Team Fortress 2 vs Halo: Reach Multiplayer

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#201 ampiva
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TF2 has one of the worst communities in PC gaming.
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#202 Cloud567kar
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[QUOTE="Karnage108"]9.5 > 8.5 haters owned.Locutus_Picard
Except that PC Standards >>>> Console standards... A direct port of Reach would have gotten a shocking 8.0 because it's outdated by PC standards. On consoles, if it has jetpacks and sprint...it's AA guaranteed.

How so?

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#203 deactivated-6079d224de716
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Hai gaiz I see you're having fun here :lol:

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#204 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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TF2 has one of the worst communities in PC gaming.ampiva

hmmmmmm. Polar opposite actually

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#205 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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I've played TF2 for about 150 hours. Its a good game, but I wouldn't say its FAR better than reach. Right now I'm liking reach more. I don't know if that will last or not, seeing how reach came out a week ago. As far as communities go, they both have their ups and downs. On tf2 you get those mic spammers who play 4 chans memes non stop, and on 360 you have the kids. Both can be muted.albi321
But that's my favorite server on TF2 ...
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#206 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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TF2 has one of the worst communities in PC gaming.ampiva
how so? one of the servers i frequent commonly has political debates. CSS has kids bragging about how pro they are.
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#207 shaneras
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TF2 is a great game on PC. On consoles...

No so much. So Reach on consoles, TF2 on PC.

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#208 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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[QUOTE="ampiva"]TF2 has one of the worst communities in PC gaming.ferret-gamer
how so? one of the servers i frequent commonly has political debates. CSS has kids bragging about how pro they are.

Not as many kids as Cod or Halo on the consoles, but alot of servers on css are pretty bad.
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#209 AiurProtoss
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TF2
-You could have bought it for $7,50 or $10 during Steam Holiday sales
-Keyboard and mouse
-Valve continues to update and add more content
-Make your own mods and maps and play those of others

Reach
-Full-priced at $40-$50
-Analog sticks and controller

Aside from personal preferences. TF2 sets an example for every online shooter.
I don't even like shooters but TF2 does it so well that it appeals to anyone.
Reach...? Meh...it couldn't even hold a candle to TF2.

Locutus_Picard

and despite all those reasons more people still play Halo.

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#210 FGMPR
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[QUOTE="HaloReachGOTY"]

im saying reach>>>>>tf2 based on facts....Ratings, and number of ppl online.....what do you base your conclusion on?........opinion.

tagyhag

Oh? Where are you getting these "Ratings" from?

It's funny this is mentioned because in the latest PC Powerplay (an Australian mag), they just re-rated TF2 from a 9, which they gave it back in 07, to a 10, as they felt that it's practically a new game. Any rating of HR is unfair as a comparison because pretty much every rating for TF2 is based on the launch version, which has about 20% of the content and features of the game today.
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#211 Upparoom
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[QUOTE="ampiva"]TF2 has one of the worst communities in PC gaming.ferret-gamer
how so? one of the servers i frequent commonly has political debates. CSS has kids bragging about how pro they are.

Your server=/=everyone's server

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#212 FGMPR
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[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"]

TF2
-You could have bought it for $7,50 or $10 during Steam Holiday sales
-Keyboard and mouse
-Valve continues to update and add more content
-Make your own mods and maps and play those of others

Reach
-Full-priced at $40-$50
-Analog sticks and controller

Aside from personal preferences. TF2 sets an example for every online shooter.
I don't even like shooters but TF2 does it so well that it appeals to anyone.
Reach...? Meh...it couldn't even hold a candle to TF2.

AiurProtoss

and despite all those reasons more people still play Halo.

Who cares how many people play it? It's the product of a massive marketing campaign from the worlds biggest company. It's going to sell well, no matter the quality. TF2 has had zero magazine, television adverts and has relied on a building reputation, Steam and word of mouth to make sales. There's kind of a huge difference, and yet, even so, in 10 years lot's of people will still be playing TF2, like lot's of people are still play CS 1.6, unlike HR, which will be dead in a few years.

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#213 psn8214
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I don't know about you guys, but I think TF2 is ten times more fun when everyone has a mic and we're all trash-talking. It's just one of those games that genuinelly benefits from that.

