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@ChubbyGuy40 said:

@LegatoSkyheart said:

I did a combination of sorts of both Clyde's and Mine's Builds.

Turns out it's cheaper. :P

I'm not quite sure on Clyde's Method of Reusing my Windows 7 key considering it looks like, according to that site anyway, that I would be EXTRACTING the code from the computer I'm using now and transfer it to the new build. I'm getting not rid of the rig I'm using now, I'm just building a new computer. Unless I'm HORRIBLY mistaken.

Also I'm really trying to salvage that Case of mine. I want it to work, I really don't want to change it. So my questions now are

What is the Difference Between the MSI A88X-G45 GAMING FM2+ & GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-UD5H LGA ?

and What is the difference between the AMD A10-5800K Trinity Quad-Core 3.8GHz & Intel Core i5-4690K Haswell Quad-Core 3.5GHz ?

Those two comparisons look they would get the job done the same, but one's cheaper than the other. Is there something I should be looking out for?

Also Another reason why I left SSD is purely that one Clyde put up is no longer available at this time. Though I'm considering putting the OS on an SSD for faster loading. I'm also considering going CrossFire for this, As in putting down for another Sapphire. I was going to go with the Nvidia card so I can take advantage of the PhsyX stuff, but apparently you can configure this stuff using an AMD card too. I'll probably look more into it. Also I plan on putting another 8 GB Ram Stick in this build too to make a 16 gb build. Though the stuff I have up there is just to get me started. The Bluray Drive is purely just so I can watch my Blurays on my PC.

Even their cheap FX cpus are a better choice. You're getting a GPU so there's no reason to grab an APU. I'd recommend shooting for Intel though and 4790k would be ideal. Way better performance and it'll last a long time. Don't think there's much of a difference between those motherboards besides the CPUs they support and the audio chips. Unless there's something about that Gigabyte you need, ASrock and MSI should offer what you need at a lower price. Plus they have decent onboard sound these days.

For Windows 7, if you already have a key then you don't need to buy it again. There's programs out there that'll let you view your product key if you didn't save it from before. W7 keys can be activated 5 times so you're safe to reuse it, and even then you can resort to sailing the high seas for methods around that.

I thought Nvidia patched out the hack for enabling GPU PhysX on AMD? I still wouldn't go that route anyway. Get whatever card you want.

If you are mostly gaming there's no point in getting a 4790k

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@Desmonic said:

lol @ the entire mod staff right now.

Deleting posts in a thread about people who are no longer part of this company. Why? What happened to freedom of speech? Why didn't they do the same with ALL THE OTHER THREADS ABOUT PEOPLE BEING FIRED IN MULTIPLE COMPANIES? Why this small form of controlled speech with this particular thread?

lol, just fucking lol.

Granted some people in that thread are being assholes, I still don't think they should be banned just for voicing their opinion. Besides, I've seen much worse stuff not get moderated in my years here.

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@Desmonic said:

lol @ the entire mod staff right now.

Deleting posts in a thread about people who are no longer part of this company. Why? What happened to freedom of speech? Why didn't they do the same with ALL THE OTHER THREADS ABOUT PEOPLE BEING FIRED IN MULTIPLE COMPANIES? Why this small form of controlled speech with this particular thread?

lol, just fucking lol.

Still waiting for a gamespot is doomed thread.

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@Desmonic said:

lol @ the entire mod staff right now.

Deleting posts in a thread about people who are no longer part of this company. Why? What happened to freedom of speech? Why didn't they do the same with ALL THE OTHER THREADS ABOUT PEOPLE BEING FIRED IN MULTIPLE COMPANIES? Why this small form of controlled speech with this particular thread?

lol, just fucking lol.

Freedom of speech on the gamespot forums is clearly frowned upon it seems.

Also,is it just for me or that thread doesn´t seem to be updating?

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@MrYaotubo said:

@Desmonic said:

lol @ the entire mod staff right now.

Deleting posts in a thread about people who are no longer part of this company. Why? What happened to freedom of speech? Why didn't they do the same with ALL THE OTHER THREADS ABOUT PEOPLE BEING FIRED IN MULTIPLE COMPANIES? Why this small form of controlled speech with this particular thread?

lol, just fucking lol.

Freedom of speech on the gamespot forums is clearly frowned upon it seems.

Also,is it just for me or that thread doesn´t seem to be updating?

It's not just you. I saw that too. I think mods are pre-approving posts before they show up.

