SW Choice for Best Shooter Series - and the winner is....

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#201 Zeviander
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Sad Halo won over Half Life, but it was a good loss to a good shooter. Just glade one of the 4 shooters I wanted to win won.Ballroompirate
What, aside from nostalgia, makes you think Half Life is a better series than Halo?
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#202 Jankarcop
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How the hell did Homefront, which is one game that kinda sucked, beat Dark Forces, a series that includes Jedi friggin Outcast?PannicAtack

Because this was a casual poll

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I am bit surprised, not that Halo won or anything, tho its to me is slightly overrated despite being a very good series overall (even if myself isnt a big fan of it). I am more surprised that Unreal only got 4 votes versus say Bioshock which got 11, which to me only has two titles in it; the first being very good. Unreal has a bunch of solid entries, ranging from good to great. Tho out of the other 3, I probably would have been more comfortable with Doom winning. Whatever, I guess, its all comes down to general poll, however that turns out, good or bad, Halo won.
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I am bit surprised, not that Halo won or anything, tho its to me is slightly overrated despite being a very good series overall (even if myself isnt a big fan of it). I am more surprised that Unreal only got 4 votes versus say Bioshock which got 11, which to me only has two titles in it; the first being very good. Unreal has a bunch of solid entries, ranging from good to great. Tho out of the other 3, I probably would have been more comfortable with Doom winning. Whatever, I guess, its all comes down to general poll, however that turns out, good or bad, Halo won.ArisShadows

The thing is one entire faction voted for 1 entire game, while the other 3 seperated into other games (like hermits for example cherris hl/doom/unreal equally)

Make a random thread doing just halo vs. unreal and unreal will easily win.

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#205 gamecubepad
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All hail Halo, King of Shooters!

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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]I am bit surprised, not that Halo won or anything, tho its to me is slightly overrated despite being a very good series overall (even if myself isnt a big fan of it). I am more surprised that Unreal only got 4 votes versus say Bioshock which got 11, which to me only has two titles in it; the first being very good. Unreal has a bunch of solid entries, ranging from good to great. Tho out of the other 3, I probably would have been more comfortable with Doom winning. Whatever, I guess, its all comes down to general poll, however that turns out, good or bad, Halo won.Jankarcop

The thing is one entire faction voted for 1 entire game, while the other 3 seperated into other games (like hermits for example cherris hl/doom/unreal equally)

Make a random thread doing just halo vs. unreal and unreal will easily win.

One faction voting? There was basically a total lack of fanboys for the most part. Second of all, Halo had to go through Deus Ex, ARMA and Half-Life to get to the finals.

I guarantee you that the majority of gamers will choose Halo over Unreal simply because Unreal hasn't been relevant since UT2004. Get over the console hate. Halo had one of the toughest brackets to get through to the final and the match-up against Half-Life, which should have had "more factions" as you'd like to think voting for it should have made short work of Halo. The game won fair and square. Get over yourself.

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#207 AcidSoldner
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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]I am bit surprised, not that Halo won or anything, tho its to me is slightly overrated despite being a very good series overall (even if myself isnt a big fan of it). I am more surprised that Unreal only got 4 votes versus say Bioshock which got 11, which to me only has two titles in it; the first being very good. Unreal has a bunch of solid entries, ranging from good to great. Tho out of the other 3, I probably would have been more comfortable with Doom winning. Whatever, I guess, its all comes down to general poll, however that turns out, good or bad, Halo won.Jankarcop

The thing is one entire faction voted for 1 entire game, while the other 3 seperated into other games (like hermits for example cherris hl/doom/unreal equally)

Make a random thread doing just halo vs. unreal and unreal will easily win.

Get over yourself fanboy. A good chunk of the voters here were multi-system users/manticores who don't let platforms dictate what games they can enjoy. And why don't you go ahead and make that thread in SW, I'm pretty sure Halo would win just the same.
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#208 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]I am bit surprised, not that Halo won or anything, tho its to me is slightly overrated despite being a very good series overall (even if myself isnt a big fan of it). I am more surprised that Unreal only got 4 votes versus say Bioshock which got 11, which to me only has two titles in it; the first being very good. Unreal has a bunch of solid entries, ranging from good to great. Tho out of the other 3, I probably would have been more comfortable with Doom winning. Whatever, I guess, its all comes down to general poll, however that turns out, good or bad, Halo won.AcidSoldner

The thing is one entire faction voted for 1 entire game, while the other 3 seperated into other games (like hermits for example cherris hl/doom/unreal equally)

Make a random thread doing just halo vs. unreal and unreal will easily win.

