Street Fighter 5 introduces console exclusive branding

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@Salt_The_Fries said:

@davem1992: I want to challenge you to a duel in Killer Instinct. I expect you to show some testicles and accept my challenge. Can somebody come up with some funny SW-related consequences of loss and win?

Loser buys a Wii U!

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#154 Legend002
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They did it for SW.

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#155  Edited By kvally
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@kvally: Is the MS logo anywhere in the actual game itself? I only got to try an hour of it at my girlfriends brothers house so I dunno.

Bottom right corner, on the back next to the UPC code it has the Microsoft logo on it as publisher.

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@kvally said:
@davem1992 said:

@kvally: Is the MS logo anywhere in the actual game itself? I only got to try an hour of it at my girlfriends brothers house so I dunno.

Bottom right corner, on the back next to the UPC code it has the Microsoft logo on it as publisher.

Aaaaaaaaaaaah fair enough, anyway think I'm done here xP

Sorry for giving false info like that, have a good day.

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@bunchanumbers said:

Its smart. Lying to their fanbase about exclusivity is not only smart, but its profitable. All the casuals who look at it will just assume its the only place you can get Street Fighter and go to PS4 to get it. But the real issue is that Street Fighter isn't really all that casual of a series anymore. Especially this one. Almost all casual fans gave up on Street fighter once they started on all the alpha stuff. And to me SF5 is pretty much Alpha 4.

You don't seem to know what you're talking about here. There are no "lies" to be seen. Your whole post is is more a lie than anything being discussed in this thread since it's a lie to say that what was shown on that cover is a lie.

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Definitely do not see any mention of "Xbox Exclusive" on the copy I have at home. @davem1992 You should put your bias aside and play the game, it's probably the best game on the X1 right now, no excuses.

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@suicidesn0wman said:

Definitely do not see any mention of "Xbox Exclusive" on the copy I have at home. @davem1992 You should put your bias aside and play the game, it's probably the best game on the X1 right now, no excuses.

I have it pre-ordered on Steam

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#160 Douevenlift_bro
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TLHBO. I remember when lems thought K.I was a big deal lol

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#161 kvally
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Best game I have played this gen. It's just awesome.

@suicidesn0wman said:

Definitely do not see any mention of "Xbox Exclusive" on the copy I have at home. @davem1992 You should put your bias aside and play the game, it's probably the best game on the X1 right now, no excuses.

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#162 DarkrecoN
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Sony are so obessed with the word exlusive

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#163 StrongBlackVine
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Any PC gamer that wants this game would know it is available to them. This is nothing.

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#164 Legend002
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Rise of the Timed Raider is a fake exclusive since it was announced. Why is it even being mentioned in this thread?

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#165 lostrib
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@Legend002: something about Xbox exclusive on the box art or the lack there of

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#166 finalstar2007
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@darkrecon said:

Sony are so obessed with the word exlusive

You mean just like M$?? Rise of the tomb raider? titanfall?

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@unrealgunner said:

Sony are desperate trying to deceive gamers that's one of the reasons why I hate that company.

So much salt lol

Salty or not, the term "console exclusive" is deceptive.

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#168  Edited By GreySeal9
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@davem1992 said:
@unrealgunner said:

Sony are desperate trying to deceive gamers that's one of the reasons why I hate that company.

How is this deceiving ANYONE, this game is a console exclusive.

Hell I saw RoTR being plastered as an Xbox exclusive around the time the PC version was announced, take it you hate MS as well?

No such thing as a console exclusive.

Exclusive means that it's not on another system. By using the word console exclusive, Sony is avoiding outright saying it is exclusive to PS4 but is still trying to creative the impression that it's exclusive when it's not.

If you can't see that, I think you should take some rhetoric courses.

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@MonsieurX said:
@finalstar2007 said:
@MonsieurX said:

What a smart marketing attempt

fixed

Trying to fool idiots is by no means smart marketing

Huh? Fooling idiots is like the key to smart marketing.

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#170  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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Lems are so mad right now. Sony should have just put not on xbone on the box lol.

