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#102  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@Shewgenja said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

I prefer that they wait to announce stuff until it's closer to being ready... I hate it how Sony announces shit years in advance. It's stupid. I mean don't get me wrong, it's smart from a PR perspective, but I think it's ridiculous to announce games years before release... like LOU2. That game will be lucky to come out before 2019.

So, you want all your games to launch like the MasterChief Collection because being on schedule is more important than working?

Riddle me this. Riddle me that.

Where did he say anything about games being released on schedule/broken? he said he would rather games getting announced when they are close to being ready.

He's right look at Death Stranding, FF7 Remake, Shenmue 3 for just 3 examples. Sony announced them a while back and they are nowhere to be seen, in 2yrs no gameplay has been shown, so we know these games are at the least another 2yrs away. Why announce something that is 3-4yrs away, it's stupid, but hey enjoy the wait lol.

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#103 Telekill
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Tomb Raider 3 confirmed X1X timed exclusive.

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@i_p_daily: Bugs found in pre-release QA have been known to cause rewrites on majority prtions of game code. This isn't like baking a cake where if you take it out a little early it's gooey and a little bit shit.

Making a game is like following the instructions like biblical truth but turning on the light a few seconds before it should be done to see the eggs and flour seperates themselves from the mix entirely and the chicken that laid the egg miraculously got in there to make thinga more weird.

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@i_p_daily: Yep, my point exactly.

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@Shewgenja said:

@i_p_daily: Bugs found in pre-release QA have been known to cause rewrites on majority prtions of game code. This isn't like baking a cake where if you take it out a little early it's gooey and a little bit shit.

Making a game is like following the instructions like biblical truth but turning on the light a few seconds before it should be done to see the eggs and flour seperates themselves from the mix entirely and the chicken that laid the egg miraculously got in there to make thinga more weird.

You know, I read what i_p says and then I read your response and I'm like wtf, are you actually understanding what he's saying because your response don't show it.

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@Shewgenja said:

@i_p_daily: Bugs found in pre-release QA have been known to cause rewrites on majority prtions of game code. This isn't like baking a cake where if you take it out a little early it's gooey and a little bit shit.

Making a game is like following the instructions like biblical truth but turning on the light a few seconds before it should be done to see the eggs and flour seperates themselves from the mix entirely and the chicken that laid the egg miraculously got in there to make thinga more weird.

I agree that you don't know what you are talking about.

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#108  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@Shewgenja said:

@hrt_rulz01: This Narnia Wonderland yourself and the Lemmings have created where games development is bereft of creative direction changes, bug testing, game engine revisions, optimization, more bug testing, version control, then quality assurance (that must mystically go 100% perfectly every time a game is about to go gold).

Videogames can be massively difficult to release, let alone at some arbitrary time point after a major press conference. You guys have been dead wrong on the subject all gen long.

No seriously, What the Fucks are you talking about?!

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Like i said before. Phil Spencer is the dumbest idiot American!! to run Xbone. This guy is the reason Xbone is drowning. No games besides crap like Halo Bores 2 & Crackdown 3 which looks like a X360 game with gameplay stuck there LOL. Wat a joke. Cuphead took 4 years to freaking come out & thats just a indie. Another damn Forza which has NO hype compared to FH3. Phil Spencer is ALL talk & no show

All Xbone has had was SAME 3 games ALL gen just like Don Mattrick. At least Don Mattrick gave us Perfect Dark Remake, Perfect Dark Zero 2005, Banjo, Killer Instinct 2013, Dead Rising 3( NEVER went to PS4) Max Curse of brotherhood etc etc & bunch of other games i missed. Phil Spencer??? Wheres Sunset 2? Wheres Ryse 2? Wheres Scalebound? Wheres Fable ? Where Perfect Dark Sequel? Wheres Kameo 2?? etc etc.

All Phil Spencer has done is giving us Recore which u can tell was CHEAPLY made just like Crackdown 3 is gonna be. Ori & Blind Forest. Dead Rising 4 went to PS4 thx to Phillip Axeman Spencer. Hmm....Rise of TR Timed exclusives & these other games this E3 that are TIMED exclusives lol. Phil Spencer is just a liar dumb american

He lost me as a customer. I not waiting around for big budget AAA exclusives that will never come. Other xbox fans don't care fine, but i be surprised if xbox can last, if hardcore fan's like me are jumping over to Playstation to game.