Get over yourself fanboy. A good chunk of the voters here were multi-system users/manticores who don't let platforms dictate what games they can enjoy. And why don't you go ahead and make that thread in SW, I'm pretty sure Halo would win just the same.

It would be really petty of someone to make the thread. And it would still be funny. :P

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#209 timmy00
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eh can't say I agree but Halo isn't a bad choice.

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#210 GD1551
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]I am bit surprised, not that Halo won or anything, tho its to me is slightly overrated despite being a very good series overall (even if myself isnt a big fan of it). I am more surprised that Unreal only got 4 votes versus say Bioshock which got 11, which to me only has two titles in it; the first being very good. Unreal has a bunch of solid entries, ranging from good to great. Tho out of the other 3, I probably would have been more comfortable with Doom winning. Whatever, I guess, its all comes down to general poll, however that turns out, good or bad, Halo won.NeonNinja

The thing is one entire faction voted for 1 entire game, while the other 3 seperated into other games (like hermits for example cherris hl/doom/unreal equally)

Make a random thread doing just halo vs. unreal and unreal will easily win.

One faction voting? There was basically a total lack of fanboys for the most part. Second of all, Halo had to go through Deus Ex, ARMA and Half-Life to get to the finals.

I guarantee you that the majority of gamers will choose Halo over Unreal simply because Unreal hasn't been relevant since UT2004. Get over the console hate. Halo had one of the toughest brackets to get through to the final and the match-up against Half-Life, which should have had "more factions" as you'd like to think voting for it should have made short work of Halo. The game won fair and square. Get over yourself.

Deus Ex and Arma isn't what I'd call tough.

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#211 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"][QUOTE="Zeviander"]Halo has been relevant and consistent for over a decade. That is rare in games, especially shooters. A well-deserved win for sure. For once, the Gamespot community delivers a largely agreeable winner.FireSpirit117

Indeed. It is a very agreeable winner.

I second that. Very agreeable.

I third it. We certainly could have done worse.
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#212 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]Sad Halo won over Half Life, but it was a good loss to a good shooter. Just glade one of the 4 shooters I wanted to win won.Zeviander
What, aside from nostalgia, makes you think Half Life is a better series than Halo?

I'm really hoping he praises the gunplay. Please oh please let that happen.
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#213 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Unreal Tournament FOR LIFE!!! F*CK HALO...and my thousands of hours in it. jg4xchamp

Haha...you act like halo broke you're heart or somethin, romeo!

It has I keep fooling myself into thinking the next one is gonna be great, and make up for the flaws with the one before it. And all Bungie ever did was choke. Save the multiplayer usually kicking ass(inspite of the map designs).

You know, the series actually did largely learn from it's mistakes. 3's campaign was better than 2's, ODST's was better than 3's, and I'd argue that Reach has the best campaign in the series aside from CE.
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#214 mems_1224
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pc has no good fps games confirmed
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#215 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Haha...you act like halo broke you're heart or somethin, romeo!

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It has I keep fooling myself into thinking the next one is gonna be great, and make up for the flaws with the one before it. And all Bungie ever did was choke. Save the multiplayer usually kicking ass(inspite of the map designs).

You know, the series actually did largely learn from it's mistakes. 3's campaign was better than 2's, ODST's was better than 3's, and I'd argue that Reach has the best campaign in the series aside from CE.

Never played Halo 2, but if its worse than 3 was, I don't know, i thougth 3 was pretty meh. I enjoyed Reach alot tho.. ODST was okay to me.The original wasn't bad either.
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#216 Gxgear
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SW composed of mostly lemmings confirmed.

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#217 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

The thing is one entire faction voted for 1 entire game, while the other 3 seperated into other games (like hermits for example cherris hl/doom/unreal equally)

Make a random thread doing just halo vs. unreal and unreal will easily win.

GD1551

One faction voting? There was basically a total lack of fanboys for the most part. Second of all, Halo had to go through Deus Ex, ARMA and Half-Life to get to the finals.

I guarantee you that the majority of gamers will choose Halo over Unreal simply because Unreal hasn't been relevant since UT2004. Get over the console hate. Halo had one of the toughest brackets to get through to the final and the match-up against Half-Life, which should have had "more factions" as you'd like to think voting for it should have made short work of Halo. The game won fair and square. Get over yourself.

Deus Ex and Arma isn't what I'd call tough.