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#910  Edited By Demonjoe93
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@Desmonic said:

@Demonjoe93: Yeah, but people are assholes in plenty of threads/comments and many of those in SW rarely get banned.

That's why I agree with you. Did anyone band Jankarcop when he made fun of console gamers for "being poor?" Did XboxDone74 AmazonAngry get banned even though that user has said racist and sexist comments multiple times? I see people here laughing at developers for getting fired and losing their jobs. None of these people get banned. Either you're going to ban people for being assholes all the time, or you don't do it at all. They shouldn't be picking-and-choosing situations where being a dick is unacceptable.

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@Desmonic said:

@MrYaotubo: True. Also, nah that's just GS being broken as always. One more reason as to why people left... it was broken, they promised to fix it, they change a lot of things (many for the better, many for the worse) yet it remains broken an unable to handle high-traffic.

@ladyblue: Why? So they can insta-ban anyone that posts in there? :P

@Demonjoe93: Yeah, but people are assholes in plenty of threads/comments and many of those in SW rarely get banned.

I triple dog dare you! :P

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@MrYaotubo said:

@Desmonic said:

lol @ the entire mod staff right now.

Deleting posts in a thread about people who are no longer part of this company. Why? What happened to freedom of speech? Why didn't they do the same with ALL THE OTHER THREADS ABOUT PEOPLE BEING FIRED IN MULTIPLE COMPANIES? Why this small form of controlled speech with this particular thread?

lol, just fucking lol.

Freedom of speech on the gamespot forums is clearly frowned upon it seems.

Also,is it just for me or that thread doesn´t seem to be updating?

Well for one thing, you don't actually have freedom of speech on the GS forums. They have every right to moderate the content

But I'm going to imagine this stems from when Carolyn reviewed GTA V and people got really bad, personally attacking her and her gender identity (?). I'd imagine they're trying to stop any of that before it gets started

@Demonjoe93 said:

@Desmonic said:

@Demonjoe93: Yeah, but people are assholes in plenty of threads/comments and many of those in SW rarely get banned.

That's why I agree with you. Did anyone band Jankarcop when he made fun of console gamers for "being poor?" Did XboxDone74 AmazonAngry get banned even though that user has said racist and sexist comments multiple times? I see people here laughing at developers for getting fired and losing their jobs. None of these people get banned. Either you're going to ban people for assholes all the time, or you don't. They shouldn't be picking-and-choosing situations where being a dick is unacceptable.

Well I think jankar was finally given a vacation (probably suspended) recently for some of comments. I am surprised AmazonAngry is still here, but I guess just saying you don't want racial minorities and women in gaming isn't enough to get banned. But have they actually banned anyone from that thread, or just deleted their posts?

It seems like you have to do something explicitly awful these days to actually get outright banned.

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@Desmonic said:

@ladyblue: What do I get out of it? lol Because if I do it right now, either it'll be deleted or I'm gonna be suspended/banned XD

You must comply. No backsies in a triple dog dare.

Name your price. I might consider it....

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#916  Edited By Demonjoe93
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@Demonjoe93 said:

@Desmonic said:

@Demonjoe93: Yeah, but people are assholes in plenty of threads/comments and many of those in SW rarely get banned.

That's why I agree with you. Did anyone band Jankarcop when he made fun of console gamers for "being poor?" Did XboxDone74 AmazonAngry get banned even though that user has said racist and sexist comments multiple times? I see people here laughing at developers for getting fired and losing their jobs. None of these people get banned. Either you're going to ban people for assholes all the time, or you don't. They shouldn't be picking-and-choosing situations where being a dick is unacceptable.

Well I think jankar was finally given a vacation (probably suspended) recently for some of comments. I am surprised AmazonAngry is still here, but I guess just saying you don't want racial minorities and women in gaming isn't enough to get banned. But have they actually banned anyone from that thread, or just deleted their posts?

It seems like you have to do something explicitly awful these days to actually get outright banned.

The mod with the Okami avatar is saying he will ban people for making rude comments. I'm not sure if there is a way to find out if a user is banned. I know going to their profile doesn't work anymore.

I wonder what JankarCop said to finally get the boot. Must have been worse than making fun of poor people and admitting he date-raped a girl, lol.

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#919  Edited By Demonjoe93
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And in other news, I still can't fucking post my review of Spyro 2. God damn it, GameSpot...

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@Demonjoe93 said:

@Demonjoe93 said:

@Desmonic said:

@Demonjoe93: Yeah, but people are assholes in plenty of threads/comments and many of those in SW rarely get banned.