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#110 Ten_Pints
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Are be gonna get another Minecraft: Xbox X Edition exclusive to the Xbox One X?

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@Shewgenja said:

@i_p_daily: Bugs found in pre-release QA have been known to cause rewrites on majority prtions of game code. This isn't like baking a cake where if you take it out a little early it's gooey and a little bit shit.

Making a game is like following the instructions like biblical truth but turning on the light a few seconds before it should be done to see the eggs and flour seperates themselves from the mix entirely and the chicken that laid the egg miraculously got in there to make thinga more weird.

What on earth are you talking about?

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#112 BobRossPerm
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That's a good thing. It means everything we saw at this E3 will be released before the next E3, so E3 2018 will be entirely new announcements. Hopefully that was Sony's approach too.

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@lawlessx: @davillain-: @Pedro: @kingtito: It's the ramblings of a madman that when faced with reality drifts off into fairyland :P

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Like i said before. Phil Spencer is the dumbest idiot American!! to run Xbone. This guy is the reason Xbone is drowning. No games besides crap like Halo Bores 2 & Crackdown 3 which looks like a X360 game with gameplay stuck there LOL. Wat a joke. Cuphead took 4 years to freaking come out & thats just a indie. Another damn Forza which has NO hype compared to FH3. Phil Spencer is ALL talk & no show

All Xbone has had was SAME 3 games ALL gen just like Don Mattrick. At least Don Mattrick gave us Perfect Dark Remake, Perfect Dark Zero 2005, Banjo, Killer Instinct 2013, Dead Rising 3( NEVER went to PS4) Max Curse of brotherhood etc etc & bunch of other games i missed. Phil Spencer??? Wheres Sunset 2? Wheres Ryse 2? Wheres Scalebound? Wheres Fable ? Where Perfect Dark Sequel? Wheres Kameo 2?? etc etc.

All Phil Spencer has done is giving us Recore which u can tell was CHEAPLY made just like Crackdown 3 is gonna be. Ori & Blind Forest. Dead Rising 4 went to PS4 thx to Phillip Axeman Spencer. Hmm....Rise of TR Timed exclusives & these other games this E3 that are TIMED exclusives lol. Phil Spencer is just a liar dumb american

He lost me as a customer. I not waiting around for big budget AAA exclusives that will never come. Other xbox fans don't care fine, but i be surprised if xbox can last, if hardcore fan's like me are jumping over to Playstation to game.

You're not a hardcore Xbox fan, you're a drama queen. Go play on the PS4 I hope you enjoy it. Hopefully you don't become as big of an idiot as the other person in this quote chain, but you're well on the way.

Since you're such a PS4 fan now why do you still have the Xbox logo as your avatar? are you finding it hard to let go :(

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@ten_pints: It's getting a 4K patch apparently, not sure about content. Not really a Minecraft player and I never thought this would benefit much from 4K graphics.....funny trailer though, some people are excited about it:

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@i_p_daily said:
@loe12k said:
@makemefamous07 said:

Like i said before. Phil Spencer is the dumbest idiot American!! to run Xbone. This guy is the reason Xbone is drowning. No games besides crap like Halo Bores 2 & Crackdown 3 which looks like a X360 game with gameplay stuck there LOL. Wat a joke. Cuphead took 4 years to freaking come out & thats just a indie. Another damn Forza which has NO hype compared to FH3. Phil Spencer is ALL talk & no show

All Xbone has had was SAME 3 games ALL gen just like Don Mattrick. At least Don Mattrick gave us Perfect Dark Remake, Perfect Dark Zero 2005, Banjo, Killer Instinct 2013, Dead Rising 3( NEVER went to PS4) Max Curse of brotherhood etc etc & bunch of other games i missed. Phil Spencer??? Wheres Sunset 2? Wheres Ryse 2? Wheres Scalebound? Wheres Fable ? Where Perfect Dark Sequel? Wheres Kameo 2?? etc etc.

All Phil Spencer has done is giving us Recore which u can tell was CHEAPLY made just like Crackdown 3 is gonna be. Ori & Blind Forest. Dead Rising 4 went to PS4 thx to Phillip Axeman Spencer. Hmm....Rise of TR Timed exclusives & these other games this E3 that are TIMED exclusives lol. Phil Spencer is just a liar dumb american

He lost me as a customer. I not waiting around for big budget AAA exclusives that will never come. Other xbox fans don't care fine, but i be surprised if xbox can last, if hardcore fan's like me are jumping over to Playstation to game.

