sorry hermits PC isn't the best (facts only)

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] I haven't seen you include a single fact in any of your posts.

I've seen you say thats its PCvs consoles in here (untrue), that hermits say its PC vs consoles (untrue), that PC isn't a single platform (untrue), consoles have bigger hardware sales (untrue). Maybe you're getting upset because people are pointing out the many flaws in your "facts"?

jasonheyman

Well I can't get you to see the light my friend and I have a whole other thread I have proven facts given charts and links if you read it then you'll know!

Which I'm sure you already have and I'm just gettin crabbed at as usual..:roll:

The list I stated above is something you've said on this very page. Not one of them is true. I know you precious console is losing and you have to find a way to make yourself happy but guess what kiddo, you will get "crabbed" (from what you say it seems to happen to you alot, I'm guessing because you try to use your "facts" and people don't take you seriously) if you come without facts and try to pass off your incorrect biased opinions as truths.

Until the release of spore, I don't think I had seen an advert for a PC game on TV.

and spore is not quite a PC exclusive (according the the TV ad)

angryfodder

It is PC exclusive at the moment. Spore DS is different and so is the mobile one.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] I haven't seen you include a single fact in any of your posts.

I've seen you say thats its PCvs consoles in here (untrue), that hermits say its PC vs consoles (untrue), that PC isn't a single platform (untrue), consoles have bigger hardware sales (untrue). Maybe you're getting upset because people are pointing out the many flaws in your "facts"?

jasonheyman

Well I can't get you to see the light my friend and I have a whole other thread I have proven facts given charts and links if you read it then you'll know!

Which I'm sure you already have and I'm just gettin crabbed at as usual..:roll:

All you have done is show snippets from some developers... we provided you with this.

"He offered up stats on the US and worldwide PC games market, saying the former (not including casual games) in 2007 generated $2.76bn revenue, a year-on-year rise of 12 per cent, accounted for 30 per cent of gaming revenues in the territory, and was set to make $9.6bn - a rise of 16 per cent - in 2008.

For the global games market the figures were $8.3bn in 2007, up 14 per cent, with 2008 revenues set to be $9.6bn, up for 16 per cent.

There are 263 million onlne PC gamers worldwide, added Stude, saying it was proof that the PC gaming market's death has been greatly exaggerated."

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/post_msg.php?topic_id=26614845"e_msg_id=305941506

And you denied it, even though its made up of massive industry leaders as apposed to some random Dev's with very little insight beyond thier own game sales.

And you deny it..... and you claim we deny picary? (untrue.).

We say your trolling, because, nobody agrees with you, you respond to a rebutal with a random "im being bullyd because people are giving anwers back at me :cry:" or just play the "denial card" when Ironically its you in that situation.

and now you will go "Gamespot is PC fanboys" ... errr no. seen the different forum counts? PS3/Wii/360 forums are much more active.

So what now? .... "bullys :cry:" card ... or "lol whatever denial" card?

This thread is seriously degradding, comparing PC Gaming to Consoles is pathetic.

Phenom316

Why? I play all formats and to be honest, I don't find PC any better than consoles at all. Games on PC are not leaps and bounds ahead of anything on console as far as I am concerned.

PC games are held back by the fact that need to be able to run on fairly basic PC's as well as the powerful gaming rigs that the "elite" have. So apart from graphical touches, the core gameplay/game is the same.

Even the almighty "CRYSIS" isn't that amazing that it makes console gaming pale in significance

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Until the release of spore, I don't think I had seen an advert for a PC game on TV.

and spore is not quite a PC exclusive (according the the TV ad)

Wanderer5

It is PC exclusive at the moment. Spore DS is different and so is the mobile one.

Not according to the marketing

Spore is available on PC and DS apparently - not my words...theirs

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"][QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Until the release of spore, I don't think I had seen an advert for a PC game on TV.

and spore is not quite a PC exclusive (according the the TV ad)

angryfodder

It is PC exclusive at the moment. Spore DS is different and so is the mobile one.

Not according to the marketing

Spore is available on PC and DS apparently - not my words...theirs

Never tend to listen to adverts, they advertised the 360/PS3/PC versions of Kung Fu Panda ( you could tell by the graphics ) then only showed the Wii and DS boxes :P

Not according to the marketing

Spore is available on PC and DS apparently - not my words...theirs

angryfodder

>_> The DS one is different from the PC one.

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Not according to the marketing

Spore is available on PC and DS apparently - not my words...theirs

Wanderer5

The DS one is different from the PC one.