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#171  Edited By Legend002
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@lostrib said:

@Legend002: something about Xbox exclusive on the box art or the lack there of

Not why would that be on the box if it's not exclusive?

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@bunchanumbers said:
@davem1992 said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Its smart. Lying to their fanbase about exclusivity is not only smart, but its profitable. All the casuals who look at it will just assume its the only place you can get Street Fighter and go to PS4 to get it. But the real issue is that Street Fighter isn't really all that casual of a series anymore. Especially this one. Almost all casual fans gave up on Street fighter once they started on all the alpha stuff. And to me SF5 is pretty much Alpha 4.

That's the thing though, they're not lying.

It is factually only available console wise on PS4, this isn't like the RoTR boxes here where it states "Xbox exclusive".

Its deception. Its like when they said that KZ was 1080p. Or the black bars in The Order. Its always a little obfuscation to hide that its not what they say it is. I've come to expect it with Sony. I'm not shocked. I'm praising Sony for doing it.

This is exactly what's happening.

It's sad that people are such apologists on this forum that they put on their critical thinking caps and see this.

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#173  Edited By GreySeal9
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@waahahah said:
@unrealgunner said:
@delta3074 said:

Oh the Irony, Sony fanboys last gen claiming there was no such thing as a console exclusive when xbox fans bought up games like left4dead and th witcher 2.

does this mean that DR3 and ryse are classed as console exclusives now

There is no such thing as a console exclusive any intelligent person knows that

Exclusive doesn't mean what you think it means...

it means to exclude so, an exclusive game is one that excludes 1 or more platforms. Its also a relative term and most of the time its implied to be exclusive in relation to xbox/ps/pc but generally disregarding mobile/handhelds/wii u.

Nope. It's not a relative term. It's only relative because fanboys of all stripes want it to be relative.

This is the definition: "restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned."

If a game not limited or restricted to a certain console, it's not an exclusive. Street Fighter V is not restricted or limited to PS4 if you can get it on PC.

There is no reason to restrict PC from the discussion to talk about exclusivity unless you're in Sony's marketing team and you want to make a non-exclusive look like an exclusive.

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#174 kvally
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@GreySeal9: not to mention the definitive version will still be on the Microsoft platform.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Lems are so mad right now. Sony should have just put not on xbone on the box lol.

That would be far more honest than "console exclusive."

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@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Lems are so mad right now. Sony should have just put not on xbone on the box lol.

That would be far more honest than "console exclusive."

PC isn't a console so it actually is honest.

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@kvally said:

@GreySeal9: not to mention the definitive version will still be on the Microsoft platform.

Yeah but MS get no money for it so it hardly matters

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@casharmy said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Its smart. Lying to their fanbase about exclusivity is not only smart, but its profitable. All the casuals who look at it will just assume its the only place you can get Street Fighter and go to PS4 to get it. But the real issue is that Street Fighter isn't really all that casual of a series anymore. Especially this one. Almost all casual fans gave up on Street fighter once they started on all the alpha stuff. And to me SF5 is pretty much Alpha 4.

You don't seem to know what you're talking about here. There are no "lies" to be seen. Your whole post is is more a lie than anything being discussed in this thread since it's a lie to say that what was shown on that cover is a lie.

What he's saying is that it's a form of dishonesty. Equivocation or fudging of terms is just as much an act of dishonesty as an outright lie.

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#179  Edited By GreySeal9
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Lems are so mad right now. Sony should have just put not on xbone on the box lol.

That would be far more honest than "console exclusive."

PC isn't a console so it actually is honest.

No, it's not.

"Console exclusive" is a made up term used to hide the fact that the game is not actually exclusive. The use of the term "console exclusive" is itself an act of dishonesty. It's just as dishonest now as it was when lems were trying to pass off multiplats as exclusives last gen.

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@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Lems are so mad right now. Sony should have just put not on xbone on the box lol.

That would be far more honest than "console exclusive."

PC isn't a console so it actually is honest.

No, it's not.

"Console exclusive" is a made up term used to hide the fact that the game is not actually exclusive. What I'm saying is that the use of the term "console exclusive" is itself an act of dishonesty. It's just as dishonest now as it was when lems were trying to pass off multiplats as exclusives last gen.