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#214 kidcool189
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Team fortress 2 by a long shot, but ive been enjoying reach more than i expected.
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#215 lordreaven
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="enterawesome"]TF2 is mediocre on the consoles, on PC, it looks a lot better. Still, Valve should have tried way harder on consoles, and for that, I say Reach.enterawesome
Valve did try with the 360 version, they wanted to give them the updates for free, but MS wouldn't allow them.

Are you ****ing kidding me? God, I hate Microsoft...

Nope, i'm, not joking. http://www.planetxbox360.com/article_7760/Valve_Microsoft_Forced_Us_to_Charge_for_Left_4_Dead_DLC

I know it says L4D but after this they didn't bother to try.

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#216 DivergeUnify
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TF2, but they both are great in different ways. Right now I completely suck at Reach so I don't have a blast :P
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#217 SparkyProtocol
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Obviously the hermits that are saying TF2 have played both games. Obviously they're both comparable. I'm going to disregard the major differences in the way they both play out and also disregard all of the things you can do in Reach like firefight, racing, etc that you can't do in TF2 and I will also disregard Reach's competitive scene aka MajorLeagueFail and Arena. TF2 gais (im not super serious btw but its my 2 cents regardless)
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#218 zero_snake99
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Tf2, hands down. It'll be better 3 years from now, it'll be better 5 years from now. Class based strategy based gameplay that has constant free add-ons and maps for available use. Not to mention dedicated servers.
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#219 DarkLink77
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I prefer Reach.

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#220 raynimrod
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I personally think TF2 is horrible, so despite my feelings of repulsion towards the Halo games I'm going to say Reach.

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#221 ice144
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I prefer TF2 over Halo Reach, which is an opinion. However, one thing that is undeniable is that TF2's community is league's better than Halo's.
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#222 Eggimannd
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Obviously the hermits that are saying TF2 have played both games. Obviously they're both comparable. I'm going to disregard the major differences in the way they both play out and also disregard all of the things you can do in Reach like firefight, racing, etc that you can't do in TF2 and I will also disregard Reach's competitive scene aka MajorLeagueFail and Arena. TF2 gais (im not super serious btw but its my 2 cents regardless)SparkyProtocol

Obviously the 360 people that voted Reach have all played TF2. There's stuff in TF2 you can't do in Reach. And TF2 also has a competitive scene.

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#223 drspudz
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]Obviously the hermits that are saying TF2 have played both games. Obviously they're both comparable. I'm going to disregard the major differences in the way they both play out and also disregard all of the things you can do in Reach like firefight, racing, etc that you can't do in TF2 and I will also disregard Reach's competitive scene aka MajorLeagueFail and Arena. TF2 gais (im not super serious btw but its my 2 cents regardless)Eggimannd

Obviously the 360 people that voted Reach have all played TF2. There's stuff in TF2 you can't do in Reach. And TF2 also has a competitive scene.

Awww that's cute.

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#225 Avian005
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TF2 for now, Reach might possibly beat it for me in the future.

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#226 tempest91
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too bad there's a 60 USD/yr fee to play Reach.

TF2 is free 4 life! unless ur not playing the superior version obviously.

Nexustras

That's cool, but it's not $60 for you to play on xbox live if you can browse the internet for obvious deals and being free doesn't make a game better, it just makes the MP free.

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#227 jaisimar_chelse
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[QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]Obviously the hermits that are saying TF2 have played both games. Obviously they're both comparable. I'm going to disregard the major differences in the way they both play out and also disregard all of the things you can do in Reach like firefight, racing, etc that you can't do in TF2 and I will also disregard Reach's competitive scene aka MajorLeagueFail and Arena. TF2 gais (im not super serious btw but its my 2 cents regardless)drspudz

Obviously the 360 people that voted Reach have all played TF2. There's stuff in TF2 you can't do in Reach. And TF2 also has a competitive scene.

Awww that's cute.

http://etf2l.org/

(6 divions with a total of 10 team in each div + a highlander ladder)

http://www.esportsea.com/index.php

http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2/

(another euro league)

http://www.cevo.com/?page=event&id=186

(the american tf2 league)

http://iseries.multiplay.co.uk/newsid/5751/

(lan event with over 128 tf2 teams competing for the 4000 euro cash prize)

when was the last time a halo gmae had 128 teams at lan?

you were saying?

tf2 comp scene > halo comp scene

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#228 themagicbum9720
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[QUOTE="drspudz"]

[QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

Obviously the 360 people that voted Reach have all played TF2. There's stuff in TF2 you can't do in Reach. And TF2 also has a competitive scene.

