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#101 rockzo
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Heres a video that proves only the PS3 can produce true 1080p(1920x1080) Interesting video, have a look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MakQpMSKP7Idjsifer01

You consolites are so funny and so misinformed.

Neither 360 nor PS3 is capable of true 1080p, its all rendered at a much much lower resolution then upscaled to 1080p. I thought all you consolites knew already that true 1080p graphics are only avalible on PC.

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#102 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Panosola"][QUOTE="tirralirra"] Ok, lets get this straight. I'm not likeing those sources. I can't find my source (surprise surprise!) but im pretty sure 360 cannot produce true 1080p. Furthermore, the PS3 can, but it hasn't be tried during gameplay yet. I believe the closest we'll get is in GT5 the the menu screens are true 1080p but during gameplay is something like 1080x1600 ??? so close, but not true 1080p, but also not 1080i.tirralirra

That is just your opinion.The fact......99% of the games on 360 are in 1080p and it is real.......AC2.

I can assure thats its upscaled

No game can do true 1080p during gameplay. please remember this.

All people talking about p's and i and 20's and 80's, its just upscaling. what is upscaling exactly...as someone put it earlier in this thread, putting any old image on a higher signal, what does this do? practically nothing in terms of image quality.

When will we get 1080p? we already have it on PC, in fact, PC gamers will often boast that they can play games in a far higher resolution than 1080p ie 1920x1200 hahaha! it looks awesome!

will we ever get true 1080p on consoles? probably next gen.

no offense dude, but you are talking out of your behind, both the xbox 360 and the ps3 have games on them that run in 1080p, secondly the 360 can upscale all of its titles to 1080, the ps3 cannot, this is because the 360 uses hardware upscaling, the ps3 uses software upscaling, here's a link you might actually approve of http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/96388/xbox-360-gets-its-first-taste-of-native-1080p/ http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/community/news/systemupdate.htm try and tell me you don't believe the second link
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#103 TREY_FOR_LI4E
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NOOO!!! Im throwing my 360 into the garbage now...........................

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60% chance it'll end up in there anyway.

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#104 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="Panosola"] lol........just PS3 fanboys opinion.The AC2 on the 360 is real 1080p and total destroy the PS3 version.oblivionboar

"Let's deal with the basic rendering spec. Similar to the first Assassin's Creed, ACII runs at native 720p resolution, with 2x multi-sampling anti-aliasing on Xbox 360 and quincunx edge-smoothing on PS3. The net result is that the PS3 has fewer "jaggies" at the expense of every texture in the game getting an unwelcome blur."

Eurogamer comparison

360 is superior, but not rendered in 1080p.

superioir in what?

Less screen-tearing, and PS3 also has some blurrey textures.

They stated the 360 version has "a number of important advantages", however that the engine has been improved for the PS3 from the jump from AC 1 to AC 2.

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#105 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Heres a video that proves only the PS3 can produce true 1080p(1920x1080) Interesting video, have a look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MakQpMSKP7Irockzo

You consolites are so funny and so misinformed.

Neither 360 nor PS3 is capable of true 1080p, its all rendered at a much much lower resolution then upscaled to 1080p. I thought all you consolites knew already that true 1080p graphics are only avalible on PC.

There are games that are rendered in true 1080p.

Both Wipeout HD and Ridge Racer 7 are rendered at 1080p.

I forget the games on 360, but there are some.

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#106 delta3074
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Heres a video that proves only the PS3 can produce true 1080p(1920x1080) Interesting video, have a look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MakQpMSKP7Irockzo

You consolites are so funny and so misinformed.

Neither 360 nor PS3 is capable of true 1080p, its all rendered at a much much lower resolution then upscaled to 1080p. I thought all you consolites knew already that true 1080p graphics are only avalible on PC.

really? http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/community/news/systemupdate.htm
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Heres a video that proves only the PS3 can produce true 1080p(1920x1080) Interesting video, have a look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MakQpMSKP7Irockzo

You consolites are so funny and so misinformed.

Neither 360 nor PS3 is capable of true 1080p, its all rendered at a much much lower resolution then upscaled to 1080p. I thought all you consolites knew already that true 1080p graphics are only avalible on PC.

Both have a couple native 1080p games. Little simpler games, but they are there.
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[QUOTE="oblivionboar"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

"Let's deal with the basic rendering spec. Similar to the first Assassin's Creed, ACII runs at native 720p resolution, with 2x multi-sampling anti-aliasing on Xbox 360 and quincunx edge-smoothing on PS3. The net result is that the PS3 has fewer "jaggies" at the expense of every texture in the game getting an unwelcome blur."

Eurogamer comparison

360 is superior, but not rendered in 1080p.

lundy86_4

superioir in what?

Less screen-tearing, and PS3 also has some blurrey textures.

