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#1 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/starocean4/review.html

7.5

"PlayStation 3 owners had to wait an extra year to get a crack at saving the galaxy one last time, and while the few extras and tweaks found in the exclusive international edition may seem a meager reward for your patience, they do make it the more enticing version to own . . . . The Last Hope remains a solid and mostly fun JRPG with a few character flaws that don't ultimately sink the ship. The international version is condensed onto a single disc, so there's no irritating swapping to deal with. Aside from the optional additional language tracks and the menu design tweaks, it doesn't hold any vast improvements over the Xbox 360 version. If you're hankering to suit up and go rid the galaxy of evil, you'll find this intrepid jaunt into the unknown packs enough danger and excitement to satisfy your sci-fi fantasy thrill-seeking urges."


Well, even with all the so-called improvements, it still ended up scoring the same as the Xbox 360 version; no doubt about that this is the superior version though.

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#2 aaronmullan
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Looked bad anyway.
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#3 supa_badman
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Star Ocean was never really that special. =\

Isn't this SE's first game released on the PS3 now?

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#4 Animal-Mother
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The game was good.
Nothing special. FF13 is the console rpg to wait for this gen.

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#5 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Looked bad anyway.aaronmullan
Well, still managed to get high A.
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#6 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Looked bad anyway.Stevo_the_gamer
Well, still managed to get high A.

Which is in the middle for GS.
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Maybe I'll get this... I've been itching for a decent JRPG and was horribly disappointed with WKC

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#8 tagyhag
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HAH called it. :D The game was meh on everything but the graphics/gameplay.
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#9 GreySeal9
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Looked bad anyway.aaronmullan

Combat system looks excellent, but the dungeons and character models look truly terrible. I'm so sick of these god awful character designs in games like Star Ocean and Eternal Sonata. White Knight Chronicles also has pretty bad character models.

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Maybe I'll get this... I've been itching for a decent JRPG and was horribly disappointed with WKC

WAIW

I've resigned myself to simply waiting for FFXIII.

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#11 ActicEdge
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Meh. Let me say that again. MEH. Yay for the beta testing mchine to keep up in scores with the none beta testing version !!!11!!

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Meh. Let me say that again. MEH. Yay for the beta testing mchine to keep up in scores with the none beta testing version !!!11!!

ActicEdge

That "beta-testing our games" talking point was always kind of dumb.

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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Looked bad anyway.GreySeal9

Combat system looks excellent, but the dungeons and character models look truly terrible. I'm so sick of these god awful character designs in games like Star Ocean and Eternal Sonata. White Knight Chronicles also has pretty bad character models.

WKC looks like a slightly better version of FFXII and that's a very, very bad thing.
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#14 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]HAH called it. :D The game was meh on everything but the graphics/gameplay.

I called it too! Game met the hype, if anyone cares... :P
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]HAH called it. :D The game was meh on everything but the graphics/gameplay.

I called it too! Game met the hype, if anyone cares... :P

Finalstar will be most disappointed. :(
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Can't say I wasn't expecting this. At least it has Japanese voices and no disc swapping.
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#17 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]HAH called it. :D The game was meh on everything but the graphics/gameplay.

I called it too! Game met the hype, if anyone cares... :P

Finalstar will be most disappointed. :(

I'm sure he's enjoying the game regardless of the score, besides 7.5 isn't even bad.
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#18 finalfantasy94
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I knew it was going to score the same.

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[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I called it too! Game met the hype, if anyone cares... :PsiLVURcross
Finalstar will be most disappointed. :(

I'm sure he's enjoying the game regardless of the score, besides 7.5 isn't even bad.

You're right it isn't bad, it's horrible. :P I still think it's disappointing how a whole year of improving the game didn't help it much. Oh and about the Japanese voices, they're rather bad, I was expecting more. :(
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#20 Racer_XLR
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So, square didn't improve much of anything?
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where is finalstar! somebody tell him to get off WKC and get over here :P

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After beating WKC and playing SO4 international for about 30 hours now I can confirm it again GS sux with JRPGs reviews WKC >> SO4 international if you add this to Lost odyssey 7.5 (deserved 9) and eternal sonata 8.5 (6 was too much for it) you will know that trusting GS JRPGs reviews is a crime.

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[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="tagyhag"] Finalstar will be most disappointed. :(

I'm sure he's enjoying the game regardless of the score, besides 7.5 isn't even bad.

