The 360 sort of fails at delivering truly exclusive experiences.

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#101 zekere
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I absolutely agree with this thread. I have a PC, a Wii, a 3DS and a PS3. Give me ONE reason to buy an xbox360? Indeed, there is none. I love the PS3 exclusives, and those guys talking about Halo? The first game was incredible, fantastic and gets a top spot in my favorites (I loved the original xbox) but the others were generic, storyless boring games. Same with Gears. First game was incredible, the others were more of the same, and it stops working after 2 games. PS3 has the same issues with games like Resistance and Uncharted, but they stop after 2 or 3 games and new IP's appear. Not on the 360, ANOTHER Halo, ANOTHER gears, ANOTHER Forza, ...but nothing else. Yes, maybe some arcade games. But PS3 has also fantastic exclusive arcade games.

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#102 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

It's honestly dumb to argue performance and graphics between PS3 and 360 multi-plats. Leave comparisons to consoles vs PC. Any negligible differences in graphics and performance between multi-plats on PS3 and 360 are negated by the fact that many multi-plats come with additional content on the PS3 counterparts.

arkephonic

I own both a PS3 and Xbox 360 and buy the vast majority of multiplatforms for the Xbox 360 due to performance and/or graphical edge. You can call that 'dumb' if you want but I vote with my wallet.

And I own both and buy the PS3 versions because of the extra content, you can call that dumb all you want but I vote with my wallet.

You're entitled to your 'extra content'. I should point out the PS3 and Xbox 360 are neck and neck in terms of worldwide sales and yet the vast majority of multiplatforms sell better on the Xbox 360. So a lot of gamers are 'dumb' I suppose.
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Other than Kratos in Mortal Kombat I don't remember much extra content.

Civ Revolution has extra content on PS3.

Portal 2 I think.

That's about it.

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#104 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Just because you don't own the PS3 exclusives that offer unique experiences doesn't mean they don't exist.

arkephonic

Never said they don't but how many are there? Flower, Twisted Metal, LBP1&2 (and I honestly don't even consider this an experience worth anything but for the sake of the argument. . .), Journey and? and? that's pretty much it. Everything else has overlap. I don't think the PS3 has its Trauma centres, its to the moons, or its The World Ends With You. I think it has a lot of experiences that are great but not unique and are made out to be so.

Flower, Twisted Metal, LBP1&2, Journey, MGS4, God of War III is not experienced by playing Bayonetta not even close, Heavy Rain, you could throw in MLB The Show considering there isn't another decent baseball game out there, and ask anyone who has beaten Demon's Souls and Dark Souls how different the games are.

GoW is a hack and slash with games in the genre like bayonetta and ninja gaiden that have deeper combat and are arguably better. GoW is great, its nothing unique in a way that basically seperates game 1 in genre A from game 2 in genre A. MLB the show is baseball. Other baseball games exist. Dark Souls is multiplat and basically similar to demon souls.

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#105 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="iHarlequin"]

Their market is the gamers that like shooters, racers and now, the Kinect, why would they encourage the development of jRPG games or platformer if it doesn't cater to their main audience? I mean, sure, it'd make great SW brag material, but the larger portion of the 360 owners want shooters and racers -- and Microsoft does have very good exclusives in those genres.

iHarlequin

Let's be honest here, is ANYONE encouraging the development of JRPGs? Nintendo has three of them and they didn't want to release them in the US. I do give MS credit though, man. They at least had an interest in the genre this gen with Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon and even initially funding for Infinite Undiscovery. But the damn games don't sell if they aren't called Final Fantasy.

You're right, that's all it is, SW bragging rights. But at the end of the day, money talks and MS' making plenty of it with only a handful of exclusives.

To be fair, Nintendo has released two quality jRPGs in the last six months and has another one up and coming that I'm betting will be good as well. Sony has Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea, Demon's Souls and those that are only released in Japan (Arto series). Microsoft had Lost Odyssey, which I wasn't particularly fond of (combat system specially) and Infinite Undiscovery, which I bought with my console and, although I liked it, it's pretty bland and does nothing particularly well or different. And what you said is correct: neither LO or IU had massive sales; in fact, they were minimal when compared to any of their exclusives in the racing/shooting categories.