They stated the 360 version has "a number of important advantages", however that the engine has been improved for the PS3 from the jump from AC 1 to AC 2.

exclusive graphics? yeah i think i ps3 got this 1
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#109 Panosola
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"] lol........just PS3 fanboys opinion.The AC2 on the 360 is real 1080p and total destroy the PS3 version.lundy86_4

"Let's deal with the basic rendering spec. Similar to the first Assassin's Creed, ACII runs at native 720p resolution, with 2x multi-sampling anti-aliasing on Xbox 360 and quincunx edge-smoothing on PS3. The net result is that the PS3 has fewer "jaggies" at the expense of every texture in the game getting an unwelcome blur."

Eurogamer comparison

360 is superior, but not rendered in 1080p.

IGN AU:Assassin's Creed II AU Review "In terms of engine quality, however, the difference between the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions is literally night and day. Starting with the shocking difference in contrast and colour depth, the Xbox 360 version's high-dynamic range lighting is more intense and casts deeper shadows and renders a darker night. In our direct comparisons between the two games, the PS3 version looks noticeably flatter and more washed out, detracting from the ambience. The PS3 version also suffers from a lower texture resolution, which affects everything from facial details (you can see freckles and pores on the 360, but faces, lips and hair looks almost universally blurry on PS3), to wall and ground textures, leaves and particle and debris effects." XBOX360: "NEC designed eDRAM die includes additional logic (192 parallel pixel processors) for color, alpha compositing, Z/stencil buffering, and anti-aliasing called "Intelligent Memory" (eDRAM), giving developers 4-sample anti-aliasing at very little performance cost. XBOX360 has better graphics with smoother frame rate and this is natural, because it has better graphics card. The graphics doesn't depend much in the power of CPU rather than the power of GPU." The XBOX360 is graphic better than PS3.And all we can see that on Assassin's Creed 2.
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#110 delta3074
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NOOO!!! Im throwing my 360 into the garbage now...........................

TREY_FOR_LI4E

60% chance it'll end up in there anyway.

bull****
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Heres a video that proves only the PS3 can produce true 1080p(1920x1080) Interesting video, have a look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MakQpMSKP7Ilundy86_4

You consolites are so funny and so misinformed.

Neither 360 nor PS3 is capable of true 1080p, its all rendered at a much much lower resolution then upscaled to 1080p. I thought all you consolites knew already that true 1080p graphics are only avalible on PC.

There are games that are rendered in true 1080p.

Both Wipeout HD and Ridge Racer 7 are rendered at 1080p.

I forget the games on 360, but there are some.

LOL milk shot out my nose i laughed so hard at the last 2 posts. Seriously you consolites need to do some research into the "true" capabilities of your favorate console. I think that it would be quiet the rude awakening.

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

"Let's deal with the basic rendering spec. Similar to the first Assassin's Creed, ACII runs at native 720p resolution, with 2x multi-sampling anti-aliasing on Xbox 360 and quincunx edge-smoothing on PS3. The net result is that the PS3 has fewer "jaggies" at the expense of every texture in the game getting an unwelcome blur."

Eurogamer comparison

360 is superior, but not rendered in 1080p.

Panosola

IGN AU:Assassin's Creed II AU Review "In terms of engine quality, however, the difference between the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions is literally night and day. Starting with the shocking difference in contrast and colour depth, the Xbox 360 version's high-dynamic range lighting is more intense and casts deeper shadows and renders a darker night. In our direct comparisons between the two games, the PS3 version looks noticeably flatter and more washed out, detracting from the ambience. The PS3 version also suffers from a lower texture resolution, which affects everything from facial details (you can see freckles and pores on the 360, but faces, lips and hair looks almost universally blurry on PS3), to wall and ground textures, leaves and particle and debris effects." XBOX360: "NEC designed eDRAM die includes additional logic (192 parallel pixel processors) for color, alpha compositing, Z/stencil buffering, and anti-aliasing called "Intelligent Memory" (eDRAM), giving developers 4-sample anti-aliasing at very little performance cost. XBOX360 has better graphics with smoother frame rate and this is natural, because it has better graphics card. The graphics doesn't depend much in the power of CPU rather than the power of GPU." The XBOX360 is graphic better than PS3.And all we can see that on Assassin's Creed 2.

:lol:

I already said it was the superior version.

I was showing you that it doesn't render in 1080p, like you stated.

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[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Heres a video that proves only the PS3 can produce true 1080p(1920x1080) Interesting video, have a look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MakQpMSKP7Irockzo

You consolites are so funny and so misinformed.

Neither 360 nor PS3 is capable of true 1080p, its all rendered at a much much lower resolution then upscaled to 1080p. I thought all you consolites knew already that true 1080p graphics are only avalible on PC.

PC gamers wont play that lowly 1080p format. It 1920x1200 at least! @delta. as i've said, upscaling sucks, do not use upscaling ever! 1. it makes hardly any difference. 2. you'll just be kidding yourself. also, yes, i know some srcade games run in 1080p, but even then, im not entirely sure theyr un at true 1080p during actual gameplay. Some games have 1080p running during say the menu screen, but 1080p is difficult to achieve in a full-length game during gameplay. GT5 will be using a format just below 1080p (not 1080i or 720p) so they can run the game at 60fps. Impressive seeing as it has more cars on the track compared to F3. BUt yeah, the main question is, how many games run true 1080p during GAMEPLAY
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#114 rockzo
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[QUOTE="rockzo"]

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Heres a video that proves only the PS3 can produce true 1080p(1920x1080) Interesting video, have a look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MakQpMSKP7IChutebox

You consolites are so funny and so misinformed.