That's why I agree with you. Did anyone band Jankarcop when he made fun of console gamers for "being poor?" Did XboxDone74 AmazonAngry get banned even though that user has said racist and sexist comments multiple times? I see people here laughing at developers for getting fired and losing their jobs. None of these people get banned. Either you're going to ban people for assholes all the time, or you don't. They shouldn't be picking-and-choosing situations where being a dick is unacceptable.

Well I think jankar was finally given a vacation (probably suspended) recently for some of comments. I am surprised AmazonAngry is still here, but I guess just saying you don't want racial minorities and women in gaming isn't enough to get banned. But have they actually banned anyone from that thread, or just deleted their posts?

It seems like you have to do something explicitly awful these days to actually get outright banned.

The mod with the Okami avatar is saying he will ban people for making rude comments. I'm not sure if there is a way to find out if a user is banned. I know going to their profile doesn't work anymore.

I wonder what JankarCop said to finally get the boot. Must have been worse than making fun of poor people and admitting he date-raped a girl, lol.

I think it was partly that he was using the term "rape" inappropriately and for making threats. I would link it but I think the posts got deleted

As far as I know there's no way to see if someone actually got banned

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@Desmonic said:

@lostrib:

Me saying "Haha, X got fired! Good riddance" doesn't break any pre-established rule, therefore even by that approach it becomes hard to understand why they specifically went out of their way to announce that anyone doing that would be, essentially, fucked. Just for this very, very specific thread.

Ah, I see what you're talking about: "Fair warning: I will not tolerate anyone -- and I mean anyone -- being assholes here. I see even one of you expressing joy at people having just lost their jobs, I won't hesitate to suspend or ban. I'm not in the mood for dealing with any such behavior. Don't. Be. A. Dick"

Not sure why they have a non-SW mod on it. If his level for banning people is "Don't be a dick" or expressing joy at others misfortune, then most of SW (along with like all of OT) would be pretty fucked.

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@lostrib said:

@Demonjoe93 said:

@Demonjoe93 said:

@Desmonic said:

@Demonjoe93: Yeah, but people are assholes in plenty of threads/comments and many of those in SW rarely get banned.

That's why I agree with you. Did anyone band Jankarcop when he made fun of console gamers for "being poor?" Did XboxDone74 AmazonAngry get banned even though that user has said racist and sexist comments multiple times? I see people here laughing at developers for getting fired and losing their jobs. None of these people get banned. Either you're going to ban people for assholes all the time, or you don't. They shouldn't be picking-and-choosing situations where being a dick is unacceptable.

Well I think jankar was finally given a vacation (probably suspended) recently for some of comments. I am surprised AmazonAngry is still here, but I guess just saying you don't want racial minorities and women in gaming isn't enough to get banned. But have they actually banned anyone from that thread, or just deleted their posts?

It seems like you have to do something explicitly awful these days to actually get outright banned.

The mod with the Okami avatar is saying he will ban people for making rude comments. I'm not sure if there is a way to find out if a user is banned. I know going to their profile doesn't work anymore.

I wonder what JankarCop said to finally get the boot. Must have been worse than making fun of poor people and admitting he date-raped a girl, lol.

I think it was partly that he was using the term "rape" inappropriately and for making threats. I would link it but I think the posts got deleted

As far as I know there's no way to see if someone actually got banned

lol, JankarCop. Well, I'm glad he's gone. Now we won't see him proposing incest as a fun activity to be enjoyed.

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@Demonjoe93 said:

@lostrib said:

@Demonjoe93 said:

The mod with the Okami avatar is saying he will ban people for making rude comments. I'm not sure if there is a way to find out if a user is banned. I know going to their profile doesn't work anymore.

I wonder what JankarCop said to finally get the boot. Must have been worse than making fun of poor people and admitting he date-raped a girl, lol.

I think it was partly that he was using the term "rape" inappropriately and for making threats. I would link it but I think the posts got deleted

As far as I know there's no way to see if someone actually got banned

lol, JankarCop. Well, I'm glad he's gone. Now we won't see him proposing incest as a fun activity to be enjoyed.

Well if he does come back, he did admit to not having a PC. So even if he wasn't serious, we can annoy him with that for a while

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http://a.pomf.se/qpvjmz.webm

lmfao

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@Desmonic said:

@lostrib said:

@Desmonic said:

@lostrib:

Me saying "Haha, X got fired! Good riddance" doesn't break any pre-established rule, therefore even by that approach it becomes hard to understand why they specifically went out of their way to announce that anyone doing that would be, essentially, fucked. Just for this very, very specific thread.