jaisimar_chelse

Awww that's cute.

http://etf2l.org/

(6 divions with a total of 10 team in each div + a highlander ladder)

http://www.esportsea.com/index.php

http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2/

(another euro league)

http://www.cevo.com/?page=event&id=186

(the american tf2 league)

http://iseries.multiplay.co.uk/newsid/5751/

(lan event with over 128 tf2 teams competing for the 4000 euro cash prize)

when was the last time a halo gmae had 128 teams at lan?

you were saying?

tf2 comp scene > halo comp scene

you also forgot xpleague :P but they changed their name recently. the tf2 comp scene is definitely bigger than halo's. i filled in for teams quite a few times and am on a highlander team for etf2l contest thing that valve talked about on their blog.

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#229 deactivated-6079d224de716
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Guys! I think that we have to start a petition to GS staff to re-review TF2.

Three years ago it was not even close to the game it is now.

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#230 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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Guys! I think that we have to start a petition to GS staff to re-review TF2.

Three years ago it was not even close to the game it is now.

Orchid87
I would sign that, if any game deserves a re-visit it is definatly TF2 PC. But how would we even go about starting that?
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#231 albi321
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Wow, not that I expected more from system wars, but most people posting in this thread are horribly biased. Having played both TF2 and the halo series extensively, I can easily say neither is by far superior to the other. The communities can be horrid in both, they both have excellent gameplay and excellent multiplayer.
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#232 Megaman5364
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Valve are useless devs whilst Bungie kick ass, I've only played Reachs MP and Firefight and they both kick the crap outta anything on PC, Wii and PS3 combined.

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#233 spookykid143
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Valve are useless devs whilst Bungie kick ass, I've only played Reachs MP and Firefight and they both kick the crap outta anything on PC, Wii and PS3 combined.

Megaman5364

Sarcasm?

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#234 Megaman5364
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[QUOTE="Megaman5364"]

Valve are useless devs whilst Bungie kick ass, I've only played Reachs MP and Firefight and they both kick the crap outta anything on PC, Wii and PS3 combined.

spookykid143

Sarcasm?

No it's called an opinion *slaps ass and then walks away*
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#235 LegatoSkyheart
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Most of the votes are going to favor TF2 because it's pc fanboys and ps3 fanboys vs 360 fanboys. These people voting for TF2 probably mostly consist of PS3 fanboys who haven't played either game. @Planeforger, what the hell do you mean it's outlasted 2 Halo games?drspudz

That is not correct at all.

Team Fortress 2 is on the 360 as well.

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#236 skrat_01
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At the moment I'd still argue TF2. While it's not as robust in features available to the end user (aside from having an SDK with a plethora of custom game modes), it really is amazingly crafted game, and one of the staple online titles this generation. An example of a game as a service, rather than just mere title, and it has spawned one of the most impressive communities in gaming; the amount of fan material and spinoffs; comics, videos, art; it's all pretty astounding. For a game constantly evolving for 3 years now; Reach seems quite great at the moment, but if it will overtake TF2? We'll see in time.
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#237 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="drspudz"]Most of the votes are going to favor TF2 because it's pc fanboys and ps3 fanboys vs 360 fanboys. These people voting for TF2 probably mostly consist of PS3 fanboys who haven't played either game. @Planeforger, what the hell do you mean it's outlasted 2 Halo games?LegatoSkyheart

That is not correct at all.

Team Fortress 2 is on the 360 as well.

TF2 is no where near as good on the 360.
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#238 skrat_01
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Most of the votes are going to favor TF2 because it's pc fanboys and ps3 fanboys vs 360 fanboys. These people voting for TF2 probably mostly consist of PS3 fanboys who haven't played either game. @Planeforger, what the hell do you mean it's outlasted 2 Halo games?drspudz
and this is exactly the same argument whenever a poll isn't satisfying someone. Perhaps people bitter over the completely unsupported, vastly inferior ports of TF2 on the PS3 and 360 are voting for Reach? With simple speculation anything can be interpreted.
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#239 jaisimar_chelse
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Valve are useless devs whilst Bungie kick ass, I've only played Reachs MP and Firefight and they both kick the crap outta anything on PC, Wii and PS3 combined.

Megaman5364

Ohohoh, That Slaps Me On The knee.

