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#101  Edited By Shewgenja
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@BigBadBully: The ~30 million of you sure think they have it all figured out for the rest of us... Your mentality towards anything without an X on the plastic box is why you're becoming an echo chamber rather than a gaming super power. Please keep accepting mediocrity and soundbites while generation defining titles like Breath of the Wild or Horizon blow right past you.

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#102 BigBadBully
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@Shewgenja: thats what im saying, Horizon Zero Dawn and Zelda games are boring. Only reason i like xbox is because they focus on multiplayer and co-op. I dont care that their games arent graphical showcases with cinematic emotional gripping stories.

I just want to go online, race friends/randoms in Forza Horizon 3, co-op in Gears campaign or Horde. You can throw all the numbers you want but how you see MS First Party is how i see singleplayer games.

Id rather play socom 1-2 on ps2, twisted metal, motorstorm, mag, warhawk etc over any singleplayer game on Sony/MS/Nintendo.

Im not tied to xbox products, they just make the games i want to play. I would have a Ps4 if they offered the games i like from previous gens.

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#103 TryIt
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@BigBadBully said:

@Shewgenja: thats what im saying, Horizon Zero Dawn and Zelda games are boring. Only reason i like xbox is because they focus on multiplayer and co-op. I dont care that their games arent graphical showcases with cinematic emotional gripping stories.

I just want to go online, race friends/randoms in Forza Horizon 3, co-op in Gears campaign or Horde. You can throw all the numbers you want but how you see MS First Party is how i see singleplayer games.

Id rather play socom 1-2 on ps2, twisted metal, motorstorm, mag, warhawk etc over any singleplayer game on Sony/MS/Nintendo.

Im not tied to xbox products, they just make the games i want to play. I would have a Ps4 if they offered the games i like from previous gens.

I think your handle speaks volumes on this

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#104 jcrame10
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Microsoft just doesn’t have a lot of games to justify purchasing an Xbox one over PS4. I mean if you just take Xbox one vs PS4, the PS4 has gotten tons of games the last few years that Xbox has not. Xbox gamers miss out on way more titles than PS4 gamers too. In the last year there’s only been a handful of games that were available on Xbox but not playstation- halo wars 2, cuphead, forza Motorsport 7, super luckys tale. Coming up they only have a few titles as well- sea of thieves, crackdown 3, state of decay 2, ori 2, ashen.

Compare that to PS4- gravity rush 2, nier, nioh, horizon + dlc, uncharted dlc, Crash bandicoot trilogy, gran turismo, persona 5, god of war, spiderman, Detroit become human, days gone.

Even if you as a consumer hate all of these games you can’t deny it’s fact more choice is brought to PS4 players when it comes to games.

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#105 oflow
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@davillain-: the thing this forum constantly overlooks since most here dont play on Xbox is MS does have a pretty constant stream of games coming out. Even if they arent 'exclusives', if you dont have a PC they still are games playable on Xbox. MS released Forza 7, Cuphead, PUBG and Superlucky in Q4 last year. They released PoE and Conan Exiles in Q3. And Halo Wars 2 before that. (Contrary to this website and forums' opinion HW2 is actually a pretty solid game if you like RTS games)

Sea of Thieves, State of Decay 2, Crackdown 3 and Ori 2 are all coming this year.

Then theres still all the stuff they announced at E3 last year like Black Desert and DnL. It really boils down to personal taste. Cows will call them garbage just like I will meh at all the weeaboo stuff cows constantly cream over. I personally get more excited for the indie games coming than most of the AAAs anyway. Full Metal Furies is a better game than the bulk of the AAAs released in the last 6 months.

In that vein, games like Ashen, Ancestors Legacy, Ooblets, Riverbond, Osiris New Dawn, Darwin Project and Battlerite are all coming to Xbox this year too. Yeah they are all on PC too. But I dont play on PC so thats irrelevant to me and other Xbox fans that dont play on PC.

So comparatively, they really will have released close to the same number of 'big' titles as Sony in the last year since most of Sony's stuff last year after Q1 has just been announcements. Sure Ni-oh and HZD were wins for Sony, but a lot of the other stuff Sony dropped was mostly hyped by this forum and forgotten.

They might not bring games that suit this forums' tastes which is pretty heavy weighted with weeb/single player/Sony bias as far as bragging purposes goes, but the reality is most of the people here play the same multiplats the bulk of the time, and X1X is still the best place outside of PC to play multiplats. MS has done a pretty good job on the constant stream of Xbox Enhancements too so they are definitely winning on the multiplat front.

I think it really boils down to this forums' thirst for Sony-style, longterm overhype which MS doesnt do especially after Scalebound. So sure, they could probably use a couple of big name IPs to satiate the fans that like that style of hype. But this 'Xbox has no games' stuff needs a rest.

And on the new IP front they still have a Playground Games IP in development.




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#106 NathanDrakeSwag
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He's not deaf to it. He just doesn't get a blank check anymore because the higher ups at MS no longer care about Xbox.

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#107 DaVillain  Moderator
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@oflow said:

@davillain-: the thing this forum constantly overlooks since most here dont play on Xbox is MS does have a pretty constant stream of games coming out. Even if they arent 'exclusives', if you dont have a PC they still are games playable on Xbox. MS released Forza 7, Cuphead, PUBG and Superlucky in Q4 last year. They released PoE and Conan Exiles in Q3. And Halo Wars 2 before that. (Contrary to this website and forums' opinion HW2 is actually a pretty solid game if you like RTS games)

Sea of Thieves, State of Decay 2, Crackdown 3 and Ori 2 are all coming this year.

