Spielberg wants Halo?

So, why exactly would it be a waste?Deiuos

[QUOTE="Deiuos"] So, why exactly would it be a waste?AdrianWerner

The setting is generic and cliched? That can be said for any story. Pirates? Done. Medieval? Done. Human on Human conflict? Done. Human on Alien conflict? Done. It's how the stories are written, presented, and detailed that makes things like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, etc. special and unique. Halo is a very detailed universe, and a universe that is very fun for millions of people to follow -- otherwise the novels wouldn't be selling as good. I know I'm not the only person who's excited for ODST and Reach more for the story, than for the gameplay. I played through Halo 3 just so I could see how the trilogy with the Chief ended.

Lacks protagonist? Hope you realize the Master Chief isn't the only character. If you truly knew Halo, you'd know that the story isn't just about the Master Chief. Halo, if it was to be about anything, would be more about people and races overcoming odds through all costs, even if that cost is self-sacrifice. Also, if you read Halo: Fall of Reach, the story of John (Master Chief) being trained into a Spartan is a great read, and something that'd be extremely fun to watch in a movie setting, in my opinion.

[QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]

Even though he's well renowned in the industry, even slapping his name on megahit crap like Transformers, NO THANKS.

Likely he'll PG13 it, slap his name on as producer, and rake in millions. No justice at all.

navyguy21

Im going to go out on a limb here..............youre not a fan of his work are you?? :P

I'm not a fan of his works in the past 15 years or so, with the exception of Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan.

The problem with Spielberg is he has never made an attempt to make a serious Fictional R-Rated movie. Movies like Terminator 2, Aliens, Alien, Blade Runner, Predator, Heat, The Exorcist, The Godfather, Children of Men, Die Hard just to name a few off the top of my head have been quality R-rated Films.

A majority of his films have been summer popcorn blockbusters for the sake of raking in big dollar$. And all have them have been PG and PG13. I'm not saying they're ALL crap, some were very good and influential. But most of them have been mediocre at best.

A.I. and Minority Report were steps in the R-rated direction, but suprisingly, despite the haunting scenes, the Oedipal themes in A.I. and dystopian imagery of Minority Report, it had to go PG-13. I believe Kubrick and Philip K Dick were crying in their graves when he made them.

A majority of his R-Rated films have been historical based: those Two I just mentioned, and Amistad and Munich. The last two being....meh. If Spielberg helms the director's seat (or Producer's) for a Halo movie, expect a PG13 rating and his own fancy brand name slapped on to it. Which would rake in millions.

[QUOTE="kolkov01"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

... There are books for every video game.. The point being is they are not gonna base the movie off the books.. The series is popular because of the games NOT the books.

sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

[QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]

Even though he's well renowned in the industry, even slapping his name on megahit crap like Transformers, NO THANKS.

Likely he'll PG13 it, slap his name on as producer, and rake in millions. No justice at all.

KingsofQueens

Im going to go out on a limb here..............youre not a fan of his work are you?? :P

I'm not a fan of his works in the past 15 years or so, with the exception of Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan.

The problem with Spielberg is he has never made an attempt to make a serious Fictional R-Rated movie. Movies like Terminator 2, Aliens, Alien, Blade Runner, Predator, Heat, The Exorcist, The Godfather, Children of Men, Die Hard just to name a few off the top of my head have been quality R-rated Films.

A majority of his films have been summer popcorn blockbusters for the sake of raking in big dollar$. And all have them have been PG and PG13. I'm not saying they're ALL crap, some were very good and influential. But most of them have been mediocre at best.

A.I. and Minority Report were steps in the R-rated direction, but suprisingly, despite the haunting scenes, the Oedipal themes in A.I. and dystopian imagery of Minority Report, it had to go PG-13. I believe Kubrick and Philip K Dick were crying in their graves when he made them.

A majority of his R-Rated films have been historical based: those Two I just mentioned, and Amistad and Munich. The last two being....meh. If Spielberg helms the director's seat (or Producer's) for a Halo movie, expect a PG13 rating and his own fancy brand name slapped on to it. Which would rake in millions.

The IP is weak? Really? Kind of contradicts Spielberg even caring for the franchise.Deiuos

I meant as it's quality and how suited it is for a movie, not its financial potential. It's the same as with Transformers or GI.Joe, the IPs obviously had a lot of popularity and money making potential, but it's not like anyone thought they were suitable material for a movie masterpiece. Similiar with Halo.