You're not a hardcore Xbox fan, you're a drama queen. Go play on the PS4 I hope you enjoy it. Hopefully you don't become as big of an idiot as the other person in this quote chain, but you're well on the way.

Since you're such a PS4 fan now why do you still have the Xbox logo as your avatar? are you finding it hard to let go :(

Whatever. I play games on all platforms. I probably have bought more exclusives for xbox one then you have. Maybe i not a zombie like you, who's thinking everything is great for xbox..

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@loe12k said:
@i_p_daily said:
@loe12k said:
@makemefamous07 said:

Like i said before. Phil Spencer is the dumbest idiot American!! to run Xbone. This guy is the reason Xbone is drowning. No games besides crap like Halo Bores 2 & Crackdown 3 which looks like a X360 game with gameplay stuck there LOL. Wat a joke. Cuphead took 4 years to freaking come out & thats just a indie. Another damn Forza which has NO hype compared to FH3. Phil Spencer is ALL talk & no show

All Xbone has had was SAME 3 games ALL gen just like Don Mattrick. At least Don Mattrick gave us Perfect Dark Remake, Perfect Dark Zero 2005, Banjo, Killer Instinct 2013, Dead Rising 3( NEVER went to PS4) Max Curse of brotherhood etc etc & bunch of other games i missed. Phil Spencer??? Wheres Sunset 2? Wheres Ryse 2? Wheres Scalebound? Wheres Fable ? Where Perfect Dark Sequel? Wheres Kameo 2?? etc etc.

All Phil Spencer has done is giving us Recore which u can tell was CHEAPLY made just like Crackdown 3 is gonna be. Ori & Blind Forest. Dead Rising 4 went to PS4 thx to Phillip Axeman Spencer. Hmm....Rise of TR Timed exclusives & these other games this E3 that are TIMED exclusives lol. Phil Spencer is just a liar dumb american

He lost me as a customer. I not waiting around for big budget AAA exclusives that will never come. Other xbox fans don't care fine, but i be surprised if xbox can last, if hardcore fan's like me are jumping over to Playstation to game.

You're not a hardcore Xbox fan, you're a drama queen. Go play on the PS4 I hope you enjoy it. Hopefully you don't become as big of an idiot as the other person in this quote chain, but you're well on the way.

Since you're such a PS4 fan now why do you still have the Xbox logo as your avatar? are you finding it hard to let go :(

Whatever. I play games on all platforms. I probably have bought more exclusives for xbox one then you have. Maybe i not a zombie like you, who's thinking everything is great for xbox..

Me a Zombie lol, where were you talking to true Xbox fans about E3? at least I created a thread to talk about how disappointed I was in MS showing at E3. Yet you're here just whinging like the little bitch you are.

Put a PS4 as your avy and make the process complete, because us true Xbox fans can criticize without running to system wars to bitch and get some reassurance from the cows.

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#118  Edited By CanYouDiglt
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The only thing more bizarre then Sony fans not being able to stop talking about their hate for Xbox is that they actually believe things like this. There were a bunch a upcoming games shown a few days ago yet Sony fans have convinced themselves nothing is coming. Also this is like the OPs 50th anti Xbox thread since E3 started.

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Phil is a Genius. He knows Microsoft under his leader ship of Xbox built the greatest console in history in the Xbox One X. Now he wants to show off his technology.

Sony (who I respect), announces games 3-5 years before they are ever released at E3 on an almost yearly bases. For me, the only exclusive game for Sony PlayStation I like is The Last Of Us. That is one of the greatest games ever made period. I am extremely excited for The Last Of Us Part 2.

But Phil would have made a huge mistake announcing games 4 years out. We will see them next year.

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@loe12k said:
@makemefamous07 said:

Like i said before. Phil Spencer is the dumbest idiot American!! to run Xbone. This guy is the reason Xbone is drowning. No games besides crap like Halo Bores 2 & Crackdown 3 which looks like a X360 game with gameplay stuck there LOL. Wat a joke. Cuphead took 4 years to freaking come out & thats just a indie. Another damn Forza which has NO hype compared to FH3. Phil Spencer is ALL talk & no show

All Xbone has had was SAME 3 games ALL gen just like Don Mattrick. At least Don Mattrick gave us Perfect Dark Remake, Perfect Dark Zero 2005, Banjo, Killer Instinct 2013, Dead Rising 3( NEVER went to PS4) Max Curse of brotherhood etc etc & bunch of other games i missed. Phil Spencer??? Wheres Sunset 2? Wheres Ryse 2? Wheres Scalebound? Wheres Fable ? Where Perfect Dark Sequel? Wheres Kameo 2?? etc etc.