Then theres still all the stuff they announced at E3 last year like Black Desert and DnL. It really boils down to personal taste. Cows will call them garbage just like I will meh at all the weeaboo stuff cows constantly cream over. I personally get more excited for the indie games coming than most of the AAAs anyway. Full Metal Furies is a better game than the bulk of the AAAs released in the last 6 months.

In that vein, games like Ashen, Ancestors Legacy, Ooblets, Riverbond, Osiris New Dawn, Darwin Project and Battlerite are all coming to Xbox this year too. Yeah they are all on PC too. But I dont play on PC so thats irrelevant to me and other Xbox fans that dont play on PC.

So comparatively, they really will have released close to the same number of 'big' titles as Sony in the last year since most of Sony's stuff last year after Q1 has just been announcements. Sure Ni-oh and HZD were wins for Sony, but a lot of the other stuff Sony dropped was mostly hyped by this forum and forgotten.

They might not bring games that suit this forums' tastes which is pretty heavy weighted with weeb/single player/Sony bias as far as bragging purposes goes, but the reality is most of the people here play the same multiplats the bulk of the time, and X1X is still the best place outside of PC to play multiplats. MS has done a pretty good job on the constant stream of Xbox Enhancements too so they are definitely winning on the multiplat front.

I think it really boils down to this forums' thirst for Sony-style, longterm overhype which MS doesnt do especially after Scalebound. So sure, they could probably use a couple of big name IPs to satiate the fans that like that style of hype. But this 'Xbox has no games' stuff needs a rest.

And on the new IP front they still have a Playground Games IP in development.

Good points, even if Xbox gamers don't care for exclusive games, there's plenty of multiplats. I just think MS ran out of time investing more exclusive content games catering to none Xbox fans. We all know MS is working on a next-gen Xbox console as we speak, MS needs to start planing ahead of production and have new exclusive games ready to go. It work for Nintendo's Switch, they came well prepared and had use there time wisely. MS needs to take notes from Nintendo.

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#108  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@davillain- said:
@oflow said:

@davillain-: the thing this forum constantly overlooks since most here dont play on Xbox is MS does have a pretty constant stream of games coming out. Even if they arent 'exclusives', if you dont have a PC they still are games playable on Xbox. MS released Forza 7, Cuphead, PUBG and Superlucky in Q4 last year. They released PoE and Conan Exiles in Q3. And Halo Wars 2 before that. (Contrary to this website and forums' opinion HW2 is actually a pretty solid game if you like RTS games)

Sea of Thieves, State of Decay 2, Crackdown 3 and Ori 2 are all coming this year.

Then theres still all the stuff they announced at E3 last year like Black Desert and DnL. It really boils down to personal taste. Cows will call them garbage just like I will meh at all the weeaboo stuff cows constantly cream over. I personally get more excited for the indie games coming than most of the AAAs anyway. Full Metal Furies is a better game than the bulk of the AAAs released in the last 6 months.

In that vein, games like Ashen, Ancestors Legacy, Ooblets, Riverbond, Osiris New Dawn, Darwin Project and Battlerite are all coming to Xbox this year too. Yeah they are all on PC too. But I dont play on PC so thats irrelevant to me and other Xbox fans that dont play on PC.

So comparatively, they really will have released close to the same number of 'big' titles as Sony in the last year since most of Sony's stuff last year after Q1 has just been announcements. Sure Ni-oh and HZD were wins for Sony, but a lot of the other stuff Sony dropped was mostly hyped by this forum and forgotten.

They might not bring games that suit this forums' tastes which is pretty heavy weighted with weeb/single player/Sony bias as far as bragging purposes goes, but the reality is most of the people here play the same multiplats the bulk of the time, and X1X is still the best place outside of PC to play multiplats. MS has done a pretty good job on the constant stream of Xbox Enhancements too so they are definitely winning on the multiplat front.

I think it really boils down to this forums' thirst for Sony-style, longterm overhype which MS doesnt do especially after Scalebound. So sure, they could probably use a couple of big name IPs to satiate the fans that like that style of hype. But this 'Xbox has no games' stuff needs a rest.

And on the new IP front they still have a Playground Games IP in development.

Good points, even if Xbox gamers don't care for exclusive games, there's plenty of multiplats. I just think MS ran out of time investing more exclusive content games catering to none Xbox fans. We all know MS is working on a next-gen Xbox console as we speak, MS needs to start planing ahead of production and have new exclusive games ready to go. It work for Nintendo's Switch, they came well prepared and had use there time wisely. MS needs to take notes from Nintendo.

Here we go again...

Of course Xbox gamers "care for exclusive games"... and there are plenty of games on XB1 that aren't available on XB1's direct competition, PS4 & Switch.

I know the argument that "Xbox has no exclusives because they're on Win10 too" is very convenient for certain fanboys, but it's a dumb argument. Win10 PC is not a direct competitor to consoles. They are different machines for different markets. Consoles are dedicated game systems. PCs are not. Hence, when looking at the CONSOLE market, XB1 has heaps of exclusive games that aren't on its competition.

Anyway...

