Not everyone gets headaches....1 and only thing that let it down is. autostereoscpic 3d...there no autostereoscopic tvs on the market for consumers yet. they are all in testing stages. so half an hour of gametime and a massive headache is not worth it...
planbfreak4eva
The 3DS has been nothing but a series of disasters so far...
This topic is locked from further discussion.
Not to mention that Zelda oot 3D failed to sell 3 million 3DS unitS
Just throwing this out there, I do not believe the 3DS will 'fail.' I see it selling at least 50-60 million over its lifetime, which is by no means a failure. I just believe that thus far, the entire handling of the system has been a massive disaster.charizard1605
So it won't be a sales failure.
Are you worried that it won't reach DS' level of greatness?
What do you think about its first year lineup, compared to DS?
why are you still going on about that?Not to mention that Zelda oot 3D failed to sell 3 million 3DS unitS
EggHeadMan
[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"]Not everyone gets headaches.... how many people traded in their 3ds within the first week? how much did it sell...you can do the math that majority did have headaches. eye strain and other problems...but ofc not everyone...1 and only thing that let it down is. autostereoscpic 3d...there no autostereoscopic tvs on the market for consumers yet. they are all in testing stages. so half an hour of gametime and a massive headache is not worth it...
SaltyMeatballs
[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"]Not everyone gets headaches.... how many people traded in their 3ds within the first week? how much did it sell...you can do the math that majority did have headaches. eye strain and other problems...but ofc not everyone... show some statistical proof or you're just spouting non-sense. Personal anecdote is nothing.1 and only thing that let it down is. autostereoscpic 3d...there no autostereoscopic tvs on the market for consumers yet. they are all in testing stages. so half an hour of gametime and a massive headache is not worth it...
planbfreak4eva
But most of the casuals that own DSes will see no reason to upgrade to the 3DS, even with those things. This is why the Wii U will be a flop.Nintendo will turn things around eventually -
Nike_Air
- redesign
- pricedrop
- Mario / Pokemon
- kill the DS with fire
It's a scientific fact that 10-15% will experience some kind of side effect when exposed to stereoscopic 3D.
That's it.
Undisputable, unless you can refer to a study from a reputable source that says otherwise.
If it doesn't sell on the holidays, then we can call it a disaster.
If it doesn't sell on the holidays, then we can call it a disaster.
93BlackHawk93
What he said
It's a scientific fact that 10-15% will experience some kind of side effect when exposed to stereoscopic 3D.
That's it.
Undisputable, unless you can refer to a study from a reputable source that says otherwise.
SuperFlakeman
So wheres the scientific study that shows those numbers? Until you link it, you're talking BS.
[QUOTE="Wasdie"]I agree with Wasdie here. The 3DS is doing fine and will do fine. Also some things you noted - The device didn't cost $110 to manufacturer. That's the cost of all the raw materials, converting that into a device costs Nintendo more money. You're not considering things like overhead and direct labour into the equation by looking at raw material costs. The other thing about the canned 3DS software - the only one that mattered a bit was Mega Man Legends 3. DJ Hero 3DS would have been a waste, the music/rhythm market is pretty dead due to over saturation, the Saints Row game would have been pretty meh worthy, the AC game was better off being made as a full console release. The price is fine so long as Nintendo can provide ways to show consumers they're handheld is worth the money. More software and heavy hitting titles will do that - Mario Kart 3D and Super Mario 3D coming out this year along with others like Kid Icarus will provide more value to the consumer. Lastly, it's probably smarter for third parties to delay their games until Spring 2012 rather than compete with Nintendo when they're going full force this Holiday season. You couldn't put it in much better words than that. :)I honestly think you're letting SWs get to your head.
The 3DS will do fine.
Haziqonfire
I will probably wait for a remodel to come around for a (hopefully) extended battery life.