You know this, I know this...the guys that make, publish and sell the thing don't want to accept this though. So if they say its multiplat, who are we to disagree?

The charts and links I give are sound. And I can post my opinion in any thread that I want.

Even though that may be called trolling to you kiddo it's not to me or in the rules!;)

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"][QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Until the release of spore, I don't think I had seen an advert for a PC game on TV.

and spore is not quite a PC exclusive (according the the TV ad)

angryfodder

It is PC exclusive at the moment. Spore DS is different and so is the mobile one.

Not according to the marketing

Spore is available on PC and DS apparently - not my words...theirs

He meant that Spore on PC and DS are so different as to be considered different games altogether (superior version is obviously Spore PC). Unless you want to say that Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter should be considered multiplat, thereby taking away an AAAE from the 360.

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Typical, you couldnt rebut a point so you just spam trollish nonsense, another word you like to mis-use .... bullying... what the hell?.

How are you not suspended yet I dont know.

jasonheyman

LOL! The day I get suspended for stating facts and giving an opinion in a debate forum will be the day I would leave anyway! I make my points and here we go AGAIN with TROLLING! I have not put another user down! That is a first sign of trolling but what I've seen a lot of "hermits" are the true trollers and need to be moded.

Dude, honestly you try too hard. Everytime you state a fact you blow it out of proportian, this thread was a X360 vs the PC, and since that didnt go your way and Hermits owned you with facts, you pull out the the whole Console vs PC argument.

Please just stop with your fanboyish nonsense.

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"][QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Not according to the marketing

Spore is available on PC and DS apparently - not my words...theirs

angryfodder

The DS one is different from the PC one.

You know this, I know this...the guys that make, publish and sell the thing don't want to accept this though. So if they say its multiplat, who are we to disagree?

those are system wars rule ..... same with as how graw on 360 is considered exclusive

The charts and links I give are sound. And I can post my opinion in any thread that I want.

Even though that may be called trolling to you kiddo it's not to me or in the rules!;)

jasonheyman

What charts....

TC you serious? The PC can do everything a console can and do it better, it's just a matter if you have the intelligence to set it up. Higher standards on PC? Sorry that's a fact. Consoles just don't do it for me, most games are too simplistic and you don't have any options to mod your games and very limited control options compared to PC. Admit it TC you've never used a good gaming PC before and only have experience with consoles. Because if you had you wouldn't be looking like a fool in your post.

The charts and links I give are sound. And I can post my opinion in any thread that I want.

Even though that may be called trolling to you kiddo it's not to me or in the rules!;)

jasonheyman

sorry, but pc is the best : Official Current Gen AAAA, AAA and AA Game List* NO DISCUSSIONS! Don't want to use GS scores but want to use to Gamerankings, go to gamerankings then

[QUOTE="angryfodder"][QUOTE="Wanderer5"][QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Until the release of spore, I don't think I had seen an advert for a PC game on TV.

and spore is not quite a PC exclusive (according the the TV ad)

aliblabla2007

It is PC exclusive at the moment. Spore DS is different and so is the mobile one.

Not according to the marketing

Spore is available on PC and DS apparently - not my words...theirs

He meant that Spore on PC and DS are so different as to be considered different games altogether (superior version is obviously Spore PC). Unless you want to say that Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter should be considered multiplat, thereby taking away an AAAE from the 360.

ah ok - I didn't know that GS call spore an exclusive.

Quite rightly so though.

And although i've not played GRAW on PC, I assume its a mirror of the 360 version.....see i'd say that once it was released on PC it would no longer be an exclusive?

[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="angryfodder"][QUOTE="Wanderer5"][QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Until the release of spore, I don't think I had seen an advert for a PC game on TV.

and spore is not quite a PC exclusive (according the the TV ad)

angryfodder

It is PC exclusive at the moment. Spore DS is different and so is the mobile one.

Not according to the marketing

Spore is available on PC and DS apparently - not my words...theirs

He meant that Spore on PC and DS are so different as to be considered different games altogether (superior version is obviously Spore PC). Unless you want to say that Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter should be considered multiplat, thereby taking away an AAAE from the 360.

ah ok - I didn't know that GS call spore an exclusive.

Quite rightly so though.

And although i've not played GRAW on PC, I assume its a mirror of the 360 version.....see i'd say that once it was released on PC it would no longer be an exclusive?

GRAW has already been released on PC and is considered an exclusive for each platform (Xbox/PS2 versions are mirrors of each other) because the two versions are different.

Which I'm sure you already have and I'm just gettin crabbed at as usual..:roll:

jasonheyman

Hell the charts you posted show how strong PC gaming sales are..... against handheld and home consoles combined. Yikes.