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Funny how you guys treat consoles like they were sports teams. How about a fantasy league?

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#110 blueinheaven
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@Pedro said:
@blueinheaven said:

You call out Shewgenja for talking a lot and saying nothing (you're wrong about that btw) and then you post this bullshit?

All the changes MS have made are important to one degree or another to Xbox owners this gen but mean nothing really in the great scheme of things. A game console needs games, not just multiplats, games that give it an identity. MS consoles have always had this. Until now.

The change you are talking about (giving all Xbox exclusives to PC) is a very bad change for the identity (or point?) of the console but it still leaves room for the laughable last ditch term 'console exclusive' and EVEN THAT is beyond MS outside of total garbage like Sea of Thieves and Crackdown 3 oh wait, are even the dregs such as these on PC too?

Whatever, you talk about your games console speaking of bluray devices and cloud and games that came out YEARS ago 'desperate' doesn't even begin to cover it dude.

Where the f*** is Halo 6 or Gears 5? Or any new IP? Spencer will do f*** all till the end of time because clowns like you bend over backwards to make excuses for him. 'Hey, he got rid of Kinect' yeah that must have been a fucking difficult decision to undertake....

@blueinheaven said:

"seems to have spent no time AT ALL arranging an exclusive AAA lineup."

"4 years and they have NOTHING!"

Now you are backpedalling from your initial statement. Make up your mind man. Which one is it? As I said to you before it cannot be both.

MS identity has always been Halo and Gears. Since when was MS the console of exclusivity and "unique" games? Don't pretend that it was something that it never was. "MS consoles have always had this. Until now." LOL.

Now you are silly enough to state

Where the f*** is Halo 6 or Gears 5? Or any new IP? Spencer will do f*** all till the end of time because clowns like you bend over backwards to make excuses for him. 'Hey, he got rid of Kinect' yeah that must have been a fucking difficult decision to undertake....

Halo 5 was in 2015, Gears 4 was in 2016, Ori was in 2015, Recore in 2016, Quantum Break in 2016 and Sea of Thieves in 2018. Now you can argue thats not enough but if you are bold enough to make rubbish questions and claims I don't think any amount of games on the Xbox would make a difference, you are too far gone on the extreme side of the discussion.

The madness is as chuckle friendly as "Scalebound looks like shit." the game gets canned "OMG MS sucks why they cancelled the only game I wanted when I was shitting on it prior to it being cancelled."

I hardly know where to start with this drivel. I already cited the Xbox 'exclusives' Sea of Thieves and Crapdown 3 as being a truly awful line up for Xbox One I didn't ignore their existence do you even fucking read the posts you are replying to? There is no back pedalling here I am saying Spencer has not a single AAA title lined up for his gaming console after four years and only a deluded fangirl like you would argue otherwise and no, Sea of Shit and Crapdown don't qualify in my opinion and the opinion of many others. Both look like they should be $5 indies.

I bought a PS3 and 360 last gen and both had TONS of exclusives. And I mean fucking tons. And it wasn't just console exclusives on 360 either it was 'proper' exclusives. To say Xbox was never about exclusives shows you are pig ignorant to the industry in general and have not a single fucking clue what you are talking about.

Xbox One is dead outside of multiplats and if you think Spencer is hiding all these big exclusives because he doesn't want to reveal them too soon ask yourself why the clown revealed all those shit 'exclusive' indie garbage titles at last E3.

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#111 BenjaminBanklin
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Since when is needing more content for your video game platform a meme?

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#112 stuff238
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The head honchos at Microsoft even laugh at the xbox one.

Phil: I need money to make games!

MS: Use the money from Xbox Ones Games Service.

Phil: But there is no games to play so no one is buying the service.

MS: Whatever Phil. I'm going to play some PS4 now. Wanna play?

Phil: Yeah sure.

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#113 hrt_rulz01
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@stuff238 said:

The head honchos at Microsoft even laugh at the xbox one.

Phil: I need money to make games!

MS: Use the money from Xbox Ones Games Service.

Phil: But there is no games to play so no one is buying the service.

MS: Whatever Phil. I'm going to play some PS4 now. Wanna play?

Phil: Yeah sure.

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#114 Pedro
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@blueinheaven said:
@Pedro said:
@blueinheaven said:

You call out Shewgenja for talking a lot and saying nothing (you're wrong about that btw) and then you post this bullshit?

All the changes MS have made are important to one degree or another to Xbox owners this gen but mean nothing really in the great scheme of things. A game console needs games, not just multiplats, games that give it an identity. MS consoles have always had this. Until now.

The change you are talking about (giving all Xbox exclusives to PC) is a very bad change for the identity (or point?) of the console but it still leaves room for the laughable last ditch term 'console exclusive' and EVEN THAT is beyond MS outside of total garbage like Sea of Thieves and Crackdown 3 oh wait, are even the dregs such as these on PC too?

Whatever, you talk about your games console speaking of bluray devices and cloud and games that came out YEARS ago 'desperate' doesn't even begin to cover it dude.

Where the f*** is Halo 6 or Gears 5? Or any new IP? Spencer will do f*** all till the end of time because clowns like you bend over backwards to make excuses for him. 'Hey, he got rid of Kinect' yeah that must have been a fucking difficult decision to undertake....

@blueinheaven said:

"seems to have spent no time AT ALL arranging an exclusive AAA lineup."

