@ NeonNinja
What do you mean no? That's what i said. :/
Actually, if you can be bothered, could you? Haven't played NV yet, but I can't see for the life of me how it could feel like the older games while using FO3's template. Man, did I hate FO3. Most boring game ever.FrozenLiquid
God damn it. Too lazy for this. Pulled some old quotes though from this thread
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The thing is, progress was shown, but out in the West. DC was hit much harder and didn't have the luxury of any organized government, and the Enclave made things worse by deliberately sabotaging any attempts to do so. Fallout 3 makes sense as a wasteland, and the dirty look of things happens when you don't have running water or electricity like they do out in the western USA, so even 200 years later it can make sense for things to be the way they are over in DC.
Plus even discounting the difference in aesthetics of the dirty look in both games, New Vegas just kind of sucks as a place. I loved it, don't get me wrong, but the desert felt blander by comparison with less interesting areas or interiors to explore (aside from the Vaults which were awesome in both games), while I felt the city was tiny and lifeless. Sure there were design limitations, but a supposedly bustling place should have more then a dozen NPC's in one giant space at any time, especially in the Casino where you'd have like two or three people sitting at a table or gambling.
I know if they added more the game would have been more of a crash fest then it already was, but the change in trying to go back to the more refined Western area doesn't work when it ends up feeling lifeless, but without the devastation and explanation that the DC wasteland has.
Slashless
As a location, sure it made "sense". As a game however, FO3 completely f*cked up.
First, and I can let this one go on the account these people are just stupid, why is there a settlement built around a bomb? Not near it, but right smack dab in the middle there is a bomb ready to explode at any time. That was just complete laziness on Bethesda's part, trying to strongly show off the stupid Karma system with that.
Secondly, was Bethesda completely unaware of who the Brotherhood of Steel was? The BoS NEVER cared about the safety of others, Caesar put it best. There technology horders that have no goal. They've always been about protecting themselves, yet somehow the Capital Wasteland division "broke off" from the rest of the group to help the people of the Capital Wasteland. They somehow got that many members to agree to COMPLETELY do a 180 and change goals. That's as if the East division of Caesar's Legion decided to help innocent tribes from slavers. Does it make sense? no. It was just more laziness on Bethseda's part to come up with a protagonist faction for the game, not able to come up with something original, or something that makes sense. That, and why is there a main protagonist factions in this game? It's an RPG. Shouldn't I be able to choose who I want to help. No, I have to help the BoS, who are "saints".
There are many other things that don't make sense in the game (The Enclave's presense for example) but I'm moving on to your other points.
You argue that NV isn't as "busy" as it should be, yet just look at FO3. One of the major settlements consists of 5 people and 4 Traders. The Republic of Dave consists of 5 adults and a sh*t ton of children. Other than Rivet City, Underworld and Megaton, there aren't many non main faction related settlements. At least with NV you have The Strip, Freeside, Goodsprings, Primm(though small), Novac, Hidden Valley, the Fiend Vault (which is friendly), Powder Ganger vault, NCR Correctional Facilities, Red Rock Canyon, Boomers(forgot the name of their settlement), Mormon Fort(along with other Freeside areas), 188 Trading post, and Westside. That's not even including any NCR/Legion related buildigns.
Sure, you can argue that given DC was directly impacted by the bomb it's settlement count is limited, but the fact that New Vegas is as thriving as it is despite being in the middle of a huge war makes that point moot. Sure, FO3 has better landmarks, but it's DC. That's like me praising New Vegas for having better gambling than DC. Plus, Fallout 3's bland color scheme makes the game dull. It's white and grey if you go to the inner city, it's brown if you go anywhere else. That and repetitive tunnel systems make the game stale and boring. It would be better if they all didn't look exactly the same, weren't dark as sh*t, and weren't so plentiful in numbers.
You probably won't read that but eh.
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