sony's introduces an affordable 3D TV!!!! ($500)

LOL 24" for $500!!! Then you have to buy the glasses.

I can buy two 24" 1080p for less than that price! HAhahahaha.

dam...you got me excited for the TV and all I was really considering buying it.....until someone else mentioned it was 24 inches and all the excitement kinda drained out of me.

Can you not just buy the TV by itself? I don't want Resistance 3.

EDIT: Nevermind. 24"? $500? lol, no.

24 inch 500 bucks affordable! maybe if it was 32 inch then it would be

yea but the tv is like 5 inches lol.

Make a 42 incher w/3D for around 800 bucks, then I'll listen. I do like the design, though.

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]lol. 24" HDTV for $500. That is not affordable in my eyes.Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]lol. 24" HDTV for $500. That is not affordable in my eyes.HarlockJC

It's a 24 inch 3D LCD. I'd rather get a budget 42 inch plasma for the same price, or even cheaper, and get a much better TV. I see weird artifacts with 3D tvs so I don't need one.

[QUOTE="RogueShodown"] I'm happier that 3DTVs have gone down in price so much since a couple of years ago. Soon you'll be able to get bigger Internet-connected 3DTVs for less than $1000. Stevo_the_gamer

$500 is still pretty pricey. But I suppose that's the perfect size for college students. :P

Make a 42 incher w/3D for around 800 bucks, then I'll listen. I do like the design, though.

dr_octagon

done

Lets wait and see what the picture quality is like on this thing. I appreciate Sony trying to being 3D to the masses, but if it looks like crap, there is no point.

It would be like buying a crappy and cheap 5.1 surround just so you could have surround.

Innovazero2000

Btw i own a 24" 120hz PC screen with Nvidia 3Dvision support, can i use 3D with playstation on it?:P

aroxx_ab

Unfortunately no due to the way it works.

[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

Lets wait and see what the picture quality is like on this thing. I appreciate Sony trying to being 3D to the masses, but if it looks like crap, there is no point.

It would be like buying a crappy and cheap 5.1 surround just so you could have surround.

NVIDIATI

As long as it has a 1080p resolution, I am so still getting it. The only competition it has is Acer and Mitsubishi who might not even bring their display state-side.

Sadly though, it is no the same company it used to be. The quality is still good from LCD/LED perspective, but they aren't top in actual PQ anymore. :(

You're better off getting a regular HDTV @ $500 or 24" IPS monitor for lower price.

[QUOTE="dr_octagon"]

Make a 42 incher w/3D for around 800 bucks, then I'll listen. I do like the design, though.

hockeyruler12

done

Make a 42 incher w/3D for around 800 bucks, then I'll listen. I do like the design, though.

dr_octagon

[QUOTE="dr_octagon"]

Make a 42 incher w/3D for around 800 bucks, then I'll listen. I do like the design, though.

HarlockJC

[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"]

like how people completely disregard that its part of a package deal. lol.

HarlockJC

I've yet to buy an hdtv! :P

I dunno I paid $2,000 for a 55"Sony LED 3D and $1,400 for a 46"Sony LED 3D so I can't say these prices are terrible. Yes the size is small but it is a good amount of stuff for $500. I can't be mad at Sony for trying to spread the 3D word!!GoldenElementXL

EDIT: Fixed mistake of VT25 and VT30 price.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Vizio-E3D420VX/15992330?sourceid=1500000000000003142050&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=15992330 $698 for 42" Vizio = Epic win... they always have the best price and a good qualityMessiahbolical-

The Panasonic linked here will smash that Vizio into the ground. I'm not a fan of Vizio TVs either. I can find better prices on LG TVs which are better, and they have the highest failure rates of any TV around my area. Not to mention the picture is no better than a generic LCD.

[QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"]I dunno I paid $2,000 for a 55"Sony LED 3D and $1,400 for a 46"Sony LED 3D so I can't say these prices are terrible. Yes the size is small but it is a good amount of stuff for $500. I can't be mad at Sony for trying to spread the 3D word!!NVIDIATI

EDIT: Fixed mistake of VT25 and VT30 price.

like how people completely disregard that its part of a package deal. lol.

Infinite_Access

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"]I dunno I paid $2,000 for a 55"Sony LED 3D and $1,400 for a 46"Sony LED 3D so I can't say these prices are terrible. Yes the size is small but it is a good amount of stuff for $500. I can't be mad at Sony for trying to spread the 3D word!!GoldenElementXL

EDIT: Fixed mistake of VT25 and VT30 price.

The Panasonic linked here will smash that Vizio into the ground. I'm not a fan of Vizio TVs either. I can find better prices on LG TVs which are better, and they have the highest failure rates of any TV around my area. Not to mention the picture is no better than a generic LCD.

ChubbyGuy40

I've never had any problems with my 37" 1080p 120hz Vizio I've had for over 2 years now and use it hours upon hours every day as my COMPUTER MONITOR(using it right now).... so I don't know what you're talking about. The picture quality on it is great as well.

i didn't really understand that feature, but now that you put it in images, WOW, that's a really cool feature.