Neither 360 nor PS3 is capable of true 1080p, its all rendered at a much much lower resolution then upscaled to 1080p. I thought all you consolites knew already that true 1080p graphics are only avalible on PC.

Both have a couple native 1080p games. Little simpler games, but they are there.

Ok Ok. I'm sure Uno and other BS games render at 1080p on the consoles, But I'm talking about "Real" games. Such as your Gears Of War,Halo,Killzone and Uncharted 2 that you consolites always rave as "graphics king"

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#115 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="rockzo"]

You consolites are so funny and so misinformed.

Neither 360 nor PS3 is capable of true 1080p, its all rendered at a much much lower resolution then upscaled to 1080p. I thought all you consolites knew already that true 1080p graphics are only avalible on PC.

rockzo

There are games that are rendered in true 1080p.

Both Wipeout HD and Ridge Racer 7 are rendered at 1080p.

I forget the games on 360, but there are some.

LOL milk shot out my nose i laughed so hard at the last 2 posts. Seriously you consolites need to do some research into the "true" capabilities of your favorate console. I think that it would be quiet the rude awakening.

I'm not a consolite, i'm a PC gamer, first of all.

Link to Ridge Racer 7 being true 1080p.

This is a DigitalFoundry analysis.

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#116 shawty1984
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A lot of people in this thread are talking out of there behind.

Both the Xbox 360 and PS3 can produce native 1080p 1920 x 1080 gameplay.

Both the Xbox 360 and PS3 have very little native 1080p 1920 x 1080 games, with last time I checked the PS3 having slightly more.

The Xbox 360 has hardware upscaling, so all games can be upscaled to 1080p.

The PS3 has software upscaling which is left to developers, the PS3 can upscale to 1080p.

Regardles of which upscales better, all 1080p 1920 x 1080 TV's/Monitors will be upscaling the image to the native resolution of the screen. So the argument is rather moot.

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#117 rockzo
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[QUOTE="rockzo"]

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Heres a video that proves only the PS3 can produce true 1080p(1920x1080) Interesting video, have a look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MakQpMSKP7Itirralirra

You consolites are so funny and so misinformed.

Neither 360 nor PS3 is capable of true 1080p, its all rendered at a much much lower resolution then upscaled to 1080p. I thought all you consolites knew already that true 1080p graphics are only avalible on PC.

PC gamers wont play that lowly 1080p format. It 1920x1200 at least! @delta. as i've said, upscaling sucks, do not use upscaling ever! 1. it makes hardly any difference. 2. you'll just be kidding yourself. also, yes, i know some srcade games run in 1080p, but even then, im not entirely sure theyr un at true 1080p during actual gameplay. Some games have 1080p running during say the menu screen, but 1080p is difficult to achieve in a full-length game during gameplay. GT5 will be using a format just below 1080p (not 1080i or 720p) so they can run the game at 60fps. Impressive seeing as it has more cars on the track compared to F3. BUt yeah, the main question is, how many games run true 1080p during GAMEPLAY

Thats the point. You console gamers don't even play games at 1080p. You play them at like 1168x600 then they strech that image to fit on your 1080p display. Only on PC are their games that render at true 1080p.

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#118 delta3074
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="rockzo"]

You consolites are so funny and so misinformed.

Neither 360 nor PS3 is capable of true 1080p, its all rendered at a much much lower resolution then upscaled to 1080p. I thought all you consolites knew already that true 1080p graphics are only avalible on PC.

rockzo

There are games that are rendered in true 1080p.

Both Wipeout HD and Ridge Racer 7 are rendered at 1080p.

I forget the games on 360, but there are some.

LOL milk shot out my nose i laughed so hard at the last 2 posts. Seriously you consolites need to do some research into the "true" capabilities of your favorate console. I think that it would be quiet the rude awakening.

no you need to stop talking out of your brhind and stop ignoring the links i posted that prove you wrong,MS have added 1080p native support to thr 360, it says so on xbox.com,see http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/community/news/systemupdate.htm
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#119 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="rockzo"]

You consolites are so funny and so misinformed.

Neither 360 nor PS3 is capable of true 1080p, its all rendered at a much much lower resolution then upscaled to 1080p. I thought all you consolites knew already that true 1080p graphics are only avalible on PC.

rockzo

There are games that are rendered in true 1080p.

Both Wipeout HD and Ridge Racer 7 are rendered at 1080p.

I forget the games on 360, but there are some.

LOL milk shot out my nose i laughed so hard at the last 2 posts. Seriously you consolites need to do some research into the "true" capabilities of your favorate console. I think that it would be quiet the rude awakening.

I think you should after you clean up the milk. Consoles are perfectly able to produce simpler games in native 1080p.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rockzo"]

You consolites are so funny and so misinformed.