Microsoft caters to it's audience, as does Nintendo and Sony. Well, all three try their best, anyway. There's absolutely no good reason for MS to start developing games in some niche genre that only a handful of gamers (Lost Odyssey sold relatively well, at roughly 700k, but it's still far behind the 5m - 10m sale figures that Microsoft's shooter/racer franchises have achieved). It's time to face it: you make exclusives that cater to the masses, and let third party developers grab what they can from all consoles in the smaller genres.

I'm not downplaying Nintendo's quality JRPGs. I'm buying both when they release here. But Nintendo did not see a market for them here. Xenoblade Chronicles will be sold exclusively through GameStop. The Last Story isn't even being published by Nintendo in the US, it's by XSEED. There's little faith in the games selling well by them, similar to how Sony had little faith in Demon's Souls, letting Aksys publish it and From Software straight up disassociating with them and creating a "new IP" called Dark Souls (by law names aren't copyrighted, so they could make it seem like a sequel while pretending like it had nothing to do with Demon's Souls to begin with to stay out of trouble with Sony.

Even Valkyria Chronicles, a Segagame, went from a fan favorite on PS3 to sequels on the PSP. I don't blame the publishers for trying their best to cater to their audiences. Some genres just sell better. It really isn't their fault that people want to buy shooters and racing games, but that's exactly what they'll publish since that's what people want. This is the main reason why I enjoy third party games more. Often they're catered to my tastes moreso than a game like Uncharted or Gears of War would be. Even Nintendo want to publish what sells (Mario, Zelda and Mii's). It's a business so I don't blame them. But every now and again a first party game does come along that looks spectacular like The Last Story (I'm a wee bit of a Sakaguchi fan) and it's always a nice treat.

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#106 arkephonic
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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I own both a PS3 and Xbox 360 and buy the vast majority of multiplatforms for the Xbox 360 due to performance and/or graphical edge. You can call that 'dumb' if you want but I vote with my wallet. KC_Hokie

And I own both and buy the PS3 versions because of the extra content, you can call that dumb all you want but I vote with my wallet.

You're entitled to your 'extra content'. I should point out the PS3 and Xbox 360 are neck and neck in terms of worldwide sales and yet the vast majority of multiplatforms sell better on the Xbox 360. So a lot of gamers are 'dumb' I suppose.

Hokie, you derail every thread you enter. Don't turn this into a stupid PS3 vs 360 multiplatform debate. You are such a horrible poster. Go away.

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#107 KC_Hokie
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Other than Kratos in Mortal Kombat I don't remember much extra content.

Civ Revolution has extra content on PS3.

Portal 2 I think.

That's about it.

ZombieKiller7
The 'extra content' argument is one of the weakest I've heard in a long time. I agree with you. Most of the 'extra content' is crap anyways.
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#108 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="iHarlequin"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Let's be honest here, is ANYONE encouraging the development of JRPGs? Nintendo has three of them and they didn't want to release them in the US. I do give MS credit though, man. They at least had an interest in the genre this gen with Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon and even initially funding for Infinite Undiscovery. But the damn games don't sell if they aren't called Final Fantasy.

You're right, that's all it is, SW bragging rights. But at the end of the day, money talks and MS' making plenty of it with only a handful of exclusives.

arkephonic

To be fair, Nintendo has released two quality jRPGs in the last six months and has another one up and coming that I'm betting will be good as well. Sony has Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea, Demon's Souls and those that are only released in Japan (Arto series). Microsoft had Lost Odyssey, which I wasn't particularly fond of (combat system specially) and Infinite Undiscovery, which I bought with my console and, although I liked it, it's pretty bland and does nothing particularly well or different. And what you said is correct: neither LO or IU had massive sales; in fact, they were minimal when compared to any of their exclusives in the racing/shooting categories.

Microsoft caters to it's audience, as does Nintendo and Sony. Well, all three try their best, anyway. There's absolutely no good reason for MS to start developing games in some niche genre that only a handful of gamers (Lost Odyssey sold relatively well, at roughly 700k, but it's still far behind the 5m - 10m sale figures that Microsoft's shooter/racer franchises have achieved). It's time to face it: you make exclusives that cater to the masses, and let third party developers grab what they can from all consoles in the smaller genres.

I see what you're saying.