It's a 24 inch 3D LCD. I'd rather get a budget 42 inch plasma for the same price, or even cheaper, and get a much better TV. I see weird artifacts with 3D tvs so I don't need one.

WiiRocks66

Still, the 2-player feature for this new PS brand 3D TV looks very nice.

I would not spend $500 on a 24" tv, 3d or not

[QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] That's from your perspective, but for< $2000 you can get a Panasonic VT25 55inch, which has the second best 3D of any TV, and third best 2D reproduction. So to the informed consumer, this is a high price.

EDIT: Fixed mistake of VT25 and VT30 price.

NVIDIATI

2 years ago I bought a 42" LCD 1080p 240Hz TV for $600 so this really isn't that great of a deal. The monitor I just bought for my PC is a 24" and it only costed $200

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

The Panasonic linked here will smash that Vizio into the ground. I'm not a fan of Vizio TVs either. I can find better prices on LG TVs which are better, and they have the highest failure rates of any TV around my area. Not to mention the picture is no better than a generic LCD.

Messiahbolical-

I've never had any problems with my 37" 1080p 120hz Vizio I've had for over 2 years now and use it hours upon hours every day as my COMPUTER MONITOR(using it right now).... so I don't know what you're talking about. The picture quality on it is great as well.

General rule is that to get the PQ of a plasma from and LCD, you have to spend much, much more. Any professional reviewer can tell you that. Colors and blacks are much superior on a plasma where as most LCDs, especially the low end ones, will oversaturate the colors and increase brightness because people think bright and shiny = better. So for 100 bucks more (Do some searching since you can find it cheaper at other places) the picture quality and best 3D in the industry is easily worth it.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"] Have you seen that tv in person? Second I bought my TV in November of 2010. To me the Bravia and the Samsung were the two best and I picked the Sony. I did not make my decision lightly. I got the most bang for my buck trust me!!GoldenElementXL

Plasma doesn't get as bright, but LCD/LED sets are not bright after calibration just like plasmas. The only time they will be bright is when they need to be. The contrast ratios are never what the specs say they are, but they are always higher with a plasma in reality.

My bro just got a 42" 3DTV (Or maybe 47") for like $800. No glasses included though..

But that really makes this deal seem like a ripeoff.

But the splitscreen thing is freaking awesome.

[QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]Of course I have, the VT20/25 is from 2010 (launch price was $2300 at the start of 2010), the VT30 is 2011. And the performance of the VT20/25 is unmatched by any Sony TV.

ChubbyGuy40

Plasma doesn't get as bright, but LCD/LED sets are not bright after calibration just like plasmas. The only time they will be bright is when they need to be. The contrast ratios are never what the specs say they are, but they are always higher with a plasma in reality.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"] Have you seen that tv in person? Second I bought my TV in November of 2010. To me the Bravia and the Samsung were the two best and I picked the Sony. I did not make my decision lightly. I got the most bang for my buck trust me!!GoldenElementXL

See I thought that too. I went in to my shopping experience thinking that. But after a few hours it was obvious. After grabbing the remotes from the Best Buy guys and adjusting the tv's, the Plasma was not as good. I was shocked actually because good egg and most buddies told me that Plasma performed better. Maybe I need glasses but the color was crap on the plasmas in comparison. My buddies that bought plasma agree. A friend of mine told me that Plasma Tv's cheat on their aspect ratios. They rate from when the tv is off to when it is on. I am telling you that they do not get anywhere near as bright. I went in thinking I was going to buy a plasma TV and came out with a LED/LCD. I made the best buy employees move the tv's around just to make sure I was buying what I wanted. Thank god I knew the guys working there. Panasonic great but I think they got in to somebody's pocket. The tv's are no match for Samsung or Sony tv's. GoldenElementXL

First mistake was attempting to adjust in a Best Buy store. They have their TVs usually locked down in a demo mode. Their show rooms/display areas are not fit for calibrating or viewing purposes. They're fit to make the user look at the shinest because it grabs attention. One thing I love about plasmas is that even in their normal, out-of-the-box settings, skin tones and lighting effects are hands down far more accurate on plasmas. I was at Best Buy not too long ago and saw those new sexy Samsung LEDs with the very thin bezels. The picture? Crap. Not saying it was the worst thing ever, but for above 2000 bucks you definitely deserve more out of it. Skin tones made everyone look very yellow and it seemed like there was a bloom effect everywhere.

Plasmas do perform better. Cnet (Thanks to NvidiaAMD I've become fond of that website) and multiple other videophile sources will tell you the same. Aspect ratios are aspect ratios. 4:3 is an aspect ratio and 640x480 is a 4:3 resolution. 16:9 aspect ratio is the only ratio used for TVs today with a 1920x1080 resolution. Theres no cheating on that because its impossible to do and would make absolutely no sense. You mean contrast ratios? Most LCDs have a 100:1 in the low end, and about 800:1 in the middle and high. Ratios are far overrated and overblown. I believe its around 1,500:1 for the sweet spot that calibrators strive for.