Two well-liked games and at the end of the line was Half-Life. It was tough enough by that series' presence alone.
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#218 balfe1990
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SW composed of mostly lemmings confirmed.

Gxgear

SW comprised of impartial, unbiased individuals with excellent taste in games confirmed.

Platform exclusivityirrelevant.

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#219 SecretPolice
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:shock: I must say, in a place like SW where I find that MS/Xbox gets the least respect and where lems are far outnumbered by all the other barnyard animals respectively, this is a real testament to the world beater game the Halo franchise has become. :D

Now, 343i, make me proud or else. :P

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#220 PAL360
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Deserved, Halo is still one of the best and most unique shooters.

I still dont get the lack of Left 4 Dead on the list. that would get my vote.

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#221 GD1551
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Two well-liked games and at the end of the line was Half-Life. It was tough enough by that series' presence alone. NeonNinja

Arma is well liked? I suppose most of the people were voting because of Day Z, and even still, I doubt many people here even played Arma and just voted it over AVP because they didn't know better. Deus Ex is a well liked game, but not because it's a shooter.. not even sure what it's doing there because two of three games aren't really shooters.

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#222 Cloud567kar
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Dissapointed that Counter Strike didnt even make the finals. Yes Doom is good, but its Counter Strike.

Oh well, at least Halo won.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Haha...you act like halo broke you're heart or somethin, romeo!

DarkLink77
It has I keep fooling myself into thinking the next one is gonna be great, and make up for the flaws with the one before it. And all Bungie ever did was choke. Save the multiplayer usually kicking ass(inspite of the map designs).

You know, the series actually did largely learn from it's mistakes. 3's campaign was better than 2's, ODST's was better than 3's, and I'd argue that Reach has the best campaign in the series aside from CE.

3 is an inconsistent mess, ODST is painfully boring, and Reach is on its best moments average. It's saving grace is that it doesn't have an out right bad level. It's that Quarterback who plays for the sake of not making mistakes, and not necessarily to make plays. Bungie's level design has been questionable since 2001. Hell all the way back to the Marathon days. They just had more of an excuse during those days.
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Two well-liked games and at the end of the line was Half-Life. It was tough enough by that series' presence alone. GD1551

Arma is well liked? I suppose most of the people were voting because of Day Z, and even still, I doubt many people here even played Arma and just voted it over AVP because they didn't know better. Deus Ex is a well liked game, but not because it's a shooter.. not even sure what it's doing there because two of three games aren't really shooters.

Yeah ARMAs fanfare is because of DayZ. I was surprised to see it plough through even Killzone. As for Deus Ex. It certainly didn't belong on this list as its an RPG. But it was here and would have been a notable contender if it hasn't lost to Halo. I dont think any other game outside of some of the really big ones could have knocked out Deus Ex.
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#225 brimmul777
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There's no surprise that Halo won.:roll:

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There's no surprise that Halo won.:roll:brimmul777
I'm very surprised. I was fully expecting the series with the voiceless, character-less, empty shell of an avatar with sh!tacular gunplay to win... given how much people loved him for the "greatest character ever" award Gamespot did a while back. Given how few "lemmings" there are on SW these days, I'm surprised it even made it past the first round. It just goes to show that Halo has something more for non-fanboys that people just love/like.
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[QUOTE="brimmul777"]There's no surprise that Halo won.:roll:Zeviander
I'm very surprised. I was fully expecting the series with the voiceless, character-less, empty shell of an avatar with sh!tacular gunplay to win... given how much people loved him for the "greatest character ever" award Gamespot did a while back. Given how few "lemmings" there are on SW these days, I'm surprised it even made it past the first round. It just goes to show that Halo has something more for non-fanboys that people just love/like.

You are worthy of the armour :)

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[QUOTE="brimmul777"]There's no surprise that Halo won.:roll:Zeviander
I'm very surprised. I was fully expecting the series with the voiceless, character-less, empty shell of an avatar with sh!tacular gunplay to win... given how much people loved him for the "greatest character ever" award Gamespot did a while back. Given how few "lemmings" there are on SW these days, I'm surprised it even made it past the first round. It just goes to show that Halo has something more for non-fanboys that people just love/like.

First of all, the greatest gaming hero poll was largely the result of image boards having a laugh. The real stupidity there was Kratos getting as far as he did.

Personally, I don't get the "terrible gunplay" point. I've been playing a lot of shooters and I certainly find it a hell of a lot more satisfying than the gunplay in, say, Battlefield 3.

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#229 Jag85
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Halo... for real?

I'm disappointed in SW.