Hey you stole my thread! :P jk
But honestly I think the biggest problem is that the 3D was just a complete bust. It made the system a bit more expensive, it ruined the battery and limits the hardware capabilities severly because a lot has to be dedicated to the 3D effect, even if its turned off you have to make it work seemlessly with the 3D so you aren't able to maximize the hardware as much as you would if you didn't have to worry about it
and all of these troubles for a feature that NOBODY likes. Ok, I enjoy it, but it doesn't really add that much at all.. It goes out of focus too easily and makes it difficult to just get in a comfortable position and play in, the system basically forces you to sit and hold your system a certain way in order to enjoy it to the fullest which shouldn't be the case.
In the end I think Nintendo will regret adding 3D to this as much as sony should regret adding bluray. It caused more trouble then it was worth and while it did eventually pay off and the system rebounded it could have hit the ground running if they hadn't bothered with it and the system would have been much more successful in the long run.
VendettaRed07
I agree. They shouldn't have bothered with 3D at all. You can get much better graphics without the 3D feature. Sony did it with Vita.
I honestly think you're letting SWs get to your head.
The 3DS will do fine.
Wasdie
Thread should have ended with this post.
As another "true" nintendo fan(I was there through the dark ages), I agree the launch was weak but that does not mean iy is a disaster. Not to mention All the good games coming out this year for it. I am dissapointed Megaman Legends is getting cancelled that is terrible.
I'm sick of Mario and Pokemon. I'd rather Nintendo turn things around with a brand new promising IP.Even if they did (they did) what are the chances of them being localized for NA[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]
Nintendo will turn things around eventually -
- redesign
- pricedrop
- Mario / Pokemon
- kill the DS with fire
Comduter
I can understand most of those points, being a 3DS owner.
The battery can really be abysmal, but I'll be getting Nyko's Power Pak+, and I'd recommend one to you as well, doesn't add a massive amount of weight, and puts your battery at DSi level.
As far as cancellations go, My Garden was a game that IMO was better off cancelled, rather than off putting possible 3DS owners. Saints Row was a bit of a hit, Assassin's Creed was definetely a great opportunity to get some A-AAA Third Party support. But Megaman Legends 3 was the biggest hit. That was a great looking game that would've sold systems. These all suck, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a 3DS Assassin's Creed game after Wii U gets one.
Ultimately, Sega is being extremely stupid. They're delaying games because the system isn't selling. The system isn't selling because of lack of games.
Now, I do think the 3DS could use a price drop, but I don't think Nintendo should, YET. Whileit is slightly over-priced, dropping the price just because Sony played an ace up their sleeve with Vita's price-point would just show consumers and devs that they don't have faith in the system. Now, if Vita is completely destorying it sales-wise, go ahead, but I simply don't see enough games from Vita to beat out the 3DS holiday library.
Pokemon will save the day, whenever that comes out.
Okay, before we proceed, let me just set the record straight: in case you didn't know already, I'm one of the few 'true' sheep on this forum. I love Nintendo, and I got the 3DS within a month of its launch. Nintendo has never had a failed handheld yet, and I trust(ed) that that won't change anytime soon now.
Having said that, let's have a look at the gross mishandling the 3DS has received so far:
- The battery life sucks. I can eek out 4-5 hours on average, but considering that we were promised DSi levels of battery life (which would be about 8-9 hours), and that battery life has been a traditional strength of Nintendo handhelds, this is just plain inexcusable.
- The price: why price it at $250? Especially considering that the cost of manufacturing is roughly $110? The 3DS's price seems even more inexcusable considering the much more technologically endowed Vita costs exactly the same.
- The launch: seriously, barring maybe the PS3, this was probably the most botched launch of any game system in history. The 3DS launched with most of its functionality disabled, which was only added in later via firmware updates, and is in fact still being added in. This gave the entire system the impression of being rushed to launch. And let's not forget about the games. Which brings me to...