All Phil Spencer has done is giving us Recore which u can tell was CHEAPLY made just like Crackdown 3 is gonna be. Ori & Blind Forest. Dead Rising 4 went to PS4 thx to Phillip Axeman Spencer. Hmm....Rise of TR Timed exclusives & these other games this E3 that are TIMED exclusives lol. Phil Spencer is just a liar dumb american

He lost me as a customer. I not waiting around for big budget AAA exclusives that will never come. Other xbox fans don't care fine, but i be surprised if xbox can last, if hardcore fan's like me are jumping over to Playstation to game.

Another whining ass kid! Don't you see, if MS were to announce any new AAA IP game right at E3 2017, that game will never reach it's release date closer if giving a date that is and not only that, MS will lose the hype it needs and look how that happen to Sclaebound, cancelled. It seems everyone was hyping it and when MS had to face the music, it all falls down letting fans down and imagine if they did announce AAA, there's no guarantee what will happen and it's best to wait when MS is near done with any AAA games so they can deliver you a release date.

Sony however made that mistake, showing games with no release dates, other then God of War 4, the rest are still so far away.

Really, you're bitchin over AAA games when there's lots of other games to be playing? Hell, my backlog is ridiculous as it is and I'm glad MS isn't releasing that many games cause I wouldn't have time to play them all.

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@davillain- said:
@Shewgenja said:

@hrt_rulz01: This Narnia Wonderland yourself and the Lemmings have created where games development is bereft of creative direction changes, bug testing, game engine revisions, optimization, more bug testing, version control, then quality assurance (that must mystically go 100% perfectly every time a game is about to go gold).

Videogames can be massively difficult to release, let alone at some arbitrary time point after a major press conference. You guys have been dead wrong on the subject all gen long.

No seriously, What the Fucks are you talking about?!

Lol nobody knows... just his usual cow nonsense.

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Microsoft been planning this console for some time, and it's basically a more powerful Xbox1. So buy the box now and in a three years games will available to use that power.

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#124  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@davillain- said:
@loe12k said:
@makemefamous07 said:

Like i said before. Phil Spencer is the dumbest idiot American!! to run Xbone. This guy is the reason Xbone is drowning. No games besides crap like Halo Bores 2 & Crackdown 3 which looks like a X360 game with gameplay stuck there LOL. Wat a joke. Cuphead took 4 years to freaking come out & thats just a indie. Another damn Forza which has NO hype compared to FH3. Phil Spencer is ALL talk & no show

All Xbone has had was SAME 3 games ALL gen just like Don Mattrick. At least Don Mattrick gave us Perfect Dark Remake, Perfect Dark Zero 2005, Banjo, Killer Instinct 2013, Dead Rising 3( NEVER went to PS4) Max Curse of brotherhood etc etc & bunch of other games i missed. Phil Spencer??? Wheres Sunset 2? Wheres Ryse 2? Wheres Scalebound? Wheres Fable ? Where Perfect Dark Sequel? Wheres Kameo 2?? etc etc.

All Phil Spencer has done is giving us Recore which u can tell was CHEAPLY made just like Crackdown 3 is gonna be. Ori & Blind Forest. Dead Rising 4 went to PS4 thx to Phillip Axeman Spencer. Hmm....Rise of TR Timed exclusives & these other games this E3 that are TIMED exclusives lol. Phil Spencer is just a liar dumb american

He lost me as a customer. I not waiting around for big budget AAA exclusives that will never come. Other xbox fans don't care fine, but i be surprised if xbox can last, if hardcore fan's like me are jumping over to Playstation to game.

Another whining ass kid! Don't you see, if MS were to announce any new AAA IP game right at E3 2017, that game will never reach it's release date closer if giving a date that is and not only that, MS will lose the hype it needs and look how that happen to Sclaebound, cancelled. It seems everyone was hyping it and when MS had to face the music, it all falls down letting fans down and imagine if they did announce AAA, there's no guarantee what will happen and it's best to wait when MS is near done with any AAA games so they can deliver you a release date.