"4 years and they have NOTHING!"

Now you are backpedalling from your initial statement. Make up your mind man. Which one is it? As I said to you before it cannot be both.

MS identity has always been Halo and Gears. Since when was MS the console of exclusivity and "unique" games? Don't pretend that it was something that it never was. "MS consoles have always had this. Until now." LOL.

Now you are silly enough to state

Where the f*** is Halo 6 or Gears 5? Or any new IP? Spencer will do f*** all till the end of time because clowns like you bend over backwards to make excuses for him. 'Hey, he got rid of Kinect' yeah that must have been a fucking difficult decision to undertake....

Halo 5 was in 2015, Gears 4 was in 2016, Ori was in 2015, Recore in 2016, Quantum Break in 2016 and Sea of Thieves in 2018. Now you can argue thats not enough but if you are bold enough to make rubbish questions and claims I don't think any amount of games on the Xbox would make a difference, you are too far gone on the extreme side of the discussion.

The madness is as chuckle friendly as "Scalebound looks like shit." the game gets canned "OMG MS sucks why they cancelled the only game I wanted when I was shitting on it prior to it being cancelled."

I hardly know where to start with this drivel. I already cited the Xbox 'exclusives' Sea of Thieves and Crapdown 3 as being a truly awful line up for Xbox One I didn't ignore their existence do you even fucking read the posts you are replying to? There is no back pedalling here I am saying Spencer has not a single AAA title lined up for his gaming console after four years and only a deluded fangirl like you would argue otherwise and no, Sea of Shit and Crapdown don't qualify in my opinion and the opinion of many others. Both look like they should be $5 indies.

I bought a PS3 and 360 last gen and both had TONS of exclusives. And I mean fucking tons. And it wasn't just console exclusives on 360 either it was 'proper' exclusives. To say Xbox was never about exclusives shows you are pig ignorant to the industry in general and have not a single fucking clue what you are talking about.

Xbox One is dead outside of multiplats and if you think Spencer is hiding all these big exclusives because he doesn't want to reveal them too soon ask yourself why the clown revealed all those shit 'exclusive' indie garbage titles at last E3.

Oh no, looks like someone didn't read what they wrote, let me help you out buddy

....seems to have spent no time AT ALL arranging an exclusive AAA lineup.

Sea of Thieves and Crackdown 3 is a hilariously bad 'line-up' of exclusives for ANY system.

Thats you first stating that they spent no time at all arranging an exclusive line up then you followed that by pointing out two exclusives. It amazes me that you are incapable of spotting the irony of your own words. Keep track of the nonsense your write buddy. Read your post before clicking "Post Reply" otherwise you are making a fool of yourself.

Then in all of your glorious knowledge you re-iterated the same ill conceive comment, clearly displaying that you are still oblivious to the irony of your own statement.

And no the 360 did not have "tons of exclusives" it was the king of multiplatform games to which the PS4 took that crown early this gen with performance and dlc exclusives. Throwing around fucking doesn't make your stupid statement correct. Its time for you to sit this one out because its obvious that you are out of your league and your are only embarrassing yourself with every response.

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#115 blueinheaven
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@Pedro said:
@blueinheaven said:
@Pedro said:
@blueinheaven said:

You call out Shewgenja for talking a lot and saying nothing (you're wrong about that btw) and then you post this bullshit?

All the changes MS have made are important to one degree or another to Xbox owners this gen but mean nothing really in the great scheme of things. A game console needs games, not just multiplats, games that give it an identity. MS consoles have always had this. Until now.

The change you are talking about (giving all Xbox exclusives to PC) is a very bad change for the identity (or point?) of the console but it still leaves room for the laughable last ditch term 'console exclusive' and EVEN THAT is beyond MS outside of total garbage like Sea of Thieves and Crackdown 3 oh wait, are even the dregs such as these on PC too?

Whatever, you talk about your games console speaking of bluray devices and cloud and games that came out YEARS ago 'desperate' doesn't even begin to cover it dude.

Where the f*** is Halo 6 or Gears 5? Or any new IP? Spencer will do f*** all till the end of time because clowns like you bend over backwards to make excuses for him. 'Hey, he got rid of Kinect' yeah that must have been a fucking difficult decision to undertake....

@blueinheaven said:

"seems to have spent no time AT ALL arranging an exclusive AAA lineup."

"4 years and they have NOTHING!"

Now you are backpedalling from your initial statement. Make up your mind man. Which one is it? As I said to you before it cannot be both.

MS identity has always been Halo and Gears. Since when was MS the console of exclusivity and "unique" games? Don't pretend that it was something that it never was. "MS consoles have always had this. Until now." LOL.

Now you are silly enough to state

Where the f*** is Halo 6 or Gears 5? Or any new IP? Spencer will do f*** all till the end of time because clowns like you bend over backwards to make excuses for him. 'Hey, he got rid of Kinect' yeah that must have been a fucking difficult decision to undertake....

Halo 5 was in 2015, Gears 4 was in 2016, Ori was in 2015, Recore in 2016, Quantum Break in 2016 and Sea of Thieves in 2018. Now you can argue thats not enough but if you are bold enough to make rubbish questions and claims I don't think any amount of games on the Xbox would make a difference, you are too far gone on the extreme side of the discussion.