Ah, I see what you're talking about: "Fair warning: I will not tolerate anyone -- and I mean anyone -- being assholes here. I see even one of you expressing joy at people having just lost their jobs, I won't hesitate to suspend or ban. I'm not in the mood for dealing with any such behavior. Don't. Be. A. Dick"

Not sure why they have a non-SW mod on it. If his level for banning people is "Don't be a dick" or expressing joy at others misfortune, then most of SW (along with like all of OT) would be pretty fucked.

Pretty much, yeah.

I kind of want to ask for their justification of this, but don't think it's too bright to poke the bear about what is obviously a sensitive subject for GS

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#927  Edited By Ballroompirate
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Broke down and bought one

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#928  Edited By Shadowchronicle
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To be clear that thread doesn't really belong in SW and it would've been better kept in OT. Where people would be expected to be moderated. SW is is a place where people can hate on consoles and pic for whatever reason.

Not only that but many of the people pointing out how we should be stricter on everything would also probably get moderated.

Not that people who only visit SW understand though. Moderation is stricter in other forums. The fact that SW even exists is cherry picking.

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@lostrib said:

@Desmonic said:

@lostrib:

Me saying "Haha, X got fired! Good riddance" doesn't break any pre-established rule, therefore even by that approach it becomes hard to understand why they specifically went out of their way to announce that anyone doing that would be, essentially, fucked. Just for this very, very specific thread.

Ah, I see what you're talking about: "Fair warning: I will not tolerate anyone -- and I mean anyone -- being assholes here. I see even one of you expressing joy at people having just lost their jobs, I won't hesitate to suspend or ban. I'm not in the mood for dealing with any such behavior. Don't. Be. A. Dick"

Not sure why they have a non-SW mod on it. If his level for banning people is "Don't be a dick" or expressing joy at others misfortune, then most of SW (along with like all of OT) would be pretty fucked.

Bothered me a lot more than it probably should have, especially because I don't believe I'm at any risk of having non-tolerable behavior to him. It didn't help calling people scum a couple posts later, regardless of what that other person was doing. If anything, I would imagine a mod should be a bit more civil and level-headed, not letting emotion get in the way when it comes to banning/locking stuff.

Maybe I have the wrong perception of how things should be, though.

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Also wtf I'm gone for like 3.5 hours and shyt goes down!?!? what the hell

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@mems_1224 said:

http://a.pomf.se/qpvjmz.webm

lmfao

Ah, good ol' chance time, the great equalizer in any Mario Party game.

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@Ballroompirate said:

Also wtf I'm gone for like 3.5 hours and shyt goes down!?!? what the hell

You brought the apocalypse when you purchased that PS4! Repent!!!

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@Demonjoe93 said:

@mems_1224 said:

http://a.pomf.se/qpvjmz.webm

lmfao

Ah, good ol' chance time, the great equalizer in any Mario Party game.

The best part is that the two stars that Brad lost he had originally stolen from Drew.

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#934  Edited By Shadowchronicle
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I mean I warned you guys it was going to be a heavily monitored thread. What else am I gonna do? This site runs under a corporation with a loose ToU. Pretty much from the start the motto was don't be a dick and we had to make some sacrifices with that motto because if we followed that as a guideline for SW I'm pretty sure 50% of the posts in here would be deleted.

I'm not trying to be mean but if you guys wanted the same treatment you'll get it and you won't enjoy it either.

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Quick, everyone flag BallroomPirate for bringing Armageddon upon System Wars!

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@mems_1224 said:

@Demonjoe93 said:

@mems_1224 said:

http://a.pomf.se/qpvjmz.webm

lmfao

Ah, good ol' chance time, the great equalizer in any Mario Party game.

The best part is that the two stars that Brad lost he had originally stolen from Drew.

That game destroys friendships. :(

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@Desmonic said:

So, I just poked the bear. This might or might not be farewell. I love you bros, Vita 4 life!

#NeverForget!!

Just in case hehe

I see that. Hope you don't get banned for that.

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@Zassimick said:

@Ballroompirate said:

Also wtf I'm gone for like 3.5 hours and shyt goes down!?!? what the hell

You brought the apocalypse when you purchased that PS4! Repent!!!

No regrets, plus Tom and Carloyn are gone so basically I would be the savior :P, don't know about any of the other people who got fired so can't comment on that.