- The launch lineup. Nintendo promised us 'the best launch lineup' for the 3DS. We were promised top tier titles like Animal Crossing, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Star Fox 64 3D, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, Super Street Fighter IV, Resident Evil: Mercenaries and Nintendogs+Cats for the launch lineup. Of these, only two were actually released with the system, and while both of them sold in excess of a million units each, none of them were must haves.
- Games: Okay, so the 3DS is getting an incredible upcoming lineup. We know this. However, third parties increasingly seem to be losing confidence in the system. Games for the 3DS which have been cancelled so far include, but are not limited to, Crush 3D, Megaman Legends 3, Assassin's Creed: Lost Legacy, Saint's Row Drive By, My Garden and DJ Hero 3. This displays a worrying lack of confidence by third parties in the system- something that was never an issue with the original DS, even at the time of that system's similarly rocky launch.
- Marketing and perception: Seriously, this is perhaps the biggest blunder on Nintendo's part. The marketing for the 3DS fails on so many levels, it's not even funny. The adds fail to convey the simple message that the 3DS is an altogether new system, not an upgrade to the existing DS line. They focus too much on the 3D, as opposed to the other functionality the 3DS includes, including its persistent online, it's power boost, it's analog slider, it's 3D camera, it's multimedia capabilties, and more. The outcome of this is that the 3DS is seen by almost everybody as a DS 3D, or a 3D DS- just another new iteration, which definitely does not warrant a $250 dollar purchase.
Seriously, I love Nintendo, and I love their handhelds. I've owned every single one of their handhelds starting the Gamebiy Color, and so far, they have never disppointed me. So far, I have managed to convince myself that the problems with the DS echo some similar problems that the DS faced about the time of its launch, but there is simply too much that is going wrong, and I'm beginning to panic now, and wonder if I spent those $250 a bit too soon.
I still think the situation can be salvaged- the upcoming lineup for the system this year is nothing short of awesome, with Mario Kart, Super Mario, Shinobi, Rayman Origins, Sonic Generations, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Paper Mario, Star Fox 64 3D, Tales of the Abyss, Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor and Metal Gear Solid 3D. Along with new colors, a price drop and some bundles, as well as some increased marketing, the 3DS can be yet saved, and consolidated before the Vita's launch.
But it seriously makes me think, just WTF is Nintendo doing right now?
charizard1605
Are you having a laugh? Is he having a laugh?
Seriously Luigi's Mansion? I don't think so. The upcoming lineup gets CRUSHED by PSVita
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]
Okay, before we proceed, let me just set the record straight: in case you didn't know already, I'm one of the few 'true' sheep on this forum. I love Nintendo, and I got the 3DS within a month of its launch. Nintendo has never had a failed handheld yet, and I trust(ed) that that won't change anytime soon now.
Having said that, let's have a look at the gross mishandling the 3DS has received so far:
- The battery life sucks. I can eek out 4-5 hours on average, but considering that we were promised DSi levels of battery life (which would be about 8-9 hours), and that battery life has been a traditional strength of Nintendo handhelds, this is just plain inexcusable.
- The price: why price it at $250? Especially considering that the cost of manufacturing is roughly $110? The 3DS's price seems even more inexcusable considering the much more technologically endowed Vita costs exactly the same.
- The launch: seriously, barring maybe the PS3, this was probably the most botched launch of any game system in history. The 3DS launched with most of its functionality disabled, which was only added in later via firmware updates, and is in fact still being added in. This gave the entire system the impression of being rushed to launch. And let's not forget about the games. Which brings me to...
- The launch lineup. Nintendo promised us 'the best launch lineup' for the 3DS. We were promised top tier titles like Animal Crossing, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Star Fox 64 3D, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, Super Street Fighter IV, Resident Evil: Mercenaries and Nintendogs+Cats for the launch lineup. Of these, only two were actually released with the system, and while both of them sold in excess of a million units each, none of them were must haves.