Sony however made that mistake, showing games with no release dates, other then God of War 4, the rest are still so far away.

Really, you're bitchin over AAA games when there's lots of other games to be playing? Hell, my backlog is ridiculous as it is and I'm glad MS isn't releasing that many games cause I wouldn't have time to play them all.

You know what dav I "tend" to give you a lot of shit on here, but I read your post and I must say

@makemefamous07 said:

@davillain- Where are these New franchises to build up on & be key heavy hitters for Xbone??? NONE! Phil Spencer just makes these CHEAPLY made games that flop & send out to die & NEVER to get sequels lmao. The only one is Ori which wont come out until 2018. Soooo....yeah.

Sony has new franchises that get sequels unlike Phil Spencer who just picks up these VERY few new IPs that suck & if they dont sell NEVER get sequels. Crackdown 3 with those UGLY graphics, gameplay from 2008 will NEVER get a sequel judging by how CHEAP it looks & plays. So another 9 years till we see another one lol Same with Sea Of thieves which WILL flop cuz its CHEAP, Lacks gameplay, lacks that fun factor & just a stupid game like Army Of Two was from EA LOL. Xbone will always be Halo, Forza, Gears even tho gears 4 flopped

What a fucking mess all I can say is this

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Run TC! You're considered a traitor by one side and....

Who knows? Maybe a hero by the other?

This is why real opinions and dialogue are not wise on gaming forums.

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@loe12k: Good. I wouldn't want to play a game that's been rushed out of the gate. And why are you so hung up on exclusives anyway? What's stopping you from playing other AAA titles that WILL be available at launch?

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@makemefamous07: I'm not defending Phil or anything like that. My point is, game development takes like months or years, there coming, just be patience and like I said, there's lots of 3rd party games to play in the mean time.

And it should be noted the only 2 MS exclusive games I'm dying to play this year are Sea of Thieves & Crackdown 3 only. Hell there's even few Sony games I'm also looking forward to playing this year as well. What a great time to be a gamer, unlike you makemefamous07.

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@davillain- said:

@makemefamous07: I'm not defending Phil or anything like that. My point is, game development takes like months or years, there coming, just be patience and like I said, there's lots of 3rd party games to play in the mean time.

And it should be noted the only 2 MS exclusive games I'm dying to play this year are Sea of Thieves & Crackdown 3 only. Hell there's even few Sony games I'm also looking forward to playing this year as well. What a great time to be a gamer, unlike you makemefamous07.

This is sad MS doesn't have time or the luxury to take it,they need to give a reason other than power to get Scorpio,or and xbox one they simply have no games,Forza7 meh,Sea of thieves didn't it rolled into 2018?,and crackdown was never a huge AAA game,it was amid 80's game and its sequel was bad,so is not like the have Halo 3 coming this holiday and is 2007,the xbox one offerings are slim this year,they have basically nothing even for the holidays which they always joined all its games even if they let you for the first 7 or 8 months of the year without games.

This year for MS has been Halo wars 2,which we all know how it turn out,F7 crackdown and probably stated of decay and cuphead is not really a good year for MS,so they need to really show something even if those games don't come in 2 or 3 years,the impression they give is that they have nothing,since coming 2 or 3 years latter has never been an impediment to MS,Crackdown,Scalebound,now sea of thieves,quantum break,cuphead and many others have 2 or 3 years since they were first should,so what MS is doing here is damage controlling their conference that was weak gamewise vs sony.

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@i_p_daily: actually the point was that Sony has more games and Microsoft did the same thing Sony does/l- showing games that are years away

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@tormentos said:
@davillain- said:

@makemefamous07: I'm not defending Phil or anything like that. My point is, game development takes like months or years, there coming, just be patience and like I said, there's lots of 3rd party games to play in the mean time.

And it should be noted the only 2 MS exclusive games I'm dying to play this year are Sea of Thieves & Crackdown 3 only. Hell there's even few Sony games I'm also looking forward to playing this year as well. What a great time to be a gamer, unlike you makemefamous07.

This is sad MS doesn't have time or the luxury to take it,they need to give a reason other than power to get Scorpio,or and xbox one they simply have no games,Forza7 meh,Sea of thieves didn't it rolled into 2018?,and crackdown was never a huge AAA game,it was amid 80's game and its sequel was bad,so is not like the have Halo 3 coming this holiday and is 2007,the xbox one offerings are slim this year,they have basically nothing even for the holidays which they always joined all its games even if they let you for the first 7 or 8 months of the year without games.