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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] It has I keep fooling myself into thinking the next one is gonna be great, and make up for the flaws with the one before it. And all Bungie ever did was choke. Save the multiplayer usually kicking ass(inspite of the map designs). jg4xchamp
You know, the series actually did largely learn from it's mistakes. 3's campaign was better than 2's, ODST's was better than 3's, and I'd argue that Reach has the best campaign in the series aside from CE.

3 is an inconsistent mess, ODST is painfully boring, and Reach is on its best moments average. It's saving grace is that it doesn't have an out right bad level. It's that Quarterback who plays for the sake of not making mistakes, and not necessarily to make plays. Bungie's level design has been questionable since 2001. Hell all the way back to the Marathon days. They just had more of an excuse during those days.

Really? 3 has my favorite campaign out of all them. I think it's the best-paced shooter I've played.

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Personally, I don't get the "terrible gunplay" point.PannicAtack
You could probably play any other shooter in existence and find better gunplay. The only thing awesome about Half Life 2 was the gravity gun and crossbow. All the other guns felt wimpy and inaccurate (except maybe the .357, which never had a lot of ammo for it to be a viable primary). I've never been impressed by the gunplay in the Half Life games. Counter Strike, Day of Defeat and Team Fortress? Now that is some good gunplay (if lacking a good FOV and reference points other than hands). I'm not sure what VALVe does to make the HL games so much weaker compared to it's mods.
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#232 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Personally, I don't get the "terrible gunplay" point.Zeviander
You could probably play any other shooter in existence and find better gunplay. The only thing awesome about Half Life 2 was the gravity gun and crossbow. All the other guns felt wimpy and inaccurate (except maybe the .357, which never had a lot of ammo for it to be a viable primary). I've never been impressed by the gunplay in the Half Life games. Counter Strike, Day of Defeat and Team Fortress? Now that is some good gunplay (if lacking a good FOV and reference points other than hands). I'm not sure what VALVe does to make the HL games so much weaker compared to it's mods.

The Magnum takes most enemies out in one hit. Of course they're going to be stingy on ammo. Besides, I was always very fond of the pulse rifle and shotgun. Though I tend to have a weakness for shotguns in any game I play. But I've played a bunch of shooters and Half-Life never stood out as having terrible gunplay. I mean, Battlefield 3, for instance, gunplay bores me to tears. But Half-Life 2 I had plenty of fun. I do admit that grabbing a Manhack and using it as a chainsaw wasn't quite as exciting as it sounds on paper, but I got plenty of thrills with the pulse rifle. Sure, I'd put Quake Live or Painkiller over it, but I think I'd certainly rank it above Star Wars Battlefront or Battlefield 3 in that department.
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#233 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] It has I keep fooling myself into thinking the next one is gonna be great, and make up for the flaws with the one before it. And all Bungie ever did was choke. Save the multiplayer usually kicking ass(inspite of the map designs).

You know, the series actually did largely learn from it's mistakes. 3's campaign was better than 2's, ODST's was better than 3's, and I'd argue that Reach has the best campaign in the series aside from CE.

3 is an inconsistent mess, ODST is painfully boring, and Reach is on its best moments average. It's saving grace is that it doesn't have an out right bad level. It's that Quarterback who plays for the sake of not making mistakes, and not necessarily to make plays. Bungie's level design has been questionable since 2001. Hell all the way back to the Marathon days. They just had more of an excuse during those days.

3 has more good levels than bad. And ODST boring? What? I never thought it was boring. Reach being average is debatable. On my first playthrough, I'd agree. but the more I play the campaign (usually with friends), the more I appreciate it. It's highs aren't as obvious as the other games (Halo 3's Scarabs, for instance), but I think they're there. The space battles, flying the Falcon through the city, boarding the Covenant cruiser, fighting your way to the Pillar of Autumn... I think those were all pretty great. Is Bungie's level design inconsistent? Sure. Outright bad? I don't think so. I don't think ODST or Reach had a bad level. They're not the best campaign makers ever or anything, but they were pretty good. Certainly above average. Uncharted, Gears, Call of Duty, etc, all have similar problems, but no one harps on them as much.
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#234 GOGOGOGURT
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[QUOTE="brimmul777"]There's no surprise that Halo won.:roll:Zeviander
I'm very surprised. I was fully expecting the series with the voiceless, character-less, empty shell of an avatar with sh!tacular gunplay to win... given how much people loved him for the "greatest character ever" award Gamespot did a while back. Given how few "lemmings" there are on SW these days, I'm surprised it even made it past the first round. It just goes to show that Halo has something more for non-fanboys that people just love/like.

