The 360 sort of fails at delivering truly exclusive experiences.

Exclusives only matter in the beginning of the gen to build up support and customer base.

After that it doesn't matter, everybody's playing Skyrim.

ZombieKiller7

I dunno about that. If I didn't already have all the consoles, I would have bought a 360 last year for Gears of War 3, I would have bought a Wii for Skyward Sword, and I would have bought a PS3 for Uncharted 3 alone.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

I've never enjoyed a FPS as much as I enjoy Halo. The only game that came close was the first Crysis.

MS may not have that many exclusives, but with the crazy amount of quality games released these days does it really matter? I know some PS3 only guys are probably shaking in their panties in rage ready to tell me yes, yes it does. I'm here to tell you that my favorite games on my 360 and on my PC are almost always multiplats. On the Wii I prefer Nintendo's first-party fare. On my iPhone I've been playing a mix of exclusives and older ports, so a bit of Chaos Rings and a bit of Final Fantasy III, etc.

There are so many games released all the time right now that you honestly should not give a sh*t what platform you're playing on or if the game is exclusive. There are too many backwards ass cavemen that think in the old ways, but it doesn't matter. No one's going to care if your favorite game is Deus Ex Human Revolution, Skyrim, Halo or Uncharted. Exclusive, multiplat, whatever, there's just so much quality available now as third-party exclusives are disappearing(not the crap finalstar tells people about though) that it really doesn't matter. Choose a game and play it, there's something out there to enjoy for everyone. We're reaching a point where it doesn't matter what you're playing on, but justwhat gameyou're playing. There will always be exclusives, but with the vast majority of titles being third-party we're going to reach a point finally where it's about the game and less about the hardware, as it should have always been.

arkephonic

I agree, but remember, this is System Wars, and topics like this are why this forum exists.

Honestly, I don't even really care in the slightest, but I just thought it would be funny to make another anti-360 thread because I get a kick out of it.

Oh I know. I get a few laughs when a lot of the posters bite onto topics here. Most people are pretty level-headed. It's the fanboys that make this place System Wars in my eyes. I feel like a spectator in their world sometimes when they're comparing graphics and talking about online services and extra content. It's really funny.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Halo Reach is a terrible example, because you can find great first person shooters on every platform.

AcidSoldner

A lengthy campaign with and emphasis on sandbox gameplay mixed with a focused linear progression/story.
A fully customizable survival mode with more modes and variations than any other.
A multiplayer suite with with tons of playlists as well as completely customizable custom games that is still supported heavily a year and a half after release.
Forge 2.0, a fully featured map and gametype editor. Giant sandbox where you can literally create anything.
Theatre mode where you can record, save, upload, and take screenshots from any angle that you damn well please.

And it's all extremely high quality content. Find me a PS3, PC, or Wii game like that.

I looked and I couldn't find man.

Halo is damn awesome

Not arguing that. I hardly think a cover system is innovation, so really I don't give a crap where it was from. Even if a game doesn't have a cover system I freaking take cover by crouching behind a rock or something. Gears gets a ton of credit for the cover system when Rainbow Six Vegas had just as good a cover system and was released a week after Gears of War, so the praise is iffy, the innovation is nonexistent, the quality and influence are undeniable.

NeonNinja

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Halo Reach is a terrible example, because you can find great first person shooters on every platform.

OB-47

A lengthy campaign with and emphasis on sandbox gameplay mixed with a focused linear progression/story.
A fully customizable survival mode with more modes and variations than any other.
A multiplayer suite with with tons of playlists as well as completely customizable custom games that is still supported heavily a year and a half after release.
Forge 2.0, a fully featured map and gametype editor. Giant sandbox where you can literally create anything.
Theatre mode where you can record, save, upload, and take screenshots from any angle that you damn well please.

And it's all extremely high quality content. Find me a PS3, PC, or Wii game like that.

I looked and I couldn't find man.

Halo is damn awesome

Yeah, there is no shooter series that has the wealth of game modes that Halo does, combined with the quality gameplay and polished production values. PC or console, there's nothing. The closest thing is The Orange Box, and that damn thing was a compilation of five games.