The madness is as chuckle friendly as "Scalebound looks like shit." the game gets canned "OMG MS sucks why they cancelled the only game I wanted when I was shitting on it prior to it being cancelled."

I hardly know where to start with this drivel. I already cited the Xbox 'exclusives' Sea of Thieves and Crapdown 3 as being a truly awful line up for Xbox One I didn't ignore their existence do you even fucking read the posts you are replying to? There is no back pedalling here I am saying Spencer has not a single AAA title lined up for his gaming console after four years and only a deluded fangirl like you would argue otherwise and no, Sea of Shit and Crapdown don't qualify in my opinion and the opinion of many others. Both look like they should be $5 indies.

I bought a PS3 and 360 last gen and both had TONS of exclusives. And I mean fucking tons. And it wasn't just console exclusives on 360 either it was 'proper' exclusives. To say Xbox was never about exclusives shows you are pig ignorant to the industry in general and have not a single fucking clue what you are talking about.

Xbox One is dead outside of multiplats and if you think Spencer is hiding all these big exclusives because he doesn't want to reveal them too soon ask yourself why the clown revealed all those shit 'exclusive' indie garbage titles at last E3.

Oh no, looks like someone didn't read what they wrote, let me help you out buddy

....seems to have spent no time AT ALL arranging an exclusive AAA lineup.

Sea of Thieves and Crackdown 3 is a hilariously bad 'line-up' of exclusives for ANY system.

Thats you first stating that they spent no time at all arranging an exclusive line up then you followed that by pointing out two exclusives. It amazes me that you are incapable of spotting the irony of your own words. Keep track of the nonsense your write buddy. Read your post before clicking "Post Reply" otherwise you are making a fool of yourself.

Then in all of your glorious knowledge you re-iterated the same ill conceive comment, clearly displaying that you are still oblivious to the irony of your own statement.

And no the 360 did not have "tons of exclusives" it was the king of multiplatform games to which the PS4 took that crown early this gen with performance and dlc exclusives. Throwing around fucking doesn't make your stupid statement correct. Its time for you to sit this one out because its obvious that you are out of your league and your are only embarrassing yourself with every response.

Are you really that dense or are you just pretending? I said AAA exclusives. BIG AAA exclusives, I didn't say they had NO exclusives. Please, please learn to read it will make this whole thing easier on you.

360 had slightly better performance for multiplats that did not make it 'king' of anything and it had countless BIG exclusives, just like PS3 did. That's why I bought a PS4 and Xbox One this gen, expecting a repeat. We all know how that played out. Well maybe you don't, since you seem completely clueless about just about everything.

Seriously little man, give it up, you're embarrassing yourself.

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#116 Pedro
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@blueinheaven said:

Are you really that dense or are you just pretending? I said AAA exclusives. BIG AAA exclusives, I didn't say they had NO exclusives. Please, please learn to read it will make this whole thing easier on you.

360 had slightly better performance for multiplats that did not make it 'king' of anything and it had countless BIG exclusives, just like PS3 did. That's why I bought a PS4 and Xbox One this gen, expecting a repeat. We all know how that played out. Well maybe you don't, since you seem completely clueless about just about everything.

Seriously little man, give it up, you're embarrassing yourself.

Now before we continue can you define AAA game?

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#117 blueinheaven
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@Pedro said:
@blueinheaven said:

Are you really that dense or are you just pretending? I said AAA exclusives. BIG AAA exclusives, I didn't say they had NO exclusives. Please, please learn to read it will make this whole thing easier on you.

360 had slightly better performance for multiplats that did not make it 'king' of anything and it had countless BIG exclusives, just like PS3 did. That's why I bought a PS4 and Xbox One this gen, expecting a repeat. We all know how that played out. Well maybe you don't, since you seem completely clueless about just about everything.

Seriously little man, give it up, you're embarrassing yourself.

Now before we continue can you define AAA game?

I would define it as big budget games eagerly awaited by the gaming public, often system sellers but always big news even if they turn out to be flops on arrival. For Sony - Uncharted 4, Persona 5, Nioh, Horizon, Nier etc for MS, Halo, Gears, Forza you know all this already I assume you are now going to make the point that the comedy duo of Sea of Thieves and Crackdown are BIG NEWS and eagerly awaited by some guy in South Korea lol.

The industry media have already defined AAA pretty much so your own definition (or mine) won't count for Jack shit, just a little FYI for you there, I'm fully aware you need all the help you can get.

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#118 Pedro
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@blueinheaven said:
@Pedro said:
@blueinheaven said:

Are you really that dense or are you just pretending? I said AAA exclusives. BIG AAA exclusives, I didn't say they had NO exclusives. Please, please learn to read it will make this whole thing easier on you.

360 had slightly better performance for multiplats that did not make it 'king' of anything and it had countless BIG exclusives, just like PS3 did. That's why I bought a PS4 and Xbox One this gen, expecting a repeat. We all know how that played out. Well maybe you don't, since you seem completely clueless about just about everything.

Seriously little man, give it up, you're embarrassing yourself.

Now before we continue can you define AAA game?

I would define it as big budget games eagerly awaited by the gaming public, often system sellers but always big news even if they turn out to be flops on arrival. For Sony - Uncharted 4, Persona 5, Nioh, Horizon, Nier etc for MS, Halo, Gears, Forza you know all this already I assume you are now going to make the point that the comedy duo of Sea of Thieves and Crackdown are BIG NEWS and eagerly awaited by some guy in South Korea lol.