The setting is generic and cliched? That can be said for any story. Pirates? Done. Medieval? Done. Human on Human conflict? Done. Human on Alien conflict? Done. It's how the stories are written, presented, and detailed that makes things like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, etc. special and unique. Halo is a very detailed universe, and a universe that is very fun for millions of people to follow -- otherwise the novels wouldn't be selling as good. I know I'm not the only person who's excited for ODST and Reach more for the story, than for the gameplay. I played through Halo 3 just so I could see how the trilogy with the Chief ended.Deiuos

Nah, at the very least the best movies take a cliched elements and put their own unique spin on them. Halo doesn't. Not to mention it's typical videogame setting, you can clearly see elements that were straight ripped from other sources. For game it was cool, you could recognize what inspired Bungie, but for movie all it would make is make your eyes roll and think they couldn't afford art crew so they copied designs from other movies and books.

And it's true it all depends on how you tell a story, the problem is even that wasn't unique or interesting in Halo compared to what I expect from typical storytelling mediums. And you're underestinatimg the willingness of fans to read novels in their beloved gaming universe. Just take a look at how many Forgotten Realms or Warcraft novels there are, yet they're all very mediocre compared to best of fantasy genre. Same with halo novels, they're not bad for game novels, but compare them to truly good SF novels and they fall flat on their face. That could be expanded to whole Halo franchise, I'm sure those three could take Halo and make great movie out of it, there's just simply so many other a lot better source materials for them. Which is propably why all those were simply interested in producing the movie, not actualy directing it themselves

Lacks protagonist? Hope you realize the Master Chief isn't the only character. If you truly knew Halo, you'd know that the story isn't just about the Master Chief.

Deiuos

[QUOTE="Deiuos"]

The IP is weak? Really? Kind of contradicts Spielberg even caring for the franchise.

I meant as it's quality and how suited it is for a movie, not its financial potential. It's the same as with Transformers or GI.Joe, the IPs obviously had a lot of popularity and money making potential, but it's not like anyone thought they were suitable material for a movie masterpiece. Similiar with Halo.

The setting is generic and cliched? That can be said for any story. Pirates? Done. Medieval? Done. Human on Human conflict? Done. Human on Alien conflict? Done. It's how the stories are written, presented, and detailed that makes things like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, etc. special and unique. Halo is a very detailed universe, and a universe that is very fun for millions of people to follow -- otherwise the novels wouldn't be selling as good. I know I'm not the only person who's excited for ODST and Reach more for the story, than for the gameplay. I played through Halo 3 just so I could see how the trilogy with the Chief ended.Deiuos

Nah, at the very least the best movies take a cliched elements and put their own unique spin on them. Halo doesn't. Not to mention it's typical videogame setting, you can clearly see elements that were straight ripped from other sources. For game it was cool, you could recognize what inspired Bungie, but for movie all it would make is make your eyes roll and think they couldn't afford art crew so they copied designs from other movies and books.

And it's true it all depends on how you tell a story, the problem is even that wasn't unique or interesting in Halo compared to what I expect from typical storytelling mediums. And you're underestinatimg the willingness of fans to read novels in their beloved gaming universe. Just take a look at how many Forgotten Realms or Warcraft novels there are, yet they're all very mediocre compared to best of fantasy genre. Same with halo novels, they're not bad for game novels, but compare them to truly good SF novels and they fall flat on their face. That could be expanded to whole Halo franchise, I'm sure those three could take Halo and make great movie out of it, there's just simply so many other a lot better source materials for them. Which is propably why all those were simply interested in producing the movie, not actualy directing it themselves

[QUOTE="Deiuos"]Lacks protagonist? Hope you realize the Master Chief isn't the only character. If you truly knew Halo, you'd know that the story isn't just about the Master Chief.

He would be only producing so meh. What was more shocking to me is that MS somehow managed to get Greg Bear to sign on writing Halo novels trilogy. How the hell did they convince the writer of this calibre to write novels based on games is a mystery to me

AdrianWerner

why not?

Games are capable of actually having a good story. There are proffesional writers who penn the story for games, it's only natural that it can be transitioned into a novel.

