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#151 GameboyTroy
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@drrollinstein: I don't know what to say about that game pass announcement.

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#152  Edited By GamiMaze
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The whole Xbox has no games argument is dumb because it has 95% of the same games that the PS4 has except they run better on the X, are on a better online service and are played with a better controller. Yeah the exclusives are obviously lacking but to be honest I only buy maybe 3-4 games a year for PS4 so I don't get as much use as I do my XB1

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#153 GameboyTroy
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@gamimaze: I don't think you're allowed to use the r word.

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#154 BenjaminBanklin
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@cainetao11 said:

Lmao at that AAA definition. "big budget, eagerly awaited by the gaming public". Ok so how is Sea of Thieves not big budget? Do any of you SoT haters have a link to proof of It's budget? Right. And eagerly anticipated? Everyone I know on Live is eagerly awaiting it. I know you cows don't want it. All you guys want are teh dramas and feewings in SP games while paying Sony $60\year for mp which they don't give a shit about.

Well I for one am glad that on Live i get quality MP since I am paying for it. You can keep Penisona 5 and that drek, ill take Sea of Thieves with friends any day.

Oh god, don't tell me you're going to be hanging on to Sea of Thieves as BEST EXCLUSIVE OF THIS GEN just to spite every other game in existence. This is what starvation sounds like. I can see people enjoying Sea of Thieves, maybe. But, if you think that game alone comes anywhere near justifying the purchase of either Xbox console for the unwashed masses, you are grossly mistaken.

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#155 SecretPolice
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@cainetao11 said:

Lmao at that AAA definition. "big budget, eagerly awaited by the gaming public". Ok so how is Sea of Thieves not big budget? Do any of you SoT haters have a link to proof of It's budget? Right. And eagerly anticipated? Everyone I know on Live is eagerly awaiting it. I know you cows don't want it. All you guys want are teh dramas and feewings in SP games while paying Sony $60\year for mp which they don't give a shit about.

Well I for one am glad that on Live i get quality MP since I am paying for it. You can keep Penisona 5 and that drek, ill take Sea of Thieves with friends any day.

AwesomeSauce Yuuge budget AAAA Rare's Sea of Thieves >>>>>>>>> Wii-A-Moos next.... Tales of Ballbagia. lololol :P

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#156 The-A-Baum
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With the crazy media bias it must be hard to keep track over in Redmond WA. First 3 years when Sony admitted they had very few exclusives it was all about Power, Which in retrospect was minimal. Xbox had some really great exclusives early on like Titanfall, Ryse, SunsetOverdrive, etc. All Sony had was 3rd party Bloodborn. MS makes the most powerful console and Sony finally Releases games and gets lots of 3rd party Japanese help for free, and it's all about games now.

The narrative keeps changing in Sony's favor at every turn. I guarantee you next time Xbox has a great announcement Sony will announce Sales numbers, also next time something negative about Sony comes out they will announce sales numbers and media sites will all eat it up. Especially this one.

The games will be coming soon I am not worried, as long as MS keeps on this current pro consumer train.

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#157 hrt_rulz01
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@the-a-baum said:

With the crazy media bias it must be hard to keep track over in Redmond WA. First 3 years when Sony admitted they had very few exclusives it was all about Power, Which in retrospect was minimal. Xbox had some really great exclusives early on like Titanfall, Ryse, SunsetOverdrive, etc. All Sony had was 3rd party Bloodborn. MS makes the most powerful console and Sony finally Releases games and gets lots of 3rd party Japanese help for free, and it's all about games now.

The narrative keeps changing in Sony's favor at every turn. I guarantee you next time Xbox has a great announcement Sony will announce Sales numbers, also next time something negative about Sony comes out they will announce sales numbers and media sites will all eat it up. Especially this one.

The games will be coming soon I am not worried, as long as MS keeps on this current pro consumer train.

Yep... exactly. Well said.

And in 3, 2, 1:

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#158 cainetao11
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@cainetao11 said:

Lmao at that AAA definition. "big budget, eagerly awaited by the gaming public". Ok so how is Sea of Thieves not big budget? Do any of you SoT haters have a link to proof of It's budget? Right. And eagerly anticipated? Everyone I know on Live is eagerly awaiting it. I know you cows don't want it. All you guys want are teh dramas and feewings in SP games while paying Sony $60\year for mp which they don't give a shit about.

Well I for one am glad that on Live i get quality MP since I am paying for it. You can keep Penisona 5 and that drek, ill take Sea of Thieves with friends any day.