The industry media have already defined AAA pretty much so your own definition (or mine) won't count for Jack shit, just a little FYI for you there, I'm fully aware you need all the help you can get.

Then share the industry defined definition of AAA since you correctly stated that your definition doesn't mean shit. Don't be afraid to post the "industry definition". After all your argument depends on it. Don't be afraid to backpedal again, I will understand. :)

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#119 blueinheaven
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@Pedro said:
@blueinheaven said:
@Pedro said:
@blueinheaven said:

Are you really that dense or are you just pretending? I said AAA exclusives. BIG AAA exclusives, I didn't say they had NO exclusives. Please, please learn to read it will make this whole thing easier on you.

360 had slightly better performance for multiplats that did not make it 'king' of anything and it had countless BIG exclusives, just like PS3 did. That's why I bought a PS4 and Xbox One this gen, expecting a repeat. We all know how that played out. Well maybe you don't, since you seem completely clueless about just about everything.

Seriously little man, give it up, you're embarrassing yourself.

Now before we continue can you define AAA game?

I would define it as big budget games eagerly awaited by the gaming public, often system sellers but always big news even if they turn out to be flops on arrival. For Sony - Uncharted 4, Persona 5, Nioh, Horizon, Nier etc for MS, Halo, Gears, Forza you know all this already I assume you are now going to make the point that the comedy duo of Sea of Thieves and Crackdown are BIG NEWS and eagerly awaited by some guy in South Korea lol.

The industry media have already defined AAA pretty much so your own definition (or mine) won't count for Jack shit, just a little FYI for you there, I'm fully aware you need all the help you can get.

Then share the industry defined definition of AAA since you correctly stated that your definition doesn't mean shit. Don't be afraid to post the "industry definition". After all your argument depends on it. Don't be afraid to backpedal again, I will understand. :)

My argument depends on nothing. You asked the question, it's not my fault if you don't know the established definition of AAA, just like you apparently didn't know Xbox had a HUGE amount of real exclusives last gen.

We're talking about system sellers here. I don't have time to talk about all the ones PS4 and PC already have and have incoming. Xbox, name one for this year or even next. I'll wait. ONE system seller, let's hear it. And stop congratulating yourself with lies about imaginary backpedaling it really is cringeworthy.

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#120 DaVillain  Moderator
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@Pedro: Upcoming exclusive Halo 6 isn't what you called AAA? It's MS highest budget around.

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#121  Edited By QuadKnight
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@davillain-: Dude is doing mental gymnastics to pretend he doesn’t know what blueinheaven is talking about when he mentions AAA exclusives. ? All this because MS hasn’t announced a single one for 2018.

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#122 hrt_rulz01
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@quadknight said:

@davillain-: Dude is doing mental gymnastics to pretend he doesn’t know what blueinheaven is talking about when he mentions AAA system sellers. ? All this because MS hasn’t announced a single one for 2018.

Can I ask you, do you & your pals actually get more enjoyment out of this system wars bullsh*t than actual gaming? Because it sure seems like it.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Since when is needing more content for your video game platform a meme?

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#124  Edited By cainetao11
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Lmao at that AAA definition. "big budget, eagerly awaited by the gaming public". Ok so how is Sea of Thieves not big budget? Do any of you SoT haters have a link to proof of It's budget? Right. And eagerly anticipated? Everyone I know on Live is eagerly awaiting it. I know you cows don't want it. All you guys want are teh dramas and feewings in SP games while paying Sony $60\year for mp which they don't give a shit about.

Well I for one am glad that on Live i get quality MP since I am paying for it. You can keep Penisona 5 and that drek, ill take Sea of Thieves with friends any day.

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#125  Edited By QuadKnight
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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@quadknight said:

@davillain-: Dude is doing mental gymnastics to pretend he doesn’t know what blueinheaven is talking about when he mentions AAA system sellers. ? All this because MS hasn’t announced a single one for 2018.

Can I ask you, do you & your pals actually get more enjoyment out of this system wars bullsh*t than actual gaming? Because it sure seems like it.

? Go look in the screenshot thread. I game all the time and post pics for games I play over there. My sig even has a list for all the games I’m currently playing and I update it regularly with new games. Just because you lems are easy to own with your logical fallacies doesn’t mean you have to come up with this butthurt response.

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#126  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@hrt_rulz01: Ohh but I do play games. Maybe you should look at my sig below and it'll tell ya what games I'm currently playing now.

@quadknight said:

@davillain-: Dude is doing mental gymnastics to pretend he doesn’t know what blueinheaven is talking about when he mentions AAA exclusives. ? All this because MS hasn’t announced a single one for 2018.

Which is why I even ask Pedro if Halo 6 isn't AAA high budet game and he's playing stupid as always.

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#127 hrt_rulz01
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@quadknight: Lol, your response says it all.

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#128 BigBadBully
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@cainetao11: yea, Sea of Thieves is blowing up on Twitch. Might be awhile before you see any AAA Sony 1P multiplayer game hit such a high note.

Skipped Ps4 this gen because its 1P multiplayer content is nowhere to be found.

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#129 hrt_rulz01
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@davillain-: I wasn't really referring to you. Mainly Quack and others.