- Games: Okay, so the 3DS is getting an incredible upcoming lineup. We know this. However, third parties increasingly seem to be losing confidence in the system. Games for the 3DS which have been cancelled so far include, but are not limited to, Crush 3D, Megaman Legends 3, Assassin's Creed: Lost Legacy, Saint's Row Drive By, My Garden and DJ Hero 3. This displays a worrying lack of confidence by third parties in the system- something that was never an issue with the original DS, even at the time of that system's similarly rocky launch.
- Marketing and perception: Seriously, this is perhaps the biggest blunder on Nintendo's part. The marketing for the 3DS fails on so many levels, it's not even funny. The adds fail to convey the simple message that the 3DS is an altogether new system, not an upgrade to the existing DS line. They focus too much on the 3D, as opposed to the other functionality the 3DS includes, including its persistent online, it's power boost, it's analog slider, it's 3D camera, it's multimedia capabilties, and more. The outcome of this is that the 3DS is seen by almost everybody as a DS 3D, or a 3D DS- just another new iteration, which definitely does not warrant a $250 dollar purchase.
Seriously, I love Nintendo, and I love their handhelds. I've owned every single one of their handhelds starting the Gamebiy Color, and so far, they have never disppointed me. So far, I have managed to convince myself that the problems with the DS echo some similar problems that the DS faced about the time of its launch, but there is simply too much that is going wrong, and I'm beginning to panic now, and wonder if I spent those $250 a bit too soon.
I still think the situation can be salvaged- the upcoming lineup for the system this year is nothing short of awesome, with Mario Kart, Super Mario, Shinobi, Rayman Origins, Sonic Generations, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Paper Mario, Star Fox 64 3D, Tales of the Abyss, Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor and Metal Gear Solid 3D. Along with new colors, a price drop and some bundles, as well as some increased marketing, the 3DS can be yet saved, and consolidated before the Vita's launch.
But it seriously makes me think, just WTF is Nintendo doing right now?
Are you having a laugh? Is he having a laugh?
Seriously Luigi's Mansion? I don't think so. The upcoming lineup gets CRUSHED by PSVita
Complete bull. Kid Icarus, Super Mario, Mario Kart, Metal Gear Sold 3, Shinobi, Sonic Generations, Cave Story 3D. And that's this year. I've heard of all of 4 games for Vita on that level. And atleast one isn't a launch titles.[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]
Okay, before we proceed, let me just set the record straight: in case you didn't know already, I'm one of the few 'true' sheep on this forum. I love Nintendo, and I got the 3DS within a month of its launch. Nintendo has never had a failed handheld yet, and I trust(ed) that that won't change anytime soon now.
Having said that, let's have a look at the gross mishandling the 3DS has received so far:
- The battery life sucks. I can eek out 4-5 hours on average, but considering that we were promised DSi levels of battery life (which would be about 8-9 hours), and that battery life has been a traditional strength of Nintendo handhelds, this is just plain inexcusable.
- The price: why price it at $250? Especially considering that the cost of manufacturing is roughly $110? The 3DS's price seems even more inexcusable considering the much more technologically endowed Vita costs exactly the same.
- The launch: seriously, barring maybe the PS3, this was probably the most botched launch of any game system in history. The 3DS launched with most of its functionality disabled, which was only added in later via firmware updates, and is in fact still being added in. This gave the entire system the impression of being rushed to launch. And let's not forget about the games. Which brings me to...
- The launch lineup. Nintendo promised us 'the best launch lineup' for the 3DS. We were promised top tier titles like Animal Crossing, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Star Fox 64 3D, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, Super Street Fighter IV, Resident Evil: Mercenaries and Nintendogs+Cats for the launch lineup. Of these, only two were actually released with the system, and while both of them sold in excess of a million units each, none of them were must haves.