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#940  Edited By LadyBlue
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A pink vita wallpaper exclusively made for you? ... or other vita trash related goods?

I can't read minds. oh, well... whatevs. :P

The ps4 awaits me.

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@shadowchronicle said:

I mean I warned you guys it was going to be a heavily monitored thread. What else am I gonna do? This site runs under a corporation with a loose ToU. Pretty much from the start the motto was don't be a dick and we had to make some sacrifices with that motto because if we followed that as a guideline for SW I'm pretty sure 50% of the posts in here would be deleted.

I'm not trying to be mean but if you guys wanted the same treatment you'll get it and you won't enjoy it either.

SW just does not handle threats very well. Also, i think many decent users feel there is a seeming lack of consistency in what is allowed.

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@Demonjoe93 said:

@Desmonic said:

So, I just poked the bear. This might or might not be farewell. I love you bros, Vita 4 life!

#NeverForget!!

Just in case hehe

I see that. Hope you don't get banned for that.

I doubt Desmonic is going to get banned. I wouldn't ban someone if they responded to me like that.

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@shadowchronicle said:

@Demonjoe93 said:

@Desmonic said:

So, I just poked the bear. This might or might not be farewell. I love you bros, Vita 4 life!

#NeverForget!!

Just in case hehe

I see that. Hope you don't get banned for that.

I doubt Desmonic is going to get banned. I wouldn't ban someone if they responded to me like that.

Yeah, I can't see him getting banned for that post. If he did, that would be insane.

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@lostrib said:

@shadowchronicle said:

I mean I warned you guys it was going to be a heavily monitored thread. What else am I gonna do? This site runs under a corporation with a loose ToU. Pretty much from the start the motto was don't be a dick and we had to make some sacrifices with that motto because if we followed that as a guideline for SW I'm pretty sure 50% of the posts in here would be deleted.

I'm not trying to be mean but if you guys wanted the same treatment you'll get it and you won't enjoy it either.

SW just does not handle threats very well. Also, i think many decent users feel there is a seeming lack of consistency in what is allowed.

That's true I can understand that.

@Desmonic said:

@shadowchronicle:

It's not so much that it's happening, more so that it's happening just with this thread. There have been countless threads about people being fired and you guys gave 0 shits.

Why can't we go "Haha, good riddance" on this specific one? Were the people on other companies not important as well? Or does GS want to start a self absorbed and self inflated community like the one Bioware has, where any critic (valid or not, intelligent or not, trolling or not, joking or not) is under immediate scrutiny and/or modded? If that's case, YOU (and I mean GS, no you in particular shadow) will be in for a big surprise. Might as well just shut down the forum servers the day that happens.

Yeah that is also true. I've only been here for this one because it was a big event. I mean you can express being discontent with the reviewer in mind and give your reasons, that's always been the case.

I'm pretty helpless here because I'm conflicted between going all out on you guys or just laying back because SW has been kind of pampered since the new ToU. In other forums if you were being a dick you'd be moderated but here its a little different. The thread we're talking about is kind of universal in the sense that not only is SW is affected but other users from other different forums as well. I think it might be better suited to have different threads for each forum and have moderators familiar with that forum settle in the thread.

But with lack of communication today between the moderators makes this frustrating and hard and there's only a few of us on right now. I don't hate you guys though, I won't ever hate you guys. I have a great time posting here.

What I have learned from this though is that I will be stricter on forum trolls in SW though. I think you guys did give some good feedback. I have to comply to certain rules as a moderator since this is a corporation but I'll try to be more flexible in the future.

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@Desmonic: I have to agree, it honestly is gonna back fire if GS mods and staff try to white knight this shyt, but ignored every other thread about people getting fired in the past whether it was that persons fault or not. Also lets face it Tom and Carolyn were on borrowed time for the shyt they were doing or did everyone forget Carolyns bs twitter a few days ago?, I wouldn't be surprised if that one staff member who created that one thread awhile back trying to make his point across in all capital letters for flag abuse also got fired.

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@shadowchronicle said:

That's true I can understand that. ...

What I have learned from this though is that I will be stricter on forum trolls in SW though. I think you guys did give some good feedback. I have to comply to certain rules as a moderator since this is a corporation but I'll try to be more flexible in the future.

I'd like to thank you for your transparency with it. Many times, those of us regular forum posters don't get to understand what is going on with the moderations in a particular instance. Your communication here is certainly a good thing, so thanks for that! :)