This year for MS has been Halo wars 2,which we all know how it turn out,F7 crackdown and probably stated of decay and cuphead is not really a good year for MS,so they need to really show something even if those games don't come in 2 or 3 years,the impression they give is that they have nothing,since coming 2 or 3 years latter has never been an impediment to MS,Crackdown,Scalebound,now sea of thieves,quantum break,cuphead and many others have 2 or 3 years since they were first should,so what MS is doing here is damage controlling their conference that was weak gamewise vs sony.

Thats where your entire argument falls apart and my cue to stop reading.

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#131 LJS9502_basic
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@Pedro said:
@frank_castle said:
@Pedro said:

Your ignorance is quite astonishing. Will read again.

Please enlighten me as to why the hell anyone would pay $500 for a game system, specifically designed for 4K, when they don't already own a giant 4K TV?

You think tons of people are going to rush out and pay over $2,000 to upgrade their TV's and purchase this redundant hunk of shit?

Geesh, come man. COME ON. It has been said time and time again ALL of your games will run and look better regardless of owning a 4k TV. But, who are you trying to fool? Its not like you are trying to think logically here.

PC might be for you if graphical updates are what you want.

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#132 cyberpunk_2077
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We will see a new Console by the time Xbox one X is worth having....but by then what was the point? I like how Phil has put the onus on the developers so that we can moan about developers slacking.

Microsoft may have messed up here. To be continued.....

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#133 loe12k
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@cyberpunk_2077 said:

We will see a new Console by the time Xbox one X is worth having....but by then what was the point? I like how Phil has put the onus on the developers so that we can moan about developers slacking.

Microsoft may have messed up here. To be continued.....

It's not worth buying a launch if you don't have a 4K TV. Third party will run better at 4K, but at 1080p don't see much of difference between the PRO and X. Sony has got more AAA exclusives lined up, it's a better purchase for gamers, have not bought a playstation yet.

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@kingtito said:
@Shewgenja said:

@i_p_daily: Bugs found in pre-release QA have been known to cause rewrites on majority prtions of game code. This isn't like baking a cake where if you take it out a little early it's gooey and a little bit shit.

Making a game is like following the instructions like biblical truth but turning on the light a few seconds before it should be done to see the eggs and flour seperates themselves from the mix entirely and the chicken that laid the egg miraculously got in there to make thinga more weird.

You know, I read what i_p says and then I read your response and I'm like wtf, are you actually understanding what he's saying because your response don't show it.

Its a classic moogenja response.

He dodges the question and chats shit and hopes no one will notice

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#135 deactivated-5eb6f92daae05
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@RR360DD said:
@kingtito said:
@Shewgenja said:

@i_p_daily: Bugs found in pre-release QA have been known to cause rewrites on majority prtions of game code. This isn't like baking a cake where if you take it out a little early it's gooey and a little bit shit.

Making a game is like following the instructions like biblical truth but turning on the light a few seconds before it should be done to see the eggs and flour seperates themselves from the mix entirely and the chicken that laid the egg miraculously got in there to make thinga more weird.

You know, I read what i_p says and then I read your response and I'm like wtf, are you actually understanding what he's saying because your response don't show it.

Its a classic moogenja response.

He dodges the question and chats shit and hopes no one will notice

Lmfao...

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#136 tormentos
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@i_p_daily said:

Where did he say anything about games being released on schedule/broken? he said he would rather games getting announced when they are close to being ready.

He's right look at Death Stranding, FF7 Remake, Shenmue 3 for just 3 examples. Sony announced them a while back and they are nowhere to be seen, in 2yrs no gameplay has been shown, so we know these games are at the least another 2yrs away. Why announce something that is 3-4yrs away, it's stupid, but hey enjoy the wait lol.

Where is scalebound...lol Fable? Crackdown has 3 years to,and those were MS owned games,unlike FF or shenmue which aren't sony's property.

Not to mention sea of thieves which was roll to 2018 again 3 years.

Pointing fingers at sony is joke even cuphead was announce 2 years ago,so MS does show games years in advance and Phil Spencer is full of shit they simply have nothing and were trying to make believe like they do because some sites weighted in on the lack of true exclusives.