Neither 360 nor PS3 is capable of true 1080p, its all rendered at a much much lower resolution then upscaled to 1080p. I thought all you consolites knew already that true 1080p graphics are only avalible on PC.

rockzo

Both have a couple native 1080p games. Little simpler games, but they are there.

Ok Ok. I'm sure Uno and other BS games render at 1080p on the consoles, But I'm talking about "Real" games. Such as your Gears Of War,Halo,Killzone and Uncharted 2 that you consolites always rave as "graphics king"

No one is claiming those to be native 1080p (not counting ponsola or whatever his name is) Also like proved in this thread, Ridge Racer and WipeoutHD or native 1080p.
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#121 rockzo
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[QUOTE="rockzo"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

There are games that are rendered in true 1080p.

Both Wipeout HD and Ridge Racer 7 are rendered at 1080p.

I forget the games on 360, but there are some.

lundy86_4

LOL milk shot out my nose i laughed so hard at the last 2 posts. Seriously you consolites need to do some research into the "true" capabilities of your favorate console. I think that it would be quiet the rude awakening.

I'm not a consolite, i'm a PC gamer, first of all.

Link to Ridge Racer 7 being true 1080p.

This is a DigitalFoundry analysis.

That obviously knows little to nothing about hardware. Anyone with any sort of knowledge of Computing hardware will tell you that 512mb of system ram cannot display 1080p ever. It's Impossible to fit textures that large on such a small system cache. Maybe reconsider your sources for information.

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#122 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

"Let's deal with the basic rendering spec. Similar to the first Assassin's Creed, ACII runs at native 720p resolution, with 2x multi-sampling anti-aliasing on Xbox 360 and quincunx edge-smoothing on PS3. The net result is that the PS3 has fewer "jaggies" at the expense of every texture in the game getting an unwelcome blur."

Eurogamer comparison

360 is superior, but not rendered in 1080p.

Panosola

IGN AU:Assassin's Creed II AU Review "In terms of engine quality, however, the difference between the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions is literally night and day. Starting with the shocking difference in contrast and colour depth, the Xbox 360 version's high-dynamic range lighting is more intense and casts deeper shadows and renders a darker night. In our direct comparisons between the two games, the PS3 version looks noticeably flatter and more washed out, detracting from the ambience. The PS3 version also suffers from a lower texture resolution, which affects everything from facial details (you can see freckles and pores on the 360, but faces, lips and hair looks almost universally blurry on PS3), to wall and ground textures, leaves and particle and debris effects." XBOX360: "NEC designed eDRAM die includes additional logic (192 parallel pixel processors) for color, alpha compositing, Z/stencil buffering, and anti-aliasing called "Intelligent Memory" (eDRAM), giving developers 4-sample anti-aliasing at very little performance cost. XBOX360 has better graphics with smoother frame rate and this is natural, because it has better graphics card. The graphics doesn't depend much in the power of CPU rather than the power of GPU." The XBOX360 is graphic better than PS3.And all we can see that on Assassin's Creed 2.



I think any normal sane person would agree that the console with the better graphics is the PS3 (Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, Gran Turismo 5, Uncharted 2). The GPU in the PS3 is helped by the CPU. Hence why games like Uncharted 2 looks as good as they do. The reason multi platform games look better on the Xbox 360 is simply because the developer simply does not have the time nor money to take the PS3 to the limits using the power of the CPU. When done properly, multi platorm games will look the same on both consoles.

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#123 Panosola
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[QUOTE="Panosola"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

There are games that are rendered in true 1080p.

Both Wipeout HD and Ridge Racer 7 are rendered at 1080p.

I forget the games on 360, but there are some.

lundy86_4

LOL milk shot out my nose i laughed so hard at the last 2 posts. Seriously you consolites need to do some research into the "true" capabilities of your favorate console. I think that it would be quiet the rude awakening.

I'm not a consolite, i'm a PC gamer, first of all.

Link to Ridge Racer 7 being true 1080p.

This is a DigitalFoundry analysis.

The Ridge Racer 7 graphics are very poor.I don't see any big different at 1080p.Again at 1080p the game look poor and ugly.
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#124 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="rockzo"]

LOL milk shot out my nose i laughed so hard at the last 2 posts. Seriously you consolites need to do some research into the "true" capabilities of your favorate console. I think that it would be quiet the rude awakening.

rockzo

I'm not a consolite, i'm a PC gamer, first of all.

Link to Ridge Racer 7 being true 1080p.

This is a DigitalFoundry analysis.

That obviously knows little to nothing about hardware. Anyone with any sort of knowledge of Computing hardware will tell you that 512mb of system ram cannot display 1080p ever. It's Impossible to fit textures that large on such a small system cache. Maybe reconsider your sources for information.

Are you saying my DigitalFoundry source is innaccurate?

:lol:

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[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="rockzo"]

You consolites are so funny and so misinformed.

