SYSTEM WARS VOTES: The Greatest RPG of This Generation (Final Tally)

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

I know right? Thank god we still have games like Demon's Souls to show us what true role playing is.

Master_ShakeXXX

Exactly. I wouldn't be so upset if peoples' lists were from the following:

• Demon's Souls
• Dark Souls
• Fallout: NV
• NWN 2
• Divinity II
• Xenoblades
• The Last Story

And a few others. But nooooooo. Mass Effect 2, Skyrim, and The Witcher 2. Those are action-adventure games, people.

Wait, you actually agreed with me? I wasn't being serious.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

Exactly. I wouldn't be so upset if peoples' lists were from the following:

• Demon's Souls
• Dark Souls
• Fallout: NV
• NWN 2
• Divinity II
• Xenoblades
• The Last Story

And a few others. But nooooooo. Mass Effect 2, Skyrim, and The Witcher 2. Those are action-adventure games, people.

FrozenLiquid

The Witcher and Mass Effect are not RPGs? OK. Will take your word for it since you're the authority on this crap. (granted, I don't like ME2, but 1 and 3 are awesome).

The Witcher 2 is an RPG. Mass Effect 2 is more TPS than RPG (which is why I don't like it, but it's an RPG). I also have Fallout. I haven't played it yet, but it'll be hard for me to go and play that right now since 1) I'm replaying Mass Effect trilogy and 2) New Vegas is teh hawtness and demands my attention for a Fallout fix.

Oh NOW I know what an RPG. Silly me, I was voting for the wrong thing.

This is the greatest RPG of This Generation.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Oh God, here we go.freedomfreak

Hey man, might as well just use GameSpot's definition of an RPG as it was never specified what is and isn't in the OP. Helps with the headaches and all.

NO GUYS YOU HAVE IT WRONG!

If you know what an RPG is you'll totally vote for what I say is good. Otherwise you have no f*cking clue and theefore your taste is revolting.

Because, you know, action-RPGs don't exist on a best RPG list. No, no, no, we call them action/adventure these days and then we brag about the RPGs that we like instead.

YOU EITHER GET IT OR YOU DON'T, NOOBS!

*btw, The Witcher 2 is still one of the best RPGs released this gen. Those that disagree, I'm happy for you. But you can just suck mah d*ck.

NeonNinja

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

So about my new sig, yay or nay?

Goyoshi12

Nay.

She dances like an idiot. Yeah, she's got a nice body, but I wouldn't approach her and ask her to dance if I saw her moving like that in public. It's not attractive at all.

Wait...she's dancing?

Whatever she's doing, it's not cute. At all.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

I know right? Thank god we still have games like Demon's Souls to show us what true role playing is.

Master_ShakeXXX

Exactly. I wouldn't be so upset if peoples' lists were from the following:

• Demon's Souls
• Dark Souls
• Fallout: NV
• NWN 2
• Divinity II
• Xenoblades
• The Last Story

And a few others. But nooooooo. Mass Effect 2, Skyrim, and The Witcher 2. Those are action-adventure games, people.

Wait, you actually agreed with me? I wasn't being serious.

Wait... are you honestly saying Demon's Souls isnt a true RPG? :lol:

Damn, I dont agree with the other dude saying TW2 isnt an RPG either but claiming DS isnt a true RPG is going beyond stupid

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

NO GUYS YOU HAVE IT WRONG!

If you know what an RPG is you'll totally vote for what I say is good. Otherwise you have no f*cking clue and theefore your taste is revolting.

Because, you know, action-RPGs don't exist on a best RPG list. No, no, no, we call them action/adventure these days and then we brag about the RPGs that we like instead.

YOU EITHER GET IT OR YOU DON'T, NOOBS!

*btw, The Witcher 2 is still one of the best RPGs released this gen. Those that disagree, I'm happy for you. But you can just suck mah d*ck.

FrozenLiquid

CAPS LOCK MUST MEAN I'M MAD AND NOT PARODYING PEOPLE. OH SNAPZ!!