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#137 Reagan2791
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@frank_castle: I just bought a new 4K HDR 50" tv for $599, one of the best rates on rtings.com that's not in the OLED space. After reading your previous comments, I've discerned that you're either a troll or an idiot, or possibly both. In the last 3 years, with Phil at the helm, Xbox has been completely transformed and vastly improved. I could outline everything, but you could simply Google it yourself. Your hellbent on tearing down the brand, though, and there's no fixing stupid.

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#138  Edited By Shewgenja
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@kinky-unikorn said:
@RR360DD said:
@kingtito said:
@Shewgenja said:

@i_p_daily: Bugs found in pre-release QA have been known to cause rewrites on majority prtions of game code. This isn't like baking a cake where if you take it out a little early it's gooey and a little bit shit.

Making a game is like following the instructions like biblical truth but turning on the light a few seconds before it should be done to see the eggs and flour seperates themselves from the mix entirely and the chicken that laid the egg miraculously got in there to make thinga more weird.

You know, I read what i_p says and then I read your response and I'm like wtf, are you actually understanding what he's saying because your response don't show it.

Its a classic moogenja response.

He dodges the question and chats shit and hopes no one will notice

Lmfao...

How exactly did I dodge the question? I was merely stating that it's incredibly difficult to predict when a game will come out because of the complex nature of the software. Feel free to interpret it this way as well, though. If you really want a game industry where everyone sits on their hands and announces things at the last moment (Frankly, we know you guys get off to having any kind of hype train to ride into November), then prepare for a whole hell of a lot of leaked game announcements. Trade shows like E3 will cease to be bombing runs and turn into a useless formality that will eventually get boring and die.

You guys have such a hard-on for trying to knuckle me down that you have lost your collective reason. What are you even doing anymore? This isn't even just one meltdown, this was a dogpiled meltdown, and a fruitless one.

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#139  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@tormentos said:
@i_p_daily said:

Where did he say anything about games being released on schedule/broken? he said he would rather games getting announced when they are close to being ready.

He's right look at Death Stranding, FF7 Remake, Shenmue 3 for just 3 examples. Sony announced them a while back and they are nowhere to be seen, in 2yrs no gameplay has been shown, so we know these games are at the least another 2yrs away. Why announce something that is 3-4yrs away, it's stupid, but hey enjoy the wait lol.

Where is scalebound...lol Fable? Crackdown has 3 years to,and those were MS owned games,unlike FF or shenmue which aren't sony's property.

Not to mention sea of thieves which was roll to 2018 again 3 years.

Pointing fingers at sony is joke even cuphead was announce 2 years ago,so MS does show games years in advance and Phil Spencer is full of shit they simply have nothing and were trying to make believe like they do because some sites weighted in on the lack of true exclusives.

Oh so you finally got a non gibberish response, cool.

First off you want to shift goalposts by talking about games that got cancelled, stick to the topic at hand, I know it's hard to do, but give it a go I reckon you should be able to do it I believe in you moo :P

Yes MS did show games that were years away like C3, SoT & Cuphead, and now they have stated they don't want to do that anymore that's what we're all talking about, Sony hasn't made such a statement. Which is why we're saying it's a good thing we NEVER said MS didn't do it also.

As for Sony not owning those properties, well Sony has it's fingers in the pot when it comes to Shenmue 3, so while they don't own it we also know there is no Xbox release, and again 2yrs and NO gameplay what so ever. Death Stranding is another one that Sony has it's fingers in, and we know it's a console exclusive to PS4 and NO gameplay shown. As for FF7 well it has only been announced as being on the one console I believe which is the PS4, so Sony does have it's fingers in it, and again NO gameplay.

Short disclaimer, now i'm not a PS4 follower, so if there is indeed gameplay footage/Xbox release confirmation please show it as I would like to see it, well mostly Shenmue 3's.

One last tid bit about how MS has no games, they said that Halo 6 is already into production, whether you believe them or not that's up to you.

Halo's not my thing so i'll wait to see what Playground games is working on next.

EDIT: holy shit I though shew gave me a response not the tormented one, scratch everything I said as tormy has no reading comprehension, I should have known with the cancelled game bit lol.

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@loe12k said:

I knew this was the case after that E3 conference. Phil so for the last two years, was doing nothing to improve xbox first party line up for fan's! Why would anyone buy an xbox one x for exclusives that are 3 years away and i just know it's third party devs making games for them again. Phil, games are just as important as hardware, you can do both at the same time.