What other console is SFV on? You're so salty over this lol.

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#181 GreySeal9
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Lems are so mad right now. Sony should have just put not on xbone on the box lol.

That would be far more honest than "console exclusive."

PC isn't a console so it actually is honest.

No, it's not.

"Console exclusive" is a made up term used to hide the fact that the game is not actually exclusive. What I'm saying is that the use of the term "console exclusive" is itself an act of dishonesty. It's just as dishonest now as it was when lems were trying to pass off multiplats as exclusives last gen.

What other console is SFV on?

There's no such thing as a console exclusive. Something is either exclusive or it isn't. SFV is a multiplat.

Using the word salty will not change that.

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@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@GreySeal9 said:

That would be far more honest than "console exclusive."

PC isn't a console so it actually is honest.

No, it's not.

"Console exclusive" is a made up term used to hide the fact that the game is not actually exclusive. What I'm saying is that the use of the term "console exclusive" is itself an act of dishonesty. It's just as dishonest now as it was when lems were trying to pass off multiplats as exclusives last gen.

What other console is SFV on?

There's no such thing as a console exclusive. Something is either exclusive or it isn't. SFV is a multiplat.

Using the word salty will not change that.

You're delusional. Console exclusive makes perfect sense. Only sad lems like you get so butthurt over it. M$ has lived off console exclusives since the inception of the Xbox brand and now that Sony is giving them a taste of their own medicine you can't handle it.

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#183 waahahah
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@GreySeal9 said:
@waahahah said:
@unrealgunner said:
@delta3074 said:

Oh the Irony, Sony fanboys last gen claiming there was no such thing as a console exclusive when xbox fans bought up games like left4dead and th witcher 2.

does this mean that DR3 and ryse are classed as console exclusives now

There is no such thing as a console exclusive any intelligent person knows that

Exclusive doesn't mean what you think it means...

it means to exclude so, an exclusive game is one that excludes 1 or more platforms. Its also a relative term and most of the time its implied to be exclusive in relation to xbox/ps/pc but generally disregarding mobile/handhelds/wii u.

Nope. It's not a relative term. It's only relative because fanboys of all stripes want it to be relative.

This is the definition: "restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned."

If a game not limited or restricted to a certain console, it's not an exclusive. Street Fighter V is not restricted or limited to PS4 if you can get it on PC.

There is no reason to restrict PC from the discussion to talk about exclusivity unless you're in Sony's marketing team and you want to make a non-exclusive look like an exclusive.

Its a relative term,

  1. excluding or not admitting other things."my exclusive focus is on San Antonio issues"
  2. restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned."the couple had exclusive possession of the condo"

Both of these are relative if your comparing consoles. Otherwise the definition you listed would make every game exclusive in some way. Fallout 4 is exclusive because it is restricted to the a group of systems that contains xbox/ps4/PC.

or

noun. an item or story published or broadcast by only one source.

This is a bit closer to the way system wars tries to use it. But again every game could be considered exclusive unless it had multiple publishers... Its ambiguity is still pretty bad depending on the definition. There's even a difference calling it an exclusive vs is exclusive. The easiest way to understand it is the first defintion, the game has excluded some series of consoles from a particular selection of all consoles.

The point is exclusive can many different things depending on context its being used in... I think I meant contextual term.

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#184  Edited By GreySeal9
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@GreySeal9 said:

No, it's not.

"Console exclusive" is a made up term used to hide the fact that the game is not actually exclusive. What I'm saying is that the use of the term "console exclusive" is itself an act of dishonesty. It's just as dishonest now as it was when lems were trying to pass off multiplats as exclusives last gen.

What other console is SFV on?

There's no such thing as a console exclusive. Something is either exclusive or it isn't. SFV is a multiplat.

Using the word salty will not change that.

You're delusional. Console exclusive makes perfect sense.

Doesn't make sense to call me delusional when you are championing a fake term.

Again:

Exclusive means: "restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned."

Multi-plat means: "on more than one platform."

Street Fighter V is a multiplat.

This is not a difficult concept.

Disclaimer: I deleted all the "you're a lem" nonsense. Not relevant.

