Steam Machines Annouced!

People forgot that part of SteamOS

"Access the full Steam catalog of nearly 3000 games and desktop software titles via in-home streaming."

Yes future title might be available to be played straight with SteamOS,but past won't. You will still need a PC to run the games

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="donalbane"]IT'S NOT A PC! It's like a Roku for Steam games. Jeez guys.Wasdie

Steam Machines are just PCs that are built around SteamOS. Valve has their own which will be open and upgradeable, but other comapnies may make non-upgradeable versions for cheaper. 

There is really no limit. You can build your own Steam Machine too. 

People forgot that part of SteamOS

"Access the full Steam catalog of nearly 3000 games and desktop software titles via in-home streaming."

Yes future title might be available to be played straight with SteamOS,but past won't. You will still need a PC to run the games

MonsieurX

I haven't forgot.

For Beta purposes I'm on board, but The OS itself is crappy.

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

It would just be stupid to not announce halflife 3 after all this, without it noones even going to remember these last 2 announcements aside from the diehard linux and valve fans.  They have to put that killer APP out there STAT.

LA-Nighthawk

But still not quite on the NeonNoir level.

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] if u use metacritic than i tell you what

99% of games that got more than 95 on metacritic Suck.SNIPER4321

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] if u use metacritic than i tell you what

99% of games that got more than 95 on metacritic Suck.

SNIPER4321

No one takes your opinion seriously Sniper

So is this equivalent to a new console announcement?  Or is this essentially just a PC with a smaller form factor? 

All I care is games Valve. Do you have any HL3, source 2, L4D3 to show? I don't give a crap about these OSs.

edidili

Exactly. Especially since it's an OPEN O/S which means it will be changed modified, hacked to death. I wouldn't run that on my HDTV. Steam will probably be the first thing hacked and then HLs will be prirated by millions. Good going Valve.

So is this equivalent to a new console announcement?  Or is this essentially just a PC with a smaller form factor? 

Crossel777

Then what make it cheaper than other PC in the market? If it's not cheaper, then what's the advantage? Given the size (it'll be compact), upgrade option won't be as freely as a full desktop, so there're still restriction in someway. rjdofu

Some will be cheaper, they will be more compact, they will be built around a TV, and it sounds like SteamOS is built around a controller. They are still PCs at heart, but they are making the HTPC a much more viable option for the every-day consumer.

Right now consumers have dozens of choices for netflix and other streaming. Consoles, blu-ray players, TVs, it's a mess and the apps are all over the place. This is a great option to have all of the native PC apps running on one machine. Simple and easy.

The SteamOS also opens up a lot of potential streaming capabilities. Imagine in the future the ability to stream your moblie device's screen right to the TV through SteamOS and a Steam Machine. 

Steam Machines aren't going to be marketed to a wider audience. It's more of an evolution of the Steam Ecosystem for existing consumers. It will continue to expand at a slow, yet steady pace as they continue to include more and more features. It's also a move away from Windows and the first Linux based OS that is built around gaming. 

[QUOTE="edidili"]

All I care is games Valve. Do you have any HL3, source 2, L4D3 to show? I don't give a crap about these OSs.

blackace

Exactly. Especially since it's an OPEN O/S which means it will be changed modified, hacked to death. I wouldn't run that on my HDTV. Steam will probably be the first thing hacked and then HLs will be prirated by millions. Good going Valve.

Can't wait to see 5-6 Steam Machines sitting on shelves next to PS4/Xbox One. Consumers love to be confused. But in all honesty, this is a great potential product if you're a console only gamer and want to get into PC gaming with a potentially lower cost and living room-based solution. The problem is, we don't know the price or specs at all, so this announcement is pretty null and void. I think Steam OS is a far more exciting announcement than Steam Machines. I mean, Piston was a SteamMachine and it was going to cost $999 bucks. That's not really going to move the needle. I was hoping this announcement would be a Valve created box, with some specs to give you an idea of what it can do. We got nothing here, just potential and frankly you'd be better off just building a top tier PC and streaming your PC to your TV via SteamOS.