I'm not gonna downplay Halo. It isn't like I don't own every single Halo game ever released.

I'm not gonna downplay Halo. It isn't like I don't own every single Halo game ever released.

arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I'm not gonna downplay Halo. It isn't like I don't own every single Halo game ever released.

AcidSoldner

I didn't say 360 didn't have 1 single game that delivered an exclusive experience.

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I'm not gonna downplay Halo. It isn't like I don't own every single Halo game ever released.

arkephonic

I didn't say 360 didn't have 1 single game that delivered an exclusive experience.

Lol, I actually did use Halo in my original post. I'm not gonna lie, I really did feel like Halo was extremely similar to all of the other generic first person shooters I played this generation, that's why I included it.

But, when people bring up forge mode and theater, I guess that is enough to classify Halo in its own little island. I will give the 360 Halo as a unique experience, even though I didn't feel as if it was that much different from everything else after playing every Halo game in the series multiple times.

You haven't played Forza 3/4 I take it.foxhound_fox

Not the 3rd one, but I have played Forza 2 and 4 extensively.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]No one is saying you are, but you're claiming it isn't unique as a 360 exclusive, yet you won't find a game with as much quality content as Halo 3/Reach.arkephonic

I didn't say 360 didn't have 1 single game that delivered an exclusive experience.

Lol, I actually did use Halo in my original post. I'm not gonna lie, I really did feel like Halo was extremely similar to all of the other generic first person shooters I played this generation, that's why I included it.

You haven't played Forza 3/4 I take it.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]Find me a game on the PS3, PC, or Wii that has:

A lengthy campaign with and emphasis on sandbox gameplay mixed with a focused linear progression/story.
A fully customizable survival mode with more modes and variations than any other.
A multiplayer suite with with tons of playlists as well as completely customizable custom games that is still supported heavily a year and a half after release.
Forge 2.0, a fully featured map and gametype editor. Giant sandbox where you can literally create anything.
Theatre mode where you can record, save, upload, and take screenshots from any angle that you damn well please.

And it's all extremely high quality content. Find me a PS3, PC, or Wii game like that.

NeonNinja

I looked and I couldn't find man.

Halo is damn awesome

Yeah, there is no shooter series that has the wealth of game modes that Halo does, combined with the quality gameplay and polished production values. PC or console, there's nothing. The closest thing is The Orange Box, and that damn thing was a compilation of five games.

I just love how Halo has everything and then some.

I mean, so many games have alot, high production values and tonnes of content, but Halo has so much more. It has influential design, a fluid rhythm of gameplay, and all the other things a triple A game should have. Little kids love it because they can play it and have fun, older games love it because it's such a brilliantly designed game. It's an amazing game and deserves to be a phenomenon. I may sound giddy and not very objective, and that's because I love Halo. I've grown up with the series and appreciated it as I matured. It's the damn best game ever.

I have played Forza 4 extensively.arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]I have played Forza 4 extensively.foxhound_fox

I had a ton of fun with Forza, but I think Gran Turismo 5 is great too.

Their market is the gamers that like shooters, racers and now, the Kinect, why would they encourage the development of jRPG games or platformer if it doesn't cater to their main audience? I mean, sure, it'd make great SW brag material, but the larger portion of the 360 owners want shooters and racers -- and Microsoft does have very good exclusives in those genres.

I had a ton of fun with Forza, but I think Gran Turismo 5 is great too.arkephonic

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]I have played Forza 4 extensively.arkephonic

I had a ton of fun with Forza, but I think Gran Turismo 5 is great too.

fox is just saying how it's another exclusive experience. It's wondourful in terms of accessbility and simulation and a whole lotta fun. Also one of the best online experience in a racer.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]I had a ton of fun with Forza, but I think Gran Turismo 5 is great too.foxhound_fox

Are you saying Gran Turismo 5 isn't a good racing sim?

