Sony's first party games - all flash and no substance?

I don't think so at all. There just have been a lack of truely memorable games on Sony's side this gen.

Wasdie

I don't think so at all. There just have been a lack of truely memorable games on Sony's side this gen.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] HAZE-Unit has properly debunked this thread for the bullspit that it is.IronBass

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I don't think so at all. There just have been a lack of truely memorable games on Sony's side this gen.

EmperorSupreme

Not every game has to be MGS4 to be memorable games.

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I don't think so at all. There just have been a lack of truely memorable games on Sony's side this gen.

Nike_Air

Not every game has to be MGS4 to be memorable games.

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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"] Little Big Planet? Uncharted? MGS4? And I'm still playing and so are a lot of other people WarhawkTREAL_Since

Not every game has to be MGS4 to be memorable games.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] HAZE-Unit has properly debunked this thread for the bullspit that it is.IronBass

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] HAZE-Unit has properly debunked this thread for the bullspit that it is.PoppaGamer

Why? because he disagrees with the TC and agrees that my points are making more sense than the TC? HAZE-Unit

No. Because he has pretty much insulted the TC one way or another practically in every post.

Most of them were already modded, that's why they can not be seen right now.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="IronBass"] You are taking it way too seriously. :|IronBass

TC has good points,people should attack his opinion and not him personally that is really low.McdonaIdsGuy

Do you mean good points about bashing almost all of the best games on the PS3 and singling out Sony's first party instead of being neutral and say "do you think today's games are all flash and no substance?" that too doesn't make sense but it's at least better than singling out Sony and going more specific by pointing at Sony's first party to support his own idea and put MGS4 out of the equation to make it like it is the only good memorable game on the PS3 lol.

[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]TC has good points,people should attack his opinion and not him personally that is really low.HAZE-Unit

Do you mean good points about bashing almost all of the best games on the PS3 and singling out Sony's first party instead of being neutral and say "do you think today's games are all flash and no substance?" that too doesn't make sense but it's at least better than singling out Sony and going more specific by pointing at Sony's first party to support his own idea and put MGS4 out of the equation to make it like it is the only good memorable game on the PS3 lol.

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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]TC has good points,people should attack his opinion and not him personally that is really low.McdonaIdsGuy

Do you mean good points about bashing almost all of the best games on the PS3 and singling out Sony's first party instead of being neutral and say "do you think today's games are all flash and no substance?" that too doesn't make sense but it's at least better than singling out Sony and going more specific by pointing at Sony's first party to support his own idea and put MGS4 out of the equation to make it like it is the only good memorable game on the PS3 lol.

[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]TC has good points,people should attack his opinion and not him personally that is really low.HAZE-Unit

Do you mean good points about bashing almost all of the best games on the PS3 and singling out Sony's first party instead of being neutral and say "do you think today's games are all flash and no substance?" that too doesn't make sense but it's at least better than singling out Sony and going more specific by pointing at Sony's first party to support his own idea and put MGS4 out of the equation to make it like it is the only good memorable game on the PS3 lol.

Why does SW have so much trouble with the concept that *gasp!* people can have different opinions?

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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]TC has good points,people should attack his opinion and not him personally that is really low.PBSnipes

Do you mean good points about bashing almost all of the best games on the PS3 and singling out Sony's first party instead of being neutral and say "do you think today's games are all flash and no substance?" that too doesn't make sense but it's at least better than singling out Sony and going more specific by pointing at Sony's first party to support his own idea and put MGS4 out of the equation to make it like it is the only good memorable game on the PS3 lol.

Why does SW have so much trouble with the concept that *gasp!* people can have different opinions?

his OP is full of crappy opinions about Sony's first party, his point of view is not a fact and I proved him wrong, thats why he didn't even respond to my op.

The fact that he bashed all Sonyfirst party games doesn't make any sense, the fact that he compared KZ2 to Halo 3 sales and popularity wisejust to say KZ2 is deadafter 2 months doesn't make sense, the fact that he said Sony first party games holds no interest in the gaming community doesn't make sense.

As for your other question, ask this question for the tc, btw there is a difference between making a point (opinion)and making nonsense.

[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Do you mean good points about bashing almost all of the best games on the PS3 and singling out Sony's first party instead of being neutral and say "do you think today's games are all flash and no substance?" that too doesn't make sense but it's at least better than singling out Sony and going more specific by pointing at Sony's first party to support his own idea and put MGS4 out of the equation to make it like it is the only good memorable game on the PS3 lol.

-snorlax-

[QUOTE="-snorlax-"][QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"] Killzone 2 single player has no substance,is boring as hell and repetitive,the only good thing about KZ2 is the multiplayer which is the only thing i play(oh i have lot of fun with it,i play it everyday),Uncharted is too short and has no replay value,the others i can't comment because i haven't play them and don't appeal to me.PoppaGamer

agree, ecip did a bad job with Gears 2, but to state that killzone 2 is even remotely close to Gears 1 is 100 % trolling

Well assuming and mind reading people not gonna get you anywhere,

his OP is full of crappy opinions about Sony's first party, his point of view is not a fact and I proved him wrong, thats why he didn't even respond to my op.