Have you ever thought that you could be incorrect, resulting in entire threads devoted to large amounts of people 'crabbing' you? :?

skrat_01

lol - that reminds me of the time I started a thread about the keybaord and mouse being a rubbish method of control for FPS

Pretty much no one saw my point of view

But I still stand firm on it lol

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Have you ever thought that you could be incorrect, resulting in entire threads devoted to large amounts of people 'crabbing' you? :?

angryfodder

lol - that reminds me of the time I started a thread about the keybaord and mouse being a rubbish method of control for FPS

Pretty much no one saw my point of view

But I still stand firm on it lol

I can somewhat see a point with the keyboard, but your crazy if you think the mouse is rubbish :P

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Have you ever thought that you could be incorrect, resulting in entire threads devoted to large amounts of people 'crabbing' you? :?

angryfodder

lol - that reminds me of the time I started a thread about the keybaord and mouse being a rubbish method of control for FPS

Pretty much no one saw my point of view

But I still stand firm on it lol

Sure if you find it rubbish for FPS thats just fine.

Same with TC disliking PC gaming, thats just fine.

However then its pushed as if its the the opinion is the - to end all - facts - as this thread has been, just to try and make the PC seem bad.... TCs opinion being called a fact. Of course even posts against PC gaming... have actually proven otherwise.

Difference is it seems someone in particular cant separate their own opinion from everything else.

[QUOTE="angryfodder"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]Have you ever thought that you could be incorrect, resulting in entire threads devoted to large amounts of people 'crabbing' you? :?

skrat_01

lol - that reminds me of the time I started a thread about the keybaord and mouse being a rubbish method of control for FPS

Pretty much no one saw my point of view

But I still stand firm on it lol

Sure if you find it rubbish for FPS thats just fine.

Same with TC disliking PC gaming, thats just fine.

However then its pushed as if its the the opinion is the - to end all - facts - as this thread has been, just to try and make the PC seem bad.... TCs opinion being called a fact. Of course even posts against PC gaming... have actually proven otherwise.

Difference is it seems someone in particular cant separate their own opinion from everything else.

[QUOTE="angryfodder"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]Have you ever thought that you could be incorrect, resulting in entire threads devoted to large amounts of people 'crabbing' you? :?

PC360Wii

lol - that reminds me of the time I started a thread about the keybaord and mouse being a rubbish method of control for FPS

Pretty much no one saw my point of view

But I still stand firm on it lol

I can somewhat see a point with the keyboard, but your crazy if you think the mouse is rubbish :P

Well this is the thing, you have to be very careful on your exact wording in SW or people will pick you apart :)

It turns out that my real issue was/is just the keyboard

Buuuut.....they do kinda come as a pair....so???

Well this is the thing, you have to be very careful on your exact wording in SW or people will pick you apart :)

It turns out that my real issue was/is just the keyboard

Buuuut.....they do kinda come as a pair....so???

angryfodder

Yeah tell me about it! Almighty hermits, us console fans a debunked as dumb no matter what we say or do:roll:

It's rather sad:(

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]Well this is the thing, you have to be very careful on your exact wording in SW or people will pick you apart :)

It turns out that my real issue was/is just the keyboard

Buuuut.....they do kinda come as a pair....so???

jasonheyman

Yeah tell me about it! Almighty hermits, us console fans a debunked as dumb no matter what we say or do:roll:

It's rather sad:(

Nowhere have we said console fans are dumb. just your trolling.

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]Well this is the thing, you have to be very careful on your exact wording in SW or people will pick you apart :)

It turns out that my real issue was/is just the keyboard

Buuuut.....they do kinda come as a pair....so???

jasonheyman

Yeah tell me about it! Almighty hermits, us console fans a debunked as dumb no matter what we say or do:roll:

It's rather sad:(

EDIT on a serious note, I actually responded and "debunked" what you were saying. Rather than respond you complained about people debunking your arguements. I think the real problem is you're upset when people prove what you say is incorrect and rather than actual engage in debate you complain that consolites get picked on. This is why hermits are often tarred as elitest. They use facts to back up arguements, consolites try to smear with opinion and get mad when they get laughed at.

No maybe if the mods could keep up better this would be a better place to debate without all the childish remarks to other users!!:shock:jasonheyman

Yea and stop people making new accounts to troll a specific group of "fans". wouldnt that be great.