Their market is the gamers that like shooters, racers and now, the Kinect, why would they encourage the development of jRPG games or platformer if it doesn't cater to their main audience? I mean, sure, it'd make great SW brag material, but the larger portion of the 360 owners want shooters and racers -- and Microsoft does have very good exclusives in those genres.

iHarlequin

Let's be honest here, is ANYONE encouraging the development of JRPGs? Nintendo has three of them and they didn't want to release them in the US. I do give MS credit though, man. They at least had an interest in the genre this gen with Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon and even initially funding for Infinite Undiscovery. But the damn games don't sell if they aren't called Final Fantasy.

You're right, that's all it is, SW bragging rights. But at the end of the day, money talks and MS' making plenty of it with only a handful of exclusives.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]I had a ton of fun with Forza, but I think Gran Turismo 5 is great too.foxhound_fox

I'm talking about games that don't have an answer.

Gran Turismo 5 could be considered an alternative to Forza 4.

What would your alternative be to Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavy Rain or Skyward Sword?

And lets not forget how Gears has influenced games more than any other game this gen. Revolutionized and popularized cover systems: After Gears of War nearly every 3rd person shooter since has emulated this mechanic. Standardized survival mode: After Gears of War 2 nearly every single shooter has implemented some short of survival/horde mode; even pouring over to other genres like RTS.AcidSoldner

This is more of a RE4 influence tbh.

I'm talking about games that don't have an answer.

Gran Turismo 5 could be considered an alternative to Forza 4.

What would your alternative be to Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavy Rain or Skyward Sword?

arkephonic

Splinter Cell, Alan Wake and I'm not sure what Skyward Sword plays like.

The worst part, not only does it have the least exclusives, but it also happens to have the worst version of most multiplats.

Thats a bad combo.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I'm talking about games that don't have an answer.

Gran Turismo 5 could be considered an alternative to Forza 4.

What would your alternative be to Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavy Rain or Skyward Sword?

ZombieKiller7

Splinter Cell, Alan Wake and I'm not sure what Skyward Sword plays like.

Apparently you don't know what MGS4 or Heavy Rain play like either.

Splinter Cell Conviction and Alan Wake?

I'm talking about games that don't have an answer.

Gran Turismo 5 could be considered an alternative to Forza 4.

What would your alternative be to Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavy Rain or Skyward Sword?

arkephonic

Good games?

The worst part, not only does it have the least exclusives, but it also happens to have the worst version of most multiplats.

Thats a bad combo.

Jankarcop

I think you have your consoles mixed up.

Are you saying Gran Turismo 5 isn't a good racing sim?arkephonic

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]And lets not forget how Gears has influenced games more than any other game this gen. Revolutionized and popularized cover systems: After Gears of War nearly every 3rd person shooter since has emulated this mechanic. Standardized survival mode: After Gears of War 2 nearly every single shooter has implemented some short of survival/horde mode; even pouring over to other genres like RTS.ActicEdge

This is more of a RE4 influence tbh.

Since you have SMG in your sig, I figure you like the game.

What would an alternative on another platform be to Super Mario Galaxy?

How can you get an experience like SMG without a Wii?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]Are you saying Gran Turismo 5 isn't a good racing sim?foxhound_fox

So this is based on your standards, and not objective ones.

Gotcha :P

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

The worst part, not only does it have the least exclusives, but it also happens to have the worst version of most multiplats.

Thats a bad combo.

ZombieKiller7

I think you have your consoles mixed up.

Problem.

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]And lets not forget how Gears has influenced games more than any other game this gen. Revolutionized and popularized cover systems: After Gears of War nearly every 3rd person shooter since has emulated this mechanic. Standardized survival mode: After Gears of War 2 nearly every single shooter has implemented some short of survival/horde mode; even pouring over to other genres like RTS.ActicEdge

This is more of a RE4 influence tbh.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]And lets not forget how Gears has influenced games more than any other game this gen. Revolutionized and popularized cover systems: After Gears of War nearly every 3rd person shooter since has emulated this mechanic. Standardized survival mode: After Gears of War 2 nearly every single shooter has implemented some short of survival/horde mode; even pouring over to other genres like RTS.arkephonic

This is more of a RE4 influence tbh.

Since you have SMG in your sig, I figure you like the game.

