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#101 OneLazyAsian
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Due out sometime this holiday season, the new $499 SKU includes a 24" PlayStation-branded 3D display, a pair of 3D glasses, a 6' HDMI cable, and a copy of Resistance 3.

The package deal doesn't sound too bad when put like that, but I already have a 24" TV that I use as my monitor (not 3D though). And are other 3D TVs able to do the 2 player full screen feature?

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The package deal doesn't sound too bad when put like that, but I already have a 24" TV that I use as my monitor (not 3D though). And are other 3D TVs able to do the 2 player full screen feature?

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I think Vizio has some, but I'm not sure if they're currently at retail, and what the price(s) is.

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IGN said the picture quality is good, so that's a plus. I've wanted a 3DTV for a while, and this may be what I get, until I can afford a 50"+. :P

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Would this work as a PC monitor too, or do you need Nvidia's own glasses for 3D on PC?
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Would this work as a PC monitor too, or do you need Nvidia's own glasses for 3D on PC?ManicAce

You can use it with PC. With AMD you have to buy a third party software which I do not know the name of. With Nvidia, you have to buy 3D vision Play. Remember without dual-link DVI/HDMI gaming is limited to 720p only in 3D.

I think Vizio has some, but I'm not sure if they're currently at retail, and what the price(s) is.

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IGN said the picture quality is good, so that's a plus. I've wanted a 3DTV for a while, and this may be what I get, until I can afford a 50"+. :P

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Vizio doesn't have any yet. They have passive 3D TVs as well as LG but these are inferior to shutter glasses from what I know. IGN isn't a reputable reviewer for electronics and no gaming source is really. I'll wait until Cnet or another reputable website gets ahold of it :D

The package deal doesn't sound too bad when put like that, but I already have a 24" TV that I use as my monitor (not 3D though). And are other 3D TVs able to do the 2 player full screen feature?

OneLazyAsian

It really isn't bad. There is only one other display on the market that is in the same marketing area, which is an Acer computer montior. If you take the price of that monitor (440) plus resistance 3 (60 bucks) and a free hdmi cable (a dollar on amazon) its actually the perfect price. No there are not any other displays that do this too.

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[QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"] Um no. At no point did the Plasma look better. And once again this after thinking that the plasma was going to look better after reading online reviews. The tv's were not locked in any setting...... I had 3 tv's next to each other. And the 2 Best Buy employees I have known for over a decade. They did things that they would not do for most customers. I was in the store for over 4 hours looking at tv's. The plasma was the most dull at the high end. The black was the best but from darkest to lightest it was the worst. I even thought that the DLP had a better high end than the plasma and almost bought it because of the insane screen size. (I could have bought a 73" for the price of a 55".) Plasma is a good deal but there is no way anybody with 20/20 vision can say it is the best. The fact that some of the top sites say this after my experience in quite confusing. ChubbyGuy40

Actually, any professional will have a field day telling you how plasma bests LCD and LCD-LEDs.

You're let Best Buy get to you. Again, Best Buy is no where near the proper place to judge TVs. Even in their Magnolia setups its still not good enough because they fill the rooms with light. Calibrations done by professionals can take up to 4 hours, for just one TV. Yes, it gets that in-depth. You mention the plasma was the most dull. I believe its the general knowledge any calibrated display is going to look dull and washed out once light enters the room. Blacks are what kills LCDs. It doesn't transition properly where it needs to and its very obvious during dark scenes, even on Sony and Samsung TVs.

Though, depending on the amount of light in the room, the LCD might have been the better choice. Though with bright rooms you're already dragging down the actual picture quality of the TV as you need to turn up the backlight and brightness to be a good clarity. And no, sweet mother of god you would've taken the DLP back the moment you turned it on. Brightness + DLP = worse visability than an LCD without backlight. You have to have a dark room or very low amount of light or else it kills visibility. Great thing about Panasonic and now LG plasmas is that they have ISF Day and ISF Night settings, which after correct application will give the best picture during the day and night accordingly and automatically switch over (They sense the light in the room.)

Maybe its because you haven't taken it home and spent time with a plasma. I would still take a Samsung 720p plasma over our 42" LG LCD (S-IPS panel of course.) Even after calibration I'd the Samsung in torch mode.

