The $99 360 console is now in stores.

$99 + $14.99(24)= $458

you people do realize that your paying more for less right.

Masterx1220

lower class america says "360 is king, mang, come ova here and play sum kinert! only a $99"

Is this the only option? No.

Do a lot of people prefer to pay a little upfront and more over the corse of a few years? Yes

Is it a method with proven results? Yes.

Are people really gonna complain about this? I wish all consoles did it, it's just another way for everyone to be able to afford the console they want.

Many stores already do similar plans with consoles, why shouldnt MS offer one for their own console?

$99 + $14.99(24)= $458

you people do realize that your paying more for less right.

Masterx1220

Launch price 20 gig PS3 was only $40 more (still included blu-ray and fee online)...6 years ago. It was a horrible deal according to lems...but this...THIS is a great deal for a 4gig, DVD based xbox360 in 2012--according to lems.

[QUOTE="Masterx1220"]

$99 + $14.99(24)= $458

you people do realize that your paying more for less right.

Masenkoe

lower class america says "360 is king, mang, come ova here and play sum kinert! only a $99"

So now instead of stereotyping people based on their religion or ethnic origin, we do so on how much they earn a year?

[QUOTE="Masterx1220"]

$99 + $14.99(24)= $458

you people do realize that your paying more for less right.

casharmy

Launch price 20 gig PS3 was only $40 more (still included blu-ray and fee online)...6 years ago. It was a horrible deal according to lems...but this...THIS is a great deal for a 4gig, DVD based xbox360 in 2012--according to lems.

[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

[QUOTE="Masterx1220"]

$99 + $14.99(24)= $458

you people do realize that your paying more for less right.

-Snooze-

lower class america says "360 is king, mang, come ova here and play sum kinert! only a $99"

So now instead of stereotyping people based on their religion or ethnic origin, we do so on how much they earn a year?

Is this the only option? No.

Do a lot of people prefer to pay a little upfront and more over the corse of a few years? Yes

Is it a method with proven results? Yes.

Are people really gonna complain about this? I wish all consoles did it, it's just another way for everyone to be able to afford the console they want.

Many stores already do similar plans with consoles, why shouldnt MS offer one for their own console?

-Snooze-

Can we get some kind of comparison of what those other plans come out to in $ compaired to this one? Also the version of the console used?

$15 PER MONTH???? PER MONTH!?

What the heck?

That's a trap!

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

lower class america says "360 is king, mang, come ova here and play sum kinert! only a $99"

Eddie-Vedder

So now instead of stereotyping people based on their religion or ethnic origin, we do so on how much they earn a year?

A. I'm not mad, forgive me if i gave you that impression.

B. It's not a huge rip off, It's simply spreading the cost over a period of two years. Which will obviously mean you'll have to pay more in the long run. Pretty much every premium product has this option, all that's happening now is the manufacturer (MS) is offering the service too

M$ is master rip off artist and lems are masters at getting ripped off. It's kind of sad, and pathetic.

Eddie-Vedder

This.

What makes it even more sad is that people are still going to buy them.

People are f**king stupid, and they are everywhere.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Is this the only option? No.

Do a lot of people prefer to pay a little upfront and more over the corse of a few years? Yes

Is it a method with proven results? Yes.

Are people really gonna complain about this? I wish all consoles did it, it's just another way for everyone to be able to afford the console they want.

Many stores already do similar plans with consoles, why shouldnt MS offer one for their own console?

casharmy

Can we get some kind of comparison of what those other plans come out to in $ compaired to this one? Also the version of the console used?

Quick example:

XBOX 3604GB White Console with Kinect, Kinect Adventure, Kinect Sports, 3 Months Xbox Live, White Controller and Union Jack Skins

Edit: Perhaps a better example - Note it is a limited edition console.

I'll let you convert it to whatever currency you use, and find the price it'd cost without such a payment plan.

[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

[QUOTE="Masterx1220"]

$99 + $14.99(24)= $458

you people do realize that your paying more for less right.

-Snooze-

lower class america says "360 is king, mang, come ova here and play sum kinert! only a $99"

So now instead of stereotyping people based on their religion or ethnic origin, we do so on how much they earn a year?

woah buddy hold your horses. i'm just stating that your paying more money. where did you get that from my statement:?

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="Masterx1220"]

$99 + $14.99(24)= $458

you people do realize that your paying more for less right.

mitu123

Launch price 20 gig PS3 was only $40 more (still included blu-ray and fee online)...6 years ago. It was a horrible deal according to lems...but this...THIS is a great deal for a 4gig, DVD based xbox360 in 2012--according to lems.

this thread for startes. TC, stsmat106, WarTornRuston, loosingEnds, Edidili, PAL360...yeah aside form Edidili it's the usual group of xbox fans. And the "hate" is coming from gamers who are not the ususal lems on the board.

There was another thread a while back with the limited distribution version of this plan was announced and there were even more...same users who constatly bring up the PS3 launch price as a horrible deal, those guys.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

lower class america says "360 is king, mang, come ova here and play sum kinert! only a $99"

Masterx1220

So now instead of stereotyping people based on their religion or ethnic origin, we do so on how much they earn a year?

woah buddy hold your horses. i'm just stating that your paying more money. where did you get that from my statement:?

"Lower class America" Would allude to where one is in the socio-economic hierarchy.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

Launch price 20 gig PS3 was only $40 more (still included blu-ray and fee online)...6 years ago. It was a horrible deal according to lems...but this...THIS is a great deal for a 4gig, DVD based xbox360 in 2012--according to lems.

casharmy

this thread for startes. TC, stsmat106, WarTornRuston, loosingEnds, Edidili, PAL360...yeah aside form Edidili it's the usual group of xbox fans. And the "hate" is coming from gamers who are not the ususal lems on the board.