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#240 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="drspudz"]Most of the votes are going to favor TF2 because it's pc fanboys and ps3 fanboys vs 360 fanboys. These people voting for TF2 probably mostly consist of PS3 fanboys who haven't played either game. @Planeforger, what the hell do you mean it's outlasted 2 Halo games?toast_burner

That is not correct at all.

Team Fortress 2 is on the 360 as well.

TF2 is no where near as good on the 360.

Matters not, It's on the 360 so you can't just say that the poll would be unfair.

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#241 Malta_1980
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Need to play more Halo Reach mp first... TF2 is one of my fav mp games, but from the little i played Reach has a solid mp..

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#242 FrozenLiquid
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Halo: Reach is essentially the same Halo multiplayer since the second one. The only real change is that multiplayer has been extended to include co-operative matchmaking as well i.e Firefight and Campaign modes. TF2 is competitive multiplayer only.

I like the Infection multiplayer of Halo MP a lot, but my favourite FPS game is the original Team Fortress and TFC. If only more people played Fortress Forever, I'd still be playing it lol. Not a big fan of TF2, though I can see why people enjoy it.

At the moment I'd still argue TF2. While it's not as robust in features available to the end user (aside from having an SDK with a plethora of custom game modes), it really is amazingly crafted game, and one of the staple online titles this generation. An example of a game as a service, rather than just mere title, and it has spawned one of the most impressive communities in gaming; the amount of fan material and spinoffs; comics, videos, art skrat_01

Did you somehow miss Halo's rabid fandom? :P

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#243 skrat_01
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Did you somehow miss Halo's rabid fandom? :P

FrozenLiquid

Oh hell no! :P

I just seen something like TF2's community in any other shooter in all my time.

Guess the most similar thing to it would be.. WoW?

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#244 dachase
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Halo, its like the Twilight of fps, sure its popular but that doesnt mean its any good

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#245 jg4xchamp
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Guys! I think that we have to start a petition to GS staff to re-review TF2.

Three years ago it was not even close to the game it is now.

Orchid87

**** that. The review is fair game, and it would be poor in theory. It would then imply other games Like say Elemental will get rereviewed when it fixes all the crap. I like that the reviews punish games for not being up to snuff on launch day. I pay good money, those asshat developers should be on point day 1. Besides TF2 does not need reviews to justify its greatness. The countless updates, restructuring, additions to gameplay, and active community more than speak for themselves.

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#246 MrAmolou
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TF2 on PC by far.

However Halo is the pinnacle for multi-player on consoles

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#248 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

Did you somehow miss Halo's rabid fandom? :P

skrat_01

Oh hell no! :P

I just seen something like TF2's community in any other shooter in all my time.

Guess the most similar thing to it would be.. WoW?

I dunno I think Halo's community is way bigger than TF2. Certainly TF2, as a hardcore PC shooter community is unusually massive, but it's unfair on itself to compare it to something as mainstream as Halo.

Not to say the breadth of Halo's popularity and dedication makes it any better. But really, come back to me when you can play TF2 with Linkin Park.:lol:

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#249 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

Did you somehow miss Halo's rabid fandom? :P

FrozenLiquid

Oh hell no! :P

I just seen something like TF2's community in any other shooter in all my time.

Guess the most similar thing to it would be.. WoW?

I dunno I think Halo's community is way bigger than TF2. Certainly TF2, as a hardcore PC shooter community is unusually massive, but it's unfair on itself to compare it to something as mainstream as Halo.

Not to say the breadth of Halo's popularity and dedication makes it any better. But really, come back to me when you can play TF2 with Linkin Park.:lol:

Oh bigger?
Naturally!

But TF2 really is unlike any other shooter out there as far as fanbase goes; which all really boils down the mood and character the game has.
Saxton Hale dares you to disagree :x

But wow that is pretty lol. Still all the hardcore CoD kids these days get to play with Ice-T; though if you weren't rolling with Trent Reznor playing Quake in the 90s then you just weren't L337:P

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[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] Valve did try with the 360 version, they wanted to give them the updates for free, but MS wouldn't allow them.lordreaven

Are you ****ing kidding me? God, I hate Microsoft...

Nope, i'm, not joking. http://www.planetxbox360.com/article_7760/Valve_Microsoft_Forced_Us_to_Charge_for_Left_4_Dead_DLC

I know it says L4D but after this they didn't bother to try.

Cliff from epic complained that he couldn't make Gears maps free, and the dev behind Metro 2033 wanted their last thing to be free.