I disagree with the Empty shell part. In a sea of dramatic over-the-top cheesy game characters, master chief is the only one who keeps his head.

He's mysterious and caulussed, but you can tell there's a soft spot.

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#235 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="brimmul777"]There's no surprise that Halo won.:roll:GOGOGOGURT

I'm very surprised. I was fully expecting the series with the voiceless, character-less, empty shell of an avatar with sh!tacular gunplay to win... given how much people loved him for the "greatest character ever" award Gamespot did a while back. Given how few "lemmings" there are on SW these days, I'm surprised it even made it past the first round. It just goes to show that Halo has something more for non-fanboys that people just love/like.

I disagree with the Empty shell part. In a sea of dramatic over-the-top cheesy game characters, master chief is the only one who keeps his head.

He's mysterious and caulussed, but you can tell there's a soft spot.

He was talking about Half-Life...
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#236 Cloud567kar
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] It has I keep fooling myself into thinking the next one is gonna be great, and make up for the flaws with the one before it. And all Bungie ever did was choke. Save the multiplayer usually kicking ass(inspite of the map designs). jg4xchamp
You know, the series actually did largely learn from it's mistakes. 3's campaign was better than 2's, ODST's was better than 3's, and I'd argue that Reach has the best campaign in the series aside from CE.

3 is an inconsistent mess, ODST is painfully boring, and Reach is on its best moments average. It's saving grace is that it doesn't have an out right bad level. It's that Quarterback who plays for the sake of not making mistakes, and not necessarily to make plays. Bungie's level design has been questionable since 2001. Hell all the way back to the Marathon days. They just had more of an excuse during those days.

I loved Halo 3's campaign.

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#237 jg4xchamp
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Really? 3 has my favorite campaign out of all them.

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#238 GOGOGOGURT
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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"] I'm very surprised. I was fully expecting the series with the voiceless, character-less, empty shell of an avatar with sh!tacular gunplay to win... given how much people loved him for the "greatest character ever" award Gamespot did a while back. Given how few "lemmings" there are on SW these days, I'm surprised it even made it past the first round. It just goes to show that Halo has something more for non-fanboys that people just love/like.DarkLink77

I disagree with the Empty shell part. In a sea of dramatic over-the-top cheesy game characters, master chief is the only one who keeps his head.

He's mysterious and caulussed, but you can tell there's a soft spot.

He was talking about Half-Life...

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#239 GOGOGOGURT
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Really? 3 has my favorite campaign out of all them.

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You're so dramatic about how halo broke you're heart man. Imma cry.

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#240 jg4xchamp
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3 has more good levels than bad. DarkLink77


Are we really defending a 5 good levels to 4 bad levels ratio. Really?

And ODST boring? What? I never thought it was boring.



Congrats I didn't. Ambiance is fine, but all things considered it's Halo but downscaled. It is the same old Halo, but smaller. Minus the flood, and with arguably a more interesting narrative format. Outside of that though it was by the book halo. But it's also a giant shooter gallery fest which is an area Halo isn't exactly fun to play as. And ending the game on a basically a firefight esque throw down, but with none of the actual intensity of what firefight brings is also a drag

Reach being average is debatable.



Yeah okay

It's highs aren't as obvious as the other games



It doesn't have highs. It teases you into thinking it's about to step it up. Like the flight mission where you end up in space, but the majority of the time you get stuck shooting banshees, with a few of those seraphs here and there. And then that last part where you shoot points on a ship, that doesn't shoot back. Why the f*ck wasn't their a bigger group to fight with, or even more tricked out covenant space vehicles?

"well champ in that point of the story"...shut up, that's not an excuse to pull punches.

Same thing with the falcon segment. Visually it's interesting, and yes it sets the mood for watching a city getting glassed, but overall it's fly here, fight hunters, leave, fly there, fight some dudes, leave. Rinse, repeat, [spoiler] Kat dies [/spoiler]

And the other stuff? You don't do much in Zero g save for a few seconds, so boarding a cruiser is relagated to a 2 minute change up, jet packs you use for maybe a minute or two to do some ghetto platforming, and the standard vehicles stuff played a huge backseat to most of the on foot combat.

The multiplayer in the franchise is fantastic, but from where I'm sitting nothing in the campaigns has been worth writing about it since 2001. Because it's mostly carried a lot of the same issues since 2001.

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#241 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Really? 3 has my favorite campaign out of all them.