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@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@GreySeal9 said:

No, it's not.

"Console exclusive" is a made up term used to hide the fact that the game is not actually exclusive. What I'm saying is that the use of the term "console exclusive" is itself an act of dishonesty. It's just as dishonest now as it was when lems were trying to pass off multiplats as exclusives last gen.

What other console is SFV on?

There's no such thing as a console exclusive. Something is either exclusive or it isn't. SFV is a multiplat.

Using the word salty will not change that.

You're delusional. Console exclusive makes perfect sense.

Doesn't make sense to call me delusional when you are championing a fake term.

Again:

Exclusive means: "restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned."

Multi-plat means: "one more than one platform."

Street Fighter V is a multiplat.

This is not a difficult concept.

Disclaimer: I deleted all the "you're a lem" nonsense. Not relevant.

The area/group is console as stated by the term console exclusive. You're reaching too hard to hate on Sony here man.

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@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

What other console is SFV on?

There's no such thing as a console exclusive. Something is either exclusive or it isn't. SFV is a multiplat.

Using the word salty will not change that.

You're delusional. Console exclusive makes perfect sense.

Doesn't make sense to call me delusional when you are championing a fake term.

Again:

Exclusive means: "restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned."

Multi-plat means: "one more than one platform."

Street Fighter V is a multiplat.

This is not a difficult concept.

Disclaimer: I deleted all the "you're a lem" nonsense. Not relevant.

its not a difficult concept that multiplat and exclusive aren't contridicting each other in that scenario. "restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned.".

Both deal in terms of more than one. So lets say we have 3 systems... if 2 out of 3 have a game, that game is both exclusive and multiplat.

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No way to defend this. Console exclusive implies that the game is exclusive to a console/ps4, when in fact it can be played on another platform. Very misleading and anti consumer of Sony, as always.

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@waahahah said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@waahahah said:
@unrealgunner said:
@delta3074 said:

Oh the Irony, Sony fanboys last gen claiming there was no such thing as a console exclusive when xbox fans bought up games like left4dead and th witcher 2.

does this mean that DR3 and ryse are classed as console exclusives now

There is no such thing as a console exclusive any intelligent person knows that

Exclusive doesn't mean what you think it means...

it means to exclude so, an exclusive game is one that excludes 1 or more platforms. Its also a relative term and most of the time its implied to be exclusive in relation to xbox/ps/pc but generally disregarding mobile/handhelds/wii u.

Nope. It's not a relative term. It's only relative because fanboys of all stripes want it to be relative.

This is the definition: "restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned."

If a game not limited or restricted to a certain console, it's not an exclusive. Street Fighter V is not restricted or limited to PS4 if you can get it on PC.

There is no reason to restrict PC from the discussion to talk about exclusivity unless you're in Sony's marketing team and you want to make a non-exclusive look like an exclusive.

Its a relative term,

  1. excluding or not admitting other things."my exclusive focus is on San Antonio issues"
  2. restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned."the couple had exclusive possession of the condo"

Both of these are relative if your comparing consoles. Otherwise the definition you listed would make every game exclusive in some way. Fallout 4 is exclusive because it is restricted to the a group of systems that contains xbox/ps4/PC.

or

noun. an item or story published or broadcast by only one source.

This is a bit closer to the way system wars tries to use it. But again every game could be considered exclusive unless it had multiple publishers... Its ambiguity is still pretty bad depending on the definition. There's even a difference calling it an exclusive vs is exclusive. The easiest way to understand it is the first defintion, the game has excluded some series of consoles from a particular selection of all consoles.

The point is exclusive can many different things depending on context its being used in... I think I meant contextual term.

You're making this way more convoluted than it needs to be. "Restricted or limited to the person, group, area," means that it's restricted to one platform. You could say "you're exclusively talking about consoles," but that doesn't make the game exclusive; it just means that you have an exclusive focus on consoles.

You say that both of these are relative IF you're comparing consoles. But the whole reason behind leaving one of the platforms out of the discussion is to make one's options seem more limited than they are. There is a reason why the term "console exclusive" is used my marketing teams and fanboys. It creates a perception that doesn't actually exist.