- Games: Okay, so the 3DS is getting an incredible upcoming lineup. We know this. However, third parties increasingly seem to be losing confidence in the system. Games for the 3DS which have been cancelled so far include, but are not limited to, Crush 3D, Megaman Legends 3, Assassin's Creed: Lost Legacy, Saint's Row Drive By, My Garden and DJ Hero 3. This displays a worrying lack of confidence by third parties in the system- something that was never an issue with the original DS, even at the time of that system's similarly rocky launch.
- Marketing and perception: Seriously, this is perhaps the biggest blunder on Nintendo's part. The marketing for the 3DS fails on so many levels, it's not even funny. The adds fail to convey the simple message that the 3DS is an altogether new system, not an upgrade to the existing DS line. They focus too much on the 3D, as opposed to the other functionality the 3DS includes, including its persistent online, it's power boost, it's analog slider, it's 3D camera, it's multimedia capabilties, and more. The outcome of this is that the 3DS is seen by almost everybody as a DS 3D, or a 3D DS- just another new iteration, which definitely does not warrant a $250 dollar purchase.
Seriously, I love Nintendo, and I love their handhelds. I've owned every single one of their handhelds starting the Gamebiy Color, and so far, they have never disppointed me. So far, I have managed to convince myself that the problems with the DS echo some similar problems that the DS faced about the time of its launch, but there is simply too much that is going wrong, and I'm beginning to panic now, and wonder if I spent those $250 a bit too soon.
I still think the situation can be salvaged- the upcoming lineup for the system this year is nothing short of awesome, with Mario Kart, Super Mario, Shinobi, Rayman Origins, Sonic Generations, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Paper Mario, Star Fox 64 3D, Tales of the Abyss, Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor and Metal Gear Solid 3D. Along with new colors, a price drop and some bundles, as well as some increased marketing, the 3DS can be yet saved, and consolidated before the Vita's launch.
But it seriously makes me think, just WTF is Nintendo doing right now?
Nozizaki
Are you having a laugh? Is he having a laugh?
Seriously Luigi's Mansion? I don't think so. The upcoming lineup gets CRUSHED by PSVita
Complete bull. Kid Icarus, Super Mario, Mario Kart, Metal Gear Sold 3, Shinobi, Sonic Generations, Cave Story 3D. And that's this year. I've heard of all of 4 games for Vita on that level. And atleast one isn't a launch titles. So the only quality game it's getting is MGS3, which is a rerelease :?Complete bull. Kid Icarus, Super Mario, Mario Kart, Metal Gear Sold 3, Shinobi, Sonic Generations, Cave Story 3D. And that's this year. I've heard of all of 4 games for Vita on that level. And atleast one isn't a launch titles. So the only quality game it's getting is MGS3, which is a rerelease :? protip: Just because you don't like mario games doesn't mean that they aren't quality[QUOTE="Nozizaki"][QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]
Are you having a laugh? Is he having a laugh?
Seriously Luigi's Mansion? I don't think so. The upcoming lineup gets CRUSHED by PSVita
charlesdarwin55
[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]
Okay, before we proceed, let me just set the record straight: in case you didn't know already, I'm one of the few 'true' sheep on this forum. I love Nintendo, and I got the 3DS within a month of its launch. Nintendo has never had a failed handheld yet, and I trust(ed) that that won't change anytime soon now.
Having said that, let's have a look at the gross mishandling the 3DS has received so far:
- The battery life sucks. I can eek out 4-5 hours on average, but considering that we were promised DSi levels of battery life (which would be about 8-9 hours), and that battery life has been a traditional strength of Nintendo handhelds, this is just plain inexcusable.
- The price: why price it at $250? Especially considering that the cost of manufacturing is roughly $110? The 3DS's price seems even more inexcusable considering the much more technologically endowed Vita costs exactly the same.
- The launch: seriously, barring maybe the PS3, this was probably the most botched launch of any game system in history. The 3DS launched with most of its functionality disabled, which was only added in later via firmware updates, and is in fact still being added in. This gave the entire system the impression of being rushed to launch. And let's not forget about the games. Which brings me to...
