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[QUOTE="Karnage108"]9.5 > 8.5 haters owned.Locutus_PicardExcept that PC Standards >>>> Console standards... A direct port of Reach would have gotten a shocking 8.0 because it's outdated by PC standards. On consoles, if it has jetpacks and sprint...it's AA guaranteed.
How so?
I've played TF2 for about 150 hours. Its a good game, but I wouldn't say its FAR better than reach. Right now I'm liking reach more. I don't know if that will last or not, seeing how reach came out a week ago. As far as communities go, they both have their ups and downs. On tf2 you get those mic spammers who play 4 chans memes non stop, and on 360 you have the kids. Both can be muted.albi321But that's my favorite server on TF2 ...
TF2 has one of the worst communities in PC gaming.ampivahow so? one of the servers i frequent commonly has political debates. CSS has kids bragging about how pro they are.
[QUOTE="ampiva"]TF2 has one of the worst communities in PC gaming.ferret-gamerhow so? one of the servers i frequent commonly has political debates. CSS has kids bragging about how pro they are. Not as many kids as Cod or Halo on the consoles, but alot of servers on css are pretty bad.
and despite all those reasons more people still play Halo.TF2
-You could have bought it for $7,50 or $10 during Steam Holiday sales
-Keyboard and mouse
-Valve continues to update and add more content
-Make your own mods and maps and play those of others
Reach
-Full-priced at $40-$50
-Analog sticks and controller
Aside from personal preferences. TF2 sets an example for every online shooter.
I don't even like shooters but TF2 does it so well that it appeals to anyone.
Reach...? Meh...it couldn't even hold a candle to TF2.Locutus_Picard
[QUOTE="HaloReachGOTY"]
im saying reach>>>>>tf2 based on facts....Ratings, and number of ppl online.....what do you base your conclusion on?........opinion.
tagyhag
Oh? Where are you getting these "Ratings" from?
It's funny this is mentioned because in the latest PC Powerplay (an Australian mag), they just re-rated TF2 from a 9, which they gave it back in 07, to a 10, as they felt that it's practically a new game. Any rating of HR is unfair as a comparison because pretty much every rating for TF2 is based on the launch version, which has about 20% of the content and features of the game today.and despite all those reasons more people still play Halo. Who cares how many people play it? It's the product of a massive marketing campaign from the worlds biggest company. It's going to sell well, no matter the quality. TF2 has had zero magazine, television adverts and has relied on a building reputation, Steam and word of mouth to make sales. There's kind of a huge difference, and yet, even so, in 10 years lot's of people will still be playing TF2, like lot's of people are still play CS 1.6, unlike HR, which will be dead in a few years.[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"]
TF2
-You could have bought it for $7,50 or $10 during Steam Holiday sales
-Keyboard and mouse
-Valve continues to update and add more content
-Make your own mods and maps and play those of others
Reach
-Full-priced at $40-$50
-Analog sticks and controller
Aside from personal preferences. TF2 sets an example for every online shooter.
I don't even like shooters but TF2 does it so well that it appeals to anyone.
Reach...? Meh...it couldn't even hold a candle to TF2.AiurProtoss
[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="enterawesome"]TF2 is mediocre on the consoles, on PC, it looks a lot better. Still, Valve should have tried way harder on consoles, and for that, I say Reach.enterawesomeValve did try with the 360 version, they wanted to give them the updates for free, but MS wouldn't allow them.Are you ****ing kidding me? God, I hate Microsoft...Nope, i'm, not joking. http://www.planetxbox360.com/article_7760/Valve_Microsoft_Forced_Us_to_Charge_for_Left_4_Dead_DLC
I know it says L4D but after this they didn't bother to try.
Obviously the hermits that are saying TF2 have played both games. Obviously they're both comparable. I'm going to disregard the major differences in the way they both play out and also disregard all of the things you can do in Reach like firefight, racing, etc that you can't do in TF2 and I will also disregard Reach's competitive scene aka MajorLeagueFail and Arena. TF2 gais (im not super serious btw but its my 2 cents regardless)SparkyProtocol
Obviously the 360 people that voted Reach have all played TF2. There's stuff in TF2 you can't do in Reach. And TF2 also has a competitive scene.