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@kvally: Oh you're from Scotland? I assume everyone on this site is American since it's rare to see a fellow Scots, nice man

There's a few more than two of you.

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@GreySeal9 said:
@waahahah said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@waahahah said:
@unrealgunner said:

There is no such thing as a console exclusive any intelligent person knows that

Exclusive doesn't mean what you think it means...

it means to exclude so, an exclusive game is one that excludes 1 or more platforms. Its also a relative term and most of the time its implied to be exclusive in relation to xbox/ps/pc but generally disregarding mobile/handhelds/wii u.

Nope. It's not a relative term. It's only relative because fanboys of all stripes want it to be relative.

This is the definition: "restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned."

If a game not limited or restricted to a certain console, it's not an exclusive. Street Fighter V is not restricted or limited to PS4 if you can get it on PC.

There is no reason to restrict PC from the discussion to talk about exclusivity unless you're in Sony's marketing team and you want to make a non-exclusive look like an exclusive.

Its a relative term,

  1. excluding or not admitting other things."my exclusive focus is on San Antonio issues"
  2. restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned."the couple had exclusive possession of the condo"

Both of these are relative if your comparing consoles. Otherwise the definition you listed would make every game exclusive in some way. Fallout 4 is exclusive because it is restricted to the a group of systems that contains xbox/ps4/PC.

or

noun. an item or story published or broadcast by only one source.

This is a bit closer to the way system wars tries to use it. But again every game could be considered exclusive unless it had multiple publishers... Its ambiguity is still pretty bad depending on the definition. There's even a difference calling it an exclusive vs is exclusive. The easiest way to understand it is the first defintion, the game has excluded some series of consoles from a particular selection of all consoles.

The point is exclusive can many different things depending on context its being used in... I think I meant contextual term.

You're making this way more convoluted than it needs to be. "Restricted or limited to the person, group, area," means that it's restricted to one platform. You could say "you're exclusively talking about consoles," but that doesn't make the game exclusive; it just means that you have an exclusive focus on consoles.

You say that both of these are relative IF you're comparing consoles. But the whole reason behind leaving one of the platforms out of the discussion is to make one's options seem more limited than they are. There is a reason why the term "console exclusive" is used my marketing teams and fanboys. It creates a perception that doesn't actually exist.

"Restricted or limited to the person, group, area,"

On or more

Basically that means the same as, its excluded one or more platforms

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#191 finalstar2007
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No way to defend this. Console exclusive implies that the game is exclusive to a console/ps4, when in fact it can be played on another platform. Very misleading and anti consumer of Sony, as always.

Its straightforward actually.. out of all the consoles PS4 is the only console getting it while PC is not a console so its a console exclusive heck its right there on the boxart something capcom done it themselves (pretty sure the design has more to do with capcom than sony)

its not rocket science or misleading its straightforward

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@kvally: Oh you're from Scotland? I assume everyone on this site is American since it's rare to see a fellow Scots, nice man

There's a few more than two of you.

Yes but I rarely ever run into other Scottish people online so it shocks me when I do

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@davem1992: but they do. Windows royalties for products sold on the Windows platform. Just like with Xbox. It's the Microsoft ISV.

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@davem1992 said:
@GarGx1 said:
@davem1992 said:

@kvally: Oh you're from Scotland? I assume everyone on this site is American since it's rare to see a fellow Scots, nice man

There's a few more than two of you.

Yes but I rarely ever run into other Scottish people online so it shocks me when I do

There's at least half a dozen of us in Systems Wars :)

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#195  Edited By GreySeal9
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@waahahah said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@GreySeal9 said:

There's no such thing as a console exclusive. Something is either exclusive or it isn't. SFV is a multiplat.

Using the word salty will not change that.

You're delusional. Console exclusive makes perfect sense.

Doesn't make sense to call me delusional when you are championing a fake term.

Again:

Exclusive means: "restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned."

Multi-plat means: "one more than one platform."

Street Fighter V is a multiplat.

This is not a difficult concept.