Oh god, don't tell me you're going to be hanging on to Sea of Thieves as BEST EXCLUSIVE OF THIS GEN just to spite every other game in existence. This is what starvation sounds like. I can see people enjoying Sea of Thieves, maybe. But, if you think that game alone comes anywhere near justifying the purchase of either Xbox console for the unwashed masses, you are grossly mistaken.

YOU said that, not me. I don't hang on to anything. I know I like playing games and if I am paying a company $60/year for MP I'd like that company to at least give a bit of a shit for MP. Shawn Layden told Greg Miller they basically do not. And its A ok to cows. LMAO Talk about double standards.

As far as justifying a purchase, all I ever need to do that is "I want it". More and more on SW I see a bunch of pu$$ies. Why does anyone have to justify anything in their life to anyone else? Who raised you people? Poppa Smurf?

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#159 NoodleFighter
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@davillain-:

Then theres still all the stuff they announced at E3 last year like Black Desert and DnL. It really boils down to personal taste. Cows will call them garbage just like I will meh at all the weeaboo stuff cows constantly cream over. I personally get more excited for the indie games coming than most of the AAAs anyway. Full Metal Furies is a better game than the bulk of the AAAs released in the last 6 months.

Are you telling me the Korean MMO with characters that look like Asian super models isn't weeby at all?

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#160  Edited By cainetao11
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@SecretPolice said:
@cainetao11 said:

Lmao at that AAA definition. "big budget, eagerly awaited by the gaming public". Ok so how is Sea of Thieves not big budget? Do any of you SoT haters have a link to proof of It's budget? Right. And eagerly anticipated? Everyone I know on Live is eagerly awaiting it. I know you cows don't want it. All you guys want are teh dramas and feewings in SP games while paying Sony $60\year for mp which they don't give a shit about.

Well I for one am glad that on Live i get quality MP since I am paying for it. You can keep Penisona 5 and that drek, ill take Sea of Thieves with friends any day.

AwesomeSauce Yuuge budget AAAA Rare's Sea of Thieves >>>>>>>>> Wii-A-Moos next.... Tales of Ballbagia. lololol :P

Dude this younger generation are babies. "Justify buying an Xbox"? Why would I or anyone need to justify what is purchased? When I want something, and I can afford it, I fvckin buy it. LMAO God of TLOU shit sure doesn't justify a PS4 to me. A 10-15 hour campaign and then what? With the combat they have shown? Ninja Gaiden Black it is not. I'll take the ever evolving world and gameplay of Sea of Thieves with living human beings over a one and done any day.

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#161  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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@NoodleFighter said:
@oflow said:

@davillain-:

Then theres still all the stuff they announced at E3 last year like Black Desert and DnL. It really boils down to personal taste. Cows will call them garbage just like I will meh at all the weeaboo stuff cows constantly cream over. I personally get more excited for the indie games coming than most of the AAAs anyway. Full Metal Furies is a better game than the bulk of the AAAs released in the last 6 months.

Are you telling me the Korean MMO with characters that look like Asian super models isn't weeby at all?

Xbox gaming is about moving goalposts, you see. It can't be weeby if it's Korean, plus God Emperor Phil Spencer blessed it with his buttcheeks so it's okay to put it in Xbox list wars.

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#162 NoodleFighter
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@BenjaminBanklin: I love how Xbox gamers this gen are using MMOs, MOBAs, RTS, Indies, Early Access games and etc as ammo yet when its PC these things don't count or matter to most gamers.

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@NoodleFighter said:
@oflow said:

@davillain-:

Then theres still all the stuff they announced at E3 last year like Black Desert and DnL. It really boils down to personal taste. Cows will call them garbage just like I will meh at all the weeaboo stuff cows constantly cream over. I personally get more excited for the indie games coming than most of the AAAs anyway. Full Metal Furies is a better game than the bulk of the AAAs released in the last 6 months.

Are you telling me the Korean MMO with characters that look like Asian super models isn't weeby at all?

lol rekt. Lem hypocrisy exposed!