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Nay.

She dances like an idiot. Yeah, she's got a nice body, but I wouldn't approach her and ask her to dance if I saw her moving like that in public. It's not attractive at all.

NeonNinja

Wait...she's dancing?

Whatever she's doing, it's not cute. At all.

..................

Huh? What? Uh...yeah, yeah....it's not cute at all.

Not.....cute......in the....sligh....test....

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Oh God, here we go.NeonNinja

Hey man, might as well just use GameSpot's definition of an RPG as it was never specified what is and isn't in the OP. Helps with the headaches and all.

Mass Effect 2 is the big one. I really don't think it should be a factor in this contest. Just my two cents.

I mean if we count ME2 we might as well throw Gears of War in too, amirite?

Mass Effect 2 is the big one. I really don't think it should be a factor in this contest. Just my two cents.

I mean if we count ME2 we might as well throw Gears of War in too, amirite?

Master_ShakeXXX

Hey man! Mass Effect 2 was an awesome RPG! I loved it and am right now on my third....play....through.........of......it...

Damn your sig. Damn it.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] You know, this thread is actually asking for it. It teases like a motherfvcker.freedomfreak

Hey man, might as well just use GameSpot's definition of an RPG as it was never specified what is and isn't in the OP. Helps with the headaches and all.

I hope The Witcher 2 wins. Great gameplay, great dialogue, great choices throughout the game that shape the adventure and story. No game this gen has really done that in my opinion except for New Vegas. I love both, but The Witcher 2 is just so awesome. I wish I could do a top ten though. I need to see New Vegas represented.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

So about my new sig, yay or nay?

NeonNinja

Nay.

She dances like an idiot. Yeah, she's got a nice body, but I wouldn't approach her and ask her to dance if I saw her moving like that in public. It's not attractive at all.

I would. I'd start doing the rain dance around her and yell to everybody that she's my girlfriend.

Who cares how good shes dancing when her jugs are bouncing around?

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Mass Effect 2 is the big one. I really don't think it should be a factor in this contest. Just my two cents.

I mean if we count ME2 we might as well throw Gears of War in too, amirite?

Goyoshi12

Hey man! Mass Effect 2 was an awesome RPG! I loved it and am right now on my third....play....through.........of......it...

Damn your sig. Damn it.

We need to work on your standards bro. She's cute, but she's moving like a crippled girl.

As for ME2, it's an RPG. No point in comparing Gears of War to it. It is a dumbed down RPG that focuses mostly on action, but still an RPG. ME3 is the best out of the bunch as it finds a happy middle ground between RPG and action as a true hybrid. You should play it when you get the chance. I think you'll like it.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Hey man, might as well just use GameSpot's definition of an RPG as it was never specified what is and isn't in the OP. Helps with the headaches and all.

NeonNinja

I hope The Witcher 2 wins. Great gameplay, great dialogue, great choices throughout the game that shape the adventure and story. No game this gen has really done that in my opinion except for New Vegas. I love both, but The Witcher 2 is just so awesome. I wish I could do a top ten though. I need to see New Vegas represented.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Hey man, might as well just use GameSpot's definition of an RPG as it was never specified what is and isn't in the OP. Helps with the headaches and all.

NeonNinja

I hope The Witcher 2 wins. Great gameplay, great dialogue, great choices throughout the game that shape the adventure and story. No game this gen has really done that in my opinion except for New Vegas. I love both, but The Witcher 2 is just so awesome. I wish I could do a top ten though. I need to see New Vegas represented.

Where's slashless when you need him?

I'm not arguing I actually want to know, I apparently never knew what an RPG was in the first place.

Goyoshi12

The Witcher 2 as #1? Wow such a hermitspot. Its a good AAA game, in fact its quite amazing, but FAR from the best RPG this gen.

My vote:

1. Skyrim

2. Obivlion

3. Dragon Age: Origins.

TW2 might go in my top 5 though

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

So about my new sig, yay or nay?