Disclaimer: I deleted all the "you're a lem" nonsense. Not relevant.

its not a difficult concept that multiplat and exclusive aren't contridicting each other in that scenario. "restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned.".

Both deal in terms of more than one. So lets say we have 3 systems... if 2 out of 3 have a game, that game is both exclusive and multiplat.

Of course they contradict each other. If you wanted to use the word group to mean "consoles," you would be arguing that that game is exclusive to consoles, but it's not. That definition means it's exclusive TO a group, not that you're exclusively considering a group (i.e. consoles). PS4 is not a group. PC is not a group. Consoles are a group. Yet we know that it is not exclusive to consoles. In fact, one of the consoles doesn't have the game.

If 2 out of 3 system's have a game, it cannot be exclusive because it's not exclusively on any one of those systems.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

What other console is SFV on?

There's no such thing as a console exclusive. Something is either exclusive or it isn't. SFV is a multiplat.

Using the word salty will not change that.

You're delusional. Console exclusive makes perfect sense.

Doesn't make sense to call me delusional when you are championing a fake term.

Again:

Exclusive means: "restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned."

Multi-plat means: "one more than one platform."

Street Fighter V is a multiplat.

This is not a difficult concept.

Disclaimer: I deleted all the "you're a lem" nonsense. Not relevant.

The area/group is console as stated by the term console exclusive. You're reaching too hard to hate on Sony here man.

If the area or group, per that definition, was consoles, then you couldn't say that Street Fighter is exclusive to the group consoles. That definition is not talking about what is exclusively under considerations. It talking about what is exclusive.

You're reach way too hard to apologize for them.

And I'm not even hating on them. It's just usual marketing bullshit that all companies do.

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#197  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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@GreySeal9: PC is not a console. Take your L and move on. Your damage control is just getting embarrassing now.

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@GreySeal9 said:
@waahahah said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@GreySeal9 said:

There's no such thing as a console exclusive. Something is either exclusive or it isn't. SFV is a multiplat.

Using the word salty will not change that.

You're delusional. Console exclusive makes perfect sense.

Doesn't make sense to call me delusional when you are championing a fake term.

Again:

Exclusive means: "restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned."

Multi-plat means: "one more than one platform."

Street Fighter V is a multiplat.

This is not a difficult concept.

Disclaimer: I deleted all the "you're a lem" nonsense. Not relevant.

its not a difficult concept that multiplat and exclusive aren't contridicting each other in that scenario. "restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned.".

Both deal in terms of more than one. So lets say we have 3 systems... if 2 out of 3 have a game, that game is both exclusive and multiplat.

Of course they contradict each other. If you wanted to use the word group to mean "consoles," you would be arguing that that game is exclusive to consoles, but it's not. That definition means it's exclusive TO a group, not that you're exclusively considering a group (i.e. consoles). PS4 is not a group. PC is not a group. Consoles are a group. Yet me know that it is not exclusive to consoles. In fact, one of the consoles doesn't have the game.

If 2 out of 3 system's have a game, it cannot be exclusive because it's not exclusively on any one of those systems.

consoles is a way to group certain systems, another type of group is a set list, {xbox,ps4,wii u} <- group. There's also more than one way to make to consider how exclusive is being used here. They don't contradict each other. In fact Sony is implying out of the consoles its only on their console, excluding all other consoles but not all other systems systems. In the the group of consoles, its an exclusive for ps4, and also on PC.

Is the English language fun!

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#199  Edited By GarGx1
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This springs to mind

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@finalstar2007 said:
@intotheminx said:

No way to defend this. Console exclusive implies that the game is exclusive to a console/ps4, when in fact it can be played on another platform. Very misleading and anti consumer of Sony, as always.

Its straightforward actually.. out of all the consoles PS4 is the only console getting it while PC is not a console so its a console exclusive heck its right there on the boxart something capcom done it themselves (pretty sure the design has more to do with capcom than sony)

its not rocket science or misleading its straightforward

The average Joe will see "console exclusive" and a big PS4 logo close to it and assume its the only way to play the game. It's very misleading and implies its exclusive, which it is not. No matter what I say you will defend Sony to death, so it really doesn't matter.