You're right it isn't bad, it's horrible. :P I still think it's disappointing how a whole year of improving the game didn't help it much. Oh and about the Japanese voices, they're rather bad, I was expecting more. :(

So in the end, after 2 versions, we should just play this game mute as intended?
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So, square didn't improve much of anything?Racer_XLR
pretty much the better graphics never came to be what i've seen of the game it has the exact same graphics of the 360 version, the only thing it has is a small bit of additional content, and thats about it.
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So, square didn't improve much of anything?Racer_XLR
Do they ever?

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After beating WKC and playing SO4 international for about 30 hours now I can confirm it again GS sux with JRPGs reviews WKC >> SO4 international if you add this to Lost odyssey 7.5 (deserved 9) and eternal sonata 8.5 (6 was too much for it) you will know that trusting GS JRPGs reviews is a crime.

Kashiwaba

Eternal Sonata's character models look like ass but to say a 6 was too much for it is going WAY too far.

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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

After beating WKC and playing SO4 international for about 30 hours now I can confirm it again GS sux with JRPGs reviews WKC >> SO4 international if you add this to Lost odyssey 7.5 (deserved 9) and eternal sonata 8.5 (6 was too much for it) you will know that trusting GS JRPGs reviews is a crime.

GreySeal9

Eternal Sonata's character models look like ass but to say a 6 was too much for it is going WAY too far.

Eternal Sonata didn't have any good thing except its combat everything else was way below average.

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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"] I'm sure he's enjoying the game regardless of the score, besides 7.5 isn't even bad.

You're right it isn't bad, it's horrible. :P I still think it's disappointing how a whole year of improving the game didn't help it much. Oh and about the Japanese voices, they're rather bad, I was expecting more. :(

So in the end, after 2 versions, we should just play this game mute as intended?

I rather have Patrick Stewart do all the voice overs as God intended. Yes that includes Reimi and the like.
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#29 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

After beating WKC and playing SO4 international for about 30 hours now I can confirm it again GS sux with JRPGs reviews WKC >> SO4 international if you add this to Lost odyssey 7.5 (deserved 9) and eternal sonata 8.5 (6 was too much for it) you will know that trusting GS JRPGs reviews is a crime.

Kashiwaba

Eternal Sonata's character models look like ass but to say a 6 was too much for it is going WAY too far.

Eternal Sonata didn't have any good thing except its combat everything else was way below average.

So what exactly was WAY below average?

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#30 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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After beating WKC and playing SO4 international for about 30 hours now I can confirm it again GS sux with JRPGs reviews WKC >> SO4 international if you add this to Lost odyssey 7.5 (deserved 9) and eternal sonata 8.5 (6 was too much for it) you will know that trusting GS JRPGs reviews is a crime.

Kashiwaba

Well, comparing GS to Gamerankings and their reviews arn't far off from the averages at all...

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"Character designs are also hit or miss. It's hard to empathize with the game's protagonists when they don't emote much, and there are moments when the dialogue is painful to sit through. The main updates in the international edition are in the audio and visuals. Instead of listening to the bad English dubs, you can now switch the dialogue over to the original Japanese voice work (and a few other languages), which definitely gives the package a more authentic anime JRPG feel."

Ah, square. Now you're just trolling.

Well, I read the review. Looks like it's not much to look foward to. Bravo, square.

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#32 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Eternal Sonata's character models look like ass but to say a 6 was too much for it is going WAY too far.

GreySeal9

Eternal Sonata didn't have any good thing except its combat everything else was way below average.

So what exactly was WAY below average?

How should I put it Very bad story, bad art style and very lame characters the only thing which made me finish the game was the combat.

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#33 Kuromino  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Racer_XLR"]So, square didn't improve much of anything?aaronmullan

Do they ever?

Usually not, but I think The Last Remnant may actually be the exception. The 360 version scored a 6.5 on Gamespot. Four months later SquareEnix released the game on the PC and it managed to score an 8.0.

As for Star Ocean, I've been waiting to see if they were gonna review the international version. Appears to be getting some good scores, so I'll probably pick this up sometime after March.

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The 360 version was bad enough i dont know how they could have improved it. It was a waste of my 60 bucks
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#35 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Eternal Sonata didn't have any good thing except its combat everything else was way below average.

Kashiwaba

So what exactly was WAY below average?

How should I put it Very bad story, bad art style and very lame characters the only thing which made me finish the game was the combat.