Neither 360 nor PS3 is capable of true 1080p, its all rendered at a much much lower resolution then upscaled to 1080p. I thought all you consolites knew already that true 1080p graphics are only avalible on PC.

rockzo

PC gamers wont play that lowly 1080p format. It 1920x1200 at least! @delta. as i've said, upscaling sucks, do not use upscaling ever! 1. it makes hardly any difference. 2. you'll just be kidding yourself. also, yes, i know some srcade games run in 1080p, but even then, im not entirely sure theyr un at true 1080p during actual gameplay. Some games have 1080p running during say the menu screen, but 1080p is difficult to achieve in a full-length game during gameplay. GT5 will be using a format just below 1080p (not 1080i or 720p) so they can run the game at 60fps. Impressive seeing as it has more cars on the track compared to F3. BUt yeah, the main question is, how many games run true 1080p during GAMEPLAY

Thats the point. You console gamers don't even play games at 1080p. You play them at like 1168x600 then they strech that image to fit on your 1080p display. Only on PC are their games that render at true 1080p.

I hope you're not calling me a consolite, im insulted! Also, like i said already, PC gamers dont play games in that lowly 1080p. again...1920x1200 at least!
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"]

LOL milk shot out my nose i laughed so hard at the last 2 posts. Seriously you consolites need to do some research into the "true" capabilities of your favorate console. I think that it would be quiet the rude awakening.

Panosola

I'm not a consolite, i'm a PC gamer, first of all.

Link to Ridge Racer 7 being true 1080p.

This is a DigitalFoundry analysis.

The Ridge Racer 7 graphics are very poor.I don't see any big different at 1080p.Again at 1080p the game look poor and ugly.

That's besides the point, i'm saying it runs at native 1080p, and it does.

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#127 delta3074
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="rockzo"]

LOL milk shot out my nose i laughed so hard at the last 2 posts. Seriously you consolites need to do some research into the "true" capabilities of your favorate console. I think that it would be quiet the rude awakening.

rockzo

I'm not a consolite, i'm a PC gamer, first of all.

Link to Ridge Racer 7 being true 1080p.

This is a DigitalFoundry analysis.

That obviously knows little to nothing about hardware. Anyone with any sort of knowledge of Computing hardware will tell you that 512mb of system ram cannot display 1080p ever. It's Impossible to fit textures that large on such a small system cache. Maybe reconsider your sources for information.

you have just lost all credibility with that statement dude, digitalfoundry know more about PC and console hardware than you ever will sunshine
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#128 rockzo
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[QUOTE="rockzo"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I'm not a consolite, i'm a PC gamer, first of all.

Link to Ridge Racer 7 being true 1080p.

This is a DigitalFoundry analysis.

lundy86_4

That obviously knows little to nothing about hardware. Anyone with any sort of knowledge of Computing hardware will tell you that 512mb of system ram cannot display 1080p ever. It's Impossible to fit textures that large on such a small system cache. Maybe reconsider your sources for information.

Are you saying my DigitalFoundry source is innaccurate?

:lol:

Ok dude. Go get yourself a PC with 512mb of system ram. Even with a decent processor and GPU. And tell me, Can you set your games to 1080p? Seriously go inside your pc, take out some ram and tell me how many games run at "true" 1080p. Obviously you consolites have no idea what upscaling means...

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#129 AnnoyedDragon
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I don't doubt consoles ability to run 1080p, it's just not very practical.

Being fixed hardware means the higher the resolution the lower the graphics. 1080p eats into a finite amount of resources, resulting in lower overall graphical quality. When a console game is 1080p it had to be built with that in mind, on PC you simply take any game and stick it up to that res, hardware allowing of course.

1080p games are rare on consoles because overall 720p produces better graphics.

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#130 rockzo
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[QUOTE="rockzo"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I'm not a consolite, i'm a PC gamer, first of all.

Link to Ridge Racer 7 being true 1080p.

This is a DigitalFoundry analysis.

delta3074

That obviously knows little to nothing about hardware. Anyone with any sort of knowledge of Computing hardware will tell you that 512mb of system ram cannot display 1080p ever. It's Impossible to fit textures that large on such a small system cache. Maybe reconsider your sources for information.

you have just lost all credibility with that statement dude, digitalfoundry know more about PC and console hardware than you ever will sunshine

LOL sunshine? Are you trying your best to sound like Sawyer from LOST? If you are please stop trying cause it's epic fail.

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#131 Panosola
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[QUOTE="Panosola"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

shawty1984

IGN AU:Assassin's Creed II AU Review "In terms of engine quality, however, the difference between the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions is literally night and day. Starting with the shocking difference in contrast and colour depth, the Xbox 360 version's high-dynamic range lighting is more intense and casts deeper shadows and renders a darker night. In our direct comparisons between the two games, the PS3 version looks noticeably flatter and more washed out, detracting from the ambience. The PS3 version also suffers from a lower texture resolution, which affects everything from facial details (you can see freckles and pores on the 360, but faces, lips and hair looks almost universally blurry on PS3), to wall and ground textures, leaves and particle and debris effects." XBOX360: "NEC designed eDRAM die includes additional logic (192 parallel pixel processors) for color, alpha compositing, Z/stencil buffering, and anti-aliasing called "Intelligent Memory" (eDRAM), giving developers 4-sample anti-aliasing at very little performance cost. XBOX360 has better graphics with smoother frame rate and this is natural, because it has better graphics card. The graphics doesn't depend much in the power of CPU rather than the power of GPU." The XBOX360 is graphic better than PS3.And all we can see that on Assassin's Creed 2.



