Overmind. :P

thepwninator

[QUOTE="thepwninator"]Bah. I (and therefore you) know that to be false. We're just sub-accounts of the almighty Avant Game Overmind (or AGO) which hopes to take over all of Gamespot with its half-dozen mod accounts and many, many normal poster accounts all controlled by the Overmind. :PNinja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="thepwninator"]Bah. I (and therefore you) know that to be false. We're just sub-accounts of the almighty Avant Game Overmind (or AGO) which hopes to take over all of Gamespot with its half-dozen mod accounts and many, many normal poster accounts all controlled by the Overmind. :Pthepwninator

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="colosion"] Actually, Uncharted has an iqual or maybe larger cult following than Mass Effect. thepwninator

Well that's odd. Maybe most cows are enjoying their games for a change than constantly complaining about them on the internet.

I, for one, do just that. I don't feel it's needed to constantly talk about Killzone 2's graphics and gameplay. It has been said a million times now. I think everyone gets it by now that the game looks amazing, nothing more is needed to be said. Same with games like LittleBigPlanet... People are still playing the hell out of those games, just complaining about them gets old after a while.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] O RLY? Where'd i say Drake wasn't iconic enough? Or anything even close?Ninja-Hippo

strickly speaking, you implied it without actually saying it

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"]Wow, way off TC. Uncharted has one of the better stories and the BEST characters so far this gen. Heavenly Sword is one of the BEST stories this gen. LBP is deep as hell. etc, etc., etc. Yes, KZ2 is lacking in the story department but so are a lot of over-masculine shooters out there. Let's not use that one example to cover all, mmm-kay?Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"]Wow, way off TC. Uncharted has one of the better stories and the BEST characters so far this gen. Heavenly Sword is one of the BEST stories this gen. LBP is deep as hell. etc, etc., etc. Yes, KZ2 is lacking in the story department but so are a lot of over-masculine shooters out there. Let's not use that one example to cover all, mmm-kay?Mr_Splosher

or that R&C FTOD as docked point for being TOO varied in the gameplay department

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"]Wow, way off TC. Uncharted has one of the better stories and the BEST characters so far this gen. Heavenly Sword is one of the BEST stories this gen. LBP is deep as hell. etc, etc., etc. Yes, KZ2 is lacking in the story department but so are a lot of over-masculine shooters out there. Let's not use that one example to cover all, mmm-kay?Mr_Splosher

LBP's infinite replayability doesn't really matter when its best levels are still inferoir to NES games like Mario bros 3 and Megaman 2.

[QUOTE="Mr_Splosher"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] I didn't say they were bad games. I said too much emphasis is put on making them appear state-of-the-art graphics wise that the gameplay turns out forgettable. Not terrible. I'm not 'way off' by any means.hyperboy152000

or that R&C FTOD as docked point for being TOO varied in the gameplay department

When the varied gameplay isn't fun and gets in the way of the core gameplay which is actually fun then yes, I think docking it marks for gameplay that isn't enjoyable for the sake of variety is fair.

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Splosher"] Cuz LBP is all about the graphics, not the infinate replayability or anything like that...ActicEdge

or that R&C FTOD as docked point for being TOO varied in the gameplay department

When the varied gameplay isn't fun and gets in the way of the core gameplay which is actually fun then yes, I think docking it marks for gameplay that isn't enjoyable for the sake of variety is fair.

take out that varied gameplay then the game would have been "bland" and didnt try anything new

[QUOTE="Mr_Splosher"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] I didn't say they were bad games. I said too much emphasis is put on making them appear state-of-the-art graphics wise that the gameplay turns out forgettable. Not terrible. I'm not 'way off' by any means.ActicEdge

LBP's infinite replayability doesn't really matter when its best levels are still inferoir to NES games like Mario bros 3 and Megaman 2.

[QUOTE="Mr_Splosher"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] I didn't say they were bad games. I said too much emphasis is put on making them appear state-of-the-art graphics wise that the gameplay turns out forgettable. Not terrible. I'm not 'way off' by any means.ActicEdge

LBP's infinite replayability doesn't really matter when its best levels are still inferoir to NES games like Mario bros 3 and Megaman 2.

too bad you havent checked out ANY of the levels beyond the intro levels, let alone the user created levels (or atleast the really good user created levels) you can actually recreate the levels in megaman 2 so i dont really see how that makes sense

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[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

or that R&C FTOD as docked point for being TOO varied in the gameplay department

hyperboy152000

When the varied gameplay isn't fun and gets in the way of the core gameplay which is actually fun then yes, I think docking it marks for gameplay that isn't enjoyable for the sake of variety is fair.

take out that varied gameplay then the game would have been "bland" and didnt try anything new

Not my problem, if the varied gameplay isn't as fun as the gameplay of killing crap with sweet weapons then the devs need to improve the other stuff or not bother with it.