The way I see it, pretend like you're signing up for a music service like iTunes. You can sign up for iTunes that offers lots of different music, or you can sign up for MusicMediaSongs (I made that up) that only offers music from the top 10 billboards. Which would you choose? I would choose iTunes for the variety, because what I listen to isn't found on the top 10 billboards.

That's a horrible comparison. :|

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#109 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

And I own both and buy the PS3 versions because of the extra content, you can call that dumb all you want but I vote with my wallet.

arkephonic

You're entitled to your 'extra content'. I should point out the PS3 and Xbox 360 are neck and neck in terms of worldwide sales and yet the vast majority of multiplatforms sell better on the Xbox 360. So a lot of gamers are 'dumb' I suppose.

Hokie, you derail every thread you enter. Don't turn this into a stupid PS3 vs 360 multiplatform debate. You are such a horrible poster. Go away.

I didn't bring up the argument.
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#110 NeonNinja
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I absolutely agree with this thread. I have a PC, a Wii, a 3DS and a PS3. Give me ONE reason to buy an xbox360? Indeed, there is none. I love the PS3 exclusives, and those guys talking about Halo? The first game was incredible, fantastic and gets a top spot in my favorites (I loved the original xbox) but the others were generic, storyless boring games. Same with Gears. First game was incredible, the others were more of the same, and it stops working after 2 games. PS3 has the same issues with games like Resistance and Uncharted, but they stop after 2 or 3 games and new IP's appear. Not on the 360, ANOTHER Halo, ANOTHER gears, ANOTHER Forza, ...but nothing else. Yes, maybe some arcade games. But PS3 has also fantastic exclusive arcade games.

zekere

Tales of Vesperia. There's your reason. Best RPG this gen and it's only on 360.

And your opinion of Halo is really weak. Your stance on Gears of War is true, but we were praising Halo for the tons of quality content found in it across multiple modes that all seamlessly tie in together. No one cares what you think of the story. Halo is the most content-packed shooter series out there. If you're going to disagree with us, that's fine, but don't misinterpret things and then spew some meaningless drivel.

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#111 ZombieKiller7
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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Other than Kratos in Mortal Kombat I don't remember much extra content.

Civ Revolution has extra content on PS3.

Portal 2 I think.

That's about it.

KC_Hokie

The 'extra content' argument is one of the weakest I've heard in a long time. I agree with you. Most of the 'extra content' is crap anyways.

You're right but the multiplat differences aint nothin to write home about either.

I rented Skyrim for 360 and PS3.

I'm sitting there switching the inputs on the TV back and forth.

After a half hour of this I have a headache and feel like a dumbass.

They look different but both look great.

2 pixels on the guy's left ear is the dumbest reason to miss out on Twisted Metal (assuming you want to play Twisted Metal in the first place.)

360 just doesn't have a competative advantage other than I guess casual gamers, people who like Dance Central and stuff.

All the hardcores are on PS3, and the super-hardcores are on PC.

And that's my perception so far.

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#112 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Other than Kratos in Mortal Kombat I don't remember much extra content.

Civ Revolution has extra content on PS3.

Portal 2 I think.

That's about it.

ZombieKiller7

The 'extra content' argument is one of the weakest I've heard in a long time. I agree with you. Most of the 'extra content' is crap anyways.

You're right but the multiplat differences aint nothin to write home about either.

I rented Skyrim for 360 and PS3.

I'm sitting there switching the inputs on the TV back and forth.

After a half hour of this I have a headache and feel like a dumbass.

They look different but both look great.

2 pixels on the guy's left ear is the dumbest reason to miss out on Twisted Metal (assuming you want to play Twisted Metal in the first place.)

360 just doesn't have a competative advantage other than I guess casual gamers, people who like Dance Central and stuff.

All the hardcores are on PS3, and the super-hardcores are on PC.

And that's my perception so far.

I own both systems. I'm not missing out on anything. I even keep a gaming PC around for MMOs.
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#113 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Other than Kratos in Mortal Kombat I don't remember much extra content.

Civ Revolution has extra content on PS3.

Portal 2 I think.

That's about it.

ZombieKiller7

The 'extra content' argument is one of the weakest I've heard in a long time. I agree with you. Most of the 'extra content' is crap anyways.