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]Well this is the thing, you have to be very careful on your exact wording in SW or people will pick you apart :)

It turns out that my real issue was/is just the keyboard

Buuuut.....they do kinda come as a pair....so???

jasonheyman

Yeah tell me about it! Almighty hermits, us console fans a debunked as dumb no matter what we say or do:roll:

It's rather sad:(

Its not just console fans. Its anyone. You just have to be very careful and sure of what you are saying when you start a topic.

PC fans with an over "elitist" point of view do annoy me a little sometimes.

No maybe if the mods could keep up better this would be a better place to debate without all the childish remarks to other users!!:shock:jasonheyman

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]No maybe if the mods could keep up better this would be a better place to debate without all the childish remarks to other users!!:shock:jasonheyman

Yea and stop people making new accounts to troll a specific group of "fans". wouldnt that be great.

I've had this account for years kiddo and your trolling me! You need to look that word up seriously!

Its funny how hermits miss all the console bashing threads lmao

A hand full of you are funny on here:lol:

So you have ( lol kiddo... ) , doesnt mean its your only account now does it? I remember the first time you started argueing with us and went on this long tantrum... you was on what 350ish posts?.

the winner doesn't have to be your favorite.

CaseyWegner

There is no official winner anymore, and that idiotic system will never go back into place. Does that bother you?

He can do it? I'm not stiring up trouble on purpose, its a side effect of what hes doing, a cycle... PC360Wii

Its not just console fans. Its anyone. You just have to be very careful and sure of what you are saying when you start a topic.

PC fans with an over "elitist" point of view do annoy me a little sometimes.

angryfodder

I know... I have never said PC gaming is dying to any of them yet those words get put in my mouth. I have given links and charts in other threads showing consoles are higher in retail sales right now. Software and hardware. I made a point about PC's and Piracy everything in that thread is uncreditable apperantly. And it all backed up my opinions,

Now this thread it was my bad if the TC made it to where 360 itself had more games than PC I thought it was software in general...

But still no excuse for peeps cryin and bein rude as usual....

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Its not just console fans. Its anyone. You just have to be very careful and sure of what you are saying when you start a topic.

PC fans with an over "elitist" point of view do annoy me a little sometimes.

jasonheyman

I know... I have never said PC gaming is dying to any of them yet those words get put in my mouth. I have given links and charts in other threads showing consoles are higher in retail sales right now. Software and hardware. I made a point about PC's and Piracy everything in that thread is uncreditable apperantly. And it all backed up my opinions,

Now this thread it was my bad if the TC made it to where 360 itself had more games than PC I thought it was software in general...

But still no excuse for peeps cryin and bein rude as usual....

1) Repost the Hardware ones.... because all you have given is Software.

2) the Chart shows 3 console and 2 handhels against the PC which is ridiculous.

I know, lets add up PC/PS3/Wii/DS/PSP against Xbox360 and see how that pans out :roll:.

You constantly deny that its pc vs 360 vs ps3 vs wii .....

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]No maybe if the mods could keep up better this would be a better place to debate without all the childish remarks to other users!!:shock:blue_hazy_basic

you realise that calling for people to be modded is in itself a violation of TOU? Once again you don't debate anything all you are trying to do is stir trouble

Oh good then the peep that said I should be suspended is in violation then! Good to know! Than it should be a violation to be called ignorant or put down in anyway you just keep digging your own holes;)

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]No maybe if the mods could keep up better this would be a better place to debate without all the childish remarks to other users!!:shock:jasonheyman

you realise that calling for people to be modded is in itself a violation of TOU? Once again you don't debate anything all you are trying to do is stir trouble

Oh good then the peep that said I should be suspended is in violation then! Good to know! Than it should be a violation to be called ignorant or put down in anyway you just keep digging your own holes;)

The victim card gets you nowhere. you came into this thread.

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]No maybe if the mods could keep up better this would be a better place to debate without all the childish remarks to other users!!:shock:jasonheyman

Yea and stop people making new accounts to troll a specific group of "fans". wouldnt that be great.

I've had this account for years kiddo and your trolling me! You need to look that word up seriously!

Its funny how hermits miss all the console bashing threads lmao

A hand full of you are funny on here:lol:

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]No maybe if the mods could keep up better this would be a better place to debate without all the childish remarks to other users!!:shock:jasonheyman

you realise that calling for people to be modded is in itself a violation of TOU? Once again you don't debate anything all you are trying to do is stir trouble

Oh good then the peep that said I should be suspended is in violation then! Good to know! Than it should be a violation to be called ignorant or put down in anyway you just keep digging your own holes;)

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]No maybe if the mods could keep up better this would be a better place to debate without all the childish remarks to other users!!:shock:PC360Wii

you realise that calling for people to be modded is in itself a violation of TOU? Once again you don't debate anything all you are trying to do is stir trouble

Oh good then the peep that said I should be suspended is in violation then! Good to know! Than it should be a violation to be called ignorant or put down in anyway you just keep digging your own holes;)

The victim card gets you nowhere. you came into this thread.

