Sub-HD FTW: Metal Gear Online = 665p

Pixel counters at the ready! There's been some debate over the final rendering resolution of Metal Gear Solid 4. Screenshot pixel counting has been hazy, so the first sign of a possible resolution is found in the launch of the Metal Gear Online Beta. The Beta has now begun in Europe (yes it's up, go and play!) and the results are in.

Over at Beyond3d technical forums, resident video game investigator Quaz51 (who also happens to be Eurogamer's source in their console face-offs), has now proved his suspicions right. MGO renders natively at 1024by768.

This resolution is not 768p as you might suspect, since 1024by768 is not a 16/9 isomorphic resolution. Instead, it's equivalent resolution (contains the same number of pixels) is 1182by665 - or 665p. It is thus accurate to say MGO renders natively at 665p.

Ripten

So there you have it. 665p, but a solid 30 FPS. I for one can live with it. (Sorry if old)

Link

Looking good to me at least, then again what did Halo 3 or CoD4 render at? because they weren'y 720P either :Pthrones

Lol nope, which is why it doesn't really bother me anymore. Both of those games looked fantastic. It is a big deal in the PC vs. console wars however...since apparently consoles have problems with stable framerates at HD resolutions in big games.

:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!BioShockOwnz

Fanboys? Consistency? *slaps*

Yeah this doesn't really mean much. Halo3 and COD4 both do this and nobody really cares because all the games look great anyways. Everything is scaled anyways so what's the difference imo.

Only people who will latch onto this are fanboys and if you listen to them anyways you're hopeless.

:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!BioShockOwnz

Can you say beta? He never said it was gonna look like MGS4, he said the online will look like MGS3 online.

1024x768 is not 665p. Especially with 2xAA anamorphic renderingAlways-Honest

It is also not a true 16:9 ratio, so when converted to 16:9 it is 665p. Read a little farther down in the link.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!CubanBlunt

Can you say bata?

they did it smart. it's better than Halo3 this way. no jaggies.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!CubanBlunt

Can you say bata?

Can you say it's so close to the final version that it will likely not change?

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]1024x768 is not 665p. Especially with 2xAA anamorphic renderingTheSystemLord1

It is also not a true 16:9 ratio, so when converted to 16:9 it is 665p. Read a little farther down in the link.

true, but it's pretty smart. not as worse as in halo3. that game had appearent jaggies.

[QUOTE="thrones"]Looking good to me at least, then again what did Halo 3 or CoD4 render at? because they weren'y 720P either :PTheSystemLord1

Lol nope, which is why it doesn't really bother me anymore. Both of those games looked fantastic. It is a big deal in the PC vs. console wars however...since apparently consoles have problems with stable framerates at HD resolutions in big games.

Well, COD did anyway...

:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!BioShockOwnz

Was Halo 3 good looking? Nope

Was it a fun game? Yes

Graphics do not always determine the game child!

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!donwoogie

Was Halo 3 good looking? Nope

Was it a fun game? Yes

Graphics do not always determine the game child!

Whoa whoa whoa, Halo 3 not good looking? Have you played it? I can name 2-3 instances where my jaw literally dropped due to the lighting and the detail it allowed.

Right and last week it was 576p:roll:Egghead360

This time is a bit different, this was done off of the actual demo.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!donwoogie

Was Halo 3 good looking? Nope

Was it a fun game? Yes

Graphics do not always determine the game child!

Reading comprehension FTW? I play Wii games, so obviously I don't care about graphics. I was talking about the fanboys staying consistent, that is all. Not a single time did I state my opinion on the matter, so please don't assume such things. Also, "child" comments are used when ones argument falls flat, which it did, since it had nothing to do with my post.

[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!thrones

Can you say bata?

Can you say it's so close to the final version that it will likely not change?

If you say so, anything can change, look at the 360 sales LOL

[QUOTE="donwoogie"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!TheSystemLord1

Was Halo 3 good looking? Nope

Was it a fun game? Yes

Graphics do not always determine the game child!

Whoa whoa whoa, Halo 3 not good looking? Have you played it? I can name 2-3 instances where my jaw literally dropped due to the lighting and the detail it allowed.

What? Halo 3 was the one game that dissapointed me visually, and the game it's self is just a once over and play something else job.

[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"][QUOTE="donwoogie"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!leejohnson7

Was Halo 3 good looking? Nope

Was it a fun game? Yes

Graphics do not always determine the game child!

Whoa whoa whoa, Halo 3 not good looking? Have you played it? I can name 2-3 instances where my jaw literally dropped due to the lighting and the detail it allowed.