You see this with all kinds of media- radio stories can be transitioned into movies-War of the Worlds.

Novels to movies-Lord of the Rings

Why does this surprise you? What if Greg Bear is a fan of games?

What's more shocking is people who are still shocked that this happens when it's been happening for years.

Are you still shocked or surprised? You shouldn't be especially if you haven't ignored all the media transitions between games-novels-movies etc

The story is about MC, the books expand on it, but when you make a movie you need MC, that's one of the main draws of the whole IP. Making Halo movie without him as main character would be like making Judge Dredd movie without Dredd. Sure there are other characters in the same universe, but people expect Dredd as main hero. It happened thsi year with Terminator: Salvation. It was set in the future, so people expected Connor to be the main hero, so much they actualy had to rewrite the story from the initial idea of making Marcus the main hero and Connor a secondary character. And people's attachment to Connor as main hero wasn't anywhere near as big as to MC as Halo's hero

AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="stepat201"]

Peter Jackson or James Cameron would be much better suited for this.

AdrianWerner

I think it would be a huge waste of either one's talents to make a Halo movie to be honest.

really and how do you feel about other games turned into movies?

Halo doesn't have to be a master peice, but it could easily be a good movie.enterawesome

I'm not sayingy it won't. That's the whole point. It's material for a good movie, not an amazing one. So you don't need a director of Cameron or Jackson caliber to do so. Using them would be like using a canon to kill an ant. It's an overkill considering the source material

I don't see why MC wouldn't make a good main character anyway?enterawesome

I honestly can't think of any movies by him that I have liked since E.T. Sorry.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

He would be only producing so meh. What was more shocking to me is that MS somehow managed to get Greg Bear to sign on writing Halo novels trilogy. How the hell did they convince the writer of this calibre to write novels based on games is a mystery to me

AdmiralBison

why not?

Games are capable of actually having a good story. There are proffesional writers who penn the story for games, it's only natural that it can be transitioned into a novel.

You see this with all kinds of media- radio stories can be transitioned into movies-War of the Worlds.

Novels to movies-Lord of the Rings

Why does this surprise you? What if Greg Bear is a fan of games?

What's more shocking is people who are still shocked that this happens when it's been happening for years.

Are you still shocked or surprised? You shouldn't be especially if you haven't ignored all the media transitions between games-novels-movies etc

making novels based on existing popular propery is usualy reserved as a job for B-league writers. Let alone novels based on games. It's true that games are capable of having a good story (well...not so much by novels standarts, the best game story is barely decent by novels standarts), but when author writes for a game it's different thing if he's allowed to create his own whole plot. When Zelazny was writting Chronomaster he had free reign, so it was just author exploring diffrent medium. When you get author to write for existing propery, like they did in Doom3 it doesn't come out this good.

Simply put it's always very limiting and games as a whole are still considered as primitive story-wise (deservingly so in most cases). That's why it's a huge acomplishment for MS to get Greg Bear, one of most ciritically aclaimed modern SF writers to create Halo trilogy of novels. It's not natural, it's the first time a thing like this happened. So yes, it is shocking and surprising. And denying it is just downplaying how bigh achievement it is for the whole Halo IP.

really and how do you feel about other games turned into movies?

AdmiralBison

I honestly can't think of any movies by him that I have liked since E.T. Sorry.

falconclan

oh well what a shame. I guess millions had to suffer watching other movies like Jaws and Schindler's list.

I feel so sorry for you.

here if it makes you feel better there will be millions of Halo fans ready to suffer by watching the Halo movie first week of opening.

even some of the naysayers here said effectively that Halo will do ok with out a big name like Steven Spielberg or Peter Jackson to helm the film.

Wow, and just to have them on board wouldn't hurt at all.

Unless Halo haters can find another way to spin this into a bad thing.....

which reminds me where is all the hate for the Halo legend animes?

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

really and how do you feel about other games turned into movies?

AdrianWerner

really?

So why do they keep making game movies- Resident Evil series, Legend of Zelda, Lara Croft Tomb Raider, Prince of Persia.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

really and how do you feel about other games turned into movies?

AdmiralBison

really?

So why do they keep making game movies- Resident Evil series, Legend of Zelda, Lara Croft Tomb Raider, Prince of Persia.