[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]Obviously the hermits that are saying TF2 have played both games. Obviously they're both comparable. I'm going to disregard the major differences in the way they both play out and also disregard all of the things you can do in Reach like firefight, racing, etc that you can't do in TF2 and I will also disregard Reach's competitive scene aka MajorLeagueFail and Arena. TF2 gais (im not super serious btw but its my 2 cents regardless)Eggimannd
Obviously the 360 people that voted Reach have all played TF2. There's stuff in TF2 you can't do in Reach. And TF2 also has a competitive scene.
Awww that's cute.
too bad there's a 60 USD/yr fee to play Reach.
TF2 is free 4 life! unless ur not playing the superior version obviously.
Nexustras
That's cool, but it's not $60 for you to play on xbox live if you can browse the internet for obvious deals and being free doesn't make a game better, it just makes the MP free.
[QUOTE="Eggimannd"]
[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]Obviously the hermits that are saying TF2 have played both games. Obviously they're both comparable. I'm going to disregard the major differences in the way they both play out and also disregard all of the things you can do in Reach like firefight, racing, etc that you can't do in TF2 and I will also disregard Reach's competitive scene aka MajorLeagueFail and Arena. TF2 gais (im not super serious btw but its my 2 cents regardless)drspudz
Obviously the 360 people that voted Reach have all played TF2. There's stuff in TF2 you can't do in Reach. And TF2 also has a competitive scene.
Awww that's cute.
http://etf2l.org/
(6 divions with a total of 10 team in each div + a highlander ladder)
http://www.esportsea.com/index.php
http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2/
(another euro league)
http://www.cevo.com/?page=event&id=186
(the american tf2 league)
http://iseries.multiplay.co.uk/newsid/5751/
(lan event with over 128 tf2 teams competing for the 4000 euro cash prize)
when was the last time a halo gmae had 128 teams at lan?
you were saying?
tf2 comp scene > halo comp scene
[QUOTE="drspudz"]
[QUOTE="Eggimannd"]
Obviously the 360 people that voted Reach have all played TF2. There's stuff in TF2 you can't do in Reach. And TF2 also has a competitive scene.
jaisimar_chelse
Awww that's cute.
http://etf2l.org/
(6 divions with a total of 10 team in each div + a highlander ladder)
http://www.esportsea.com/index.php
http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2/
(another euro league)
http://www.cevo.com/?page=event&id=186
(the american tf2 league)
http://iseries.multiplay.co.uk/newsid/5751/
(lan event with over 128 tf2 teams competing for the 4000 euro cash prize)
when was the last time a halo gmae had 128 teams at lan?
you were saying?
tf2 comp scene > halo comp scene
you also forgot xpleague :P but they changed their name recently. the tf2 comp scene is definitely bigger than halo's. i filled in for teams quite a few times and am on a highlander team for etf2l contest thing that valve talked about on their blog.
Guys! I think that we have to start a petition to GS staff to re-review TF2.
Three years ago it was not even close to the game it is now.
I would sign that, if any game deserves a re-visit it is definatly TF2 PC. But how would we even go about starting that?Guys! I think that we have to start a petition to GS staff to re-review TF2.
Three years ago it was not even close to the game it is now.
Orchid87
Valve are useless devs whilst Bungie kick ass, I've only played Reachs MP and Firefight and they both kick the crap outta anything on PC, Wii and PS3 combined.
Sarcasm?Valve are useless devs whilst Bungie kick ass, I've only played Reachs MP and Firefight and they both kick the crap outta anything on PC, Wii and PS3 combined.
Megaman5364
Sarcasm? No it's called an opinion *slaps ass and then walks away*[QUOTE="Megaman5364"]
Valve are useless devs whilst Bungie kick ass, I've only played Reachs MP and Firefight and they both kick the crap outta anything on PC, Wii and PS3 combined.
spookykid143
Most of the votes are going to favor TF2 because it's pc fanboys and ps3 fanboys vs 360 fanboys. These people voting for TF2 probably mostly consist of PS3 fanboys who haven't played either game. @Planeforger, what the hell do you mean it's outlasted 2 Halo games?drspudz
That is not correct at all.
Team Fortress 2 is on the 360 as well.
[QUOTE="drspudz"]Most of the votes are going to favor TF2 because it's pc fanboys and ps3 fanboys vs 360 fanboys. These people voting for TF2 probably mostly consist of PS3 fanboys who haven't played either game. @Planeforger, what the hell do you mean it's outlasted 2 Halo games?LegatoSkyheart
That is not correct at all.
Team Fortress 2 is on the 360 as well.
