System Wars is evolving

[QUOTE="Celtic_34"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

that doesn't explain what acting like a marine is.

there are moderators in reality. they're call the police. should murderers, thieves, arsonists, etc. just be allowed to be themselves?

CaseyWegner

i think the most abusive thing on these forums are people who spam report people they disagree with. fanboys do this all the time. they try to get a rise out of you then they report you. i've never been a mod but what do you see in the report? do you see the entire thread or just the post reported?

i'm amazed i havent been banned yet just because someone doesn't like me in this thread. i would have been banned a long time ago.

i'm enjoying this. this is fantastic. lol...

you still haven't explained what acting like a marine is.

we see the post reported. we don't just get a report and click a mod button. if something isn't a violation, it doesn't get modded.

by the way, banned = gone for good. suspended = temporarily gone. if you were ever banned then that would mean you are ban dodging right now.

i said they should be able to be themselves. like anyone. what is a marine? im not one. you'd have to ask one. my best friend is a marine. im not clueless on what they do. i know how to spot one a long ways away.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Celtic_34"]

i think the most abusive thing on these forums are people who spam report people they disagree with. fanboys do this all the time. they try to get a rise out of you then they report you. i've never been a mod but what do you see in the report? do you see the entire thread or just the post reported?

i'm amazed i havent been banned yet just because someone doesn't like me in this thread. i would have been banned a long time ago.

i'm enjoying this. this is fantastic. lol...

Celtic_34

you still haven't explained what acting like a marine is.

we see the post reported. we don't just get a report and click a mod button. if something isn't a violation, it doesn't get modded.

by the way, banned = gone for good. suspended = temporarily gone. if you were ever banned then that would mean you are ban dodging right now.

i said they should be able to be themselves. like anyone. what is a marine? im not one. you'd have to ask one. my best friend is a marine. im not clueless on what they do. i know how to spot one a long ways away.

you do or you don't. you're contradicting yourself. you must know something. spill the beans.

should murderers, thieves, arsonists, etc. be allowed to be themselves?

[QUOTE="Celtic_34"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you still haven't explained what acting like a marine is.

we see the post reported. we don't just get a report and click a mod button. if something isn't a violation, it doesn't get modded.

by the way, banned = gone for good. suspended = temporarily gone. if you were ever banned then that would mean you are ban dodging right now.

CaseyWegner

i said they should be able to be themselves. like anyone. what is a marine? im not one. you'd have to ask one. my best friend is a marine. im not clueless on what they do. i know how to spot one a long ways away.

you do or you don't. you're contradicting yourself. you must know something. spill the beans.

should murderers, thieves, arsonists, etc. be allowed to be themselves?

marines are bullies who need someone to stand up to them and show them what they are missing? they are people like everyone else. treat them well they will treat you well. unless they can't see you when you can see them.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Celtic_34"]

i said they should be able to be themselves. like anyone. what is a marine? im not one. you'd have to ask one. my best friend is a marine. im not clueless on what they do. i know how to spot one a long ways away.

Celtic_34

you do or you don't. you're contradicting yourself. you must know something. spill the beans.

should murderers, thieves, arsonists, etc. be allowed to be themselves?

marines are bullies who need someone to stand up to them and show them what they are missing? they are people like everyone else. treat them well they will treat you well. unless they can't see you when you can see them.

so there should be different rules for different people?

[QUOTE="Celtic_34"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you do or you don't. you're contradicting yourself. you must know something. spill the beans.

should murderers, thieves, arsonists, etc. be allowed to be themselves?

CaseyWegner

marines are bullies who need someone to stand up to them and show them what they are missing? they are people like everyone else. treat them well they will treat you well. unless they can't see you when you can see them.

so there should be different rules for different people?

I have no idea. From my experience I havent had any issue with marines on these forums. They sometimes think i'm saying something else when i'm fine with them and on their side. I think there are other people on these forums that make a total mess out of threads that are actually for serious discussion. Peopel have been much cooler of late and willing to just talk. For a while there it was a mess and I think the moderators were the biggest issue because there were people spamming report on people who were just trying to have a discussion. I think the moderators had no idea what was going on.