What would an alternative on another platform be to Super Mario Galaxy?

How can you get an experience like SMG without a Wii?

Tbh, you really can't. Its pretty much the system defining series (1 & 2) in terms of quality. every system has those games though, a lot of those games are on Arcade like Toy Soldiers and Shadow Complex for the 360 though. Then there is like gears and halo and Forza and Banjo. Does the 360 have to least unique experiences? Sure. But if that was all that matters the DS and Wii and PC would have won this contest a long time ago. (tbh, they kind of already did)

[QUOTE="iHarlequin"]

Their market is the gamers that like shooters, racers and now, the Kinect, why would they encourage the development of jRPG games or platformer if it doesn't cater to their main audience? I mean, sure, it'd make great SW brag material, but the larger portion of the 360 owners want shooters and racers -- and Microsoft does have very good exclusives in those genres.

NeonNinja

Let's be honest here, is ANYONE encouraging the development of JRPGs? Nintendo has three of them and they didn't want to release them in the US. I do give MS credit though, man. They at least had an interest in the genre this gen with Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon and even initially funding for Infinite Undiscovery. But the damn games don't sell if they aren't called Final Fantasy.

You're right, that's all it is, SW bragging rights. But at the end of the day, money talks and MS' making plenty of it with only a handful of exclusives.

To be fair, Nintendo has released two quality jRPGs in the last six months and has another one up and coming that I'm betting will be good as well. Sony has Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea, Demon's Souls and those that are only released in Japan (Arto series). Microsoft had Lost Odyssey, which I wasn't particularly fond of (combat system specially) and Infinite Undiscovery, which I bought with my console and, although I liked it, it's pretty bland and does nothing particularly well or different. And what you said is correct: neither LO or IU had massive sales; in fact, they were minimal when compared to any of their exclusives in the racing/shooting categories.

Microsoft caters to it's audience, as does Nintendo and Sony. Well, all three try their best, anyway. There's absolutely no good reason for MS to start developing games in some niche genre that only a handful of gamers (Lost Odyssey sold relatively well, at roughly 700k, but it's still far behind the 5m - 10m sale figures that Microsoft's shooter/racer franchises have achieved). It's time to face it: you make exclusives that cater to the masses, and let third party developers grab what they can from all consoles in the smaller genres.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]And lets not forget how Gears has influenced games more than any other game this gen. Revolutionized and popularized cover systems: After Gears of War nearly every 3rd person shooter since has emulated this mechanic. Standardized survival mode: After Gears of War 2 nearly every single shooter has implemented some short of survival/horde mode; even pouring over to other genres like RTS.AcidSoldner

This is more of a RE4 influence tbh.

Makes sense since that's pretty much all GeoW is except really inferior to RE4 imo. RE4 doesn't get the credit it deserves, the horde shiit is all mercenaries mode variations, Capcom killed it with that game.

Anyway, when genre defining experiences like RE4 can be played on every friggin system, who needs exclusives. I own 4 exclusive PS3 games, 1 was a gift and 3 are uncharted. Exclusives are great but they aren't that important since most PS3 and 360 games have so much overlap. If you want unique experiences get a PSP, a DS, a Wii or a PC.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

This is more of a RE4 influence tbh.

ActicEdge

Since you have SMG in your sig, I figure you like the game.

What would an alternative on another platform be to Super Mario Galaxy?

How can you get an experience like SMG without a Wii?

Tbh, you really can't. Its pretty much the system defining series (1 & 2) in terms of quality. every system has those games though, a lot of those games are on Arcade like Toy Soldiers and Shadow Complex for the 360 though. Then there is like gears and halo and Forza and Banjo. Does the 360 have to least unique experiences? Sure. But if that was all that matters the DS and Wii and PC would have won this contest a long time ago. (tbh, they kind of already did)

Lol, yeah, the PC won it a long time ago, and the Wii has a ton of games with experiences you can't get anywhere else.

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

This is more of a RE4 influence tbh.

ActicEdge

Makes sense since that's pretty much all GeoW is except really inferior to RE4 imo. RE4 doesn't get the credit it deserves, the horde shiit is all mercenaries mode variations, Capcom killed it with that game.