strickly speaking, you implied it without actually saying it

hyperboy152000

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"]Wow, way off TC. Uncharted has one of the better stories and the BEST characters so far this gen. Heavenly Sword is one of the BEST stories this gen. LBP is deep as hell. etc, etc., etc. Yes, KZ2 is lacking in the story department but so are a lot of over-masculine shooters out there. Let's not use that one example to cover all, mmm-kay?Mr_Splosher

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[QUOTE="Mr_Splosher"] Cuz LBP is all about the graphics, not the infinate replayability or anything like that...hyperboy152000

LBP's infinite replayability doesn't really matter when its best levels are still inferoir to NES games like Mario bros 3 and Megaman 2.

too bad you havent checked out ANY of the levels beyond the intro levels, let alone the user created levels (or atleast the really good user created levels) you can actually recreate the levels in megaman 2 so i dont really see how that makes sense

Yes I have, not that you would know. Recreating megaman 2 levels does not make them the same as megaman 2 just like the mario knock off levels suck compared to the real thing. The physics are different as is the gameplay (hell can you even shoot?) and its not designed with Megaman 2 in mind which is why recreation is useless. You'll have to try harder than that.

take out that varied gameplay then the game would have been "bland" and didnt try anything new

hyperboy152000

because those sixaxis minigames added so much to the game...

those ball rolling puzzles were fustrating, not fun or challenging

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Splosher"] Cuz LBP is all about the graphics, not the infinate replayability or anything like that...Mr_Splosher

LBP's infinite replayability doesn't really matter when its best levels are still inferoir to NES games like Mario bros 3 and Megaman 2.

I have, they don't touch those 2 games, they aren't even close.

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

LBP's infinite replayability doesn't really matter when its best levels are still inferoir to NES games like Mario bros 3 and Megaman 2.

ActicEdge

too bad you havent checked out ANY of the levels beyond the intro levels, let alone the user created levels (or atleast the really good user created levels) you can actually recreate the levels in megaman 2 so i dont really see how that makes sense

Yes I have, not that you would know. Recreating megaman 2 levels does not make them the same as megaman 2 just like the mario knock off levels suck compared to the real thing. The physics are different as is the gameplay (hell can you even shoot?) and its not designed with Megaman 2 in mind which is why recreation is useless. You'll have to try harder than that.

You can, actually.

too bad you havent checked out ANY of the levels beyond the intro levels, let alone the user created levels (or atleast the really good user created levels) you can actually recreate the levels in megaman 2 so i dont really see how that makes sense

hyperboy152000

how would levels fix inferior gameplay? LBP didnt set out to be better then mario or megaman, it set out to be "fun"

i thought the multiplayer may have been a hint at that

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

LBP's infinite replayability doesn't really matter when its best levels are still inferoir to NES games like Mario bros 3 and Megaman 2.

too bad you havent checked out ANY of the levels beyond the intro levels, let alone the user created levels (or atleast the really good user created levels) you can actually recreate the levels in megaman 2 so i dont really see how that makes sense

Yes I have, not that you would know. Recreating megaman 2 levels does not make them the same as megaman 2 just like the mario knock off levels suck compared to the real thing. The physics are different as is the gameplay (hell can you even shoot?) and its not designed with Megaman 2 in mind which is why recreation is useless. You'll have to try harder than that.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

too bad you havent checked out ANY of the levels beyond the intro levels, let alone the user created levels (or atleast the really good user created levels) you can actually recreate the levels in megaman 2 so i dont really see how that makes sense

Storm_Marine

Yes I have, not that you would know. Recreating megaman 2 levels does not make them the same as megaman 2 just like the mario knock off levels suck compared to the real thing. The physics are different as is the gameplay (hell can you even shoot?) and its not designed with Megaman 2 in mind which is why recreation is useless. You'll have to try harder than that.

Umm...you can, actually.

Hence why I put it in brackets, not sure whether you could. The physics are still different from Megaman however and the gameplay in LBP was never meant to replicate a game like Megaman hence why as I said, recreation is useless and will always be inferior (shooting or no shooting :P)

Judging by your sig, anything not "Nintendo" is crap.Mr_Splosher

:shock:

oh no he didn't!

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

too bad you havent checked out ANY of the levels beyond the intro levels, let alone the user created levels (or atleast the really good user created levels) you can actually recreate the levels in megaman 2 so i dont really see how that makes sense

Mr_Splosher

Yes I have, not that you would know. Recreating megaman 2 levels does not make them the same as megaman 2 just like the mario knock off levels suck compared to the real thing. The physics are different as is the gameplay (hell can you even shoot?) and its not designed with Megaman 2 in mind which is why recreation is useless. You'll have to try harder than that.

I'm a big nintendo fan and Yoshi's Island is my favourite game. Okay now, what does that have to do with my point?