You're right but the multiplat differences aint nothin to write home about either.

I rented Skyrim for 360 and PS3.

I'm sitting there switching the inputs on the TV back and forth.

After a half hour of this I have a headache and feel like a dumbass.

They look different but both look great.

2 pixels on the guy's left ear is the dumbest reason to miss out on Twisted Metal (assuming you want to play Twisted Metal in the first place.)

360 just doesn't have a competative advantage other than I guess casual gamers, people who like Dance Central and stuff.

All the hardcores are on PS3, and the super-hardcores are on PC.

And that's my perception so far.

There is nothing all that hardcore about the PS3 or its gamers as a whole. Its as casual as every other console out there. The biggest sellers are casual games, the more in depth games sell a crap ton less like every other pltaform in existance.

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#114 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The 'extra content' argument is one of the weakest I've heard in a long time. I agree with you. Most of the 'extra content' is crap anyways. ActicEdge

You're right but the multiplat differences aint nothin to write home about either.

I rented Skyrim for 360 and PS3.

I'm sitting there switching the inputs on the TV back and forth.

After a half hour of this I have a headache and feel like a dumbass.

They look different but both look great.

2 pixels on the guy's left ear is the dumbest reason to miss out on Twisted Metal (assuming you want to play Twisted Metal in the first place.)

360 just doesn't have a competative advantage other than I guess casual gamers, people who like Dance Central and stuff.

All the hardcores are on PS3, and the super-hardcores are on PC.

And that's my perception so far.

There is nothing all that hardcore about the PS3 or its gamers as a whole. Its as casual as every other console out there. The biggest sellers are casual games, the more in depth games sell a crap ton less like every other pltaform in existance.

Good point. The 'hardcore' PS3 games don't sell well at all.

One developer said something like 'you're as casual or hardcore as you want to be...on any system' (paraphrasing).

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So the Kinect isn't exclusive or innovative? Anyone who says yes to that fails.
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#116 arkephonic
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Here's a thread that pretty much covers all the content differences between the PS3 and 360 versions. Go there if you want to talk about that stuff, Hokie.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29021607/which-xbox-360-multi-platform-games-have-more-content-than-the-ps3-counterpart

Those differences in content far outweigh any differences in graphics and performance between PS3 and 360 multi-plats. Hermits probably find it hilarious when they see Cows and Lemmings arguing over graphics in multi-plats.

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#117 KC_Hokie
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Here's a thread that pretty much covers all the content differences between the PS3 and 360 versions. Go there if you want to talk about that stuff, Hokie.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29021607/which-xbox-360-multi-platform-games-have-more-content-than-the-ps3-counterpart

Those differences in content far outweigh any differences in graphics and performance between PS3 and 360 multi-plats. Hermits probably find it hilarious when they see Cows and Lemmings arguing over graphics in multi-plats.

arkephonic
I didn't bring up the argument...another poster did. I simply disagreed with you and now you're acting like I changed the subject or something.
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#118 arkephonic
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Casual games always sell more than hardcore games. It doesn't matter what platform it is for.

Wii Fit has sold 42.89 million copies.

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#119 Tikeio
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Tales of Vesperia. Best RPG this gen and it's only on 360.

NeonNinja

Well, it's certainly one of the best. It's only a 360 exclusive outside of Japan though.

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#120 arkephonic
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Tales of Vesperia. Best RPG this gen and it's only on 360.

Tikeio

Well, it's certainly one of the best. It's only a 360 exclusive outside of Japan though.

I actually have that game, I haven't tried it yet. I have never played any "Tales" game before.

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Wii Fit has sold 42.89 million copies.

arkephonic

That's ridiculous.

Maybe the "core gamers" are the ones that are out of touch and Microsoft struck gold with Kinect.

Maybe to normal people motion gaming is the best thing since sliced bread.

Contrast 42.89 million WiiFit with barely 1 million sold Resistance 3 or 1.5 million sold Witcher 2.

Hate to tell you but we're in the minority.

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#122 ActicEdge
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Casual games always sell more than hardcore games. It doesn't matter what platform it is for.

Wii Fit has sold 42.89 million copies.

arkephonic

That's the point, the idea that a platform is "hardcore" is stupid. Casual games reign supreme on every platform. There are great deep experiences on every platform but they are never what truly defines the platform for the majority of the audience.