Samsung gets in people's pockets. They are the one forcing false advertising and information down people's throats. Panasonic just bought Pioneer's plasma team (Who are the best in the business. Elite Kuros are unmatched except by a CRT that is no longer produced and even then some will debate it) and are putting them to use.

[QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"] See I thought that too. I went in to my shopping experience thinking that. But after a few hours it was obvious. After grabbing the remotes from the Best Buy guys and adjusting the tv's, the Plasma was not as good. I was shocked actually because good egg and most buddies told me that Plasma performed better. Maybe I need glasses but the color was crap on the plasmas in comparison. My buddies that bought plasma agree. A friend of mine told me that Plasma Tv's cheat on their aspect ratios. They rate from when the tv is off to when it is on. I am telling you that they do not get anywhere near as bright. I went in thinking I was going to buy a plasma TV and came out with a LED/LCD. I made the best buy employees move the tv's around just to make sure I was buying what I wanted. Thank god I knew the guys working there. Panasonic great but I think they got in to somebody's pocket. The tv's are no match for Samsung or Sony tv's. ChubbyGuy40

First mistake was attempting to adjust in a Best Buy store. They have their TVs usually locked down in a demo mode. Their show rooms/display areas are not fit for calibrating or viewing purposes. They're fit to make the user look at the shinest because it grabs attention. One thing I love about plasmas is that even in their normal, out-of-the-box settings, skin tones and lighting effects are hands down far more accurate on plasmas. I was at Best Buy not too long ago and saw those new sexy Samsung LEDs with the very thin bezels. The picture? Crap. Not saying it was the worst thing ever, but for above 2000 bucks you definitely deserve more out of it. Skin tones made everyone look very yellow and it seemed like there was a bloom effect everywhere.

Plasmas do perform better. Cnet (Thanks to NvidiaAMD I've become fond of that website) and multiple other videophile sources will tell you the same. Aspect ratios are aspect ratios. 4:3 is an aspect ratio and 640x480 is a 4:3 resolution. 16:9 aspect ratio is the only ratio used for TVs today with a 1920x1080 resolution. Theres no cheating on that because its impossible to do and would make absolutely no sense. You mean contrast ratios? Most LCDs have a 100:1 in the low end, and about 800:1 in the middle and high. Ratios are far overrated and overblown. I believe its around 1,500:1 for the sweet spot that calibrators strive for.

Samsung gets in people's pockets. They are the one forcing false advertising and information down people's throats. Panasonic just bought Pioneer's plasma team (Who are the best in the business. Elite Kuros are unmatched except by a CRT that is no longer produced and even then some will debate it) and are putting them to use.

[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"]

like how people completely disregard that its part of a package deal. lol.

HarlockJC

Um no. At no point did the Plasma look better. And once again this after thinking that the plasma was going to look better after reading online reviews. The tv's were not locked in any setting...... I had 3 tv's next to each other. And the 2 Best Buy employees I have known for over a decade. They did things that they would not do for most customers. I was in the store for over 4 hours looking at tv's. The plasma was the most dull at the high end. The black was the best but from darkest to lightest it was the worst. I even thought that the DLP had a better high end than the plasma and almost bought it because of the insane screen size. (I could have bought a 73" for the price of a 55".) Plasma is a good deal but there is no way anybody with 20/20 vision can say it is the best. The fact that some of the top sites say this after my experience in quite confusing. GoldenElementXL

Actually, any professional will have a field day telling you how plasma bests LCD and LCD-LEDs.

You're let Best Buy get to you. Again, Best Buy is no where near the proper place to judge TVs. Even in their Magnolia setups its still not good enough because they fill the rooms with light. Calibrations done by professionals can take up to 4 hours, for just one TV. Yes, it gets that in-depth. You mention the plasma was the most dull. I believe its the general knowledge any calibrated display is going to look dull and washed out once light enters the room. Blacks are what kills LCDs. It doesn't transition properly where it needs to and its very obvious during dark scenes, even on Sony and Samsung TVs.

Though, depending on the amount of light in the room, the LCD might have been the better choice. Though with bright rooms you're already dragging down the actual picture quality of the TV as you need to turn up the backlight and brightness to be a good clarity. And no, sweet mother of god you would've taken the DLP back the moment you turned it on. Brightness + DLP = worse visability than an LCD without backlight. You have to have a dark room or very low amount of light or else it kills visibility. Great thing about Panasonic and now LG plasmas is that they have ISF Day and ISF Night settings, which after correct application will give the best picture during the day and night accordingly and automatically switch over (They sense the light in the room.)

Maybe its because you haven't taken it home and spent time with a plasma. I would still take a Samsung 720p plasma over our 42" LG LCD (S-IPS panel of course.) Even after calibration I'd the Samsung in torch mode.

I'll buy it and sell the Resistance 3 garbage. I have a 24 inch HD tv in my room anyways so the transition will be smooth.