WOW! I went into a thread on a debate forum? Oh no! I can't give my opinion cause it offends you? lol Whatever. This has turned into childish blah 3 of you have done nothing but attack me for the past few posts your off topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]No maybe if the mods could keep up better this would be a better place to debate without all the childish remarks to other users!!:shock:jasonheyman

you realise that calling for people to be modded is in itself a violation of TOU? Once again you don't debate anything all you are trying to do is stir trouble

Oh good then the peep that said I should be suspended is in violation then! Good to know! Than it should be a violation to be called ignorant or put down in anyway you just keep digging your own holes;)

The victim card gets you nowhere. you came into this thread.

WOW! I went into a thread on a debate forum? Oh no! I can't give my opinion cause it offends you? lol Whatever. This has turned into childish blah 3 of you have done nothing but attack me for the past few posts your off topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Consoles vs PC wa sofftopic yet thats what you brought to this topic. I'd like to stamp Hypocrit to your forehead about now.

No one has called you ignorant, we've tried to debate (I'm still waiting for a reply from 2 pages ago where I pointed out the falws in your argument) , another poster posted the actual financial turnover and profits generated by PC's. You ignore these and instead have just complained about poeple debunking your arguments ever since. Maybe thats why people are reactiing the way they are?blue_hazy_basic

What's the point? I have charts saying that Hardware and Software favor consoles, but like I said before if the TC is saying 360 has more then PC im not sure about that.. I thought it was software in general....

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]No maybe if the mods could keep up better this would be a better place to debate without all the childish remarks to other users!!:shock:jasonheyman

you realise that calling for people to be modded is in itself a violation of TOU? Once again you don't debate anything all you are trying to do is stir trouble

Oh good then the peep that said I should be suspended is in violation then! Good to know! Than it should be a violation to be called ignorant or put down in anyway you just keep digging your own holes;)

The victim card gets you nowhere. you came into this thread.

WOW! I went into a thread on a debate forum? Oh no! I can't give my opinion cause it offends you? lol Whatever. This has turned into childish blah 3 of you have done nothing but attack me for the past few posts your off topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your posts have been nothing but useless. You haven't said anything USEFUL for this entire time.

You fail to give a proper debate, then you accuse people of attacking you all because your idiotic plan backfired on you.

You're acting more childish than anyone else in this thread.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] No one has called you ignorant, we've tried to debate (I'm still waiting for a reply from 2 pages ago where I pointed out the falws in your argument) , another poster posted the actual financial turnover and profits generated by PC's. You ignore these and instead have just complained about poeple debunking your arguments ever since. Maybe thats why people are reactiing the way they are?jasonheyman

What's the point? I have charts saying that Hardware and Software favor consoles, but like I said before if the TC is saying 360 has more then PC im not sure about that.. I thought it was software in general....

Again, wheres the Hardware Chart? Where are the software charts of the individual consoles other than all lumped together with handhelds too?.

Dont worry, im not expecting you to show me. I'm expenting another 2 liner "WOW im such a victim" response.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] No one has called you ignorant, we've tried to debate (I'm still waiting for a reply from 2 pages ago where I pointed out the falws in your argument) , another poster posted the actual financial turnover and profits generated by PC's. You ignore these and instead have just complained about poeple debunking your arguments ever since. Maybe thats why people are reactiing the way they are?jasonheyman

What's the point? I have charts saying that Hardware and Software favor consoles, but like I said before if the TC is saying 360 has more then PC im not sure about that.. I thought it was software in general....

Software? Go to the stickey on the front page and compare. I think you'll see who has the best games, or is it the sales game you are trying to play?

Ok it's like this at least 5 of you get offended and ticked off that I post a sound good argument against PC's and the gaming industry!

I HAVE post and givin all the charts and links to articles that back my points! And I WILL NOT get moded for posting my opinions and backing up statements

I AM NOT TROLLING I am posting FACT with my OPINIONS! No matter if any of you like it or not!

I HAVE SEEN time after time on these forums you peeps be rude name call just because you don't agree with someones opinion!

This is sad! Very sad! And if I am off subject it's due to the posts attacking me! I will stand up for myself and post my opinions in these debate forums like it or not this is SW you know lol