Actually the Tv I owned before my 2 Led/lcd Sonys was the Panosonic P50S30. And when I bought the 55" Sony I judged side by side and I honestly liked the Sony better. To me it seems as if the media wants the Plasma TV to succeed since there was nothing I thought the Plasma did better. I promise you that I am a consumer reports subscriber and I do indeed do my research. There was nothing in my 27 year old eyes that the Panasonic did better. Maybe you have better vision than I do. But in my eyes I made the right choice. And the Best Buy guys are either relatives, or the best man in my wedding in less than a year. I know as much if not more about tv's than they do and I would trust their judgement more than any reviewer on any website. I did my homework and I promise you, while plasma is good, they will not be around in 2-4 years.
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

I think Vizio has some, but I'm not sure if they're currently at retail, and what the price(s) is.

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IGN said the picture quality is good, so that's a plus. I've wanted a 3DTV for a while, and this may be what I get, until I can afford a 50"+. :P

ChubbyGuy40

Vizio doesn't have any yet. They have passive 3D TVs as well as LG but these are inferior to shutter glasses from what I know. IGN isn't a reputable reviewer for electronics and no gaming source is really. I'll wait until Cnet or another reputable website gets ahold of it :D

Well, when someone who plays games for a living finds that the picture quality is nice, then I think it's somewhat reputable, lol. Doubt he'd be lying. It's not technically in-depth, but reading CNet reviews, etc. are implicit. I mentioned the IGN article because it's the only opinion I was aware of.

Either way, this sounds pretty good, overall. If I do get it, I'll probably put it on my desk or next to my bed. :P

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#107 daveg1
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great they are doing this but my only gripe is the size of the screen 24" is tiny, i hope they offer a 32" version or bigger down the line but then the cost effective thing will be out the window.. but a 32" version would have been amazing..
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Actually the Tv I owned before my 2 Led/lcd Sonys was the Panosonic PS50S30. And when I bought the 55" Sony I judged side by side and I honestly liked the Sony better. To me it seems as if the media wants the Plasma TV to succeed since there was nothing I thought the Plasma did better. I promise you that I am a consumer reports subscriber and I do indeed do my research. There was nothing in my 27 year old eyes that the Panasonic did better. Maybe you have better vision than I do. But in my eyes I made the right choice. And the Best Buy guys are either relatives, or the best man in my wedding in less than a year. I know as much if not more about tv's than they do and I would trust their judgement more than any reviewer on any website. I did my homework and I promise you, while plasma is good, they will not be around in 2-4 years. GoldenElementXL

You've got it all backwards. No one ever promotes plasmas, no one. Samsung and Sony force so much BS down consumer throats via advertisements its disgusting. They promised LED TVs when LCD-LEDs is what they give them and yes its a massive difference. My Captivate from Samsung has an AMOLED screen and it kicks the crap out of my TV and monitor picture wise. Whats worse is all the 120hz technology and other stuff is pure BS. Its a gimmick that makes the PQ worse and adds input lag to the TV. Real 120hz is for 3D only. Manufacturers add a lot of effects to their TVs its a wonder why they do it when it makes the picture worse. Then again, the public eats up anything marketed as new and better. Meanwhile, plasmas have actually focused on the quality of the TV.

Plasma is the current king. Theres really no arguing about that. They've done multiple studies and different benchmarks. LCD-LEDs never win. If you wanna see the current champ, as NvidiaATI. He owns one. Pioneer Elite Kuros are in a league of their own. Plasma will continue to reign until OLED hits the market. Their blacks are absolute.

Actually I thought LCD used to be better too. Then I got glasses. I'm not being an ass, because I actually did get glasses.

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"] Um no. At no point did the Plasma look better. And once again this after thinking that the plasma was going to look better after reading online reviews. The tv's were not locked in any setting...... I had 3 tv's next to each other. And the 2 Best Buy employees I have known for over a decade. They did things that they would not do for most customers. I was in the store for over 4 hours looking at tv's. The plasma was the most dull at the high end. The black was the best but from darkest to lightest it was the worst. I even thought that the DLP had a better high end than the plasma and almost bought it because of the insane screen size. (I could have bought a 73" for the price of a 55".) Plasma is a good deal but there is no way anybody with 20/20 vision can say it is the best. The fact that some of the top sites say this after my experience in quite confusing. GoldenElementXL

Actually, any professional will have a field day telling you how plasma bests LCD and LCD-LEDs.