Anyway, when genre defining experiences like RE4 can be played on every friggin system, who needs exclusives. I own 4 exclusive PS3 games, 1 was a gift and 3 are uncharted. Exclusives are great but they aren't that important since most PS3 and 360 games have so much overlap. If you want unique experiences get a PSP, a DS, a Wii or a PC.

Just because you don't own the PS3 exclusives that offer unique experiences doesn't mean they don't exist.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="iHarlequin"]

Their market is the gamers that like shooters, racers and now, the Kinect, why would they encourage the development of jRPG games or platformer if it doesn't cater to their main audience? I mean, sure, it'd make great SW brag material, but the larger portion of the 360 owners want shooters and racers -- and Microsoft does have very good exclusives in those genres.

iHarlequin

Let's be honest here, is ANYONE encouraging the development of JRPGs? Nintendo has three of them and they didn't want to release them in the US. I do give MS credit though, man. They at least had an interest in the genre this gen with Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon and even initially funding for Infinite Undiscovery. But the damn games don't sell if they aren't called Final Fantasy.

You're right, that's all it is, SW bragging rights. But at the end of the day, money talks and MS' making plenty of it with only a handful of exclusives.

To be fair, Nintendo has released two quality jRPGs in the last six months and has another one up and coming that I'm betting will be good as well. Sony has Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea, Demon's Souls and those that are only released in Japan (Arto series). Microsoft had Lost Odyssey, which I wasn't particularly fond of (combat system specially) and Infinite Undiscovery, which I bought with my console and, although I liked it, it's pretty bland and does nothing particularly well or different. And what you said is correct: neither LO or IU had massive sales; in fact, they were minimal when compared to any of their exclusives in the racing/shooting categories.

Microsoft caters to it's audience, as does Nintendo and Sony. Well, all three try their best, anyway. There's absolutely no good reason for MS to start developing games in some niche genre that only a handful of gamers (Lost Odyssey sold relatively well, at roughly 700k, but it's still far behind the 5m - 10m sale figures that Microsoft's shooter/racer franchises have achieved). It's time to face it: you make exclusives that cater to the masses, and let third party developers grab what they can from all consoles in the smaller genres.

I see what you're saying.

The way I see it, pretend like you're signing up for a music service like iTunes. You can sign up for iTunes that offers lots of different music, or you can sign up for MusicMediaSongs (I made that up) that only offers music from the top 10 billboards. Which would you choose? I would choose iTunes for the variety, because what I listen to isn't found on the top 10 billboards.

Most xbox360 games are either better on PC or PS3.

It has the least exclusives.

Problem.

Jankarcop

Well yeah the first problem is that nothing is good on consoles to begin with according to you.

So suddenly you think there's a difference in console multiplats?

That's kind of shocking.

And let's get something straight, everything is better on PC if you have the patience to troubleshoot problems.

In my experience %90 of multiplats are better on 360 (than PS3.)

Not much better. A tiny bit better.

To offset that, PS3 has better exclusives and more diversity.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]Actually, the original pitch document for Gears before it was even called Gears was "Resident Kill Switch" lolarkephonic

Makes sense since that's pretty much all GeoW is except really inferior to RE4 imo. RE4 doesn't get the credit it deserves, the horde shiit is all mercenaries mode variations, Capcom killed it with that game.

Anyway, when genre defining experiences like RE4 can be played on every friggin system, who needs exclusives. I own 4 exclusive PS3 games, 1 was a gift and 3 are uncharted. Exclusives are great but they aren't that important since most PS3 and 360 games have so much overlap. If you want unique experiences get a PSP, a DS, a Wii or a PC.

Just because you don't own the PS3 exclusives that offer unique experiences doesn't mean they don't exist.