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#123 arkephonic
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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Wii Fit has sold 42.89 million copies.

ZombieKiller7

That's ridiculous.

Maybe the "core gamers" are the ones that are out of touch and Microsoft struck gold with Kinect.

Maybe to normal people motion gaming is the best thing since sliced bread.

Yeah, it totally is. Most definitely, 100%.

It's like as a record label, do you want to sign Justin Bieber or Aeternam (death metal band)? Well, Justin Bieber may not be your favorite artist, but he'll make you millions. The death metal band will probably make you nothing.

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Microsoft is investing in the Justin Bieber, and not the kind of music you and I like. Well, I can't speak for you or anyone else here, only myself, but I am under the impression people here like core games and not casual games.

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#125 arkephonic
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Did you know that last year, Zynga, the makers of Farmville, made more money than EA and Activision combined?

Casual games are the future.

Get this, the people at Zynga are comprimised of people from the works of Age of Empires, Age of Mythology, Alpha Centauri, Civ 2, Command and Conquer, Halo Wars, Nadden, Rise of Nations, NBA Jam, Spore, Timequest, Unreal 2 The Awakening....

They're not a bunch of scrubs, they are qualified talent that has moved on to casual gaming.

Casual gaming is where the money is, and slowly but surely, industry big shots everywhere will follow the money.

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Microsoft is investing in the Justin Bieber, and not the kind of music you and I like. Well, I can't speak for you or anyone else here, only myself, but I am under the impression people here like core games and not casual games.

arkephonic

In the end I don't think it matters much what platform we (as individuals) choose.

Either way We'll have "core" games to play and a bevy of social/motion/whatever stuff for other people.

System Wars is fear of buyer's remorse.

Fear that your system might become less popular and thus receive less support or become obsolete.

If it were not for that fear, everybody would just be playing on whatever system they liked.

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#127 Tikeio
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I actually have that game, I haven't tried it yet. I have never played any "Tales" game before.

arkephonic

Tales of Symphonia is the best one, and was the first 3D Tales games. Too bad you missed out on it.

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#128 arkephonic
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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I actually have that game, I haven't tried it yet. I have never played any "Tales" game before.

Tikeio

Tales of Symphonia is the best one, and was the first 3D Tales games. Too bad you missed out on it.

Yeah, the Gamecube game. I actually owned that one too, but never played it.

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#129 ZombieKiller7
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Did you know that last year, Zynga, the makers of Farmville, made more money than EA and Activision combined?

Casual games are the future.

Get this, the people at Zynga are comprimised of people from the works of Age of Empires, Age of Mythology, Alpha Centauri, Civ 2, Command and Conquer, Halo Wars, Nadden, Rise of Nations, NBA Jam, Spore, Timequest, Unreal 2 The Awakening....

They're not a bunch of scrubs, they are qualified talent that has moved on to casual gaming.

Casual gaming is where the money is, and slowly but surely, industry big shots everywhere will follow the money.

arkephonic

I was discussing this with my girl the other night.

She was like "but it's free, they're probably broke college students."

I'm like "babe they're richer than Poland. These are not college students."

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#130 arkephonic
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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Microsoft is investing in the Justin Bieber, and not the kind of music you and I like. Well, I can't speak for you or anyone else here, only myself, but I am under the impression people here like core games and not casual games.

ZombieKiller7

In the end I don't think it matters much what platform we (as individuals) choose.

Either way We'll have "core" games to play and a bevy of social/motion/whatever stuff for other people.

System Wars is fear of buyer's remorse.

Fear that your system might become less popular and thus receive less support or become obsolete.

If it were not for that fear, everybody would just be playing on whatever system they liked.

Speak for yourself. I have zero buyer's remorse, and the last thing I would ever do is be fearful that one of my systems might become less popular. I couldn't care less about that, honestly. I find myself spending more time on my Dreamcast and PS1 than any of my other systems, and trust me, those aren't going to be getting any new games or support anytime soon.

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#131 Tikeio
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[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I actually have that game, I haven't tried it yet. I have never played any "Tales" game before.

arkephonic

Tales of Symphonia is the best one, and was the first 3D Tales games. Too bad you missed out on it.

