Steam Machines Annouced!

The only way Valve will convince anyone to get a Steambox is if they make HL3 exclusive to it.percech

how would they do that? or why would they do that?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="donalbane"]Wow, I'm really confused. What's the estimated price point, then? If it's more than $100, I'll be sticking with my 32' HDMI cable.donalbane

It will be all over the place. There are multiple Steam Machines. Some could be $99 that just have enough power to stream, others are full blown PCs. 

I have a 50' HDMI cable hooked up to my reciever in my other room but it's a pain in the ass to use. I would rather just run a Steam Machine. 

That would work if my PC was in the same room as my TV. They are in different rooms. 

The SteamBox will be good for me and people who want to hook up mulitple TVs. It's not really a product to get excited for unless you are in the situation where it could benifit you. 

[QUOTE="donalbane"]Wow, I'm really confused. What's the estimated price point, then? If it's more than $100, I'll be sticking with my 32' HDMI cable.Wasdie

It will be all over the place. There are multiple Steam Machines. Some could be $99 that just have enough power to stream, others are full blown PCs.

I have a 50' HDMI cable hooked up to my reciever in my other room but it's a pain in the ass to use. I would rather just run a Steam Machine.

Ok. I just have one question though. Won't this confuse the hell out of consumers?

[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

Half-Life 3 please!

I will be utterly disappointed if that isn't the case.

lostrib

All these announcements are about Steam and the Living room.  

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="donalbane"]Wow, I'm really confused. What's the estimated price point, then? If it's more than $100, I'll be sticking with my 32' HDMI cable.blackace

It will be all over the place. There are multiple Steam Machines. Some could be $99 that just have enough power to stream, others are full blown PCs.

I have a 50' HDMI cable hooked up to my reciever in my other room but it's a pain in the ass to use. I would rather just run a Steam Machine.

Ok. I just have one question though. Won't this confuse the hell out of consumers?

Not if they market it right. It's not that confusing. It's a PC that you plug into your TV. You can stream your movies from your PC (and hopefully in the future tablets/mobile devices) to it as well. It can do 

They need to market it as a PC for your TV. That's a lot less confusing. That's exactly what it is. 

[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

Half-Life 3 please!

I will be utterly disappointed if that isn't the case.

lostrib

All these announcements are about Steam and the Living room.  

By looking at the URL of this website, I think you're correct. :(

These announcements are highly underwhelming to me because I already have my monster gaming pc along with all the consoles set up quite comfortably in my living room.

Frostbite24

This ^ ^ ^ ^

The same thing could be said for the Ouya as well. Already have a Kindle and a Android phone. What's the point of Ouya with it's crappy controllers and interface?

With SteamOS, it would actually make more sense to have maybe 2 SKU's for it instead of letting a dozen manufacturers make their own hardware and try to sell them at various prices. It seems like Valve didn't want to spend millions in R&D for the hardware and lose millions if it failed. They would rather have other manufacturers spend their millions doing that while they make a large profit licensing the games that will run on SteamOS and on the hardware.

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

It will be all over the place. There are multiple Steam Machines. Some could be $99 that just have enough power to stream, others are full blown PCs. 

I have a 50' HDMI cable hooked up to my reciever in my other room but it's a pain in the ass to use. I would rather just run a Steam Machine. 

Wasdie

That would work if my PC was in the same room as my TV. They are in different rooms. 

The SteamBox will be good for me and people who want to hook up mulitple TVs. It's not really a product to get excited for unless you are in the situation where it could benifit you. 

in other news.

Family Sharing Beta has started.

Only a 1000 people this time.

  .

  .

HarlockJC

They're shipping 300 beta units. Not 30.

Though the first 30 are hand picked so I guess that is something to write home about.

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

It will be all over the place. There are multiple Steam Machines. Some could be $99 that just have enough power to stream, others are full blown PCs.

I have a 50' HDMI cable hooked up to my reciever in my other room but it's a pain in the ass to use. I would rather just run a Steam Machine.

Wasdie

Ok. I just have one question though. Won't this confuse the hell out of consumers?