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#164  Edited By LuxuryHeart
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@cainetao11 said:

@Pedro: You said "4 years and they have NOTHING!". They now have the fastest console on the market and have released multiple new IPs within those four years (Ori, Ryse, Sunset Overdrive, Recore, Quantum Break) in addition to their stale IPs Halo 5, Forza, and Gears. So these claims that MS has nothing and not investing in games is factually false especially when millions were wasted on two cancelled games Fable Legends and Scalebound. Which would have been hated on in the same manner that most of their previous exclusive IPs has been hated on especially but the folks who haven't played them"

So perfectly said. They have brought new ips to market. They didn't light the world on fire but that doesn't mean Spencer hasn't tried. People need to remember that Xbox doesn't have the benefit of an insular and loyal population. Americans be they Devs or consumers are only patriotic about pictures of military personnel, African American athletes taking a knee during the anthem, and the freedom to own an Assault rifle. So devs located here will not exclusively support Xbox the way Japanese ones do PS.

I would argue that Western Devs are loyal to Xbox. Even when they were flopping in their first year, they were still getting games.

Also, you don't need to have other companies, that are established, to make a great game. If Microsoft were smart, they would buy a few small/medium studios to make exclusives for their console. If they don't buy a studio, pay and partner with one to make an exclusive game for your system. So many indie studios out that don't cost much, no excuse to not have exclusives.

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Going back to this thread to laugh at the denial. Xbox does need more exclusives, even Phil Spencer knows that, yet they're still trying to deny it. LMAO!

Sony/Nintendo/PC gamers: Xbox needs more exclusives

Casual gamers: Xbox needs more exclusives

Phil Spencer: Xbox needs more exclusives

God: Xbox needs more exclusives

Xbox fanboys:

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#166  Edited By cainetao11
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@luxuryheart: And they have as he listed. But the bottom line is Japanese devs will put a game on PS4 without need of a deal with Sony and ignore Xbox.

Please link me to the games that flopped in their first year and define your use of flop. Is it sales? SW hype game? What western dev purposely developed for only for Xbox without a deal with MS?

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#167  Edited By QuadKnight
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@luxuryheart said:

Going back to this thread to laugh at the denial. Xbox does need more exclusives, even Phil Spencer knows that, yet they're still trying to deny it. LMAO!

Sony/Nintendo/PC gamers: Xbox needs more exclusives

Casual gamers: Xbox needs more exclusives

Phil Spencer: Xbox needs more exclusives

God: Xbox needs more exclusives

Xbox fanboys:

You nailed it lol. Lemmings are in full blown denial about the Xbone situation.

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@luxuryheart: I don't think it's odd that Xbox owners feel like they are doing ok without exclusives. Just take the system wars mask for a second and think about it. The Xbox has enough games to keep a player busy, from a user perspective they have their gaming needs fulfilled.

Still MS as a business is stupid if ignores all the non-xbox people complaining about the lack of exclusives, because those are all the potential costumers that don't see a reason to give them money. Except for PC gamers, MS has little to gain in returning to full console exclusives. Money is made by selling games, not consoles.

They need to up their 1st party games if they want to grow their business in both PC and consoles. But, again, for an Xbox owner it's kind of irrelevant with so much available games.

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#169 LuxuryHeart
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@luxuryheart: I don't think it's odd that Xbox owners feel like they are doing ok without exclusives. Just take the system wars mask for a second and think about it. The Xbox has enough games to keep a player busy, from a user perspective they have their gaming needs fulfilled.

Still MS as a business is stupid if ignores all the non-xbox people complaining about the lack of exclusives, because those are all the potential costumers that don't see a reason to give them money. Except for PC gamers, MS has little to gain in returning to full console exclusives. Money is made by selling games, not consoles.

They need to up their 1st party games if they want to grow their business in both PC and consoles. But, again, for an Xbox owner it's kind of irrelevant with so much available games.

They're used to it and denial due to shame. As of now, they're used to not having that many good exclusives, so they may be desensitized to it. It could also be shame and embarrassment. You bought a system that's the laughing stock. I do get it, since I have a Wii U. At the same time, Microsoft should be supporting the Xbox One, even if they're going to pull a Nintendo and port Xbox One exclusives to the next gen console. Why are Xbox fans not seeing how this is a problem? Microsoft not being able to make games is a crappy excuse since Sony manages to snatch up exclusives, and I don't remember them making any games. If worse comes to worst, they can buy a few studios.

Microsoft hears us, but Phil Spencer is not doing a good job. I gave him a few excuses since he inherited the Xbox One from Don Mattrick, and he was doing decently at first. Now he's stagnating and not making any moves. He's just throwing stuff out there and hope it does well which is not a good strategy.

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@luxuryheart said:

Going back to this thread to laugh at the denial. Xbox does need more exclusives, even Phil Spencer knows that, yet they're still trying to deny it. LMAO!