Master_ShakeXXX

Nay.

She dances like an idiot. Yeah, she's got a nice body, but I wouldn't approach her and ask her to dance if I saw her moving like that in public. It's not attractive at all.

I would. I'd start doing the rain dance around her and yell to everybody that she's my girlfriend.

Who cares how good shes dancing when her jugs are bouncing around?

Girlfriend, fine. But never taken out dancing in public. I have no idea what she's doing at all.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] You have no f*cking idea.DarkLink77

You would go to jail for that. Don't lie.

1. Fallout: New Vegas
2. Deus Ex: Human Revolution
3. The Witcher

If I could, I'd let New Vegas take two spots. It's that damn good.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"] :lol: If only one could turn back time. If only.Master_ShakeXXX

You would go to jail for that. Don't lie.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Nay.

She dances like an idiot. Yeah, she's got a nice body, but I wouldn't approach her and ask her to dance if I saw her moving like that in public. It's not attractive at all.

NeonNinja

I would. I'd start doing the rain dance around her and yell to everybody that she's my girlfriend.

Who cares how good shes dancing when her jugs are bouncing around?

Girlfriend, fine. But never taken out dancing in public. I have no idea what she's doing at all.

It's teh cat daddy.

1. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

2. Mass Effect 2

3. Dragon Age: Origins

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

I'm not arguing I actually want to know, I apparently never knew what an RPG was in the first place.

FrozenLiquid

I already got Fallout back when it was for freeon GOG and have played quite a bit out of it.

Still not answering my question though because now it seems that any definition of an RPG or what makes an RPG different from the other genres can be said for the other genres.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] More like, if only she was three years older, and I could turn back time.FrozenLiquid

You would go to jail for that. Don't lie.

Ah, I know how that goes. There were a few girls back in grade school I had a chance with but blew them off because they weren't attractive. Come either my junior or senior year they turned into f*cking godesses. Still kicking myself for that one.

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

I'm not arguing I actually want to know, I apparently never knew what an RPG was in the first place.

FrozenLiquid

I was recently playing Planescape: Torment. It plays night and day between it and say Mass Effect 2. It doesn't mean that one's an RPG and the other isn't. There are so many types of RPGs out there from action RPGs, to turn-based to strategy and more.

I also played Final Fantasy IV recently and it also plays day and night compared to Planescape: Torment.

I also played Chrono Trigger, which is my favorite RPG of all time. And do you know what plays similarly to Chrono Trigger in many regards? The Witcher 2.

Why should people base their beliefs on what an RPG is based on your criteria here? RPG is a broad genre that's broken up into many smaller groups. I hate to tell you this, but you've got a narrow-minded view on what the genre is.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

I'm not arguing I actually want to know, I apparently never knew what an RPG was in the first place.

NeonNinja

I was recently playing Planescape: Torment. It plays night and day between it and say Mass Effect 2. It doesn't mean that one's an RPG and the other isn't. There are so many types of RPGs out there from action RPGs, to turn-based to strategy and more.

I also played Final Fantasy IV recently and it also plays day and night compared to Planescape: Torment.

I also played Chrono Trigger, which is my favorite RPG of all time. And do you know what plays similarly to Chrono Trigger in many regards? The Witcher 2.

Why should people base their beliefs on what an RPG is based on your criteria here? RPG is a broad genre that's broken up into many smaller groups. I hate to tell you this, but you've got a narrow-minded view on what the genre is.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

You would go to jail for that. Don't lie.

Master_ShakeXXX

Ah, I know how that goes. There were a few girls back in grade school I had a chance with but blew them off because they weren't attractive. Come either my junior or senior year they turned into f*cking godesses. Still kicking myself for that one.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

I'm not arguing I actually want to know, I apparently never knew what an RPG was in the first place.

Goyoshi12

I already got Fallout back when it was for freeon GOG and have played quite a bit out of it.

Still not answering my question though because now it seems that any definition of an RPG or what makes an RPG different from the other genres can be said for the other genres.