Never said they don't but how many are there? Flower, Twisted Metal, LBP1&2 (and I honestly don't even consider this an experience worth anything but for the sake of the argument. . .), Journey and? and? that's pretty much it. Everything else has overlap. I don't think the PS3 has its Trauma centres, its to the moons, or its The World Ends With You in the vast quantity people want to say it does. I think it has a lot of experiences that are great but not unique and are made out to be so. I mean, I can probably go through the DS and PC list and find 50 eclusive games that have little overlap and scored a least 7s. PS3 and 360? Problems with even 10.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

Most xbox360 games are either better on PC or PS3.

It has the least exclusives.

Problem.

ZombieKiller7

Well yeah the first problem is that nothing is good on consoles to begin with according to you.

So suddenly you think there's a difference in console multiplats?

That's kind of shocking.

And let's get something straight, everything is better on PC if you have the patience to troubleshoot problems.

In my experience %90 of multiplats are better on 360 (than PS3.)

Not much better. A tiny bit better.

To offset that, PS3 has better exclusives and more diversity.

It's honestly dumb to argue performance and graphics between PS3 and 360 multi-plats. Leave comparisons to consoles vs PC. Any negligible differences in graphics and performance between multi-plats on PS3 and 360 are negated by the fact that many multi-plats come with additional content on the PS3 counterparts.

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

Most xbox360 games are either better on PC or PS3.

It has the least exclusives.

Problem.

arkephonic

Well yeah the first problem is that nothing is good on consoles to begin with according to you.

So suddenly you think there's a difference in console multiplats?

That's kind of shocking.

And let's get something straight, everything is better on PC if you have the patience to troubleshoot problems.

In my experience %90 of multiplats are better on 360 (than PS3.)

Not much better. A tiny bit better.

To offset that, PS3 has better exclusives and more diversity.

It's honestly dumb to argue performance and graphics between PS3 and 360 multi-plats. Leave comparisons to consoles vs PC. Any negligible differences in graphics and performance between multi-plats on PS3 and 360 are negated by the fact that many multi-plats come with additional content on the PS3 counterparts.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Makes sense since that's pretty much all GeoW is except really inferior to RE4 imo. RE4 doesn't get the credit it deserves, the horde shiit is all mercenaries mode variations, Capcom killed it with that game.

Anyway, when genre defining experiences like RE4 can be played on every friggin system, who needs exclusives. I own 4 exclusive PS3 games, 1 was a gift and 3 are uncharted. Exclusives are great but they aren't that important since most PS3 and 360 games have so much overlap. If you want unique experiences get a PSP, a DS, a Wii or a PC.

ActicEdge

Just because you don't own the PS3 exclusives that offer unique experiences doesn't mean they don't exist.

Never said they don't but how many are there? Flower, Twisted Metal, LBP1&2 (and I honestly don't even consider this an experience worth anything but for the sake of the argument. . .), Journey and? and? that's pretty much it. Everything else has overlap. I don't think the PS3 has its Trauma centres, its to the moons, or its The World Ends With You. I think it has a lot of experiences that are great but not unique and are made out to be so.

Flower, Twisted Metal, LBP1&2, Journey, MGS4, God of War III is not experienced by playing Bayonetta not even close, Heavy Rain, you could throw in MLB The Show considering there isn't another decent baseball game out there, and ask anyone who has beaten Demon's Souls and Dark Souls how different the games are.

At the end of the day no game is like any other game.

But for system wars purposes we have to do the "Ok Heavy Rain is equivalent of Alan Wake in worth" kinda thing.

They're not the same game, they're just worth about the same.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Well yeah the first problem is that nothing is good on consoles to begin with according to you.

So suddenly you think there's a difference in console multiplats?

That's kind of shocking.

And let's get something straight, everything is better on PC if you have the patience to troubleshoot problems.

In my experience %90 of multiplats are better on 360 (than PS3.)

Not much better. A tiny bit better.

To offset that, PS3 has better exclusives and more diversity.

KC_Hokie

It's honestly dumb to argue performance and graphics between PS3 and 360 multi-plats. Leave comparisons to consoles vs PC. Any negligible differences in graphics and performance between multi-plats on PS3 and 360 are negated by the fact that many multi-plats come with additional content on the PS3 counterparts.

And I own both and buy the PS3 versions because of the extra content, you can call that dumb all you want but I vote with my wallet.