Not if they market it right. It's not that confusing. It's a PC that you plug into your TV. You can stream your movies from your PC (and hopefully in the future tablets/mobile devices) to it as well. It can do

They need to market it as a PC for your TV. That's a lot less confusing. That's exactly what it is.

I understand that. I'm talking about all the different options with the hardware and all the different prices it will have. You have 7-8 different SteamBox on the shelf with various prices, consumers are going to want to know what the differences are between each system. There will be a LOT of questions. That's what I mean by confusing.

They're shipping 300 beta units. Not 30.

Though the first 30 are hand picked so I guess that is something to write home about.

LegatoSkyheart

HMMMM...Like this it makes it look like I want to be in Sparta 

I understand that. I'm talking about all the different options with the hardware and all the different prices it will have. You have 7-8 different SteamBox on the shelf with various prices, consumers are going to want to know what the differences are between each system. There will be a LOT of questions. That's what I mean by confusing.

blackace

That's why they need to think of a good way of marketing them.

It's Valve. They are good at making things easy.

Interesting. Valve taking it easy rather than rushing with out thiniing.

Hint. Hint.

The pricing will be a big issue.  I doubt a gaming PC that is the size of your palm, upgradable and could rival the PS4 will be under $500.

And for people like me who already own a gaming PC, why would I need a steam machine?

So are these systems trying to bridge a gap between console and PC? 

I still don't see a reason to have SteamOS over windows for gaming

And for people like me who already own a gaming PC, why would I need a steam machine?

drekula2

You wouldn't, it's not being targeted at you

The way I see it it's for the people who want to get into PC gaming but are intimidated by it either spec wise, building wise or price wise. These offer flexible solutions but a lot will hinge on the price. 

Valve are smart cookies though 

The pricing will be a big issue.  I doubt a gaming PC that is the size of your palm, upgradable and could rival the PS4 will be under $500.

And for people like me who already own a gaming PC, why would I need a steam machine?

drekula2

So are these systems trying to bridge a gap between console and PC? 

I still don't see a reason to have SteamOS over windows for gaming

seanmcloughlin

I think it further extends the capabilities of existing Windows gaming PCs. SteamOS allows the primary gaming PC to be the centeral hub of entertainment throughout the house.

So does does this mean pre-builts are going to be cool now?DaBrainz

Pre-builts have always been cool and will keep on being cool. 

It's called PC for a reason. Is personal, the hardware you choose not whatever closed box some company decides is the hot thing for the moment. 

Which makes me wonder, wil these steam machines be upgradable? Like upgrading the RAM later on for example or the GPU.

So are these systems trying to bridge a gap between console and PC? 

I still don't see a reason to have SteamOS over windows for gaming

seanmcloughlin

SteamOS should in theory at least give you better performence then what you would get out of Windows.  Thought driver support needs to catch up first.

HL3 exclusives for steamOS with good profermance on the steamboxes and I'm sold :lol: :shock:

So are these systems trying to bridge a gap between console and PC? 

I still don't see a reason to have SteamOS over windows for gaming

seanmcloughlin

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

So are these systems trying to bridge a gap between console and PC? 

I still don't see a reason to have SteamOS over windows for gaming

Wasdie

I think it further extends the capabilities of existing Windows gaming PCs. SteamOS allows the primary gaming PC to be the centeral hub of entertainment throughout the house.

So the OS is more geared towards media only PCs? 

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

So are these systems trying to bridge a gap between console and PC? 

I still don't see a reason to have SteamOS over windows for gaming

seanmcloughlin

I think it further extends the capabilities of existing Windows gaming PCs. SteamOS allows the primary gaming PC to be the centeral hub of entertainment throughout the house.

So the OS is more geared towards media only PCs? 