You're let Best Buy get to you. Again, Best Buy is no where near the proper place to judge TVs. Even in their Magnolia setups its still not good enough because they fill the rooms with light. Calibrations done by professionals can take up to 4 hours, for just one TV. Yes, it gets that in-depth. You mention the plasma was the most dull. I believe its the general knowledge any calibrated display is going to look dull and washed out once light enters the room. Blacks are what kills LCDs. It doesn't transition properly where it needs to and its very obvious during dark scenes, even on Sony and Samsung TVs.

Though, depending on the amount of light in the room, the LCD might have been the better choice. Though with bright rooms you're already dragging down the actual picture quality of the TV as you need to turn up the backlight and brightness to be a good clarity. And no, sweet mother of god you would've taken the DLP back the moment you turned it on. Brightness + DLP = worse visability than an LCD without backlight. You have to have a dark room or very low amount of light or else it kills visibility. Great thing about Panasonic and now LG plasmas is that they have ISF Day and ISF Night settings, which after correct application will give the best picture during the day and night accordingly and automatically switch over (They sense the light in the room.)

Maybe its because you haven't taken it home and spent time with a plasma. I would still take a Samsung 720p plasma over our 42" LG LCD (S-IPS panel of course.) Even after calibration I'd the Samsung in torch mode.

Actually the Tv I owned before my 2 Led/lcd Sonys was the Panosonic P50S30. And when I bought the 55" Sony I judged side by side and I honestly liked the Sony better. To me it seems as if the media wants the Plasma TV to succeed since there was nothing I thought the Plasma did better. I promise you that I am a consumer reports subscriber and I do indeed do my research. There was nothing in my 27 year old eyes that the Panasonic did better. Maybe you have better vision than I do. But in my eyes I made the right choice. And the Best Buy guys are either relatives, or the best man in my wedding in less than a year. I know as much if not more about tv's than they do and I would trust their judgement more than any reviewer on any website. I did my homework and I promise you, while plasma is good, they will not be around in 2-4 years.

You sound just like me, I am the same age too and have owned 4 HDTV's in my lifetime. A 720p Sony bravia, a 720p panasonic plasma, a samsung 720p dlp and my current bedroom tv a 40" samsung 1080p 120htz lcd. I had my Bravia and panasonic side by side and the sony was better, not by much but better, the colors popped more and the black were about the same (even though they were supposed to be superior on the plasma). I do my research as well and I find a lot of Sony/Samsung tvs look better than plasmas. My friend has a new 1080p panasonic plasma and he even swears my current samsung looks better than his even though AVSforum gives his panny plasma such great ratings. I calibrated all my TV's by the way with the same install disc that best buy employees use when they do it at your home, plus ive also downloaded calibration tests etc. Anyway what I am trying to say is its all personal preference, just find the LCD's I buy to have colors that really stand out. Trust me, I would have bought a new plasma if I really thought it looked better but im happy with my LCD's.

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Actually the Tv I owned before my 2 Led/lcd Sonys was the Panosonic PS50S30. And when I bought the 55" Sony I judged side by side and I honestly liked the Sony better. To me it seems as if the media wants the Plasma TV to succeed since there was nothing I thought the Plasma did better. I promise you that I am a consumer reports subscriber and I do indeed do my research. There was nothing in my 27 year old eyes that the Panasonic did better. Maybe you have better vision than I do. But in my eyes I made the right choice. And the Best Buy guys are either relatives, or the best man in my wedding in less than a year. I know as much if not more about tv's than they do and I would trust their judgement more than any reviewer on any website. I did my homework and I promise you, while plasma is good, they will not be around in 2-4 years. GoldenElementXL
The Panasonic VT25 is the only TV from 2010 to come even remotely close to my PRO-111FD, which is still used as the industry reference display since its launch in 2008. The only reason Plasma might be gone in a couple of years is because Pioneer left the market, and Panasonic is taking too long to implement what patents they purchased. The only tech that challenges these pioneer displays is OLED, though depending on the outcome of Pioneer's ECC patents and research, it will dictate if Plasma can compete in the years to follow. No doubt when OLED launches LCD will die off as it has reached its end.

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#111 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

I think Vizio has some, but I'm not sure if they're currently at retail, and what the price(s) is.