- The launch lineup. Nintendo promised us 'the best launch lineup' for the 3DS. We were promised top tier titles like Animal Crossing, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Star Fox 64 3D, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, Super Street Fighter IV, Resident Evil: Mercenaries and Nintendogs+Cats for the launch lineup. Of these, only two were actually released with the system, and while both of them sold in excess of a million units each, none of them were must haves.
- Games: Okay, so the 3DS is getting an incredible upcoming lineup. We know this. However, third parties increasingly seem to be losing confidence in the system. Games for the 3DS which have been cancelled so far include, but are not limited to, Crush 3D, Megaman Legends 3, Assassin's Creed: Lost Legacy, Saint's Row Drive By, My Garden and DJ Hero 3. This displays a worrying lack of confidence by third parties in the system- something that was never an issue with the original DS, even at the time of that system's similarly rocky launch.
- Marketing and perception: Seriously, this is perhaps the biggest blunder on Nintendo's part. The marketing for the 3DS fails on so many levels, it's not even funny. The adds fail to convey the simple message that the 3DS is an altogether new system, not an upgrade to the existing DS line. They focus too much on the 3D, as opposed to the other functionality the 3DS includes, including its persistent online, it's power boost, it's analog slider, it's 3D camera, it's multimedia capabilties, and more. The outcome of this is that the 3DS is seen by almost everybody as a DS 3D, or a 3D DS- just another new iteration, which definitely does not warrant a $250 dollar purchase.
Seriously, I love Nintendo, and I love their handhelds. I've owned every single one of their handhelds starting the Gamebiy Color, and so far, they have never disppointed me. So far, I have managed to convince myself that the problems with the DS echo some similar problems that the DS faced about the time of its launch, but there is simply too much that is going wrong, and I'm beginning to panic now, and wonder if I spent those $250 a bit too soon.
I still think the situation can be salvaged- the upcoming lineup for the system this year is nothing short of awesome, with Mario Kart, Super Mario, Shinobi, Rayman Origins, Sonic Generations, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Paper Mario, Star Fox 64 3D, Tales of the Abyss, Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor and Metal Gear Solid 3D. Along with new colors, a price drop and some bundles, as well as some increased marketing, the 3DS can be yet saved, and consolidated before the Vita's launch.
But it seriously makes me think, just WTF is Nintendo doing right now?
Nozizaki
Are you having a laugh? Is he having a laugh?
Seriously Luigi's Mansion? I don't think so. The upcoming lineup gets CRUSHED by PSVita
Complete bull. Kid Icarus, Super Mario, Mario Kart, Metal Gear Sold 3, Shinobi, Sonic Generations, Cave Story 3D. And that's this year. I've heard of all of 4 games for Vita on that level. And atleast one isn't a launch titles. You forgot Paper Mario, Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked and Animal Crossing.protip: Just because you don't like mario games doesn't mean that they aren't quality Why not? If it has no quality elements it's not a quality game. Not even going to bother with this. 2/10 see me after class[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] So the only quality game it's getting is MGS3, which is a rerelease :?
charlesdarwin55
Complete bull. Kid Icarus, Super Mario, Mario Kart, Metal Gear Sold 3, Shinobi, Sonic Generations, Cave Story 3D. And that's this year. I've heard of all of 4 games for Vita on that level. And atleast one isn't a launch titles. You forgot Paper Mario, Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked and Animal Crossing.[QUOTE="Nozizaki"][QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]
Are you having a laugh? Is he having a laugh?
Seriously Luigi's Mansion? I don't think so. The upcoming lineup gets CRUSHED by PSVita
93BlackHawk93
Yeah save this thread dont bother with this guy.