I think any normal sane person would agree that the console with the better graphics is the PS3 (Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, Gran Turismo 5, Uncharted 2). The GPU in the PS3 is helped by the CPU. Hence why games like Uncharted 2 looks as good as they do. The reason multi platform games look better on the Xbox 360 is simply because the developer simply does not have the time nor money to take the PS3 to the limits using the power of the CPU. When done properly, multi platorm games will look the same on both consoles.

AC2 on 360 in 1080p.....

khjjkhkj

I don't have anything else to say......

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#132 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="rockzo"]

That obviously knows little to nothing about hardware. Anyone with any sort of knowledge of Computing hardware will tell you that 512mb of system ram cannot display 1080p ever. It's Impossible to fit textures that large on such a small system cache. Maybe reconsider your sources for information.

rockzo

Are you saying my DigitalFoundry source is innaccurate?

:lol:

Ok dude. Go get yourself a PC with 512mb of system ram. Even with a decent processor and GPU. And tell me, Can you set your games to 1080p? Seriously go inside your pc, take out some ram and tell me how many games run at "true" 1080p. Obviously you consolites have no idea what upscaling means...

I have a PC with 4gb or RAM, with a dual core and a 4870. I run games at 1920x1200.

I'm not a consolite, i'm primarily a PC gamer.

Consoles can run games at 1080p.

Just face facts would ya?

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#133 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"] IGN AU:Assassin's Creed II AU Review "In terms of engine quality, however, the difference between the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions is literally night and day. Starting with the shocking difference in contrast and colour depth, the Xbox 360 version's high-dynamic range lighting is more intense and casts deeper shadows and renders a darker night. In our direct comparisons between the two games, the PS3 version looks noticeably flatter and more washed out, detracting from the ambience. The PS3 version also suffers from a lower texture resolution, which affects everything from facial details (you can see freckles and pores on the 360, but faces, lips and hair looks almost universally blurry on PS3), to wall and ground textures, leaves and particle and debris effects." XBOX360: "NEC designed eDRAM die includes additional logic (192 parallel pixel processors) for color, alpha compositing, Z/stencil buffering, and anti-aliasing called "Intelligent Memory" (eDRAM), giving developers 4-sample anti-aliasing at very little performance cost. XBOX360 has better graphics with smoother frame rate and this is natural, because it has better graphics card. The graphics doesn't depend much in the power of CPU rather than the power of GPU." The XBOX360 is graphic better than PS3.And all we can see that on Assassin's Creed 2.Panosola



I think any normal sane person would agree that the console with the better graphics is the PS3 (Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, Gran Turismo 5, Uncharted 2). The GPU in the PS3 is helped by the CPU. Hence why games like Uncharted 2 looks as good as they do. The reason multi platform games look better on the Xbox 360 is simply because the developer simply does not have the time nor money to take the PS3 to the limits using the power of the CPU. When done properly, multi platorm games will look the same on both consoles.

AC2 on 360 in 1080p.....

I don't have anything else to say......

It's 720p... I just proved that to you :?

Wow.

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#134 rockzo
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[QUOTE="rockzo"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Are you saying my DigitalFoundry source is innaccurate?

:lol:

lundy86_4

Ok dude. Go get yourself a PC with 512mb of system ram. Even with a decent processor and GPU. And tell me, Can you set your games to 1080p? Seriously go inside your pc, take out some ram and tell me how many games run at "true" 1080p. Obviously you consolites have no idea what upscaling means...

I have a PC with 4gb or RAM, with a dual core and a 4870. I run games at 1920x1200.

I'm not a consolite, i'm primarily a PC gamer.

Consoles can run games at 1080p.

Just face facts would ya?

You consolites can be a real headache,,,

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#135 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="rockzo"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I'm not a consolite, i'm a PC gamer, first of all.

Link to Ridge Racer 7 being true 1080p.

This is a DigitalFoundry analysis.

lundy86_4

That obviously knows little to nothing about hardware. Anyone with any sort of knowledge of Computing hardware will tell you that 512mb of system ram cannot display 1080p ever. It's Impossible to fit textures that large on such a small system cache. Maybe reconsider your sources for information.

Are you saying my DigitalFoundry source is innaccurate?

:lol:

When all else fails...
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#136 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="rockzo"]

Ok dude. Go get yourself a PC with 512mb of system ram. Even with a decent processor and GPU. And tell me, Can you set your games to 1080p? Seriously go inside your pc, take out some ram and tell me how many games run at "true" 1080p. Obviously you consolites have no idea what upscaling means...

rockzo

I have a PC with 4gb or RAM, with a dual core and a 4870. I run games at 1920x1200.

I'm not a consolite, i'm primarily a PC gamer.

Consoles can run games at 1080p.