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IGN said the picture quality is good, so that's a plus. I've wanted a 3DTV for a while, and this may be what I get, until I can afford a 50"+. :P

Episode_Eve

Vizio doesn't have any yet. They have passive 3D TVs as well as LG but these are inferior to shutter glasses from what I know. IGN isn't a reputable reviewer for electronics and no gaming source is really. I'll wait until Cnet or another reputable website gets ahold of it :D

Well, when someone who plays games for a living finds that the picture quality is nice, then I think it's somewhat reputable, lol. Doubt he'd be lying. It's not technically in-depth, but reading CNet reviews, etc. are implicit. I mentioned the IGN article because it's the only opinion I was aware of.

Either way, this sounds pretty good, overall. If I do get it, I'll probably put it on my desk or next to my bed. :P

IGN said Tritton headsets were some of the best they've ever tested, so I bought them.

I've heard better 30 dollar headphones. Me = this, IGN = this.

Thats how much I trust reviews about electronics from gaming websites :P However I'm still getting this unless a monitor with DisplayPort (HDMI on steroids. Its like Component cables to HDMI) that supports 1080p 3D is announced before it.

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#113 SaudiFury
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32 inches and they would of had me.

but i'd rather save up for the Vita myself.

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My friend has a new 1080p panasonic plasma and he even swears my current samsung looks better than his even though AVSforum gives his panny plasma such great ratings. I calibrated all my TV's by the way with the same install disc that best buy employees use when they do it at your home, plus ive also downloaded calibration tests etc.

SRTtoZ

If thats one of the high-end panasonic plasmas, he needs to find an ISF calibrator ASAP. That will bring true life out of his display (No Geek Squad is not where you go to find these guys.) Even my LG LCD has ISF settings which pleased calibrators. I opted to use Cnet's offerings for ISF instead of hiring someone and wow, night and day difference between other user settings I found. While its no plasma, the colors are great! Its no longer overly bright and the pop has stopped. It only pops when it needs to (When the color is actually bright and it isn't the TV changing it) and Blu-Rays look so much better. Gaming? Whole different league. The Witcher 2 is jaw-dropping. Never seen a more beautiful game. However dark scenes are still horrible like any LCD. What I noticed is that if the bezel has a deeper black than your panel/display, its really bad at dark scenes and overall color accuracy. The black paint used on those aren't even the darkest shade of black. Its more like 7 or 8 depending on how big of a grey scale you want (Mine is about a 1-10.) It crushes blacks and makes dark scenes hard to watch. My Captivate is an absolute delight to watch movies on though. Up! is still the best looking movie I've seen.

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[QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"]Actually the Tv I owned before my 2 Led/lcd Sonys was the Panosonic PS50S30. And when I bought the 55" Sony I judged side by side and I honestly liked the Sony better. To me it seems as if the media wants the Plasma TV to succeed since there was nothing I thought the Plasma did better. I promise you that I am a consumer reports subscriber and I do indeed do my research. There was nothing in my 27 year old eyes that the Panasonic did better. Maybe you have better vision than I do. But in my eyes I made the right choice. And the Best Buy guys are either relatives, or the best man in my wedding in less than a year. I know as much if not more about tv's than they do and I would trust their judgement more than any reviewer on any website. I did my homework and I promise you, while plasma is good, they will not be around in 2-4 years. ChubbyGuy40

You've got it all backwards. No one ever promotes plasmas, no one. Samsung and Sony force so much BS down consumer throats via advertisements its disgusting. They promised LED TVs when LCD-LEDs is what they give them and yes its a massive difference. My Captivate from Samsung has an AMOLED screen and it kicks the crap out of my TV and monitor picture wise. Whats worse is all the 120hz technology and other stuff is pure BS. Its a gimmick that makes the PQ worse and adds input lag to the TV. Real 120hz is for 3D only. Manufacturers add a lot of effects to their TVs its a wonder why they do it when it makes the picture worse. Then again, the public eats up anything marketed as new and better. Meanwhile, plasmas have actually focused on the quality of the TV.

Plasma is the current king. Theres really no arguing about that. They've done multiple studies and different benchmarks. LCD-LEDs never win. If you wanna see the current champ, as NvidiaATI. He owns one. Pioneer Elite Kuros are in a league of their own. Plasma will continue to reign until OLED hits the market. Their blacks are absolute.

Actually I thought LCD used to be better too. Then I got glasses. I'm not being an ass, because I actually did get glasses.