Yeah, spielberg + shiney space suit + colorfull little goblins + "MASTER CHIEF" = You want some tea? because thats an awful lot of Cheese

Yeah, spielberg + shiney space suit + colorfull little goblins + "MASTER CHIEF" = You want some tea? because thats an awful lot of Cheese

LookAnDrolL

If done really well, I'd love to see the franchise go to the big screen - bring it !! :D

Oh and I think the Peter Jackson Halo project is still alive as well.

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]they're all crap. The only wortwhile videogame adaptations are some anime based on japanese visual novels, but not live action movies

AdrianWerner

really?

So why do they keep making game movies- Resident Evil series, Legend of Zelda, Lara Croft Tomb Raider, Prince of Persia.

exactly and Halo is a money maker.

The movie's you deem crap is just your opinion.

Do care to know why Halo is a money maker?

Please god let it be rated R and have good acting

Yeah, spielberg + shiney space suit + colorfull little goblins + "MASTER CHIEF" = You want some tea? because thats an awful lot of Cheese

LookAnDrolL

and your point?

Please god let it be rated R and have good acting

CHRION987

Halo is not really that kind of rating.

It's not gory -to humans anyway with excessive blood and guts, heavy sex scenes, heavy drug use and what not.

M rating is probably more appropriate.

exactly and Halo is a money maker.

The movie's you deem crap is just your opinion.

Do care to know why Halo is a money maker?

AdmiralBison

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]

Yeah, spielberg + shiney space suit + colorfull little goblins + "MASTER CHIEF" = You want some tea? because thats an awful lot of Cheese

SpiritOfFire117

Screw Halo, gimme a decent 40k movie and I'll be happy for the rest of the year.

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

exactly and Halo is a money maker.

The movie's you deem crap is just your opinion.

Do care to know why Halo is a money maker?

AdrianWerner

the point is thatHalo is popular because it is considered good of fun gameplay and story.

Reader reviews of Halo

You can have your opinions and not everyone is going to agree but this will not change things. You can either accept it or keep going in denial like some of those silly comments by some reader reviews.

This non-sense has been going on for years since Halo's inception.

Something that has those qualities can be further capitalised into other media. Halo is no longer just a game, it is a franchise.

If novels writers can see money made out of it because it has a good enough story they do it- They have the experience

If directors can find money to be made out of it because it has a good enough story they do it-Steven Spielberg has a bit of experience I think when it comes to handling stories yeah?.

If there are millions of people who praise Halo's stories including professional reviewers, unbiased gamers, novel readers- then it must be because the gameplay and story is good.

A good product or story can make a lot of money.

they go hand in hand.

How about this for thought.

No one has seen the movie yet, not even you.

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]

Yeah, spielberg + shiney space suit + colorfull little goblins + "MASTER CHIEF" = You want some tea? because thats an awful lot of Cheese

AdrianWerner

so but I notice you nitpick everything.

Oh MC is not the main protagonist

Oh the story is too generic

oh only things based of anime is only good

Oh they only do this for the money so automatically the movie isn't legitimately good.

Why don't you just say it. You don't like Halo simple as that.

What else can you come up with?

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]

Yeah, spielberg + shiney space suit + colorfull little goblins + "MASTER CHIEF" = You want some tea? because thats an awful lot of Cheese

AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]Halo doesn't have to be a master peice, but it could easily be a good movie.AdrianWerner

I'm not sayingy it won't. That's the whole point. It's material for a good movie, not an amazing one. So you don't need a director of Cameron or Jackson caliber to do so. Using them would be like using a canon to kill an ant. It's an overkill considering the source material

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]

I don't see why MC wouldn't make a good main character anyway?

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]

Yeah, spielberg + shiney space suit + colorfull little goblins + "MASTER CHIEF" = You want some tea? because thats an awful lot of Cheese

A Halo movie directed by Spielberg would be awesome, and would be the exact person Microsoft would need to bring it to the big screen. Without him, the public would view it as another movie based on a game. And it helps that he makes awesome movies!! :D Im hoping he jumps aboard the Uncharted movie as well, awesome game that should be done right :)navyguy21

Dude he already made an Uncharted movie... It was called Indiana Jones.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]I'm gonna go on a limb and say you don't know much about Halo do you?;)

enterawesome

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]I'm gonna go on a limb and say you don't know much about Halo do you?;)

enterawesome

Because they attempt to look mean and fail at it. At least that's based on the latest Halo anyway. Flood are crap.