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#130 DaVillain  Moderator
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@hrt_rulz01: My bad, I just got the notification from you.

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#131  Edited By QuadKnight
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

@quadknight: Lol, your response says it all.

Thanks for admitting you’ve been owned. You asked me a question and I responded with proof and your only response is “your response says it all”? ? What a fail.

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@cainetao11 said:

Lmao at that AAA definition. "big budget, eagerly awaited by the gaming public". Ok so how is Sea of Thieves not big budget? Do any of you SoT haters have a link to proof of It's budget? Right. And eagerly anticipated? Everyone I know on Live is eagerly awaiting it. I know you cows don't want it. All you guys want are teh dramas and feewings in SP games while paying Sony $60\year for mp which they don't give a shit about.

Well I for one am glad that on Live i get quality MP since I am paying for it. You can keep Penisona 5 and that drek, ill take Sea of Thieves with friends any day.

You need to take a back seat here we're talking about system sellers it's beyond your comprehension with your fanboy MS drivel. Nobody cares about sea of thieves it is not big news outside of being an okay game to look at for Xbox owners. The budget doesn't even matter since it looks like an half baked indie effort at best.

'Everyone I know on live' lol if only you had a real life to go with it eh? It's a nothing game for MS drones like you, ditto Crackdown which EVERYONE in the world is laughing at except you and your MS 'friends'.

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#133 hrt_rulz01
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@davillain-: No probs :)

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@blueinheaven said:

My argument depends on nothing. You asked the question, it's not my fault if you don't know the established definition of AAA, just like you apparently didn't know Xbox had a HUGE amount of real exclusives last gen.

We're talking about system sellers here. I don't have time to talk about all the ones PS4 and PC already have and have incoming. Xbox, name one for this year or even next. I'll wait. ONE system seller, let's hear it. And stop congratulating yourself with lies about imaginary backpedaling it really is cringeworthy.

System sellers does not make a game AAA. AAA games are determined by its budget. You are attempting to redefine what AAA to save your initial argument. So again, point to this industry standard in which AAA is determined by its system selling capabilities? Don't try to backpedal your way out it by sidetracking.

@davillain- said:

@Pedro: Upcoming exclusive Halo 6 isn't what you called AAA? It's MS highest budget around.

Who the hell made that claim or that argument?

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#135 Pedro
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@blueinheaven said:
@cainetao11 said:

Lmao at that AAA definition. "big budget, eagerly awaited by the gaming public". Ok so how is Sea of Thieves not big budget? Do any of you SoT haters have a link to proof of It's budget? Right. And eagerly anticipated? Everyone I know on Live is eagerly awaiting it. I know you cows don't want it. All you guys want are teh dramas and feewings in SP games while paying Sony $60\year for mp which they don't give a shit about.

Well I for one am glad that on Live i get quality MP since I am paying for it. You can keep Penisona 5 and that drek, ill take Sea of Thieves with friends any day.

You need to take a back seat here we're talking about system sellers it's beyond your comprehension with your fanboy MS drivel. Nobody cares about sea of thieves it is not big news outside of being an okay game to look at for Xbox owners. The budget doesn't even matter since it looks like an half baked indie effort at best.

'Everyone I know on live' lol if only you had a real life to go with it eh? It's a nothing game for MS drones like you, ditto Crackdown which EVERYONE in the world is laughing at except you and your MS 'friends'.

We are not talking about system sellers, you added that shit because I call you out on your self contradictory statement.

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@Pedro said:
@blueinheaven said:

My argument depends on nothing. You asked the question, it's not my fault if you don't know the established definition of AAA, just like you apparently didn't know Xbox had a HUGE amount of real exclusives last gen.

We're talking about system sellers here. I don't have time to talk about all the ones PS4 and PC already have and have incoming. Xbox, name one for this year or even next. I'll wait. ONE system seller, let's hear it. And stop congratulating yourself with lies about imaginary backpedaling it really is cringeworthy.

System sellers does not make a game AAA. AAA games are determined by its budget. You are attempting to redefine what AAA to save your initial argument. So again, point to this industry standard in which AAA is determined by its system selling capabilities? Don't try to backpedal your way out it by sidetracking.

Big budget AAA titles are usually the system sellers. You are going to continue to pretend you're completely stupid aren't you? That's your main tactic here.

Regardless, rival systems have countless AAA titles existing and on the way and MS has nothing. Even your own definition of AAA dumps both Sea of Shit and Crapdown out on the street on their arses.

You have nothing. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. I am at a loss now as to what you thought your original point was? What are you even arguing about? Are you just being a hilariously stupid fangirl like Cainetao? Are we going to be hearing God bless America from Pedro? LOLOL.

I am out. Play nice, boys and girls.

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#137 Pedro
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@blueinheaven said:
@Pedro said:
@blueinheaven said:

My argument depends on nothing. You asked the question, it's not my fault if you don't know the established definition of AAA, just like you apparently didn't know Xbox had a HUGE amount of real exclusives last gen.

We're talking about system sellers here. I don't have time to talk about all the ones PS4 and PC already have and have incoming. Xbox, name one for this year or even next. I'll wait. ONE system seller, let's hear it. And stop congratulating yourself with lies about imaginary backpedaling it really is cringeworthy.

