The 360 is the best core gaming experience you will find in a console this gen

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#1 StrongDeadlift
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As an owner of both consoles, and a known cow on here, I have held this in for far too long. As much as cows do not want to own up to it, the Xbox360 is the superior core gaming experience this generation. The 360 is PS3's superior in the gaming industry, and the industry standard. Dont believe me?

-Vastly superior online service. Xbox Live is the industry standard for online gaming.

-Superior controller (the majority of the industry appears to agree with me btw. Numerous developers hate the Dualshock 3 and agree that it is a poorly made controller). The 360 controller is the industry standard. Now cows, I know you are going to say "oh but this is just your opinion"......hmm, I wonder why soo many industry figures share this opinion? Yet, you never hear anyone other than PS3 fanboys saying it the other way around ;)

-Just for system wars, the console sells more. Period. The industry has spoken with its wallet.

-sales dont matter? Well lets look at metacritic scores:

360

AAA (90+) = 36
AA (80-89) = 220
A (70-79) = 314

PS3

AAA (90+) = 30
AA (80-89) = 198
A (70-79) = 214

It looks like the 360 is superior to the PS3 in GAMES as well ;)

-Almost ALL multuplats favor the 360. Even the very few multiplats that favor the PS3 (usually through exclusive content) are still better on the 360 due to the better controller and Xbox live.

-better integration. Does this really need any explaining? It is common knowlege that the 360 has a superior operating system, and is better integrated than the XMB. Cross game chat, party chat, etc....

-it is not plagued with anywhere NEAR as much tiny insignificant bulls*** as the PS3 is.

  • Mandatory Installs: Defend it all you want cows, but at the end of the day, while you talk about how "its only XXXX minutes out of your life" remember that it is ZERO minutes on the 360 ;)
  • The most horrible game patching system I have ever encountered in my life. Game patches are a b**** to download on the PS3. Some taking upwards of 40+ minutes. I made a very long rant post about this problem, and this by itself is one of the most significant things about the PS3 that annoys me. http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28819590/. Again cows, before you cry and complain and defend, remember that the 360 does not NEED any defending, because it is not plagued with ANY of this nonsense to begin with. When I got my 360, I was floored when I put a game in, and the system downloaded and installed the update within FIVE SECONDS, without even leaving the loading screen.

All in all, the PS3 has been an absolute clusterf***, and nothing but a headache for almost every party involved. The 360 is the FIRST priority for almost ALL publishers, developers, multiplats, investors, and gamers as a whole. Tell me PS3 fans, how many people have you seen on your facebook talking about the next Gears of War game? Now, in comparison, how many have you seen talking about Killzone or Resistance? Or hell, even Uncharted? (I love uncharted, im not hating on it).

 

Sony has done everything in its power to keep the PS3 relevant by a mere thread(and they did), and to undo all of the f*** ups they did this gen, but there is no denying that the PS3 is second to the 360 this gen. The Xbox 360 is the Playstation 3's SUPERIOR in the console market this generation by every single posible comparable metric.

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good for you, man, good. for. you.
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#3 Lexter45
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You are not a cow. And it comes down to personal preference, but damn this thread is going to be funny.
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#4 RickTophen
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XBL is too expensive and it only does shooters. :(
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#5 2Chalupas
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C+ essay. Lacking in original arguments. Please see me after class.
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#6 idill23
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For myself it has also. But It's just my opinion. I can see others enjoying the PS3 more.
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#7 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="Lexter45"]You are not a cow. And it comes down to personal preference, but damn this thread is going to be funny.

Correction, I am "no longer" a cow. And yes, Im aware that it comes down to personal preference, im just pointing out that in the eyes of the industry (as well as almost every single involved party), the PS3 is viewed as second to the 360, and it will remain that way for the duration of the generation. I am also aware that every single response to this thread will be nothing but defending and its flaws and inferiorities, and making excuses, but the industry speaks for itself.
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#8 el3m2tigre
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You are lacking when supporting your own arguement.

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#9 AndyAlfredo
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im just pointing out that in the eyes of the industry (as well as almost every single involved party), the PS3 is viewed as second to the 360StrongDeadlift

And why do we care about "The Industry?" I care about what fellow gamers and I think, and that's definitely not that the PS3 is second to the 360.