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]well...it does have really cheese alien design, whever I see those little monkeys all I can think of is Pokemon :D

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]well...it does have really cheese alien design, whever I see those little monkeys all I can think of is Pokemon :D

Because they attempt to look mean and fail at it. At least that's based on the latest Halo anyway. Flood are crap.

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]How could The Flood, of all thing, in all heaven, earth, and hell, EVER resemble Pokemon?enterawesome

Because they attempt to look mean and fail at it. At least that's based on the latest Halo anyway. Flood are crap.

No, it's a quote from the Bravo Two Zero book.

If done really well, I'd love to see the franchise go to the big screen - bring it !! :D

Oh and I think the Peter Jackson Halo project is still alive as well.

SecretPolice

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

Because they attempt to look mean and fail at it. At least that's based on the latest Halo anyway. Flood are crap.

No, it's a quote from the Bravo Two Zero book.

Because they attempt to look mean and fail at it. At least that's based on the latest Halo anyway. Flood are crap.

AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

If done really well, I'd love to see the franchise go to the big screen - bring it !! :D

Oh and I think the Peter Jackson Halo project is still alive as well.

Deiuos

Halo Chronicles' studio still operational.

by Martin Robinson, IGN UK

UK, July 28, 2009 - Wingnut Interactive, the studio set-up to produce the cancelled Halo Chronicles, is still at work on original games according to a recent interview.

Following a series of interviews at last week's Comic-Con, it emerged that Peter Jackson's Halo project is dead in the water. Jackson's manager Ken Kamins explained the cancellation to the LA Times, saying "[MicrosoftGames Studios] were scaling back everything, including the number of Halo games, and it just made sense at that point. Once 'The Hobbit' and 'Tintin' got going, they really cannibalized Peter's time and ability to oversee any Halo games."

However, the cancellation doesn't mean that Jackson is done with videogames, as Kemins revealed that Wingnut Interactive is alive and well, and working on an all-new game. "It was born out of this [Halo deal]," said Kemins of the studio, "but now Peter has people in Wingnut Interactive working on original intellectual property."

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]well...it does have really cheese alien design, whever I see those little monkeys all I can think of is Pokemon :D

AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]well...it does have really cheese alien design, whever I see those little monkeys all I can think of is Pokemon :D

Leejjohno

Because they attempt to look mean and fail at it. At least that's based on the latest Halo anyway. Flood are crap.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]How could The Flood, of all thing, in all heaven, earth, and hell, EVER resemble Pokemon?Shafftehr

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Because they attempt to look mean and fail at it. At least that's based on the latest Halo anyway. Flood are crap.

SpiritOfFire117

[QUOTE="Deiuos"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

If done really well, I'd love to see the franchise go to the big screen - bring it !! :D

Oh and I think the Peter Jackson Halo project is still alive as well.

SecretPolice

Halo Chronicles' studio still operational.

by Martin Robinson, IGN UK

UK, July 28, 2009 - Wingnut Interactive, the studio set-up to produce the cancelled Halo Chronicles, is still at work on original games according to a recent interview.

Following a series of interviews at last week's Comic-Con, it emerged that Peter Jackson's Halo project is dead in the water. Jackson's manager Ken Kamins explained the cancellation to the LA Times, saying "[MicrosoftGames Studios] were scaling back everything, including the number of Halo games, and it just made sense at that point. Once 'The Hobbit' and 'Tintin' got going, they really cannibalized Peter's time and ability to oversee any Halo games."

However, the cancellation doesn't mean that Jackson is done with videogames, as Kemins revealed that Wingnut Interactive is alive and well, and working on an all-new game. "It was born out of this [Halo deal]," said Kemins of the studio, "but now Peter has people in Wingnut Interactive working on original intellectual property."

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Because they attempt to look mean and fail at it. At least that's based on the latest Halo anyway. Flood are crap.

AdrianWerner

And I failed at "cuting" quotes. Irony much?

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]I'm not talking about the flood, I',m talking about the little covenant guys, they not only look like pokemon, but also have those cute little voices straight from morning cartoon.

AdrianWerner

Also there are Jawas :D