Just face facts would ya?

You consolites can be a real headache,,,

Oh my word.

Your reading comprehension is attrocious.

DigitalFoundry has a proven track record, and are incredibly knowledgable.

They are right, you have no idea what you are talking about, consoles can display native 1080p.

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#137 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"] IGN AU:Assassin's Creed II AU Review "In terms of engine quality, however, the difference between the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions is literally night and day. Starting with the shocking difference in contrast and colour depth, the Xbox 360 version's high-dynamic range lighting is more intense and casts deeper shadows and renders a darker night. In our direct comparisons between the two games, the PS3 version looks noticeably flatter and more washed out, detracting from the ambience. The PS3 version also suffers from a lower texture resolution, which affects everything from facial details (you can see freckles and pores on the 360, but faces, lips and hair looks almost universally blurry on PS3), to wall and ground textures, leaves and particle and debris effects." XBOX360: "NEC designed eDRAM die includes additional logic (192 parallel pixel processors) for color, alpha compositing, Z/stencil buffering, and anti-aliasing called "Intelligent Memory" (eDRAM), giving developers 4-sample anti-aliasing at very little performance cost. XBOX360 has better graphics with smoother frame rate and this is natural, because it has better graphics card. The graphics doesn't depend much in the power of CPU rather than the power of GPU." The XBOX360 is graphic better than PS3.And all we can see that on Assassin's Creed 2.Panosola



I think any normal sane person would agree that the console with the better graphics is the PS3 (Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, Gran Turismo 5, Uncharted 2). The GPU in the PS3 is helped by the CPU. Hence why games like Uncharted 2 looks as good as they do. The reason multi platform games look better on the Xbox 360 is simply because the developer simply does not have the time nor money to take the PS3 to the limits using the power of the CPU. When done properly, multi platorm games will look the same on both consoles.

AC2 on 360 in 1080p.....

khjjkhkj

I don't have anything else to say......



Like I said, any sane person. Im not going to argue with you over which has the best grpahics, Im not that sad. I was simply stating why multi platform games look worse on the PS3 and its not because the Xbox 360 has better graphic capabilites.

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#138 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="rockzo"]

That obviously knows little to nothing about hardware. Anyone with any sort of knowledge of Computing hardware will tell you that 512mb of system ram cannot display 1080p ever. It's Impossible to fit textures that large on such a small system cache. Maybe reconsider your sources for information.

Chutebox

Are you saying my DigitalFoundry source is innaccurate?

:lol:

When all else fails...

Apparently.

Some people, eh?

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#139 Chutebox
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AC2 on 360 in 1080p.....

I don't have anything else to say......

Panosola

Good, you're wrong. But good.

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#140 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="rockzo"]

That obviously knows little to nothing about hardware. Anyone with any sort of knowledge of Computing hardware will tell you that 512mb of system ram cannot display 1080p ever. It's Impossible to fit textures that large on such a small system cache. Maybe reconsider your sources for information.

rockzo

you have just lost all credibility with that statement dude, digitalfoundry know more about PC and console hardware than you ever will sunshine

LOL sunshine? Are you trying your best to sound like Sawyer from LOST? If you are please stop trying cause it's epic fail.

i don't watch lost dude, it's a common phrase in my country, you just disse digitalfoundry, they are considered (especially on here) one of the most credible sources around, all of the guys there where messing around with PC,s whilst you where still in nappys 'sunshine'
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#141 rockzo
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[QUOTE="rockzo"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I have a PC with 4gb or RAM, with a dual core and a 4870. I run games at 1920x1200.

I'm not a consolite, i'm primarily a PC gamer.

Consoles can run games at 1080p.

Just face facts would ya?

lundy86_4

You consolites can be a real headache,,,

Oh my word.

Your reading comprehension is attrocious.

No I'm Just calling BS that yov've ever played a console game. I hear that your trying to say you play mostly on your PC. But I don't beilive you.

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#142 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="rockzo"]

You consolites can be a real headache,,,

rockzo

Oh my word.

Your reading comprehension is attrocious.

No I'm Just calling BS that yov've ever played a console game. I hear that your trying to say you play mostly on your PC. But I don't beilive you.

Why not? I'm currently playing L4D2 on my PC, The Witcher, Crysis Warhead and STALKER.

Seriously, go somewhere else, you've been proven wrong, and now your personaly attacking me and stating i'm lying?

Really, that's just underhanded.

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#143 tirralirra
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="rockzo"]

That obviously knows little to nothing about hardware. Anyone with any sort of knowledge of Computing hardware will tell you that 512mb of system ram cannot display 1080p ever. It's Impossible to fit textures that large on such a small system cache. Maybe reconsider your sources for information.

rockzo

Are you saying my DigitalFoundry source is innaccurate?

:lol:

Ok dude. Go get yourself a PC with 512mb of system ram. Even with a decent processor and GPU. And tell me, Can you set your games to 1080p? Seriously go inside your pc, take out some ram and tell me how many games run at "true" 1080p. Obviously you consolites have no idea what upscaling means...