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Mass Effect 2 is the big one. I really don't think it should be a factor in this contest. Just my two cents.

I mean if we count ME2 we might as well throw Gears of War in too, amirite?

NeonNinja

Hey man! Mass Effect 2 was an awesome RPG! I loved it and am right now on my third....play....through.........of......it...

Damn your sig. Damn it.

We need to work on your standards bro. She's cute, but she's moving like a crippled girl.

As for ME2, it's an RPG. No point in comparing Gears of War to it. It is a dumbed down RPG that focuses mostly on action, but still an RPG. ME3 is the best out of the bunch as it finds a happy middle ground between RPG and action as a true hybrid. You should play it when you get the chance. I think you'll like it.

But the bounce, man. THE BOUNCE.

As for Mass Effect 2, I don't really know anymore. People call it a dumbed down RPG but with no basis for what an RPG is I can't really agree or disagree. All I can say is that I had fun in Mass Effect 2, lots of fun, loads of fun, and I consider it a very good game. That's all I can really say for it.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

I'm not arguing I actually want to know, I apparently never knew what an RPG was in the first place.

NeonNinja

I was recently playing Planescape: Torment. It plays night and day between it and say Mass Effect 2. It doesn't mean that one's an RPG and the other isn't. There are so many types of RPGs out there from action RPGs, to turn-based to strategy and more.

I also played Final Fantasy IV recently and it also plays day and night compared to Planescape: Torment.

I also played Chrono Trigger, which is my favorite RPG of all time. And do you know what plays similarly to Chrono Trigger in many regards? The Witcher 2.

Why should people base their beliefs on what an RPG is based on your criteria here? RPG is a broad genre that's broken up into many smaller groups. I hate to tell you this, but you've got a narrow-minded view on what the genre is.

I always just classified games with an upgrade system and loot system as RPGs. I'm a simple guy like dat.

This thread has been hijacked by Kate Upton, dancing, and "this game is not an RPG" debates.

This thread has been hijacked by Kate Upton, dancing, and "this game is not an RPG" debates.

Master_ShakeXXX

I was recently playing Planescape: Torment. It plays night and day between it and say Mass Effect 2. It doesn't mean that one's an RPG and the other isn't. There are so many types of RPGs out there from action RPGs, to turn-based to strategy and more.

I also played Final Fantasy IV recently and it also plays day and night compared to Planescape: Torment.

I also played Chrono Trigger, which is my favorite RPG of all time. And do you know what plays similarly to Chrono Trigger in many regards? The Witcher 2.

Why should people base their beliefs on what an RPG is based on your criteria here? RPG is a broad genre that's broken up into many smaller groups. I hate to tell you this, but you've got a narrow-minded view on what the genre is.

NeonNinja

Lemme ask you a question.

Where in my original post did I ask people to follow my own criteria for what is an RPG. I'll post my original comment in the thread

Dear Lord,

How many people actually played The Witcher 2? One of the best games of the generation, but seriously, how the f*ck was that a RPG except for the developers claiming it was. Then it hit me: the list of games available this gen, and the ones people are voting for are absolutely revolting. Wasteland 2 and all those PC Kickstarter RPGs cannot come soon enough.FrozenLiquid

I didn't call out any particular poster. I didn't quote a comment of any particular poster. I didn't shove my opinion down the throats of anyone in the thread. I just made one comment, and it happened to not be in favour of what was happening on here. Apparently it caused the world to burn.

Lemme ask you a second question:

What the f*ck is your problem? I got no beef with you, or your views, or what games you like, or whatever. I suppose if your perrsonal crusade in this thread is therapeutive, I give you my blessing to continue to vilify my comments. If not, just drop it dude. Nothing good is going to come out of it.

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1. Elder Scrolls Skyrim
2. Mass Effect 2
3. Mass Effect 1

1. Elder Scrolls Skyrim
2. Mass Effect 2
3. Mass Effect 1

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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

Hey man! Mass Effect 2 was an awesome RPG! I loved it and am right now on my third....play....through.........of......it...