I don't think that I do. After my web and mag research My top 3 were all plasma tv's. It wasn't until I was in person that I felt that I was misled. Newegg, consumer reports, and tiger direct led me to believe that the Plasma tv's were the way to go. I asked a few friends and they thought I was crazy. After seeing everything in person and then comparing the lec/lcd with my existing plasma tv I felt that I was almost misled. Maybe things are so close now a days that it is down to personal preferences, but I don't feel like things were that close. I plan on buying a new living room tv in 2-3 years since that is what I have done in the past. (I have 1 60" projection tv, 1 55" plasma and then my current living room and bedroom tv's) I will see what looks best to me then, but right now I have what I want.
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http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/06/06/new-3d-display-and-ps3-accessories-debut-at-e3/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=3d_display_e311_060611

sony has created their own new line of 3D TVs specifically directed at PS3 gaming. and.......... its ****ing affordable!!!

"Each 3D Display will include one pair of 3D Glasses as well as an HDMI cable and a copy of Resistance 3 on Blu-ray disc-all of $499.99 (MSRP)"this also comes with 2 pairs of 3d glasses.

That alone has got me excited. but there is more

sony has developed a new method of split screen, in which 3d is utilized to make the players perceive the entire screen to themselves. Im not making this up. this is going to be at E3

3D Display by PlayStation: Two-player mode

3D Display by PlayStation: Two-player mode3D Display by PlayStation: Two-player mode

3D Display by PlayStation: Two-player mode

kinda blows the microsoft showing out of the water, doesnt it? I mean, this is just mindblowing.

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there are only a few 3d games

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ewww Pseudo 3d gaming Why Sony why push that?

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there are only a few 3d games

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Not if you use it for PC :D

Now if we could get a 3DTV with a 240hz refresh rate...it'd be perfect for some Goldeneye 007.

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I really wanna see how that 2P each seeing full screen thing works. I am actually a pretty big 3D gaming fan and this seems pretty cool. I thought that Microsoft was supposed to push 3D as well this E3 but I guess that isn't happening. Sony (console) and Nintendo (handheld) are the only ones in on the party I guess. Oh well.
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Think i going to buy this bundle, this tv is perfect next to my PC screen :D

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#121 Fizzman
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That is overpriced and I dont care for Resistance 3.

Only reason Sony is doing this is because they have so much riding on 3D. That is their fault though for trying to convince people that 3D isnt a complete joke. Look at the latest 3dTV sales, they are absolutely abysmal.

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That is overpriced and I dont care for Resistance 3.

Only reason Sony is doing this is because they have so much riding on 3D. That is their fault though for trying to convince people that 3D isnt a complete joke. Look at the latest 3dTV sales, they are absolutely abysmal.

Fizzman

Thats why Panasonic 3DTVs are always very low on stock right?

Its also not overpriced, unless its not native 1080p which I don't think theres a confirmation yet. This Acer monitor and Resistance 3 equal the price.

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That is overpriced and I dont care for Resistance 3.

Only reason Sony is doing this is because they have so much riding on 3D. That is their fault though for trying to convince people that 3D isnt a complete joke. Look at the latest 3dTV sales, they are absolutely abysmal.

ChubbyGuy40

Thats why Panasonic 3DTVs are always very low on stock right?

Its also not overpriced, unless its not native 1080p which I don't think theres a confirmation yet. This Acer monitor and Resistance 3 equal the price.

Ohh man. Great detective work there. Thanks for proving me wrong.

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#124 Asim90
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The split screen thing that makes this TV insanely awesome!

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#125 ChubbyGuy40
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Ohh man. Great detective work there. Thanks for proving me wrong.

Fizzman

Sarcasm detector is acting a little wonky right now...

It's just annoying when people scream OMG OVERPRICED. 3D monitors are still new, especially with each new one improving on crosstalk and brightness issues. For all we know it could have great picture quality too when not in 3D. I'm curious to know if the split-screen with 3D glasses is gonna be hardware or software enabled.

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That is overpriced and I dont care for Resistance 3.

Only reason Sony is doing this is because they have so much riding on 3D. That is their fault though for trying to convince people that 3D isnt a complete joke. Look at the latest 3dTV sales, they are absolutely abysmal.

Fizzman

You know Sony is one of those companies that want push new technology same way was with dvd and bluray. One reason why i love Sony, i want new tech...

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#127 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Ohh man. Great detective work there. Thanks for proving me wrong.

ChubbyGuy40

Sarcasm detector is acting a little wonky right now...