What? Halo 3 was the one game that dissapointed me visually, and the game it's self is just a once over and play something else job.

Not a huge Halo fan at all, but the game had a nice and bright color palette, which pleased the eyes. It also had amazing draw distance, large epic battles without framerate issues, and spectacular lighting. To take all of that away from it is just fanboyish.

[QUOTE="donwoogie"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!TheSystemLord1

Was Halo 3 good looking? Nope

Was it a fun game? Yes

Graphics do not always determine the game child!

Whoa whoa whoa, Halo 3 not good looking? Have you played it? I can name 2-3 instances where my jaw literally dropped due to the lighting and the detail it allowed.

lol, na, the graphics never at any point wowed me. The game itself was amazing though. Can never get bored of it.

[QUOTE="donwoogie"]

Was Halo 3 good looking? Nope

Was it a fun game? Yes

Graphics do not always determine the game child!

BioShockOwnz

Reading comprehension FTW? I play Wii games, so obviously I don't care about graphics. I was talking about the fanboys staying consistent, that is all. Not a single time did I state my opinion on the matter, so please don't assume such things. Also, "child" comments are used when ones argument falls flat, which it did, since it had nothing to do with my post.

Well I'm afriad we have a difference of opinion, I simply referred to you as a child since it is mostly immature people who generalise the opinions of others.

:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!BioShockOwnz

Halo got slammed because they hyped the crap out of the graphics. They said it would be the best game graphically on consoles, they also showed the CGI footage at E3 06 and said it was in-game, then they advertised it as 1080p. All that added to why Halo got slammed for graphics which it deserved.

Metal Gear has been hyped as well, but not for it's graphics.

[QUOTE="leejohnson7"][QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"][QUOTE="donwoogie"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!BioShockOwnz

Was Halo 3 good looking? Nope

Was it a fun game? Yes

Graphics do not always determine the game child!

Whoa whoa whoa, Halo 3 not good looking? Have you played it? I can name 2-3 instances where my jaw literally dropped due to the lighting and the detail it allowed.

What? Halo 3 was the one game that dissapointed me visually, and the game it's self is just a once over and play something else job.

Not a huge Halo fan at all, but the game had a nice and bright color palette, which pleased the eyes. It also had amazing draw distance, large epic battles without framerate issues, and spectacular lighting. To take all of that away from it is just fanboyish.

The game was bright, but the lighting wasn't realistic. The jaggies I had to put up with after seeing the bullshots was what set me up, especially on my hdtv. The sound effects were a total embarrasment as well. When I heard the actual main rifle which had 32 bullets instead of the 60, it sounded like an airsoft gun, and a quiet one at that, I thought the sound on my TV was faulty.

The game was bright, but the lighting wasn't realistic. The jaggies I had to put up with after seeing the bullshots was what set me up, especially on my hdtv. The sound effects were a total embarrasment as well. When I heard the actual main rifle which had 32 bullets instead of the 60, it sounded like an airsoft gun, and a quiet one at that, I thought the sound on my TV was faulty.

leejohnson7

The instance on Tsavo Highway where you come out from the cave and are temporarily blinded by the sunlight stands out as incredible. The in-game movie on the Shipmaster's vessel where the Chief and Arbiter are looking down at Cortana lit only by her glow looked damn near photo-realistic. Great lighting can make or break a game's graphics. Look at the Siren: New Translation Demo. It looks fantastic, but not from a technical standpoint, from a lighting standpoint.

MG:O will not have that insane lighting, it will be a 665p game. Still looks great, but Halo 3 covered up any graphical shortcomings with awesome technical aspects never seen before in console videogames.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"][QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"][QUOTE="donwoogie"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!leejohnson7

Was Halo 3 good looking? Nope

Was it a fun game? Yes

Graphics do not always determine the game child!

Whoa whoa whoa, Halo 3 not good looking? Have you played it? I can name 2-3 instances where my jaw literally dropped due to the lighting and the detail it allowed.

What? Halo 3 was the one game that dissapointed me visually, and the game it's self is just a once over and play something else job.

Not a huge Halo fan at all, but the game had a nice and bright color palette, which pleased the eyes. It also had amazing draw distance, large epic battles without framerate issues, and spectacular lighting. To take all of that away from it is just fanboyish.

The game was bright, but the lighting wasn't realistic. The jaggies I had to put up with after seeing the bullshots was what set me up, especially on my hdtv. The sound effects were a total embarrasment as well. When I heard the actual main rifle which had 32 bullets instead of the 60, it sounded like an airsoft gun, and a quiet one at that, I thought the sound on my TV was faulty.

halo3 had some really good lighting in fact... the jaggies were a shame and peoples faces and foliage were horrible..

edit.. your tv was faulty, the sound was amazing.

