System Wars Lounge V.66: Happy Manly New Year Edition

@Blabadon: Good analysis of the game as a whole. It's a great game in terms of significance and impact as you said, but by today's standards it just isn't as fun as I wish it was. Mario's hard to control physics are just ugh and then other aspects of it are just way too outdated to be enjoyed today. Otherwise, yeah it's a really good game.

Also, I am finally prepared for Snowmageddon, as it tears through the East Coast. :(

@PikminWorld: honestly it's a pretty shitty and barebones analysis, but thank you. Game was fun, led to more good Nintendo platformers, then Nintendo starts making New Super Mario Bros and now every platformer they have besides the Galaxy games and Tropical Freeze aren't good or are thoroughly outclassed.

Don't be hard on yourself, it doesn't need to be ultra detailed and "sophisticated" to be a good analysis. It got to the point, you outlined what you disliked, and what you thought was good. Well I would say Super Mario 3D World is still great, but maybe that's just me. :P

It's funny. I loved some SMB1 back in the day, just like everyone else. But after playing SMB3 and SMW I always felt like SMB1 was wildly inferior in every way.

When I got into playing Mario editors though? I realized that I actually love the platforming feel in that game. Given the right kind of level design it really shines. When I play Mario Maker I find myself gravitating to SMB1 themed levels more than the others.

@ConanTheStoner: I was a Super Mario World baby, and my introduction to hacks was Lunar Magic. Totally about Super Mario World. It's nuts what the community has done with Mario Maker.

As for SMB1, like basically every other series that began on the NES, future entries in the series so throughly clowned it on every level. Respect for it being as playable as it is in 2016, and I love me some Mario, but it takes a concentrated effort for me to want to play it over almost any other Mario.

School just bought a PS4 and XBone. Well, there went any reason to ever buy a PS4. Seeing as the only games I want on it, are Bloodborne and Dragon Quest 11 (which probably wont be released until 2018), and Bloodborne should be perfectly doable in a bunch of short sittings if previous games are anything to go by.

Not just you. 3D World was great. Didnt really care for 3D land though for some reason. It was fun, but ultimately, once I beat it I had no desire to return... which is unusual for mario games.

Just picked up the live-action City Hunter film. You know, the film that had one scene that did Street Fighter actual justice unlike the actual film?

Yeah, the Jester's higher speed and mobility (Even without Finale, the basic move command lets him reach the back row iirc) mitigates things somewhat, but it's still risky. As I said, much as I love it, shit happens with that setup. >.> Leper is -awful- if he's not in the front row.

No idea how the Arbalest or Houndmaster are like -- don't have them --, but I'm loving the Man-At-Arms too. Riposte is just way too good.

Goddamn, Chrono Trigger's combat system can be such an absolute piece of shit sometimes.

Huh? How?

Turn off ATB.

@charizard1605: I don't know if that would help. I got stuck in a loop of Confuse and being attacked with my last standing character (because sedentary enemies I was walking by only became hostile the second part I walked by them) and then she died and I had to start over. I literally just put the DS down and watched as I couldn't do shit.

Definitely don't like how Confuse works in this game.

Oh. Yeah, man, definitely, status conditions are a bitch in this game. That, plus I don't like how inconsistent aggro'ing enemies is.

@charizard1605: whoever said you can see all the enemies you face in the field is a liar, man. Only 60% or so battles are this way. Games that actually let you see are Persona and SuperStar Saga.

3d world is fine, it's mechanically irritating though, wide platforms for the sake of it, and lacks the novelty of the Galaxy stuff. Albeit sure it did have its own tricks. Good game, would argue against great though. Way too regressive in the mechanics department.

I'm really enjoying my return to the Souls franchise after two years hiatus due to franchise fatigue. Bloodborne ( one of the best games ) and just few days ago finishing Dark Souls 2 again on PS4. I just love these games.

So now I am wondering if I should revisit Dark Souls 1 since I have not replayed it for like 4 years. And with Dark Souls 3 coming up I fear if I play DS1 the fatigue may set in again by the time I start the game.

Has there ever been a time when you guys just said I need a break from this series?

@jg4xchamp: What do you mean wide platforms?

@a-new-guardian: I played through Dark Souls 2 about half a year ago and just bought a PS4 last weekend with Bloodborne and haven't felt up to it yet. I have to be in the right mind for that Souls experience but when the mood finally strikes I'll end up no-lifing Bloodborne in about a week. I'll probably wait for DS3 to drop in price before picking that up as well.

A lot of the platforms are unnecessarily wide for the psuedo 2d thing going, alleviating any concept of pressure on the player to even land on tight spaces because you have so much room to work. Not that Mario Galaxy didn't have that, but they found a better balance with it in 2, especially in the difficulty curve department. 3D world is cake city until about the final 2 worlds.

@jg4xchamp: I see what you mean. At first I hated the view perspective, but I grew to like the game over time. I agree it's good, but somewhat regressive.

I never really got over it to be quite honest, I just thought it was odd as **** for a game that felt exceptional in that department to begin with. More than the taking away of some of Mario's tricks, the more basic movement never felt as good to me as the rest of the 3d mario games. Otherwise the game is pretty damn good, exceptional in so many other ways given the sheer variety, the visual polish, and that it is fucking Mario so it naturally still plays better than the disgusting majority of modern video games or crap gassed up by illmatic and blabadon.