The fact that he bashed all Sonyfirst party games doesn't make any sense, the fact that he compared KZ2 to Halo 3 sales and popularity wisejust to say KZ2 is deadafter 2 months doesn't make sense, the fact that he said Sony first party games holds no interest in the gaming community doesn't make sense.

As for your other question, ask this question for the tc, btw there is a difference between making a point (opinion)and making nonsense.

HAZE-Unit

Quite simply, the PS3 is the only platform I've ever owned (and I've owned most of them since the SNES) that doesn't have a single game I can see myself playing years down the road.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"] Well assuming and mind reading people not gonna get you anywhere,

his OP is full of crappy opinions about Sony's first party, his point of view is not a fact and I proved him wrong, thats why he didn't even respond to my op.

The fact that he bashed all Sonyfirst party games doesn't make any sense, the fact that he compared KZ2 to Halo 3 sales and popularity wisejust to say KZ2 is deadafter 2 months doesn't make sense, the fact that he said Sony first party games holds no interest in the gaming community doesn't make sense.

As for your other question, ask this question for the tc, btw there is a difference between making a point (opinion)and making nonsense.

Quite simply, the PS3 is the only platform I've ever owned (and I've owned most of them since the SNES) that doesn't have a single game I can see myself playing years down the road.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"] Well assuming and mind reading people not gonna get you anywhere,

his OP is full of crappy opinions about Sony's first party, his point of view is not a fact and I proved him wrong, thats why he didn't even respond to my op.

The fact that he bashed all Sonyfirst party games doesn't make any sense, the fact that he compared KZ2 to Halo 3 sales and popularity wisejust to say KZ2 is deadafter 2 months doesn't make sense, the fact that he said Sony first party games holds no interest in the gaming community doesn't make sense.

As for your other question, ask this question for the tc, btw there is a difference between making a point (opinion)and making nonsense.

PBSnipes

Quite simply, the PS3 is the only platform I've ever owned (and I've owned most of them since the SNES) that doesn't have a single game I can see myself playing years down the road.

And what are the titles on 360 that do fit that bill. I'd be interested to hear what they have over the PS3 titles that somehow make them longer lasting. (grabbing popcorn)PoppaGamer

Also, you'll notice that I said the games I enjoy have a certain je ne sais quoi (quite literally, "I don't know what" in French) that I've found PS3 titles to be lacking. Anyway, off the top of my head (this gen only, obviously):

360:
-Halo 3
-PGR 4
-Mass Effect
-Forza 2
-Rockstar Table Tennis
-Rainbow Six: Vegas

Wii:
-Super Mario Galaxy
-Metroid Prime 3

PC:
-STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl
-Company of Heroes
-Audiosurf
-Sins of a Solar Empire
-World of Goo
-Dawn of War 2

PSP:
-Patapon
-Patapon 2 (based on demo)

PS3:
-Flower

Opinions, opinions and more opinions... Halo 3 has as much substance like R2, which is very little...I cannot really see a MS 1st party game with "substance" none...Sony 1 st party , a few... One thing the Tc is right is that this gen I've seen lesser games with that "substance" (which contains a big portion of subjectivity) so here's another "opinion" which won't make more or less valid the op (cause it's simply put an opinion which a lot of people and videpgame sites disagree) but whateverGiancar

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"] Well assuming and mind reading people not gonna get you anywhere,

his OP is full of crappy opinions about Sony's first party, his point of view is not a fact and I proved him wrong, thats why he didn't even respond to my op.

The fact that he bashed all Sonyfirst party games doesn't make any sense, the fact that he compared KZ2 to Halo 3 sales and popularity wisejust to say KZ2 is deadafter 2 months doesn't make sense, the fact that he said Sony first party games holds no interest in the gaming community doesn't make sense.

As for your other question, ask this question for the tc, btw there is a difference between making a point (opinion)and making nonsense.

PBSnipes

Quite simply, the PS3 is the only platform I've ever owned (and I've owned most of them since the SNES) that doesn't have a single game I can see myself playing years down the road.

Thats a good point of view, I don't mind it at all because you didn'tapply the experience you had with games you played for the whole world and made some generalization and pushed your opinion as a fact, hell, you didn't say the games were all about flash and had "no" substance.

So what games you didn't feel like they have the special impact other games did?

Welcome to console gaming TC? Very few console games develop a stable community.

Hmm. I'll agree with Ninja in calling "Uncharted" mostly flash and not much substance. The gameplay was rather weak -- it felt like Tomb Raider and Gears of War had an ugly baby gameplay wise. The enemies are all hyped up on PCP, and the difficulty level can change on a dime from easy to excruciatingly difficult -- don't even get me started when you play at a higher difficulty, it's hard enough on the default difficulty. And any game which resorts to mutants in the plot is a sign of terrible writing. :PStevo_the_gamer

Yea a certain jungle game did that.. kinda annoyed me.

That was a bad anology. A summer action flick to Sony's 1st party games? Summer action movies are the best action movies of the year! You think about them more because they are relased in the summer. Every game "fizzles" out. That's when I buy games. Price drop. But it's MS 1st party game (Halo3) vrs. Sony's (all others)*. "Halo 3 doesn't seem to fizzle out." So one could say all other MS first party games fizzle out as well, besides Halo3 of course. This is a Halo 3 thread.