Nah, it will play games, just ones that run on Linux. clyde46

It all seems rather pointless to me

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Nah, it will play games, just ones that run on Linux. seanmcloughlin

It all seems rather pointless to me

[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="Couth_"]RIP in peace consolesDavekeeh

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]Half life 3 as PC exclusive would be my dream game.jhonMalcovich

It will if I say so. :evil:

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Won't stay exclusiveSpartan070

It will if I say so. :evil:

Valve makes far more money off steam then they do off direct game sales, getting people unto steam is far more profitable for them then actually selling games, they have themselves said this before

Seriously, Microsoft needs to release a slightly stripped down gaming version of Windows for $50 in response to this. If people can get a free OS that runs every PC game, Windows will suffer if Microsoft doesn't put out a cheap alternative on the market...superclocked

If Steam OS success in sme way i would not be suppriced if they did that, or upgrade Windows Media Center OS (im not even sure if they still produce that) to play games. Problem is Windows MArket is nothing compired to steam, not to mention with shuting down GFWL they loseing there gaming social network on PC (which reagdles what people say, i still think was a bad move)

[QUOTE="locopatho"]So it's just a PC running a Valve OS... can anyone tell me what's different about just plugging a desktop into a TV and opening Steam?jhonMalcovich

It comes pre-built. For dummy consolites that can not build their own PC.

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]So it's just a PC running a Valve OS... can anyone tell me what's different about just plugging a desktop into a TV and opening Steam?locopatho

It comes pre-built. For dummy consolites that can not build their own PC.

I think it's more living room friendly with the form factor. Because when you think about it consoles are just prebuilt pcs with a custom OS.

Hurry up Valve. Release SteamOS. I want to play with it. 

[QUOTE="ramonnl"]

[QUOTE="Raziel831991"]

Half Life 3 or GTFO

blackace

Half life 3, exclusive to steam box ^^

They'll lose millions in sales if they did that crap and alienated the PC fanboys.

Steambox uses SteamOS which PC can also use so they wouldnt be alienating anyone but console fanboys.

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="ramonnl"] 

Half life 3, exclusive to steam box ^^

pelvist

They'll lose millions in sales if they did that crap and alienated the PC fanboys.

 Steambox uses SteamOS which PC can also use so they wouldnt be alienating anyone but console fanboys.

Agreed. 

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]So it's just a PC running a Valve OS... can anyone tell me what's different about just plugging a desktop into a TV and opening Steam?locopatho

It comes pre-built. For dummy consolites that can not build their own PC.

What advantage of the PC does it lose?

The most exciting news from all this is the linux based OS that's finally getting nvidia support.  Maybe they can shake some market space from Microsoft's cold dead grip.  Especially if they use a better solution than the dinosaur direct x API.

ReadingRainbow4

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

The most exciting news from all this is the linux based OS that's finally getting nvidia support.  Maybe they can shake some market space from Microsoft's cold dead grip.  Especially if they use a better solution than the dinosaur direct x API.

Hexagon_777

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

The most exciting news from all this is the linux based OS that's finally getting nvidia support.  Maybe they can shake some market space from Microsoft's cold dead grip.  Especially if they use a better solution than the dinosaur direct x API.

superclocked

There's also this.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="locopatho"]So it's just a PC running a Valve OS... can anyone tell me what's different about just plugging a desktop into a TV and opening Steam?ShadowriverUB

OS specialized for games :> Windows not wasteing resources of your hardware as system just runs steam big picture.

[QUOTE="blackace"]

I understand that. I'm talking about all the different options with the hardware and all the different prices it will have. You have 7-8 different SteamBox on the shelf with various prices, consumers are going to want to know what the differences are between each system. There will be a LOT of questions. That's what I mean by confusing.

Wasdie

That's why they need to think of a good way of marketing them.

It's Valve. They are good at making things easy.

We'll see. STEAM wasn't an overnight success.

The pricing will be a big issue.  I doubt a gaming PC that is the size of your palm, upgradable and could rival the PS4 will be under $500.

And for people like me who already own a gaming PC, why would I need a steam machine?

drekula2

That was one of my big questions. Who are they marketing this to. Developers? Because developers seem to be the ones praising it the most so far. Console gamers aren't interested. Some PC gamers might be interested, but I doubt millions will be. Developers seem to love it because it's open source. I can see them buying it, making games for it and playing their own developed games on the HDTV with it. The people who created Ouya & OnLive though there was a market for their products as well.