Come on, how can you put it down for that when you played WKC? :P

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Didn't like SO4 before, I'm doubtful they fixed enough to change that.
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#37 Couth_
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After beating WKC and playing SO4 international for about 30 hours now I can confirm it again GS sux with JRPGs reviews WKC >> SO4 international if you add this to Lost odyssey 7.5 (deserved 9) and eternal sonata 8.5 (6 was too much for it) you will know that trusting GS JRPGs reviews is a crime.

Kashiwaba
Well different people reviewed almost all those games and they all shared their individual feelings on them. Kevin V just liked ES more than LO and well I think comparing games to each other is a relatively small part of the process.
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

So what exactly was WAY below average?

tagyhag

How should I put it Very bad story, bad art style and very lame characters the only thing which made me finish the game was the combat.

Come on, how can you put it down for that when you played WKC? :P

Well it's obvious, WKC has a better story, art style and very awesome characters. If only GS recognized those qualities!
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After beating WKC and playing SO4 international for about 30 hours now I can confirm it again GS sux with JRPGs reviews WKC >> SO4 international if you add this to Lost odyssey 7.5 (deserved 9) and eternal sonata 8.5 (6 was too much for it) you will know that trusting GS JRPGs reviews is a crime.

Kashiwaba
I'd disagree entirely. Eternal Sonata aside, they've been right on the money for me. Lost Odyssey is good but the 7.5 is very appropriate. Infinite Undiscovery? Blech. SO4? Pass.
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#40 SolidTy
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Well, even with all the so-called improvements, it still ended up scoring the same as the Xbox 360 version; no doubt about that this is the superior version.

Stevo_the_gamer

That's what many in SW already said would happen with such an aged port...No surprises here.

In fact, for nostalgia sake, I'm going to dig up that SW thread about HYPE SCORE and this game...yep, it's A by about 160 voters! :shock:

Who cares about Polls, check out my brilliant post regarding the game back then, it's pretty dang accurate...

"Obviously it's improved...BUT it's a year old. I think it will be a 7.5 again. Maybe 8.0."

Dang...I'm good.;)

:P

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I expected this, even with Cows shouting their "improvements", you just can't expect the game to score higher with those kind of improvements.
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Im inclined to believe you havnt played LO if you feel that 7.5 was deserved. Your definitely in the minority on that
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Im inclined to believe you havnt played LO if you feel that 7.5 was deserved. Your definitely in the minority on thatbigboss5ak

Best JRPGs this generation are

1- Lost odyssey

2- Valkyria chronicloes

3- ToV

and after them WKC > SO4 > TLR > Eternal sonata > Magna carta 2 and I still didnt play infinite undiscovery so I cant judge it (that list is for game which I played and excluded Demon's souls cuz its more of a WRPG).

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Well, even with all the so-called improvements, it still ended up scoring the same as the Xbox 360 version; no doubt about that this is the superior version.

SolidTy

That's what many in SW already said would happen with such an aged port...No surprises here.

The big surprise is that it actually scored a 7.5 too even though it didn't feel like anything new.:o

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Im inclined to believe you havnt played LO if you feel that 7.5 was deserved. Your definitely in the minority on thatbigboss5ak
I own it. I'm sure I am in the minority. I seem to be in the minority on any JRPG ever, unless we count reviewers.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Well, even with all the so-called improvements, it still ended up scoring the same as the Xbox 360 version; no doubt about that this is the superior version.

SolidTy

That's what many in SW already said would happen with such an aged port...No surprises here.

True, though some -- including you -- had hoped for AA, or suspected it might as such. Quite a few hyped it as AA.
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#47 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Looked bad anyway.Stevo_the_gamer
Well, still managed to get high A.

Word, 7.5 is in no way a bad score but who can honestly be surprised. I might check this out when it reaches 20 -30 dollars.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Well, even with all the so-called improvements, it still ended up scoring the same as the Xbox 360 version; no doubt about that this is the superior version.

That's what many in SW already said would happen with such an aged port...No surprises here.

True, though some -- including you -- had hoped for AA, or suspected it might as such. Quite a few hyped it as AA.

who cares what this game was hyped at though honestly so dudes were wrong move on.
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Maybe I'm not fully aware of what was added on from the 360 version but how does having all of the same stuff plus having more not make it any better?

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#50 Rza_rectah
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Maybe I'm not fully aware of what was added on from the 360 version but how does having all of the same stuff plus having more not make it any better?

BPoole96
who knows maybe the things square added wasnt enough to justify a higher score.