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#10 StrongDeadlift
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For myself it has also. But It's just my opinion. I can see others enjoying the PS3 more.idill23
I can see others enjoying the PS3 more too. And I enjoy some Sony franchises (Uncharted and Infamous 2) more than the 360's franchises. I have no blind brand loyalty to one corporation, nor do I "hate" another corporation. I am not "picking on" sony. I say things like......the 360 controller is superior, because I think it is superior, and it seems the industry as a whole seems to agree with me for the most part. In fact, I'll even go as far as to say Uncharted 3 and Infamous 2 would be more fun to play using the 360 controller. (especially Uncharted 3). Not to mention if both those games were on Xbox, they would garner larger communities, and they would actually be alot more relevant in the real world than they are. (Im aware that uncharted has a decent communty, but it would be nice if people in the real world actually gave a damn. I wish I could talk about amazing games like Infamous 2 with REAL WORLD PEOPLE, instead of being "that guy" going "hey, have you heard of this game called 'Infamous 2'?"
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#11 deactivated-5f2174cc8f575
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I'm inclined to disagree with you. I don't think it's fair to pay for Xbox Live considering they don't provide dedicated servers. It's pretty obvious that the Xbox 360 pales in comparrison to the PS3 when it comes to exclusive software since Sony has a huge first party. The patching is long, I'll agree with you on that. However, one thing that regularly goes unmentioned is the fact that you can pay with exact cash to get what you want on the PS store provided it's $5 or more. It's also worth pointing out that the Xbox 360 gets outsold by the PS3 in most Countries. In the end, I don't really see your point.

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#12 Weenski
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I love my PS3. To me the 360 and the PS3 are very similar gaming machines. I played ps1 and 2 since launch so I prefer the controller layout. That"s why I bought a PS3. But if you prefer 360, nice one. You go and play it. I"ll stick to my PS3 thanks.
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#13 Mystery_Writer
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valid points man

& this is going to be interesting

*grabs popcorn*

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#14 Blabadon
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Why did you type in white?

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#15 RoOodriGowW
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Don't think so , when online I find both psn and xbl to be the very same , the controllers are the same to me , really , the only real difference I see is the piss poor xbox directional buttons , nothing is as horrid as that , not even close.

Game numbers , is what i always say , I don't see numbers , I see games , many crap games were released on the 360 , some even are considered exclusive , because the ps3 wasn't around , nor the wii for that matter , that's what happens when you release your console an year in advance.

Sales damage control , please cut that crap , ps3 sells more and it's been like that for years , oh wait , lemme guess , you're american.

Last but not least installs and patches DO SUCK on the ps3 , in the 360 it's like they're finished in the blink of an eye , as for MANDATORY installs , well they make up for the multiple discs thing.

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#16 Yangire
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While that I agree the 360 has more "core" games, I do not believe using metacritic scores proves that.

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#17 Gotham-Calls
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this is all opinion. no facts were given to back up opinion. just blatant things no one should even care about. i can't believe i read this.

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#18 incuensuocha
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Hey TC. The 360 may be the best core gaming experience YOU will find in a console, but the PS3 is the best core gaming experience I have found in a console this gen. See how that works?
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#19 Deathtransit
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lol, with the 360's new Kinect direction, pretty soon the 360's "core gamer" will be 10 year old girls.
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XBL is too expensive and it only does shooters. :(RickTophen
if XBL is too expensive you picked the wrong hobby :|
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#21 StrongDeadlift
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this is all opinion. no facts were given to back up opinion. just blatant things no one should even care about. i can't believe i read this.

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It is opinion that the 360 sells more than the PS3? It is opinion that the 360 has MORE AAA, AA, and A rated games on Metacritic and Gamerankings? It is opinion that the 360 has more higher selling games, and that almost EVERY multiplat outsells its PS3 counterpart (sometimes several times over)? it is opinion that almost EVERY multiplat favors the 360? It is opinion that the PS3 is plagued with bulls*** like mandatory installs, and a broken game update system? Is it opinion that the PS3 has nowhere NEAR the community features of Xbox live? Is it opinion that most games on PS3 have a much smaller community than the 360? You must not have read the same thing I read. Maybe you could point out some of the opinions to me ;) (waits for you to NOT do this)
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#22 mmmwksil
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It'd help if the 360's high scoring games varied more. Lack of quality JRPGs is terrible for some gamers, such as myself.

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#23 WilliamRLBaker
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it used to be...no longer microsoft is sadly sitting on their laurels thinkng of next gen instead of concentrating on this gen still.

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#24 sethman410
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Umm this doesn't make sense. They are both equal. People have their own taste in games, so the scores don't matter. And... im a core gamer and I like dualshock more than the 360. Shocking isn't it?
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#25 WilliamRLBaker
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It'd help if the 360's high scoring games varied more. Lack of quality JRPGs is terrible for some gamers, such as myself.

mmmwksil

its been proven the 360 has a higher variety in its high scoring games then the ps3 does or atleast as much variety.

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#27 mems_1224
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It'd help if the 360's high scoring games varied more. Lack of quality JRPGs is terrible for some gamers, such as myself.

mmmwksil
im glad, JRPGs are terrible
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#28 mmmwksil
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its been proven the 360 has a higher variety in its high scoring games then the ps3 does or atleast as much variety.