LordOfPoms

They did say you can build your own SteamBox. ;)

Put your own hardware in it. Load SteamOS onto it and let the world hack your system to death. :lol:

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"]

Can't wait to see 5-6 Steam Machines sitting on shelves next to PS4/Xbox One. Consumers love to be confused. But in all honesty, this is a great potential product if you're a console only gamer and want to get into PC gaming with a potentially lower cost and living room-based solution. The problem is, we don't know the price or specs at all, so this announcement is pretty null and void. I think Steam OS is a far more exciting announcement than Steam Machines. I mean, Piston was a SteamMachine and it was going to cost $999 bucks. That's not really going to move the needle. I was hoping this announcement would be a Valve created box, with some specs to give you an idea of what it can do. We got nothing here, just potential and frankly you'd be better off just building a top tier PC and streaming your PC to your TV via SteamOS.

blackace

They did say you can build your own SteamBox. ;)

Put your own hardware in it. Load SteamOS onto it and let the world hack your system to death. :lol:

And hacking is not a bad thing, it all depends on how people utilize it.

Guys, take your personal arguments between each other about metacritic or whatever out of this thread. It's derailing it and has no point being here. I won't warn again.

[QUOTE="Raziel831991"]

Half Life 3 or GTFO

ramonnl

Half life 3, exclusive to steam box ^^

Ok I've been busy as shit this week, can someone tell me what's going on in simple terms?

SteamOS and Steam boxes (plural)? That all?

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]What matters now is the price point. If it costs more than a PS4/XB1 there won't be any reason to own one, and you may as well settle for a gaming PC. Desmonic

The OS is free, it was already announced

Ok I've been busy as shit this week, can someone tell me what's going on in simple terms?

SteamOS and Steam boxes (plural)? That all?

seanmcloughlin

That's all so far

Wow, I'm really confused. What's the estimated price point, then? If it's more than $100, I'll be sticking with my 32' HDMI cable.donalbane

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="edidili"]

All I care is games Valve. Do you have any HL3, source 2, L4D3 to show? I don't give a crap about these OSs.

LA-Nighthawk

Exactly. Especially since it's an OPEN O/S which means it will be changed modified, hacked to death. I wouldn't run that on my HDTV. Steam will probably be the first thing hacked and then HLs will be prirated by millions. Good going Valve.

True, but people running it on a SteamBox can have their personal info hacked as well now. Linux isn't secure and neither will the SteamBox. It'll be interesting to see how much these systems retail for. Supposedly there will be different prices. This whole thing reminds me of the disaster called the 3DO. lol!! There will like 5-6 different systems from 5-6 different manufactures and they were ALL expensive. All of them eventually went under after about 3 years.

Wow, I'm really confused. What's the estimated price point, then? If it's more than $100, I'll be sticking with my 32' HDMI cable.donalbane

Wow, I'm really confused. What's the estimated price point, then? If it's more than $100, I'll be sticking with my 32' HDMI cable.donalbane

It will be all over the place. There are multiple Steam Machines. Some could be $99 that just have enough power to stream, others are full blown PCs. 

I have a 50' HDMI cable hooked up to my reciever in my other room but it's a pain in the ass to use. I would rather just run a Steam Machine. 

[QUOTE="LA-Nighthawk"][QUOTE="blackace"]

Exactly. Especially since it's an OPEN O/S which means it will be changed modified, hacked to death. I wouldn't run that on my HDTV. Steam will probably be the first thing hacked and then HLs will be prirated by millions. Good going Valve.

blackace

True, but people running it on a SteamBox can have their personal info hacked as well now. Linux isn't secure and neither will the SteamBox. It'll be interesting to see how much these systems retail for. Supposedly there will be different prices. This whole thing reminds me of the disaster called the 3DO. lol!! There will like 5-6 different systems from 5-6 different manufactures and they were ALL expensive. All of them eventually went under after about 3 years.

maybe wait until they actually reveal the Steambox 

Half-Life 3 please!

I will be utterly disappointed if that isn't the case.

These announcements are highly underwhelming to me because I already have my monster gaming pc along with all the consoles set up quite comfortably in my living room.

[QUOTE="LA-Nighthawk"][QUOTE="blackace"]

Exactly. Especially since it's an OPEN O/S which means it will be changed modified, hacked to death. I wouldn't run that on my HDTV. Steam will probably be the first thing hacked and then HLs will be prirated by millions. Good going Valve.

blackace

True, but people running it on a SteamBox can have their personal info hacked as well now. Linux isn't secure and neither will the SteamBox. It'll be interesting to see how much these systems retail for. Supposedly there will be different prices. This whole thing reminds me of the disaster called the 3DO. lol!! There will like 5-6 different systems from 5-6 different manufactures and they were ALL expensive. All of them eventually went under after about 3 years.