And... sold.

Yeah, a run button in a 3D Mario? Pffft. Long jumps got hurt the most by that.

Yeah must have added that button for the chazes of the world, fucking Chaz, ruining video games one day at a time.

I feel like someone said the gunplay in Fallout 4 is good.

That person is a liar.

Hi pretty celeb friends

I like the run button...

That would be mems.

Anyway, the gunplay is shit. With VATS, though, the combat is pretty cool.

Run button was great, in original Mario Bros where it made sense. 3d mario? We didn't fucking need it. You and your support for the death of fun in video games.

Also guys really had an all star performance as the Uncle of the forever today, me and the nephew been going through the Young Justice seasons, because he actually dug it, and I wanted to see the joy leave his eyes when he realizes they end that show with Darkseid, and then proceed to not have another season because Cartoon Network hates good things. It was glorious listening to him discovering the sadness that is a show you like coming to an abrupt end, with the worst version of closure possibru. It was a delightful bonding moment for us : D

Just don't get him into Samurai Jack, I still haven't gotten over the salt from that one two decades later.

But Jack is back this year!

Young Justice happened on its own, and I like DC's animated stuff enough to sit through those so we made that a thing. Doubt he gets into Samurai Jack, youngins never want to get into your stuff, they want their stuff. I learned my lesson when they rereleased Lion King into theaters for a bit in 2011, had to force those brats to come along. I have to go watch their shitty moves, but I ask for The Lion King, and I'm the bad guy. Ridiculous.

@charizard1605: please show me where I said the gunplay was good.

The only thing I've noticed that's bad about the Man-At-Arms is that his trickets seem bad.

Arbalest isnt too bad actually, just seems to be outclassed by the flexibility of Bounty Hunter and Hellions as damage dealers. She has the hardest hitting single target skill vs. marked enemies. She's just a little slow, but I prefer her over the Highwayman.

Houndmasters have the best Mark in the game since it comes with a complimentary debuff and its support skill can be a lifesaver. Bleeds are a little weak, but he+dog can hit anything which is handy for reliable offense when you need it.

The only Hero that I havent used much is the Abomination.

Well, at least your nephew has some semblance of good taste.

Except for the bit about Lion King. That shit's inexcusable.

Idk, I'm just assuming you did :p

And I guarantee it'll be trash :(

So I say someone is a liar.

chaz says that mems is the liar.

mems calls chaz out to show proof.

chaz says he was just assuming.

...

Well that escalated quickly. Looks like we found out who the liar is, boys.

@Zassimick: IT WAS YOU

I played and just beat That Dragon, Cancer, it is impossible for a video game to ever be that sad.

Sad like good sad, as in it made you sad because of some great writing and storytelling, or sad like 'good god, this thing is pathetic'?

@Zassimick: unlike @charizard1605, aka the worst pokemon ever, I don't put games on a ridiculous pedestal just because I like them

I've never cried during a video game (Walking Dead was man tears at best). I've choked up, in contrast The Son from Friday Night Lights makes me tear up, a lot of Six Feet Under has made me tear up, not full on cried though. Maybe it's the old age, maybe it's the fact that the sheer idea of a child suffering through cancer is inherently so shitty that it evokes that type of reaction, but oh my fucking god did I break. And the game wait till the end either, I was pretty much choking up and man tear town pretty early in the game with a lot of the stuff the mom was going through.

But the 11th scene in this game, was just the epitome of heartbreaking.

Didn't know the premise for the game. That sounds like it'd be excessively depressing.

I should give the game a go, we don't get enough well written ones.

It's only on Steam right now, right?

This is exactly why I could never bring myself to try something like That Dragon, Cancer. I'm not saying it's bad or anything, just saying it's not for me.

It's on the ouya if you really went to rep that rikasaki life.

Waiting for a PS4 port it is, then.

Oh it's on Steam too, surely your third world pc can run it.

Honestly, I'm a little curious how

A: some of those people reviewed the thing
B: fucking put a number or letter grade on a game like that.

Papo & Yo had a heavy subject matter, but it was easier to compartmentalize the subject matter away from the puzzle designs, because the puzzles are puzzles. They don't need to be fun, but they weren't a particularly good use in the context of that story, outside of a very superficial framework for someone dealing with their shitty dad: the initial wacky world being the denial stage, the puzzle stretch being the person working it all out, and the ending sequence being the resolution for that person.

This? I mean there aren't much in the way of mechanics guiding the story, and all of the story happens to be a thing that happened to those people. You are literally hearing the parents of that child tell you what they went through, shit is depressing as ****. And the idea of putting a score on it is like extra odd to me, 6 out of 10, 9 out of 10, 2 out of 10? Sorry your son dying isn't a 10 out of 10 depressing story? You know? I get that scores are necessary evil, but I personally could never bring myself to review it proper.

@jg4xchamp: It could, but I have a Mac.

It's on the mac as well.

Hm.

Alright, I'm outta excuses, I'll look into it.