I think there are a lot of young people on these forums that don't know what's up.

because there were people spamming report on people who were just trying to have a discussion.

Celtic_34

this thread has just taken a turn for the confusing.

[QUOTE="Celtic_34"]because there were people spamming report on people who were just trying to have a discussion.

Stevo_the_gamer

because i've had some issues with certain games and people don't like criticism that's actually good criticism? they are stuck in their own worlds?

i'm actually a responsible person like i've said. i don't get butthurt over stupid stuff. but after a while it was just stupid.

because i've had some issues with certain games and people don't like criticism?

Celtic_34

this thread has just taken a turn for the confusing.

clone01

because i've had some issues with certain games and people don't like criticism?

Celtic_34

Well, being that you are very mature, one of the cooler people here, and respectful of Marines, I can't conceivably see how you'd be wrong. Great job, Sir. Our hats are off to you.

[QUOTE="Celtic_34"]

because i've had some issues with certain games and people don't like criticism?

Stevo_the_gamer

no because i'm nto a rat like that. i don't report people ever. I actually try to see where peole are coming from like i've said.

It's just annoying and i'm on your side here.

no Celtic_34

Thread just got interesting

Thread just got interesting

eboyishere

So now I can call someone idiot without being mod ? Yesterday I reported a poster for calling other psters morons. Zensword

According to mods if you just reported them once they will only ignore those reports, but don't do it any more or they will moderate you for false reports.

[QUOTE="Zensword"]So now I can call someone idiot without being mod ? Yesterday I reported a poster for calling other psters morons. glez13

According to mods if you just reported them once they will only ignore those reports, but don't do it any more or they will moderate you for false reports.

So now I can call someone idiot without being mod ? Yesterday I reported a poster for calling other psters morons. Zensword

Yes, you dumbass.

(No offense, just demonstrating it. :P )

[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="Zensword"]So now I can call someone idiot without being mod ? Yesterday I reported a poster for calling other psters morons. Zensword

According to mods if you just reported them once they will only ignore those reports, but don't do it any more or they will moderate you for false reports.

People have this image in their head of what this faceless internet person they're having a conversation with is like. And this is often not consistent with reality. If they were talking face to face they would behave completely differently towards each other, showing a lot more respect. Why do these social standards have to stop existing just because the form of communication changes?

But unfortunately they in large parts do due to a lack of tangible consequences, which is why rules are necessary. See this stevo guy popping up starting to insult and bully celtic into leaving to satisfy his own selfish need to find entertainment through intentionally annoying other people. That behavior seems fueled at least partially by wanting to be part of this inner group of people and the resulting group mentality. And I guess it's spurred by the same psychological dohicky that makes you poke fun at your friends and laugh at pratfalls, but when that behavior seeps into your interactions with complete strangers it just gets weird, inappropriate, disrespectful and offensive. If it took place in the real world it would be straight up antisocial and would likely lead to violence.

But stevo has a point, System Wars has a history of being god damned stupid as all hell. People acting like immature jerks kind of comes with the territory. You can try to influence it in another direction but that's not going to be easy. If you're gonna remain, the best you can do is probably to just tolerate/ignore it and try not to take things too seriously. In general I believe it's more about being playful than intentionally meanspirited. But maybe that's just me being naive, I don't know. I'm sure some people aren't just acting like immature jerks.

Admittedly I sometimes don't mind a little immature stupidity. But trolling, flaming and the like is rarely stupid in a way I find stimulating. Primarily just childish, sad, disruptive and/or dull etc.

You know what'd be good? An ignore function. Maybe Gamespot engineers will get to it after they've fixed the link bug in 2014.

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To continue my essay, this reminds me of an encounter I had with a guy in the Youtube comments. I wrote something that could be perceived as disrespecful towards his interests and so he came at me with some rash kneejerk attack. I clarified what I meant in a friendly manner and he responded to me in the same tone like a normal human being. It was coo. Gave me some faith in humanity. Also he definitely could have beaten my ass as he appeared to be a 40 year old body builder or something.

The internet can be cool, having conversations with people from all over the world of different cultures, backgrounds and ages as if you were peers.

People have this image in their head of what this faceless internet person they're having a conversation with is like. And this is often not consistent with reality. If they were talking face to face they would behave completely differently towards each other, showing a lot more respect. Why do these social standards have to stop existing just because the form of communication changes?