[QUOTE="LA-Nighthawk"][QUOTE="blackace"]

Exactly. Especially since it's an OPEN O/S which means it will be changed modified, hacked to death. I wouldn't run that on my HDTV. Steam will probably be the first thing hacked and then HLs will be prirated by millions. Good going Valve.

blackace

True, but people running it on a SteamBox can have their personal info hacked as well now. Linux isn't secure and neither will the SteamBox. It'll be interesting to see how much these systems retail for. Supposedly there will be different prices. This whole thing reminds me of the disaster called the 3DO. lol!! There will like 5-6 different systems from 5-6 different manufactures and they were ALL expensive. All of them eventually went under after about 3 years.

Linux is extreamly secure.  Thats why its the OS of choice for servers and a lot of industrial applications.

Half-Life 3 please!

I will be utterly disappointed if that isn't the case.

Cyberdot

All these announcements are about Steam and the Living room.  

[QUOTE="Desmonic"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]What matters now is the price point. If it costs more than a PS4/XB1 there won't be any reason to own one, and you may as well settle for a gaming PC. cobrax55

The OS is free, it was already announced

Yes, but the hardware it will be running out won't be FREE. :lol: They did say that you can build your own hardware, but if you already have the ultimate PC hardware, why would you need to build your own SteamBox? I'm not exactly sure who they are aiming this product for. I'm thinking PC gamers, as console gamers won't even waste their time with that crap. Especially if the price is the same or more then the PS4 and XB1.

[QUOTE="donalbane"]Wow, I'm really confused. What's the estimated price point, then? If it's more than $100, I'll be sticking with my 32' HDMI cable.MonsieurX

[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

Half-Life 3 please!

I will be utterly disappointed if that isn't the case.

lostrib

All these announcements are about Steam and the Living room.  

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"]

Can't wait to see 5-6 Steam Machines sitting on shelves next to PS4/Xbox One. Consumers love to be confused. But in all honesty, this is a great potential product if you're a console only gamer and want to get into PC gaming with a potentially lower cost and living room-based solution. The problem is, we don't know the price or specs at all, so this announcement is pretty null and void. I think Steam OS is a far more exciting announcement than Steam Machines. I mean, Piston was a SteamMachine and it was going to cost $999 bucks. That's not really going to move the needle. I was hoping this announcement would be a Valve created box, with some specs to give you an idea of what it can do. We got nothing here, just potential and frankly you'd be better off just building a top tier PC and streaming your PC to your TV via SteamOS.

rjdofu

They did say you can build your own SteamBox. ;)

Put your own hardware in it. Load SteamOS onto it and let the world hack your system to death. :lol:

And hacking is not a bad thing, it all depends on how people utilize it.

People would hack it anyway. With or without Steam permission.

[QUOTE="donalbane"]Wow, I'm really confused. What's the estimated price point, then? If it's more than $100, I'll be sticking with my 32' HDMI cable.Wasdie

It will be all over the place. There are multiple Steam Machines. Some could be $99 that just have enough power to stream, others are full blown PCs. 

I have a 50' HDMI cable hooked up to my reciever in my other room but it's a pain in the ass to use. I would rather just run a Steam Machine. 

Price point is what I'm wondering at this moment.  It's got to be affordable if they're chasing the console market.

I don't want this to not succeed...in fact, I would prefer the PC to takeover the consoles completely, but I don't really understand what Valve was thinking. Right now, I have no reason to get a Steambox. At least with consoles, it gives me a different experience with exclusive titles, but with the Steambox? I already have one, and it doesn't just play games. :)percech

You're kind of missing the point of the SteamOS and Steam Machines. It's just a continued evolution of the Steam, giving Steam users even more options to play games. This is helping us break away from having to play on a traditional PC/laptop setup and gives us more freedoms. It also makes home theater PCs a much more viable option for people.

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

[QUOTE="blackace"]

They did say you can build your own SteamBox. ;)

Put your own hardware in it. Load SteamOS onto it and let the world hack your system to death. :lol:

jhonMalcovich

And hacking is not a bad thing, it all depends on how people utilize it.

People would hack it anyway. With or without Steam permission.

Its an open source OS, its desinged to be open to hacking in the first place.

nothing but hot air