The game was bright, but the lighting wasn't realistic. The jaggies I had to put up with after seeing the bullshots was what set me up, especially on my hdtv. The sound effects were a total embarrasment as well. When I heard the actual main rifle which had 32 bullets instead of the 60, it sounded like an airsoft gun, and a quiet one at that, I thought the sound on my TV was faulty.

leejohnson7

Metal Gear has been hyped as well, but not for it's graphics.

EmperorSupreme

yes it has.. and rightfully so.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!EmperorSupreme

Halo got slammed because they hyped the crap out of the graphics. They said it would be the best game graphically on consoles, they also showed the CGI footage at E3 06 and said it was in-game, then they advertised it as 1080p. All that added to why Halo got slammed for graphics which it deserved.

Metal Gear has been hyped as well, but not for it's graphics.

"EDIT" The E3 06 trailer was in-engine. And NOT CGI.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!silentobi

Halo got slammed because they hyped the crap out of the graphics. They said it would be the best game graphically on consoles, they also showed the CGI footage at E3 06 and said it was in-game, then they advertised it as 1080p. All that added to why Halo got slammed for graphics which it deserved.

Metal Gear has been hyped as well, but not for it's graphics.

"EDIT" The E3 06 trailer was in-engine. And NOT CGI.

Well..MGS4 looks alot better, especially now they've removed that filter :P

Sure a few jaggies turn up, but there's alot more detail.

[QUOTE="silentobi"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!thrones

Halo got slammed because they hyped the crap out of the graphics. They said it would be the best game graphically on consoles, they also showed the CGI footage at E3 06 and said it was in-game, then they advertised it as 1080p. All that added to why Halo got slammed for graphics which it deserved.

Metal Gear has been hyped as well, but not for it's graphics.

"EDIT" The E3 06 trailer was in-engine. And NOT CGI.

Well..MGS4 looks alot better, especially now they've removed that filter :P

Sure a few jaggies turn up, but there's alot more detail.

Overall MGS4 looks better, but you can't deny Halo 3 had some awesome lighting and textures.

576P? 665P? WTF? Were counting pixels now? I think we as gamers have fallen into a new low.

[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="silentobi"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!TMontana1004

Halo got slammed because they hyped the crap out of the graphics. They said it would be the best game graphically on consoles, they also showed the CGI footage at E3 06 and said it was in-game, then they advertised it as 1080p. All that added to why Halo got slammed for graphics which it deserved.

Metal Gear has been hyped as well, but not for it's graphics.

"EDIT" The E3 06 trailer was in-engine. And NOT CGI.

Well..MGS4 looks alot better, especially now they've removed that filter :P

Sure a few jaggies turn up, but there's alot more detail.

Overall MGS4 looks better, but you can't deny Halo 3 had some awesome lighting and textures.

[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="silentobi"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]:lol: Oh man, lets see if the cows slam this like they did with Halo 3.:roll: Lets see some consistency, guys!TMontana1004

Halo got slammed because they hyped the crap out of the graphics. They said it would be the best game graphically on consoles, they also showed the CGI footage at E3 06 and said it was in-game, then they advertised it as 1080p. All that added to why Halo got slammed for graphics which it deserved.

Metal Gear has been hyped as well, but not for it's graphics.

"EDIT" The E3 06 trailer was in-engine. And NOT CGI.

Well..MGS4 looks alot better, especially now they've removed that filter :P

Sure a few jaggies turn up, but there's alot more detail.

Overall MGS4 looks better, but you can't deny Halo 3 had some awesome lighting and textures.

Who's denying anything? Halo 3 looks great!

576P? 665P? WTF? Were counting pixels now? I think we as gamers have fallen into a new low.

megaton3k

If only Sony didn't promissed me things like HD ready console... hey I wouldn't of mind.

Resolution is more important when dealing with Computer Monitors. Not important when using televisions.Deihmos

Is this the new damage controle now?

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]Resolution is more important when dealing with Computer Monitors. Not important when using televisions.Bebi_vegeta

Is this the new damage controle now?

Nah he's actually right. I don't think Deihmos is even a Sony fanboy.

[QUOTE="megaton3k"]

576P? 665P? WTF? Were counting pixels now? I think we as gamers have fallen into a new low.

Bebi_vegeta

If only Sony didn't promissed me things like HD ready console... hey I wouldn't of mind.

Shame alot of games on both consoles aren't HD either :|