Damn your sig. Damn it.

Goyoshi12

We need to work on your standards bro. She's cute, but she's moving like a crippled girl.

As for ME2, it's an RPG. No point in comparing Gears of War to it. It is a dumbed down RPG that focuses mostly on action, but still an RPG. ME3 is the best out of the bunch as it finds a happy middle ground between RPG and action as a true hybrid. You should play it when you get the chance. I think you'll like it.

But the bounce, man. THE BOUNCE.

As for Mass Effect 2, I don't really know anymore. People call it a dumbed down RPG but with no basis for what an RPG is I can't really agree or disagree. All I can say is that I had fun in Mass Effect 2, lots of fun, loads of fun, and I consider it a very good game. That's all I can really say for it.

Yes, she's pretty. She still is not doing anything, well, nice. :P

In regards to Mass Effect 2, I've explained my stance many times on it.

If you've played the first Mass Effect, it's a dumbed down shooter that relies on auto-aim and a lot of stats to help you get better.

For Mass Effect 2, it focuses more on the TPS combat and removes a lot of those stats. They're still present and you can get better at the game, but they aren't necessary for you to use them to complete the game. You can beat ME2 by simply going into cover and playing it like a shooter. The decisions are very black and white though.

Mass Effect 3 is where the balancing act takes place. The levels open up, but are not as open as in ME1. The stats are still streamlined like in ME2, but the difficulty of combat is ramped up making it necessary to level up your skills the way you want to play.

They aren't bad games, but ME1 veers towards the traditional, stat-based RPG gameplay, playing essentially like a real-time KotOR and Mass Effect 2 removes a lot of those things, focusing on extremely linear level design and action gameplay with unique characters while Mass Effect 3 melds the best of both.

Anyway, if you REALLY want an idea on how I feel about ME2, I can link you that thread I made a few days ago. But I don't think it's necessary. All I know is ME2's focus to action gameplay is my main point. It's still an action-RPG, of course, but ME3 better utilizes the whole level-progression without returning to minutae of the first game.

The entire trilogy however is worth playing, if only to see how the games evolve/change and eventually settle on ME3.

It drops the ball on the ending, but hey, you can't win 'em all. :P

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

I was recently playing Planescape: Torment. It plays night and day between it and say Mass Effect 2. It doesn't mean that one's an RPG and the other isn't. There are so many types of RPGs out there from action RPGs, to turn-based to strategy and more.

I also played Final Fantasy IV recently and it also plays day and night compared to Planescape: Torment.

I also played Chrono Trigger, which is my favorite RPG of all time. And do you know what plays similarly to Chrono Trigger in many regards? The Witcher 2.

Why should people base their beliefs on what an RPG is based on your criteria here? RPG is a broad genre that's broken up into many smaller groups. I hate to tell you this, but you've got a narrow-minded view on what the genre is.

FrozenLiquid

Lemme ask you a question.

Where in my original post did I ask people to follow my own criteria for what is an RPG. I'll post my original comment in the thread

Dear Lord,

How many people actually played The Witcher 2? One of the best games of the generation, but seriously, how the f*ck was that a RPG except for the developers claiming it was. Then it hit me: the list of games available this gen, and the ones people are voting for are absolutely revolting. Wasteland 2 and all those PC Kickstarter RPGs cannot come soon enough.FrozenLiquid

I didn't call out any particular poster. I didn't quote a comment of any particular poster. I didn't shove my opinion down the throats of anyone in the thread. I just made one comment, and it happened to not be in favour of what was happening on here. Apparently it caused the world to burn.

Lemme ask you a second question:

What the f*ck is your problem? I got no beef with you, or your views, or what games you like, or whatever. I suppose if your perrsonal crusade in this thread is therapeutive, I give you my blessing to continue to vilify my comments. If not, just drop it dude. Nothing good is going to come out of it.