But unfortunately they in large parts do due to a lack of tangible consequences, which is why rules are necessary. See this stevo guy popping up starting to insult and bully celtic into leaving to satisfy his own selfish need to find entertainment through intentionally annoying other people. That behavior seems fueled at least partially by wanting to be part of this inner group of people and the resulting group mentality. And I guess it's spurred by the same psychological dohicky that makes you poke fun at your friends and laugh at pratfalls, but when that behavior seeps into your interactions with complete strangers it just gets weird, inappropriate, disrespectful and offensive. If it took place in the real world it would be straight up antisocial and would likely lead to violence.

But stevo has a point, System Wars has a history of being god damned stupid as all hell. People acting like immature jerks kind of comes with the territory. You can try to influence it in another direction but that's not going to be easy. If you're gonna remain, the best you can do is probably to just tolerate/ignore it and try not to take things too seriously. In general I believe it's more about being playful than intentionally meanspirited. But maybe that's just me being naive, I don't know. I'm sure some people aren't just acting like immature jerks.

Admittedly I sometimes don't mind a little immature stupidity. But trolling, flaming and the like is rarely stupid in a way I find stimulating. Primarily just childish, sad, disruptive and/or dull etc.

You know what'd be good? An ignore function. Maybe Gamespot engineers will get to it after they've fixed the link bug in 2014.

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To continue my essay, this reminds me of an encounter I had with a guy in the Youtube comments. I wrote something that could be perceived as disrespecful towards his interests and so he came at me with some rash kneejerk attack. I clarified what I meant in a friendly manner and he responded to me in the same tone like a normal human being. It was coo. Gave me some faith in humanity. Also he definitely could have beaten my ass as he appeared to be a 40 year old body builder or something.

The internet can be cool, having conversations with people from all over the world of different cultures, backgrounds and ages as if you were peers.

McStrongfast

Holy crap wall of logic :O

[QUOTE="Zensword"]So now I can call someone idiot without being mod ? Yesterday I reported a poster for calling other psters morons. ChubbyGuy40

Yes, you dumbass.

(No offense, just demonstrating it. :P )

[QUOTE="Zensword"]So now I can call someone idiot without being mod ? Yesterday I reported a poster for calling other psters morons. glez13

According to mods if you just reported them once they will only ignore those reports, but don't do it any more or they will moderate you for false reports.

It's a lot more forgiving than that I'm pretty sure.

[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="Zensword"]So now I can call someone idiot without being mod ? Yesterday I reported a poster for calling other psters morons. verbtex

According to mods if you just reported them once they will only ignore those reports, but don't do it any more or they will moderate you for false reports.

It's a lot more forgiving than that I'm pretty sure.

Is it okay nowadays to incite people by posting rage messages like the one above? Also stuff like put quotes in sigs without the permission of the original poster?

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

[QUOTE="glez13"]

According to mods if you just reported them once they will only ignore those reports, but don't do it any more or they will moderate you for false reports.

glez13

It's a lot more forgiving than that I'm pretty sure.

Is it okay nowadays to incite people by posting rage messages like the one above? Also stuff like put quotes in sigs without the permission of the original poster?

I'm not really sure. From my understanding, ALL of the website EXCEPT System Wars is stuck to the old TOU. When everything changes, everyone will be notified. So my guess is no for right now, long term answer, we will figure out together.

People have this image in their head of what this faceless internet person they're having a conversation with is like. And this is often not consistent with reality. If they were talking face to face they would behave completely differently towards each other, showing a lot more respect. Why do these social standards have to stop existing just because the form of communication changes?

But unfortunately they in large parts do due to a lack of tangible consequences, which is why rules are necessary. See this stevo guy popping up starting to insult and bully celtic into leaving to satisfy his own selfish need to find entertainment through intentionally annoying other people. That behavior seems fueled at least partially by wanting to be part of this inner group of people and the resulting group mentality. And I guess it's spurred by the same psychological dohicky that makes you poke fun at your friends and laugh at pratfalls, but when that behavior seeps into your interactions with complete strangers it just gets weird, inappropriate, disrespectful and offensive. If it took place in the real world it would be straight up antisocial and would likely lead to violence.