It's just annoying when people scream OMG OVERPRICED. 3D monitors are still new, especially with each new one improving on crosstalk and brightness issues. For all we know it could have great picture quality too when not in 3D. I'm curious to know if the split-screen with 3D glasses is gonna be hardware or software enabled.

3D is overpriced regardless of the price because it is a gimmicky feature that has little to no support in the content department even with Sony trying as hard as possible to convince people its worth it. The experience at home is just really bad when compared to the experience in movie theaters. I was actually in the market for a 3DTV because my dad was interested in purchasing one because he got a massive discount from his job. 1300 bucks for a 55 inch plama 1080p 3DTV. We went to Bestbuy and looked at the 3D and were like ummmm its not a deal if the 3D is garbage, which it was. We left and never looked back.

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#128 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

That is overpriced and I dont care for Resistance 3.

Only reason Sony is doing this is because they have so much riding on 3D. That is their fault though for trying to convince people that 3D isnt a complete joke. Look at the latest 3dTV sales, they are absolutely abysmal.

aroxx_ab

You know Sony is one of those companies that want push new technology same way was with dvd and bluray. One reason why i love Sony, i want new tech...

Good for Sony, but they dont have the huge war chest of funds to keep taking hits like that anymore by gambling on the latest tech. Samsung, Panasonic and other 3DTV makers dont have a game console that they are trying to sell too and movie studios that make 3D garbage. If 3D fails, then its going to hurt Sony the most. They have backed themselves into a corner and now are just crossing their fingers hoping consumers get very dumb.

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#129 Asim90
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I just checked the press release for this thing and its full 1080p. I'm going to try out 3D in one of my local game stores, if I like it and this launches at a good price in England, I may purchase one.

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#130 ChubbyGuy40
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3D is overpriced regardless of the price because it is a gimmicky feature that has little to no support in the content department even with Sony trying as hard as possible to convince people its worth it. The experience at home is just really bad when compared to the experience in movie theaters. I was actually in the market for a 3DTV because my dad was interested in purchasing one because he got a massive discount from his job. 1300 bucks for a 55 inch plama 1080p 3DTV. We went to Bestbuy and looked at the 3D and were like ummmm its not a deal if the 3D is garbage, which it was. We left and never looked back.

Fizzman

If it was anything but Panasonic I wouldn't be surprised. Along with picture quality, Panasonic is second to none really.

I got a chance to sit down with a Nvidia 3D monitor at Frys and was freakin blown away. It actually made MW2 a bit enjoyable. Thats why I'm gonna be a supporter. Its a damn shame consoles are so weak because Nvidia has so much stuff available on PC. FFS we can even play Wii games in true 3D with Nvidia's tech.

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#131 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

3D is overpriced regardless of the price because it is a gimmicky feature that has little to no support in the content department even with Sony trying as hard as possible to convince people its worth it. The experience at home is just really bad when compared to the experience in movie theaters. I was actually in the market for a 3DTV because my dad was interested in purchasing one because he got a massive discount from his job. 1300 bucks for a 55 inch plama 1080p 3DTV. We went to Bestbuy and looked at the 3D and were like ummmm its not a deal if the 3D is garbage, which it was. We left and never looked back.

ChubbyGuy40

If it was anything but Panasonic I wouldn't be surprised. Along with picture quality, Panasonic is second to none really.

I got a chance to sit down with a Nvidia 3D monitor at Frys and was freakin blown away. It actually made MW2 a bit enjoyable. Thats why I'm gonna be a supporter. Its a damn shame consoles are so weak because Nvidia has so much stuff available on PC. FFS we can even play Wii games in true 3D with Nvidia's tech.

It was Panasonic. TC-P55ST30

for some reason I cant link the TV, but thats the model.

Heck we even tried looking at other 3DTV's from different manufacturers and the 3D was just barely noticable and did nothing to improve my viewing experience. I fully expected the 3D to be garbage because I had read up about 3DTV, but my dad was incredibly disappointed in how bad it was. He isnt a big techno person who buys the latest thing on the market. If it werent for me, he would be content with at 27 inch SDTV.

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#132 aroxx_ab
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[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

That is overpriced and I dont care for Resistance 3.

Only reason Sony is doing this is because they have so much riding on 3D. That is their fault though for trying to convince people that 3D isnt a complete joke. Look at the latest 3dTV sales, they are absolutely abysmal.