"When I started this job three years ago, hardware was a real focus for us because I thought we had more work to do there. Xbox One S shipped last year, the X is shipping this year, I love our hardware line. Xbox Live was something I wanted to focus, coming on Android, iOS, Windows PC because I really want people to play games on the place they want to go play.

Our first party is a critical part of that equation. Yesterday, I know people want to see what we’re investing in new.

We are investing in new things, we signed things just recently that I thought, ‘Hey, from a PR standpoint it would be really easy for me to put a trailer on screen’, but then I know the game is not coming for another two and half or three years, so I didn’t want to do that"

http://wccftech.com/spencer-signed-exclusives-2-3years/

Poor guy.

Exclusives mean exclusives to one particular platform, not exclusive to xbox and pc.

I wonder if Spencer is related to Spicer because they both act like they have the same delusions

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This way when they cancel them no one will know they existed to begin with so it won't matter.

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#142 Tigerbalm
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Xbox was leagues better in Don Mattrick, there AAAE games all over the place. Phil is Judy broken promises and smoke and mirrors. Under Don, Xbox was blazing its own trail and not copying anyone. It's time for Microsoft to fire Phil for gamers sake.

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@tigerbalm said:

Xbox was leagues better in Don Mattrick, there AAAE games all over the place. Phil is Judy broken promises and smoke and mirrors. Under Don, Xbox was blazing its own trail and not copying anyone. It's time for Microsoft to fire Phil for gamers sake.

I wouldn't say there were AAAE's all over the place but the brand was more relevant during the Mattrick era. For instance I don't think they would have lost every marketing deal to Sony if Don was still in charge.

They have nothing going for them now under Phil. Sony's got them beat on price, first party exclusives, Japanese support and marketing deals/exclusive content for most big 3rd games coming out.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@tigerbalm said:

Xbox was leagues better in Don Mattrick, there AAAE games all over the place. Phil is Judy broken promises and smoke and mirrors. Under Don, Xbox was blazing its own trail and not copying anyone. It's time for Microsoft to fire Phil for gamers sake.

I wouldn't say there were AAAE's all over the place but the brand was more relevant during the Mattrick era. For instance I don't think they would have lost every marketing deal to Sony if Don was still in charge.

They have nothing going for them now under Phil. Sony's got them beat on price, first party exclusives, Japanese support and marketing deals/exclusive content for most big 3rd games coming out.

How do you know they "lost" these marketing deals?

To me marketing deals are stupid, why pay to promote someone else's games that are multiplatform.

I mean R* must be laughing their arses off all the way to the bank because we know Sony would have payed them a mint for that deal.

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#145 PutASpongeOn
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Just buy a ps4.

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@putaspongeon said:

Just buy a ps4.

That makes sense coming from a PC guy.

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#147  Edited By ronvalencia
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@tigerbalm said:

Xbox was leagues better in Don Mattrick, there AAAE games all over the place. Phil is Judy broken promises and smoke and mirrors. Under Don, Xbox was blazing its own trail and not copying anyone. It's time for Microsoft to fire Phil for gamers sake.

Don Mattrick joined MS on July 2007 i.e. the the box is already in place before Don Mattrick. Don Mattrick's administration attempted to copy Wii's motion control hype with XBO with Kinect.

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#148 Tessellation
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@xantufrog said:
@loe12k said:

And they kind of lied about the power of Scorpio or least tried to push the narrative it was a 4K native console and there be no compromises..

I don't know if they really "lied" - but they did make one too many jabs before E3 about the Scorpio being a "real" 4K system for them to come off as classy, especially now that reality is coming to light

Forza 7 is 4K native,what other developers do with their games is not up to microsoft..probably MS exclusives are going to push for 4K native.

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#149 Shewgenja
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@i_p_daily said:
@putaspongeon said:

Just buy a ps4.

That makes sense coming from a PC guy.

There's these things called exclusives.

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#150 speedfog
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@quadknight said:

By the time the new exclusives are ready PS5 and XboxTwo will be out already. I guess it's his way of saying MS has given up on this gen. ? GG lems, you guys had a decent run,

Meanwhile cows are laughing while they are playing their Uncharted 4 DLC for the rest of the year when it eventually comes out.

Greatness awaits