Not even going to bother with this. 2/10 see me after class meh u know Im right. Mario was fun when you where 7, now not so much. Dude, I went to a university and I found that the students I was hanging out with had a DS with Mario Kart. Tell me that doesn't get old 14 years later.[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] Why not? If it has no quality elements it's not a quality game.
charlesdarwin55
EDIT: And they weren't gamers.
Okay, before we proceed, let me just set the record straight: in case you didn't know already, I'm one of the few 'true' sheep on this forum. I love Nintendo, and I got the 3DS within a month of its launch. Nintendo has never had a failed handheld yet, and I trust(ed) that that won't change anytime soon now.
Having said that, let's have a look at the gross mishandling the 3DS has received so far:
- The battery life sucks. I can eek out 4-5 hours on average, but considering that we were promised DSi levels of battery life (which would be about 8-9 hours), and that battery life has been a traditional strength of Nintendo handhelds, this is just plain inexcusable.
The battery life does suck compared to previous HH but none of the previous HH had 3D. Not that big of a deal to me since I play mostly at home but when I do take it somewhere I usually just end up playing like 3 hours tops.
- The price: why price it at $250? Especially considering that the cost of manufacturing is roughly $110? The 3DS's price seems even more inexcusable considering the much more technologically endowed Vita costs exactly the same.
You know theres more than just Manufacturing cost that added the 3DS price.
- The launch: seriously, barring maybe the PS3, this was probably the most botched launch of any game system in history. The 3DS launched with most of its functionality disabled, which was only added in later via firmware updates, and is in fact still being added in. This gave the entire system the impression of being rushed to launch. And let's not forget about the games. Which brings me to...
- The launch lineup. Nintendo promised us 'the best launch lineup' for the 3DS. We were promised top tier titles like Animal Crossing, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Star Fox 64 3D, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, Super Street Fighter IV, Resident Evil: Mercenaries and Nintendogs+Cats for the launch lineup. Of these, only two were actually released with the system, and while both of them sold in excess of a million units each, none of them were must haves.
Nintendo never said those games were going to be launch titles. They gave us a Launch Window.
- Games: Okay, so the 3DS is getting an incredible upcoming lineup. We know this. However, third parties increasingly seem to be losing confidence in the system. Games for the 3DS which have been cancelled so far include, but are not limited to, Crush 3D, Megaman Legends 3, Assassin's Creed: Lost Legacy, Saint's Row Drive By, My Garden and DJ Hero 3. This displays a worrying lack of confidence by third parties in the system- something that was never an issue with the original DS, even at the time of that system's similarly rocky launch.
Crush 3D is not cancelled, the game is done they are just going to put it on hold when there are more 3DS owners. Those games you mentioned doesn't equal all 3rd party games. There are still some great 3rd party games coming out.
- Marketing and perception: Seriously, this is perhaps the biggest blunder on Nintendo's part. The marketing for the 3DS fails on so many levels, it's not even funny. The adds fail to convey the simple message that the 3DS is an altogether new system, not an upgrade to the existing DS line. They focus too much on the 3D, as opposed to the other functionality the 3DS includes, including its persistent online, it's power boost, it's analog slider, it's 3D camera, it's multimedia capabilties, and more. The outcome of this is that the 3DS is seen by almost everybody as a DS 3D, or a 3D DS- just another new iteration, which definitely does not warrant a $250 dollar purchase.
Marketing the 3DS can be hard and Nintendo said it themselves. So far I think they done a good job. The 3DS having a slow start doesn't mean jack ****. The DS also had a slow start in sales and games and it turned out to be a great system. I'm sure the 3DS will also turn out great and especially during this holiday season.
Seriously, I love Nintendo, and I love their handhelds. I've owned every single one of their handhelds starting the Gamebiy Color, and so far, they have never disppointed me. So far, I have managed to convince myself that the problems with the DS echo some similar problems that the DS faced about the time of its launch, but there is simply too much that is going wrong, and I'm beginning to panic now, and wonder if I spent those $250 a bit too soon.