Yeah, the Gamecube game. I actually owned that one too, but never played it.

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#132 nervmeister
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Microsoft is investing in the Justin Bieber, and not the kind of music you and I like. Well, I can't speak for you or anyone else here, only myself, but I am under the impression people here like core games and not casual games.

arkephonic

You do realize that core gaming isn't limited to exclusives, right? That said, MS seems to be using Kinect to promote core gaming on their system by implementing it multiplats, and casual gaming by creating Kinect-only titles. Sure, many here would rather see MS come up with more core exclusives, but strictly from a business standpoint, it's a potentially worthwhile strategy.

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#133 arkephonic
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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Microsoft is investing in the Justin Bieber, and not the kind of music you and I like. Well, I can't speak for you or anyone else here, only myself, but I am under the impression people here like core games and not casual games.

nervmeister

You do realize that core gaming isn't limited to exclusives, right? That said, MS seems to be using Kinect to promote core gaming on their system by implementing it multiplats, and casual gaming by creating Kinect-only titles. Sure, many here would rather see MS come up with core exclusives, but strictly from a business standpoint, it's a potentially worthwhile strategy.

It isn't a potentially worthwhile strategy, it is a pure genius strategy. Microsoft didn't get to where they are today by accident.

That said, I have no interest in the direction they are going. The kid that was waiting in line for Halo 3's midnight launch, the kid that helped get Xbox to where it is today, is no longer Microsoft's interest. But that doesn't matter in the end, Microsoft is a business, and a cutthroat one at that.

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#134 jg4xchamp
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Viva Pinata
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#135 arkephonic
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Viva Pinatajg4xchamp

That is such a great game, but it's also on PC :P

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#136 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Viva Pinataarkephonic

That is such a great game, but it's also on PC :P

What? Stupid ass Microsoft needs to put it on Steam. I want viva pinata on my PC!
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#137 themajormayor
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No sh*t...
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#138 loosingENDS
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Their most critically acclaimed exclusives are a third person shooter (Gears of War), a first person shooter (Halo), and a racing game (Forza).

FPS the most overused genre this generation. Third person shooters are everywhere. Racing games are pretty generic. It just seems like you can get a great first person shooting experience anywhere, and there are so many great third person shooters out there, and lots of good racing games.

With PC, you have RTS games, MMO's, and tons of other exclusives that you just can't get anywhere else, not even similar experiences. There's nothing else out there like Metal Gear Solid 4, or Uncharted with the platforming, puzzles and 3rd person shooting combination with the verticality. Games like LittleBigPlanet differentiate themselves from everything else, as do games like Heavy Rain. Games like Skyward Sword and Super Mario Galaxy are unlike anything else out there, multi-plat or exclusive.

It just seems like the critically acclaimed exclusives on PC, PS3 and Wii offer experiences you can't get anywhere else, while the critically acclaimed exclusives on 360 are very generic, and the experiences are very similar to tons of exclusives on competing platforms as well as many multi-platform games. They don't even have the dialog like a Metal Gear Solid 4 to differentiate themselves.

I know that Kinect is unique, but it sure isn't critically acclaimed.

arkephonic

They have

- Best shooters - Halo 3-4-Reach, Gears 1-2-3

- Best strategy - Halo Wars, BFM2

- Best WRPGs - Fable 2-3-Journey, Mass Effect 1-2-3, Skyrim, Risen 1-2, Witcher 2, Dark Souls

- Best JRPGs - Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia, Blue Dragon, Dust, Bastion

- Best racers - PGR3-4, Forza 3-4

- Best adventures - Alan Wake, Grey Matter

- Best stealth - Splinter Cell

- Best zombie - Deadlight, Clas3 MMO

- Best action - Bayonetta, Draco, Ryse

.

So, they have the best games this generation in nearly all genres

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#139 majestix1988
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O_o...but now in this current year.....Awesome Multiplat GRAPHICS!!! only with awesome add-on Kinect things

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#140 soapandbubbles
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[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]And lets not forget how Gears has influenced games more than any other game this gen. Revolutionized and popularized cover systems: After Gears of War nearly every 3rd person shooter since has emulated this mechanic. Standardized survival mode: After Gears of War 2 nearly every single shooter has implemented some short of survival/horde mode; even pouring over to other genres like RTS.