Mate, its possible. PCs can run much higher res than 1080p with no problems. 1920x1200 is the standard on PCs now. Panasola! please, stop, its upsclaed!!!! Rockzo, 1080p is not a hard resolution to achieve! Hardcore PC gamers run HD2 now.
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#144 rockzo
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[QUOTE="rockzo"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Oh my word.

Your reading comprehension is attrocious.

lundy86_4

No I'm Just calling BS that yov've ever played a console game. I hear that your trying to say you play mostly on your PC. But I don't beilive you.

Why not? I'm currently playing L4D2 on my PC, The Witcher, Crysis Warhead and STALKER.

Seriously, go somewhere else, you've been proven wrong, and now your personaly attacking me and stating i'm lying?

Really, that's just underhanded.

Since when is calling your bluff a personal attack? You obviously have no clue about anything PC related and your defending the consoles.

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#145 tirralirra
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[QUOTE="rockzo"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Oh my word.

Your reading comprehension is attrocious.

lundy86_4

No I'm Just calling BS that yov've ever played a console game. I hear that your trying to say you play mostly on your PC. But I don't beilive you.

Why not? I'm currently playing L4D2 on my PC, The Witcher, Crysis Warhead and STALKER.

Seriously, go somewhere else, you've been proven wrong, and now your personaly attacking me and stating i'm lying?

Really, that's just underhanded.

haha, the witcher! fail! lol :)
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#146 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="rockzo"]

No I'm Just calling BS that yov've ever played a console game. I hear that your trying to say you play mostly on your PC. But I don't beilive you.

rockzo

Why not? I'm currently playing L4D2 on my PC, The Witcher, Crysis Warhead and STALKER.

Seriously, go somewhere else, you've been proven wrong, and now your personaly attacking me and stating i'm lying?

Really, that's just underhanded.

Since when is calling your bluff a personal attack? You obviously have no clue about anything PC related and your defending the consoles.

You insinuated that I was lying, as you said "No I'm Just calling BS". Honestly please read.

I built my own PC. Do I know nothing?

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#147 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="rockzo"]

No I'm Just calling BS that yov've ever played a console game. I hear that your trying to say you play mostly on your PC. But I don't beilive you.

tirralirra

Why not? I'm currently playing L4D2 on my PC, The Witcher, Crysis Warhead and STALKER.

Seriously, go somewhere else, you've been proven wrong, and now your personaly attacking me and stating i'm lying?

Really, that's just underhanded.

haha, the witcher! fail! lol :)

One of the best RPG's in the last few years IMO.

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#148 rockzo
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[QUOTE="rockzo"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Are you saying my DigitalFoundry source is innaccurate?

:lol:

tirralirra

Ok dude. Go get yourself a PC with 512mb of system ram. Even with a decent processor and GPU. And tell me, Can you set your games to 1080p? Seriously go inside your pc, take out some ram and tell me how many games run at "true" 1080p. Obviously you consolites have no idea what upscaling means...

Mate, its possible. PCs can run much higher res than 1080p with no problems. 1920x1200 is the standard on PCs now. Panasola! please, stop, its upsclaed!!!! Rockzo, 1080p is not a hard resolution to achieve! Hardcore PC gamers run HD2 now.

OMG read my sig. I was defending the PC... Seriously though.

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#149 tirralirra
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I know, yet you know nothing about them seeing as you think 1080p is impressive on PC, when it isn't.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="rockzo"]

No I'm Just calling BS that yov've ever played a console game. I hear that your trying to say you play mostly on your PC. But I don't beilive you.

rockzo

Why not? I'm currently playing L4D2 on my PC, The Witcher, Crysis Warhead and STALKER.

Seriously, go somewhere else, you've been proven wrong, and now your personaly attacking me and stating i'm lying?

Really, that's just underhanded.

Since when is calling your bluff a personal attack? You obviously have no clue about anything PC related and your defending the consoles.

I used to have a p4, only 512mb ram. I ran i think it was 1600x1200 which is sort of equivalent to 1080p considering that is a sqare resolution for the days when wide screen was in its infancy. Im not much upgraded with quad cores, lotts of ram, ok-ish GPU. can run 1920x1200. Could run higher if my monitor and GPU are better. the point is, 1080p on PC is old and nothing special anymore. as is proven already, 1080p is available on consoles now.

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#150 Panosola
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[QUOTE="Panosola"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

I think any normal sane person would agree that the console with the better graphics is the PS3 (Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, Gran Turismo 5, Uncharted 2). The GPU in the PS3 is helped by the CPU. Hence why games like Uncharted 2 looks as good as they do. The reason multi platform games look better on the Xbox 360 is simply because the developer simply does not have the time nor money to take the PS3 to the limits using the power of the CPU. When done properly, multi platorm games will look the same on both consoles.

lundy86_4

AC2 on 360 in 1080p.....

I don't have anything else to say......

It's 720p... I just proved that to you :?

Wow.

Just PS3 fanboys opinions.

I have buy the game on the 360 and the different between 720p and 1080p is big.The game look a lot better in 1080p on my SAMSUNG 46'' LCD TV.