I still think the situation can be salvaged- the upcoming lineup for the system this year is nothing short of awesome, with Mario Kart, Super Mario, Shinobi, Rayman Origins, Sonic Generations, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Paper Mario, Star Fox 64 3D, Tales of the Abyss, Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor and Metal Gear Solid 3D. Along with new colors, a price drop and some bundles, as well as some increased marketing, the 3DS can be yet saved, and consolidated before the Vita's launch.
But it seriously makes me think, just WTF is Nintendo doing right now?
charizard1605
The problem I see is the Nintendo is solely focus more on 3D with the 3DS. I don't think charging $250 was a smart choice for everyone because no one can value a device solely on 3D alone. Of course Nintendo needs games to satisfy everyone to keep the 3DS going.
Dude, I went to a university and I found that the students I was hanging out with had a DS with Mario Kart. Tell me that doesn't get old 14 years later.[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]
[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]
Not even going to bother with this. 2/10 see me after ****/QUOTE] meh u know Im right. Mario was fun when you where 7, now not so much.
charlesdarwin55
EDIT: And they weren't gamers.
Yeah but probably they where squirels and not university students. ... What? I don't understand what you're trying to say. That they weren't students?I think the 3DS is doing fine. It has sold 1.5m in Japan (c'mon, the only market that really matters in handheld world) and if it gets to 3m by years end, it's already well on its way to beating/matching DS sales.
It's about to go into a drought, but there are still great games like SSFIV, OoT, DoA to play. I mean compare it to other console/handheld launches. What did the DS, PSP, X360, PS3 and Wii have 5 months after launch? Not much. 2~4 mentionable games each.
I got a 3DS but rarely play it and its just collecting dust now.
Maybe I should have waited for the lite version to come out.
I'm also disappointed with the current state of the 3DS. The reasons why I haven't purchased one yet are games, price, and battery life. Region lock sucks too, but not a big dealbreaker for me.
There are some games that I'm interested in, but the problem is that they're mostly just remakes/ports. Street Fighter IV is on the HD consoles. Devil Survivor is on the DS (and the sequel is coming out for the DS too). RE Mercenaries can be played on RE4 & RE5. The Metal Gear Solid HD Collection killed any interest I had with MGS3DS. Loz OoT is available in various places. Yeah, they have some new additions or have some tweaks, but I'm not going to buy a new system just to play updated versions of games I've already played.
It seems to me that Nintendo got pretty confident with the success of the DS and relied on the 3D as a selling factor, but it backfired. Nintendo failed to give us a killer app or must have games, and with this, the price of the 3DS factors in. $250 is too much, imo, considering its current library (and Vita's price). It needs more games (original ones at that), a price cut and a new lite model might help too. Anyways, I'm perfectly satisfied with my DSlite, so I'm not in a rush on getting a 3DS.
What the quota?? How many is a success and how many is a failure?? Lets talk numbers. Coolyfett, the last time we talked numbers, someone went too far and too make a long story short it ended up in your sig. The 3DS hasn't hit a holiday season, hence no one can really make the call if its a failure or not, I know you want to jump the gun and call it a failure, but that would be unfair.[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]
If it doesn't sell on the holidays, then we can call it a disaster.
Coolyfett
Coolyfett, the last time we talked numbers, someone went too far and too make a long story short it ended up in your sig. The 3DS hasn't hit a holiday season, hence no one can really make the call if its a failure or not, I know you want to jump the gun and call it a failure, but that would be unfair. Ok then just give a fair number and Coolyfett will hold you to it....fair....if they sell the predicted amount this time. Coolyfett will make a sign in your honor. That's not for me to decide, bro 8) That's up to the mainstream of the board to decide. Ask the creator of the System Wars Magazine, I'm sure he might consider making that call.[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="Coolyfett"]What the quota?? How many is a success and how many is a failure?? Lets talk numbers.
Coolyfett
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