TF2 is no where near as good on the 360.Most of the votes are going to favor TF2 because it's pc fanboys and ps3 fanboys vs 360 fanboys. These people voting for TF2 probably mostly consist of PS3 fanboys who haven't played either game. @Planeforger, what the hell do you mean it's outlasted 2 Halo games?drspudzand this is exactly the same argument whenever a poll isn't satisfying someone. Perhaps people bitter over the completely unsupported, vastly inferior ports of TF2 on the PS3 and 360 are voting for Reach? With simple speculation anything can be interpreted.
Valve are useless devs whilst Bungie kick ass, I've only played Reachs MP and Firefight and they both kick the crap outta anything on PC, Wii and PS3 combined.
Megaman5364
Ohohoh, That Slaps Me On The knee.
[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"][QUOTE="drspudz"]Most of the votes are going to favor TF2 because it's pc fanboys and ps3 fanboys vs 360 fanboys. These people voting for TF2 probably mostly consist of PS3 fanboys who haven't played either game. @Planeforger, what the hell do you mean it's outlasted 2 Halo games?toast_burner
That is not correct at all.
Team Fortress 2 is on the 360 as well.
TF2 is no where near as good on the 360.Matters not, It's on the 360 so you can't just say that the poll would be unfair.
Need to play more Halo Reach mp first... TF2 is one of my fav mp games, but from the little i played Reach has a solid mp..
Halo: Reach is essentially the same Halo multiplayer since the second one. The only real change is that multiplayer has been extended to include co-operative matchmaking as well i.e Firefight and Campaign modes. TF2 is competitive multiplayer only.
I like the Infection multiplayer of Halo MP a lot, but my favourite FPS game is the original Team Fortress and TFC. If only more people played Fortress Forever, I'd still be playing it lol. Not a big fan of TF2, though I can see why people enjoy it.
At the moment I'd still argue TF2. While it's not as robust in features available to the end user (aside from having an SDK with a plethora of custom game modes), it really is amazingly crafted game, and one of the staple online titles this generation. An example of a game as a service, rather than just mere title, and it has spawned one of the most impressive communities in gaming; the amount of fan material and spinoffs; comics, videos, art skrat_01
Did you somehow miss Halo's rabid fandom? :P
**** that. The review is fair game, and it would be poor in theory. It would then imply other games Like say Elemental will get rereviewed when it fixes all the crap. I like that the reviews punish games for not being up to snuff on launch day. I pay good money, those asshat developers should be on point day 1. Besides TF2 does not need reviews to justify its greatness. The countless updates, restructuring, additions to gameplay, and active community more than speak for themselves.Guys! I think that we have to start a petition to GS staff to re-review TF2.
Three years ago it was not even close to the game it is now.
Orchid87
Oh hell no! :P[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]
Did you somehow miss Halo's rabid fandom? :P
skrat_01
I just seen something like TF2's community in any other shooter in all my time.
Guess the most similar thing to it would be.. WoW?
I dunno I think Halo's community is way bigger than TF2. Certainly TF2, as a hardcore PC shooter community is unusually massive, but it's unfair on itself to compare it to something as mainstream as Halo.
Not to say the breadth of Halo's popularity and dedication makes it any better. But really, come back to me when you can play TF2 with Linkin Park.:lol:
Oh hell no! :P[QUOTE="skrat_01"]
[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]
Did you somehow miss Halo's rabid fandom? :P
FrozenLiquid
I just seen something like TF2's community in any other shooter in all my time.
Guess the most similar thing to it would be.. WoW?
I dunno I think Halo's community is way bigger than TF2. Certainly TF2, as a hardcore PC shooter community is unusually massive, but it's unfair on itself to compare it to something as mainstream as Halo.
Not to say the breadth of Halo's popularity and dedication makes it any better. But really, come back to me when you can play TF2 with Linkin Park.:lol:
Oh bigger?But TF2 really is unlike any other shooter out there as far as fanbase goes; which all really boils down the mood and character the game has.
Saxton Hale dares you to disagree :x
But wow that is pretty lol. Still all the hardcore CoD kids these days get to play with Ice-T; though if you weren't rolling with Trent Reznor playing Quake in the 90s then you just weren't L337:P
Are you ****ing kidding me? God, I hate Microsoft...Nope, i'm, not joking. http://www.planetxbox360.com/article_7760/Valve_Microsoft_Forced_Us_to_Charge_for_Left_4_Dead_DLC[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] Valve did try with the 360 version, they wanted to give them the updates for free, but MS wouldn't allow them.lordreaven
I know it says L4D but after this they didn't bother to try.
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