But stevo has a point, System Wars has a history of being god damned stupid as all hell. People acting like immature jerks kind of comes with the territory. You can try to influence it in another direction but that's not going to be easy. If you're gonna remain, the best you can do is probably to just tolerate/ignore it and try not to take things too seriously. In general I believe it's more about being playful than intentionally meanspirited. But maybe that's just me being naive, I don't know. I'm sure some people aren't just acting like immature jerks.

Admittedly I sometimes don't mind a little immature stupidity. But trolling, flaming and the like is rarely stupid in a way I find stimulating. Primarily just childish, sad, disruptive and/or dull etc.

You know what'd be good? An ignore function. Maybe Gamespot engineers will get to it after they've fixed the link bug in 2014.

-----

To continue my essay, this reminds me of an encounter I had with a guy in the Youtube comments. I wrote something that could be perceived as disrespecful towards his interests and so he came at me with some rash kneejerk attack. I clarified what I meant in a friendly manner and he responded to me in the same tone like a normal human being. It was coo. Gave me some faith in humanity. Also he definitely could have beaten my ass as he appeared to be a 40 year old body builder or something.

The internet can be cool, having conversations with people from all over the world of different cultures, backgrounds and ages as if you were peers.

McStrongfast

You're completely right. The rules change is awful.

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

[QUOTE="glez13"]

According to mods if you just reported them once they will only ignore those reports, but don't do it any more or they will moderate you for false reports.

glez13

It's a lot more forgiving than that I'm pretty sure.

Is it okay nowadays to incite people by posting rage messages like the one above? Also stuff like put quotes in sigs without the permission of the original poster?

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

[QUOTE="glez13"]

According to mods if you just reported them once they will only ignore those reports, but don't do it any more or they will moderate you for false reports.

glez13

It's a lot more forgiving than that I'm pretty sure.

Is it okay nowadays to incite people by posting rage messages like the one above? Also stuff like put quotes in sigs without the permission of the original poster?

Anybody who conducts themselves like that over another man on the internet, over VIDEOGAMES, doesnt deserve rights/regulations. :lol: But keep in mind I havent responded to a single one of them, and have no intention to. I WILL however, laugh at said person, and derrive entertainment from it :lol:StrongDeadlift

Well yeah. I suppose that now that we can call others dumbass and worse everything goes regarding trolling and flaming.

[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="jediknight52501"]and i hate youtube's new look. IGN is still worse.jediknight52501

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Celtic_34"]

marines are bullies who need someone to stand up to them and show them what they are missing? they are people like everyone else. treat them well they will treat you well. unless they can't see you when you can see them.

Celtic_34

so there should be different rules for different people?

I have no idea. From my experience I havent had any issue with marines on these forums. They sometimes think i'm saying something else when i'm fine with them and on their side. I think there are other people on these forums that make a total mess out of threads that are actually for serious discussion. Peopel have been much cooler of late and willing to just talk. For a while there it was a mess and I think the moderators were the biggest issue because there were people spamming report on people who were just trying to have a discussion. I think the moderators had no idea what was going on.

I think there are a lot of young people on these forums that don't know what's up.

again, mods can see what they are moderating. why would they have no idea what's going on? people are not being more cool now unless you consider it cool to throw around insults instead of answers.

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]I actually hate the new rules some people i argued with are a bunch of Mofo a**holes and inconsiderate pricks. These new rules suck but i guess i gotta deal with it.jediknight52501

not for this.

people are stuck in their own worlds. it's scary how clueless some people are. they've lost touch with reality.

i'm out though. i'm just tired and had to get that out.

have a good one. hope you fix it! you won't. but good luck.

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]I actually hate the new rules some people i argued with are a bunch of Mofo a**holes and inconsiderate pricks. These new rules suck but i guess i gotta deal with it.StrongDeadlift

I hate the troll masked with elitism your putting forth, If you didn't care what that person had to say you wouldn't be posting his pm's and thus trolling him that way. Your the only kind of person I truely hate here those that come here acting like they came down to our level lording it over like they are superior like subrosian when inreality your here to argue like every one else hence your no better.