Fizzman

You know Sony is one of those companies that want push new technology same way was with dvd and bluray. One reason why i love Sony, i want new tech...

Good for Sony, but they dont have the huge war chest of funds to keep taking hits like that anymore by gambling on the latest tech. Samsung, Panasonic and other 3DTV makers dont have a game console that they are trying to sell too and movie studios that make 3D garbage. If 3D fails, then its going to hurt Sony the most. They have backed themselves into a corner and now are just crossing their fingers hoping consumers get very dumb.

3D getting more and more common, more Cinemas getting built with it. Big movies like Harry potter etc come in 3D now, people will get used it. Sure you will never get as good 3D experience at home as in Cinema. But you can say same about your big 60" HDtv, it will not give as good experience. 3D maybe fail but i thank Sony for atleast trying new things.

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#133 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

3D is overpriced regardless of the price because it is a gimmicky feature that has little to no support in the content department even with Sony trying as hard as possible to convince people its worth it. The experience at home is just really bad when compared to the experience in movie theaters. I was actually in the market for a 3DTV because my dad was interested in purchasing one because he got a massive discount from his job. 1300 bucks for a 55 inch plama 1080p 3DTV. We went to Bestbuy and looked at the 3D and were like ummmm its not a deal if the 3D is garbage, which it was. We left and never looked back.

Fizzman

If it was anything but Panasonic I wouldn't be surprised. Along with picture quality, Panasonic is second to none really.

I got a chance to sit down with a Nvidia 3D monitor at Frys and was freakin blown away. It actually made MW2 a bit enjoyable. Thats why I'm gonna be a supporter. Its a damn shame consoles are so weak because Nvidia has so much stuff available on PC. FFS we can even play Wii games in true 3D with Nvidia's tech.

It was Panasonic. TC-P55ST30

for some reason I cant link the TV, but thats the model.

Heck we even tried looking at other 3DTV's from different manufacturers and the 3D was just barely noticable and did nothing to improve my viewing experience. I fully expected the 3D to be garbage because I had read up about 3DTV, but my dad was incredibly disappointed in how bad it was. He isnt a big techno person who buys the latest thing on the market. If it werent for me, he would be content with at 27 inch SDTV.

If the 3D was barely noticable, are you sure the sliders were even up? Even with the Panasonic and Samsung demos the 3D is clearly there.

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#134 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

You know Sony is one of those companies that want push new technology same way was with dvd and bluray. One reason why i love Sony, i want new tech...

aroxx_ab

Good for Sony, but they dont have the huge war chest of funds to keep taking hits like that anymore by gambling on the latest tech. Samsung, Panasonic and other 3DTV makers dont have a game console that they are trying to sell too and movie studios that make 3D garbage. If 3D fails, then its going to hurt Sony the most. They have backed themselves into a corner and now are just crossing their fingers hoping consumers get very dumb.

3D getting more and more common, more Cinemas getting built with it. Big movies like Harry potter etc come in 3D now, people will get used it. Sure you will never get as good 3D experience at home as in Cinema. But you can say same about your big 60" HDtv, it will not give as good experience. 3D maybe fail but i thank Sony for atleast trying new things.

We have 1080p 3D projectors now ya know :P We got even better 3D quality :D 60" TV? Try 15' wall!

Oh how I wish I was rich :(

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#135 Mystery_Writer
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Well SONY is (IMO) the best consumer electronics company when it comes to HDTVs. However, I don't think the coop feature would be that useful. But nevertheless a 3D TV for that price (albeit only 24") might be an interesting choice to many.
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#136 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

If it was anything but Panasonic I wouldn't be surprised. Along with picture quality, Panasonic is second to none really.

I got a chance to sit down with a Nvidia 3D monitor at Frys and was freakin blown away. It actually made MW2 a bit enjoyable. Thats why I'm gonna be a supporter. Its a damn shame consoles are so weak because Nvidia has so much stuff available on PC. FFS we can even play Wii games in true 3D with Nvidia's tech.

ChubbyGuy40

It was Panasonic. TC-P55ST30

for some reason I cant link the TV, but thats the model.

Heck we even tried looking at other 3DTV's from different manufacturers and the 3D was just barely noticable and did nothing to improve my viewing experience. I fully expected the 3D to be garbage because I had read up about 3DTV, but my dad was incredibly disappointed in how bad it was. He isnt a big techno person who buys the latest thing on the market. If it werent for me, he would be content with at 27 inch SDTV.