System sellers does not make a game AAA. AAA games are determined by its budget. You are attempting to redefine what AAA to save your initial argument. So again, point to this industry standard in which AAA is determined by its system selling capabilities? Don't try to backpedal your way out it by sidetracking.

Big budget AAA titles are usually the system sellers. You are going to continue to pretend you're completely stupid aren't you? That's your main tactic here.

Regardless, rival systems have countless AAA titles existing and on the way and MS has nothing. Even your own definition of AAA dumps both Sea of Shit and Crapdown out on the street on their arses.

You have nothing. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. I am at a loss now as to what you thought your original point was? What are you even arguing about? Are you just being a hilariously stupid fangirl like Cainetao? Are we going to be hearing God bless America from Pedro? LOLOL.

I am out. Play nice, boys and girls.

AAA again is NOT classified by whether or not a game sells systems. That's the bullshit you added again to save face and to avoid your error. Find ANY credible source that will back that bullshit definition so, take your own advise and avoid the meandering and stop acting stupid.

Sea of Thieves and Crackdown 3 are classified as AAA games in the same way that Doom, Fallout 3, Assassin Creed etc are.

Always remember you opinion of a game doesn't determine whether or not a game is AAA.

Oh, the original point was simple, you were simply talking out of your ass like most of the Sony fannies on the board. You stated it has no exclusive AAA (to which I reminded you that they never will have exclusive XPA but you continued) then followed that up by listing two AAA games. Again your opinion on the game does not removes its AAA status.

You said "4 years and they have NOTHING!". They now have the fastest console on the market and have released multiple new IPs within those four years (Ori, Ryse, Sunset Overdrive, Recore, Quantum Break) in addition to their stale IPs Halo 5, Forza, and Gears. So these claims that MS has nothing and not investing in games is factually false especially when millions were wasted on two cancelled games Fable Legends and Scalebound. Which would have been hated on in the same manner that most of their previous exclusive IPs has been hated on especially but the folks who haven't played them.

Not liking the Xbox and hating the brand does not equal to any of the bullshit you and your drones have been posting. Don't hate me for pointing out the obvious.

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#138  Edited By Ant_17
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@scatteh316 said:

He's had years to sort this out.... so this is just pure damage control.

This.

4 years this meme has run and all they did was buy Minecraft.

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#139 Open_Lane
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They should consider developing a mascot.

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#140 Pedro
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@open_lane said:

They should consider developing a mascot.

Mascot works for Nintendo but I don't think MS and Sony can benefit from that due to the market they typically carter for.

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#141 cainetao11
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@BigBadBully: I'm in the shop, until 10. I'm jumping on tonight when I get home. I was in the alpha since February and it's just so fun. It requires egos put aside and coordinated team work and I dig that.

I dig my PS sp games though, I won't lie. Nioh was a GOTY contender for me. PS delivers, no doubt. Just no sense paying Sony for something they don't care about by their own admission.

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#142 cainetao11
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@Pedro: You said "4 years and they have NOTHING!". They now have the fastest console on the market and have released multiple new IPs within those four years (Ori, Ryse, Sunset Overdrive, Recore, Quantum Break) in addition to their stale IPs Halo 5, Forza, and Gears. So these claims that MS has nothing and not investing in games is factually false especially when millions were wasted on two cancelled games Fable Legends and Scalebound. Which would have been hated on in the same manner that most of their previous exclusive IPs has been hated on especially but the folks who haven't played them"

So perfectly said. They have brought new ips to market. They didn't light the world on fire but that doesn't mean Spencer hasn't tried. People need to remember that Xbox doesn't have the benefit of an insular and loyal population. Americans be they Devs or consumers are only patriotic about pictures of military personnel, African American athletes taking a knee during the anthem, and the freedom to own an Assault rifle. So devs located here will not exclusively support Xbox the way Japanese ones do PS.

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#143  Edited By cainetao11
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@blueinheaven: I don't need to do anything because you shit sure won't do anything, keyboard warrior.

You're sad as fvck dude, needing a game to wanted by others for you to want to play it. "oh no!! The whole world will laugh at a game?!!!" Your mother raised a punk-bitch.

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#144  Edited By cainetao11
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@Pedro: Let that bitch be, dude. Look at the things he thinks are important: "nobody is talking about sea of thieves; the whole world is laughing at crackdown 3".

Who in the actual fvck is that insecure? Needing other people to like what he likes? My mom raised me to be my own man not follow the herd.

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@Pedro: it doesn’t need to be kid oriented necesserily (although that would be ok with me), I think it would give some sense of identity

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#147 pdogg93
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Wow look at the reactions from lems like @cainetao11 and floppage. It’s like they have battered wife syndrome or ptsd and are getting triggered.

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#148 cainetao11
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@pdogg93: What about me? That wuss told me I need to do something. I don't do that to anyone here. His argument was rekt so he started moving goal posts and talking about what pop culture wants. What's that got to do with me, you, Getyeryayasout or Vladimir Putin's wanted games? You guys suck that popular opinion dick because you have no backbone.

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#149 DrRollinstein
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This is the biggest circle jerk of Ps4 fanboys i've ever seen. Rather impressive i'd say.

That game pass announcement must really be burning them up.

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#150 Pedro
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@open_lane said:

@Pedro: it doesn’t need to be kid oriented necesserily (although that would be ok with me), I think it would give some sense of identity

Well MC is use as mascot but I am still not sure a mascot would help but I can be wrong.