WilliamRLBaker

That so? I stand corrected.

im glad, JRPGs are terriblemems_1224

Good for you, pal. Because the 360 lacks strong JRPG support, its library doesn't appeal to everyone. Therefore, 360 does not provide the greatest "core" gaming experience on consoles this gen.

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#29 Blabadon
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This almost seems like "I don't like being viewed as a fanboy, I should attack my favorite system!" thread.
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#30 supdotcom
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My updates/downloads download just as fast as it does on my 360.
lol, stop using mandatory installs as an argument, you need to install on 360 to have a smooth gameplay experience and it'll kill your disc in the long run if you don't install.
The only 'community feature' the 360 has over the ps3 is cross-party chat and imo I won't pay 60 dollars a year for that.
Does it matter if ps3 has a smaller community for games? I can get into multiplayer games with little difficulty and that's all that matters.
XBL having a superior online system is opinion.
Superior controller is opinion, it's about preference.
Currently the ps3 is outselling the 360 worldwide.
Reveiws are just professional opinions.
I haven't seen anyone talking about the new gears of war game on my facebook, nor uncharted 3. only battlefield 3 :D
None of these things can decide which console is superior, it's all about the games and I (along with many other people) prefer games on the ps3. It doesn't matter they score, because I don't play sales and scores, I play games.

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#31 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

its been proven the 360 has a higher variety in its high scoring games then the ps3 does or atleast as much variety.

mmmwksil

That so? I stand corrected.

mind you if they keep sitting on their laurels the ps3 will have a higehr variety but...

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#32 dracolich55
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If your using game scores to justify how good games are your basically saying other peoples opinion>your opinion. For example Gears 2 was critically accalaimed, yet it is a horrendous title in the Gears franchise compared the to awesomeness which is gears 3. And yet Infamous 2 was only AA yet most people I know LOVED it.
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#33 Ultrabeatdown55
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None of those things matter. Great exclusives are what keep consoles alive. PS3 wins.

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#34 mceleste11
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I also find my Xbox >>>. PS3

Plus more of my gamers friends perfer Xbox

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#35 WilliamRLBaker
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My updates/downloads download just as fast as it does on my 360.
and for alot of people they dont they are snails pace slow.
lol, stop using mandatory installs as an argument, you need to install on 360 to have a smooth gameplay experience and it'll kill your disc in the long run if you don't install.
Um you dont need to install on the 360 to have a smooth gameplay experience what talking about? and it wont kill your disc if your careful with your discs.
The only 'community feature' the 360 has over the ps3 is cross-party chat and imo I won't pay 60 dollars a year for that.
Cross game chat, cross game invites, intergrated invites and party chat, intergrated status updates...etc
Does it matter if ps3 has a smaller community for games? I can get into multiplayer games with little difficulty and that's all that matters.
XBL having a superior online system is opinion.
Actually its a fact from a preformance standpoint
Superior controller is opinion, it's about preference.
Fact from a preformance and ergonomics standpoint.
Currently the ps3 is outselling the 360 worldwide.
Reveiws are just professional opinions.
I haven't seen anyone talking about the new gears of war game on my facebook, nor uncharted 3. only battlefield 3 :D
None of these things can decide which console is superior, it's all about the games and I (along with many other people) prefer games on the ps3. It doesn't matter they score, because I don't play sales and scores, I play games.
If this was so you wouldn't be here you play sales and scores just as much as every one else or did you not just say currently ps3 is outselling 360 worldwide...

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

its been proven the 360 has a higher variety in its high scoring games then the ps3 does or atleast as much variety.

mmmwksil

That so? I stand corrected.

The PS3 has a consistently higher variety. Lems only get that little snippet of information by going back to the before times a few years ago when MS actually supported a variation of titles in their high rated ones. There were quite a bit back then. But for a long time now the PS3 has dominated in the area in the past few years.

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#37 Bigboi500
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Using critical scores (a casual tool) to say your favorite console is the most "core" console is absurd.

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#38 mmmwksil
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

its been proven the 360 has a higher variety in its high scoring games then the ps3 does or atleast as much variety.

lx_theo

That so? I stand corrected.

The PS3 has a consistently higher variety. Lems only get that little snippet of information by going back to the before times a few years ago when MS actually supported a variation of titles in their high rated ones. There were quite a bit back then. But for a long time now the PS3 has dominated in the area in the past few years.

Well I won't push the issue on either side. In the end it isn't a huge deciding factor, and I'm almost sorry for bringing it up.

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#39 tomarlyn
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Yeah I love my 360 but the PS3's exclusives give it more shazzam.
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#40 T_REX305
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All of this has been said before. Anyways I do admit 360 is a great console but I still prefer the games on PS3.