If the 3D was barely noticable, are you sure the sliders were even up? Even with the Panasonic and Samsung demos the 3D is clearly there.

We tried looking at several different 3DTV stations and the end result was the same, crap. I asked a best buy sales person to see if 3D was even working on these TV's, he looked into them and said yup.

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#137 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

It was Panasonic. TC-P55ST30

for some reason I cant link the TV, but thats the model.

Heck we even tried looking at other 3DTV's from different manufacturers and the 3D was just barely noticable and did nothing to improve my viewing experience. I fully expected the 3D to be garbage because I had read up about 3DTV, but my dad was incredibly disappointed in how bad it was. He isnt a big techno person who buys the latest thing on the market. If it werent for me, he would be content with at 27 inch SDTV.

Fizzman

If the 3D was barely noticable, are you sure the sliders were even up? Even with the Panasonic and Samsung demos the 3D is clearly there.

We tried looking at several different 3DTV stations and the end result was the same, crap. I asked a best buy sales person to see if 3D was even working on these TV's, he looked into them and said yup.

Definitely odd. Too bad because 3D makes the game feel just a little more fun. Depth perception is awesome.

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#138 aroxx_ab
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

It was Panasonic. TC-P55ST30

for some reason I cant link the TV, but thats the model.

Heck we even tried looking at other 3DTV's from different manufacturers and the 3D was just barely noticable and did nothing to improve my viewing experience. I fully expected the 3D to be garbage because I had read up about 3DTV, but my dad was incredibly disappointed in how bad it was. He isnt a big techno person who buys the latest thing on the market. If it werent for me, he would be content with at 27 inch SDTV.

Fizzman

If the 3D was barely noticable, are you sure the sliders were even up? Even with the Panasonic and Samsung demos the 3D is clearly there.

We tried looking at several different 3DTV stations and the end result was the same, crap. I asked a best buy sales person to see if 3D was even working on these TV's, he looked into them and said yup.

All people cant see 3D you maybe one of them?

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#139 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

If the 3D was barely noticable, are you sure the sliders were even up? Even with the Panasonic and Samsung demos the 3D is clearly there.

aroxx_ab

We tried looking at several different 3DTV stations and the end result was the same, crap. I asked a best buy sales person to see if 3D was even working on these TV's, he looked into them and said yup.

All people cant see 3D you maybe one of them?

No because I can see 3D perfectly fine in theaters.

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#140 razgriz_101
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Cool but 24" is too small for even my tastes.

I've got a 32" in my room an it does the job perfectly, had it for about a year and odds now and never had any bother with it.

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#141 DragonfireXZ95
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Not too sure how big a 24inch is. I might get it when I go off to college next year.

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My PC monitor is 24 inches. lol
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#142 LustForSoul
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Get rid of the glasses and I might consider. Also the tv is way too small.
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#143 deactivated-5b4ca38d5fcb0
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I think it's a good bundle, but if only the bezels were thinner i might had replaced my middle 24inch monitor then.
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#144 danish-death
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Cool idea but I would prefer it to be bigger than that.soulitane
At least it's a step in the right way. Next year we might be seeing 42".
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#145 Marka1700
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Were I live $700 buys you a 50" Brand name plasma or 42" Brand name LCD and electronics are almost always more expensive here than in America. $500 for a 24" Screen sounds pretty Expensive.
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#146 catfishmoon23
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Cool but 24" is too small for even my tastes.

I've got a 32" in my room an it does the job perfectly, had it for about a year and odds now and never had any bother with it.

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This is how I feel. Nice option for those interested I suppose.

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#147 ShadowriverUB
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It's amazing how many people think the split screen feature is a new innovation. It's not. I remember reading about a 3D TV that did this at least 6 months ago.

jjccjj92

People discover this idea when.... Sony relesed a patent for it, and heres result :)

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#148 Cali3350
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Early hands on are painting it as very cheap.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/07/sonys-24-inch-playstation-3d-display-first-hands-on/

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#149 DJ_Headshot
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Make a 42 incher w/3D for around 800 bucks, then I'll listen. I do like the design, though.

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I can do $900 so almost their or you can buy a used one for under $700.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-P42GT25-42-inch-Plasma/dp/B0040Q4TLQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1307447807&sr=8-3

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#150 abuabed
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You call this affordable and cheap? there are Asus, Samsung, ViewSonic monitors that go for much less than that....