Yep, like how gears was influenced by Resident Evil 4 from last gen, and the horde basically being mercenaries mode...etc. Gears has achieved a lot this gen for sure.
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#141 waltefmoney
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That's because Microsoft doesn't care about quantity of exclusives as much as Sony does, obviously. If you don't like it take a hike.

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#143 Eddie-Vedder
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Lemmings don't buy 360's for games dude, they buy them so they can brag about the US NPD sales, and Kinect selling.

They don't actually play on them.

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#145 loosingENDS
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That's because Microsoft doesn't care about quantity of exclusives as much as Sony does, obviously. If you don't like it take a hike.

waltefmoney

I dont find any quality in Uncharted, Infsmous, Killzone, Reisstance etc

These games are casual crap for the masses

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#146 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

That's because Microsoft doesn't care about quantity of exclusives as much as Sony does, obviously. If you don't like it take a hike.

loosingENDS

I dont find any quality in Uncharted, Infsmous, Killzone, Reisstance etc

These games are casual crap for the masses

Sony just sucks prick amirite or amirite?

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#147 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

That's because Microsoft doesn't care about quantity of exclusives as much as Sony does, obviously. If you don't like it take a hike.

waltefmoney

I dont find any quality in Uncharted, Infsmous, Killzone, Reisstance etc

These games are casual crap for the masses

Sony just sucks prick amirite or amirite?

Not really, Sony was amazing in PS1-2 days, PS3 is the problem that focuses on indifferent shooters than what made PS1-2 great

Their exclusive JRPGs besides Demons SOuls are pathetic, like the horrid White Knight or Neptunia, 360 has got all JRPG gaming this generation easilly

In trying to immitate 360 success in shooters, they totally destroyed their game lineup

PS brand has lost all its appeal to me, that is all and Sony is responsible, who wants 100 indifferent shooters ? Not me for sure

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#148 waltefmoney
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Not really, Sony was amazing in PS1-2 days, PS3 is the problem that focuses on indifferent shooters than what made PS1-2 great

Their exclusive JRPGs besides Demons SOuls are pathetic, like the horrid White Knight or Neptunia, 360 has got all JRPG gaming this generation easilly

In trying to immitate 360 success, they totally destroyed their game lineup

loosingENDS

For realz. You know who sucks prick Microshaft. What a flop company.

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#149 soulitane
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I dont find any quality in Uncharted, Infsmous, Killzone, Reisstance etc

These games are casual crap for the masses

loosingENDS

Sony just sucks prick amirite or amirite?

Not really, Sony was amazing in PS1-2 days, PS3 is the problem that focuses on indifferent shooters than what made PS1-2 great

Their exclusive JRPGs besides Demons SOuls are pathetic, like the horrid White Knight or Neptunia, 360 has got all JRPG gaming this generation easilly

In trying to immitate 360 success in shooters, they totally destroyed their game lineup

PS brand has lost all its appeal to me, that is all and Sony is responsible, who wants 100 indifferent shooters ? Not me for sure

Have you tried the yakuza series on PS3? You may like them :P
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#150 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Sony just sucks prick amirite or amirite?

soulitane

Not really, Sony was amazing in PS1-2 days, PS3 is the problem that focuses on indifferent shooters than what made PS1-2 great

Their exclusive JRPGs besides Demons SOuls are pathetic, like the horrid White Knight or Neptunia, 360 has got all JRPG gaming this generation easilly

In trying to immitate 360 success in shooters, they totally destroyed their game lineup

PS brand has lost all its appeal to me, that is all and Sony is responsible, who wants 100 indifferent shooters ? Not me for sure

Have you tried the yakuza series on PS3? You may like them :P

Everytime i think about getting those, i see videos of gameplay and i stop

I am not very fond of the style TBH, while some elements are indeed very attractive, i just hate the combat thing in it

I was never in beat em ups

But i agree that this is definatly one of the interesting games of PS3, together with Folklore, Heavy Rain, Demons SOuls, Journey, Nino Kuni etc

What i hate, is SOny focus on cinematic games like Uncharted, MGS4 etc that i dont like at all, when those could have been amazing RPGs instead

Sony has lost its way imo, totally