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You're so dramatic about how halo broke you're heart man. Imma cry.

You actually care enough to comment on my opinion? What's your excuse?
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#242 Master_ShakeXXX
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Resistance 3 had a better campaign than any Halo game this gen. Insomniac knocked that one out of the park.

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#243 DarkLink77
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Damn you for breaking up your post like this.

Are we really defending a 5 good levels to 4 bad levels ratio. Really?

The only level I consider outright bad in Halo 3 is Cortana. I enjoyed the rest of them.

Congrats I didn't. Ambiance is fine, but all things considered it's Halo but downscaled. It is the same old Halo, but smaller. Minus the flood, and with arguably a more interesting narrative format. Outside of that though it was by the book halo. But it's also a giant shooter gallery fest which is an area Halo isn't exactly fun to play as. And ending the game on a basically a firefight esque throw down, but with none of the actual intensity of what firefight brings is also a drag

Well, that's just like, your opinion, bro. :P

I didn't think it was by the book Halo at all. It's a very different game, because you're so weak. But that's just me, and that's just you. Either way, it's not objectively a bad game, nor a bad campaign.

It doesn't have highs. It teases you into thinking it's about to step it up. Like the flight mission where you end up in space, but the majority of the time you get stuck shooting banshees, with a few of those seraphs here and there. And then that last part where you shoot points on a ship, that doesn't shoot back. Why the f*ck wasn't their a bigger group to fight with, or even more tricked out covenant space vehicles?

"well champ in that point of the story"...shut up, that's not an excuse to pull punches.

Same thing with the falcon segment. Visually it's interesting, and yes it sets the mood for watching a city getting glassed, but overall it's fly here, fight hunters, leave, fly there, fight some dudes, leave. Rinse, repeat, [spoiler] Kat dies [/spoiler]

And the other stuff? You don't do much in Zero g save for a few seconds, so boarding a cruiser is relagated to a 2 minute change up, jet packs you use for maybe a minute or two to do some ghetto platforming, and the standard vehicles stuff played a huge backseat to most of the on foot combat.

The multiplayer in the franchise is fantastic, but from where I'm sitting nothing in the campaigns has been worth writing about it since 2001. Because it's mostly carried a lot of the same issues since 2001.

Well, the cruiser doesn't shoot at you because it's too busy shooting at the Savannah. But I thought the space combat was really great. I wanted more of it. I

really enjoyed boarding the cruiser (all of it, even post zero g), fighting things in the Falcon, Sword Base (the mission), etc. I think Reach was far more than average.

But hey, that's just me. I think your problem is that you expect too much. :P Like I said, Uncharted, Gears, Call of Duty, Crysis, Killzone, etc all suffer from similar issues in one way or another.

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#244 jg4xchamp
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Resistance 3 had a better campaign than any Halo game this gen. Insomniac knocked that one out of the park.

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#245 jg4xchamp
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I think your problem is that you expect too much.

DarkLink77



Duh

I want greatness, out right greatness. Not good enough and serviceable.

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#246 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I think your problem is that you expect too much.

jg4xchamp



Duh

I want greatness, out right greatness. Not good enough and serviceable.

You can count the number of games that are outright great this gen on two hands. :P
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#247 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I think your problem is that you expect too much.

DarkLink77



Duh

I want greatness, out right greatness. Not good enough and serviceable.

You can count the number of games that are outright great this gen on two hands. :P

Eh...probably could go a little more
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#248 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Resistance 3 had a better campaign than any Halo game this gen. Insomniac knocked that one out of the park.

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'twas epic

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#249 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I think your problem is that you expect too much.

jg4xchamp



Duh

I want greatness, out right greatness. Not good enough and serviceable.

You can count the number of games that are outright great this gen on two hands. :P

Eh...probably could go a little more

I can think of maybe 10. I don't know how you could get more.
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#250 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Resistance 3 had a better campaign than any Halo game this gen. Insomniac knocked that one out of the park.

Master_ShakeXXX

Dat vomit gun.

'twas epic

That game has issues left, right, and center. But the guns and the upgrades for the guns make up for everything. Wack ass level design? dgaf my gun makes people vomit Stupid enemy AI? dgaf my shotgun lights people on fire Those annoying zombies? dgaf my revolver makes people EXPLODE Typical Resistance bullsh1ttery? dgaf this gun sends people to another dimension(or causes a space hole, or whatever the f*ck, I don't speak scifi) Was a lot of fun. Multiplayer was somehow lamer than Resistance 2. That was kind of impressive.