Sony/Nintendo/PC gamers: Xbox needs more exclusives

Casual gamers: Xbox needs more exclusives

Phil Spencer: Xbox needs more exclusives

God: Xbox needs more exclusives

Xbox fanboys:

Sounds about right. If Phil was smart, he wouldn't need to say nothing at all.

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@Pedro said:
@blueinheaven said:
@Pedro said:
@blueinheaven said:

My argument depends on nothing. You asked the question, it's not my fault if you don't know the established definition of AAA, just like you apparently didn't know Xbox had a HUGE amount of real exclusives last gen.

We're talking about system sellers here. I don't have time to talk about all the ones PS4 and PC already have and have incoming. Xbox, name one for this year or even next. I'll wait. ONE system seller, let's hear it. And stop congratulating yourself with lies about imaginary backpedaling it really is cringeworthy.

System sellers does not make a game AAA. AAA games are determined by its budget. You are attempting to redefine what AAA to save your initial argument. So again, point to this industry standard in which AAA is determined by its system selling capabilities? Don't try to backpedal your way out it by sidetracking.

Big budget AAA titles are usually the system sellers. You are going to continue to pretend you're completely stupid aren't you? That's your main tactic here.

Regardless, rival systems have countless AAA titles existing and on the way and MS has nothing. Even your own definition of AAA dumps both Sea of Shit and Crapdown out on the street on their arses.

You have nothing. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. I am at a loss now as to what you thought your original point was? What are you even arguing about? Are you just being a hilariously stupid fangirl like Cainetao? Are we going to be hearing God bless America from Pedro? LOLOL.

I am out. Play nice, boys and girls.

AAA again is NOT classified by whether or not a game sells systems. That's the bullshit you added again to save face and to avoid your error. Find ANY credible source that will back that bullshit definition so, take your own advise and avoid the meandering and stop acting stupid.

Sea of Thieves and Crackdown 3 are classified as AAA games in the same way that Doom, Fallout 3, Assassin Creed etc are.

Always remember you opinion of a game doesn't determine whether or not a game is AAA.

Oh, the original point was simple, you were simply talking out of your ass like most of the Sony fannies on the board. You stated it has no exclusive AAA (to which I reminded you that they never will have exclusive XPA but you continued) then followed that up by listing two AAA games. Again your opinion on the game does not removes its AAA status.

You said "4 years and they have NOTHING!". They now have the fastest console on the market and have released multiple new IPs within those four years (Ori, Ryse, Sunset Overdrive, Recore, Quantum Break) in addition to their stale IPs Halo 5, Forza, and Gears. So these claims that MS has nothing and not investing in games is factually false especially when millions were wasted on two cancelled games Fable Legends and Scalebound. Which would have been hated on in the same manner that most of their previous exclusive IPs has been hated on especially but the folks who haven't played them.

Not liking the Xbox and hating the brand does not equal to any of the bullshit you and your drones have been posting. Don't hate me for pointing out the obvious.

Why are you still banging on about AAA titles not having to be system sellers? They don't have to be, I simply said they typically are: Halo for Xbox, Uncharted for Sony etc, AAA multiplats are obviously the same on both systems. Why am I having to explain this for you? Something seems to have happened to the quality of your posts have you had a bang on the head recently? It's almost as though someone else is standing in for you, someone who has not a single clue about anything to do with videogames.

Now you are claiming Sea of Thieves and Crackdown are AAA putting them in the same league as Doom, Fallout, AC etc LOLOLOL you utter clown! One is a completely unknown quantity, an unproven new IP with last gen graphics and the other is a pig ugly broken mess that keeps getting delayed.

You are welcome to your very own definition of AAA which is completely at odds with the accepted term but don't expect anyone but Xbot clowns to agree with you.

4 years and they have nothing I am talking about games. I asked you before to tell me what their big releases are for 2018, I'm still waiting. Games are what a games console is all about and all MS have is multiplats that are better on PC anyway. Piss poor effort from fatboy Phil.

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#173 BenjaminBanklin
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@luxuryheart said:

Going back to this thread to laugh at the denial. Xbox does need more exclusives, even Phil Spencer knows that, yet they're still trying to deny it. LMAO!

Sony/Nintendo/PC gamers: Xbox needs more exclusives

Casual gamers: Xbox needs more exclusives

Phil Spencer: Xbox needs more exclusives

God: Xbox needs more exclusives

Xbox fanboys:

I can not think of a more apt representation of the situation.

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#174 GamiMaze
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@blueinheaven: Doom and Fallout fkn sucked though