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#41 Funky_Connor
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I like the PS3 exclusives SO much more than 360 exclusives. PSN is fine the only game I really lag on is CoD. The only reason XBL is superior to PSN is because of parties and cross game chat but PSN is free so whatever. I like the Dualshock 3 more, it better suits my hands. The D Pad is garbage on 360 compared to Dualshock. yeah, 360 might have more better scoring exclusive games than PS3. But most of these are shooters. PS3 there is straight up how variety between games like Uncharted, Heavy Rain, inFamous and LittleBigPlanet.

It seems like a lot of your facts are opinions. It doesn't matter how many people say they prefer the 360 controller to the Dualshock, it is an opinion, and THAT is a fact.

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#42 NeonNinja
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In terms of people's overallperceptions, yeah the 360 is better.

But choosing which console is better is entirely dependent on what games you enjoy. If someone enjoys Sony's line-up the PS3 is better. If someone enjoys MS's line-up the 360 is better. Simple as that. Things like online services, controllers, patches, etc, yeah, they can help or detract from an experience, but really, the whole of the experience is based on one's own preferences.

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#43 Lexter45
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

its been proven the 360 has a higher variety in its high scoring games then the ps3 does or atleast as much variety.

lx_theo

That so? I stand corrected.

The PS3 has a consistently higher variety. Lems only get that little snippet of information by going back to the before times a few years ago when MS actually supported a variation of titles in their high rated ones. There were quite a bit back then. But for a long time now the PS3 has dominated in the area in the past few years.

Kind of like how Cows have to go back a couple years ago to constantly bring up MGS4 Scoring a 10?
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#44 supdotcom
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[QUOTE="supdotcom"]

My updates/downloads download just as fast as it does on my 360.
and for alot of people they dont they are snails pace slow.
lol, stop using mandatory installs as an argument, you need to install on 360 to have a smooth gameplay experience and it'll kill your disc in the long run if you don't install.
Um you dont need to install on the 360 to have a smooth gameplay experience what talking about? and it wont kill your disc if your careful with your discs.
The only 'community feature' the 360 has over the ps3 is cross-party chat and imo I won't pay 60 dollars a year for that.
Cross game chat, cross game invites, intergrated invites and party chat, intergrated status updates...etc
Does it matter if ps3 has a smaller community for games? I can get into multiplayer games with little difficulty and that's all that matters.
XBL having a superior online system is opinion.
Actually its a fact from a preformance standpoint
Superior controller is opinion, it's about preference.
Fact from a preformance and ergonomics standpoint.
Currently the ps3 is outselling the 360 worldwide.
Reveiws are just professional opinions.
I haven't seen anyone talking about the new gears of war game on my facebook, nor uncharted 3. only battlefield 3 :D
None of these things can decide which console is superior, it's all about the games and I (along with many other people) prefer games on the ps3. It doesn't matter they score, because I don't play sales and scores, I play games.
If this was so you wouldn't be here you play sales and scores just as much as every one else or did you not just say currently ps3 is outselling 360 worldwide...

WilliamRLBaker


I don't get what you people mean when its 'snails pace', ps3 is fine
When you don't install a 360 game you get texture pop ins, long loading times and your disc is bound to get slightly damaged
None of those extra community options are worth it except cross party chat, pretty sure integrated invites are up to the developers.
What do you mean from a performance standpoint, I can get into a mp game just as easily on the ps3 as I would on the 360. I can buy things from the psn store just as easily as I would on the 360.
Better controller is still opinion, different people feel different controllers are better, don't try to spin it as fact.
I said that the ps3 is outselling the 360 to correct his argument, I myself don't care for sales and scores.

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#45 Riverwolf007
Member since 2005 • 26023 Posts

360 is still my overall fav but the ps3 has made an amazing comeback from the running joke it was for the first two years.

i would say it is every bit as good as the 360 at this point not counting online integration.

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#46 TheEroica  Moderator
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XBL is too expensive and it only does shooters. :(RickTophen
4 bucks a month and thanks for the chuckle.... next!
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#47 tormentos
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The xbox 360 is the best core gaming experience thanks to is super hardcore only appealing Games like Sesame Street,Kinect sports,Gunslinger... For those 3 games alone i would happily pay $100 for live.
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#48 tormentos
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[QUOTE="RickTophen"]XBL is too expensive and it only does shooters. :(TheEroica
4 bucks a month and thanks for the chuckle.... next!

No is $60 a year MS doesn't allow you to break the cost of XBL into months,if you want a single month of XBL is like $9 dollars,and 3 months is $25.
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#49 Minishdriveby
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I've been in the PS3 groove for the last year and a half or so... I own all 3 consoles though.
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#50 arbitor365
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its funny that you would use metacritic to back up your claims. according to metacritic, here are the exclusive's ratings

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xbox

6 AAA

16 AA

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ps3

10 AAA

31 AA

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yeah..... it doesnt really back up what youre saying