There was another thread a while back with the limited distribution version of this plan was announced and there were even more...same users who constatly bring up the PS3 launch price as a horrible deal, those guys.

There was another thread a while back with the limited distribution version of this plan was announced and there were even more...same users who constatly bring up the PS3 launch price as a horrible deal, those guys.

casharmy

The PS3 launch price WAS a horrible deal. I paid £550, upfront, for a console with very little software backing it up.

Being able to spread the cost of 2 years is a very good deal for a HUGE amount of people. Look at Smartphones, do you think everyone cna afford to spend £500 on an iphone, on top of whatever monthly plan they're going to need? Of course not. Yes it'd be cheaper to do so, but contract phones still far outsell sim free deals.

You would only have a leg to stand on had MS gave this method as the ONLY option. Which they're not stupid enough to do.

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

There was another thread a while back with the limited distribution version of this plan was announced and there were even more...same users who constatly bring up the PS3 launch price as a horrible deal, those guys.

-Snooze-

The PS3 launch price WAS a horrible deal. I paid £550, upfront, for a console with very little software backing it up.

Being able to spread the cost of 2 years is a very good deal for a HUGE amount of people. Look at Smartphones, do you think everyone cna afford to spend £500 on an iphone, on top of whatever monthly plan they're going to need? Of course not. Yes it'd be cheaper to do so, but contract phones still far outsell sim free deals.

You would only have a leg to stand on had MS gave this method as the ONLY option. Which they're not stupid enough to do.

Software is one argument...the hardware however is another.

Could you complain about the price of buying an HDTV when if first came out because there weren't many HD movies...if it didn't change the fact that you still were getting a TV that had the tech to so? NO, you were paying for more advanced hardware and technology. Talking about software doesn't change the fact that the tech inside PS3 was there.

I am going to give you a big NO! for your argument. Personal feelings aside, you can't argue that the PS3's launch price was a horrible deal for the tech it had and the time it came out. It's not even an opinion, you can't argue that it was a horrible deal...you could argue that it was too expensive as a game console, but that is about it. And if you make that arguement how the hell could you defend the 360 $400 launch price?

Do I need to remind you of what both PS3 and 360 launched with tech for tech? This "deal" we are talking about now comes 7 years later and $50 more than the launch price of the original cost of the console. Good deal?

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

There was another thread a while back with the limited distribution version of this plan was announced and there were even more...same users who constatly bring up the PS3 launch price as a horrible deal, those guys.

casharmy

The PS3 launch price WAS a horrible deal. I paid £550, upfront, for a console with very little software backing it up.

Being able to spread the cost of 2 years is a very good deal for a HUGE amount of people. Look at Smartphones, do you think everyone cna afford to spend £500 on an iphone, on top of whatever monthly plan they're going to need? Of course not. Yes it'd be cheaper to do so, but contract phones still far outsell sim free deals.

You would only have a leg to stand on had MS gave this method as the ONLY option. Which they're not stupid enough to do.

Software is one argument...the hardware however is another.

Could you complain about the price of buying an HDTV when if first came out because there weren't many HD movies...if it didn't change the fact that you still were getting a TV that had the tech to so?

I am going to give you a big NO! for your argument. Personal feelings aside, you can't argue that the PS3's launch price was a horrible deal for the tech it had and the time it came out. It's not even an opinion, you can't argue that it was a horrible deal...you could argue that it was too expensive as a game console, but that is about it. And if you make that arguement how the hell could you defend the 360 $400 launch price?

I could indeed complain if I could get another HD TV, a year earlier, for less.

Regardless, what is a games console without software? Nothing. A HDTV is still a TV, I cans till watch TV, an play my HD console in it. I dont even watch HD movies, dont own a single one.

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

There was another thread a while back with the limited distribution version of this plan was announced and there were even more...same users who constatly bring up the PS3 launch price as a horrible deal, those guys.

-Snooze-

The PS3 launch price WAS a horrible deal. I paid £550, upfront, for a console with very little software backing it up.

Being able to spread the cost of 2 years is a very good deal for a HUGE amount of people. Look at Smartphones, do you think everyone cna afford to spend £500 on an iphone, on top of whatever monthly plan they're going to need? Of course not. Yes it'd be cheaper to do so, but contract phones still far outsell sim free deals.

You would only have a leg to stand on had MS gave this method as the ONLY option. Which they're not stupid enough to do.

Looks like you got ripped off by some stores. I paid £425 for mine.

Xbox 360 is technically more expensive. You'd have to pay for Xbox Live if you want to play online and all the goddamn things such as Wi-Fi adapter, batteries for the controller, etc.

So £425 for a PS3 was reasonable.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

There was another thread a while back with the limited distribution version of this plan was announced and there were even more...same users who constatly bring up the PS3 launch price as a horrible deal, those guys.

GamerwillzPS

The PS3 launch price WAS a horrible deal. I paid £550, upfront, for a console with very little software backing it up.

Being able to spread the cost of 2 years is a very good deal for a HUGE amount of people. Look at Smartphones, do you think everyone cna afford to spend £500 on an iphone, on top of whatever monthly plan they're going to need? Of course not. Yes it'd be cheaper to do so, but contract phones still far outsell sim free deals.

You would only have a leg to stand on had MS gave this method as the ONLY option. Which they're not stupid enough to do.

Looks like you got ripped off by some stores. I paid £425 for mine.

Xbox 360 is technically more expensive. You'd have to pay for Xbox Live if you want to play online and all the goddamn things such as Wi-Fi adapter, batteries for the controller, etc.

So £425 for a PS3 was reasonable.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

There was another thread a while back with the limited distribution version of this plan was announced and there were even more...same users who constatly bring up the PS3 launch price as a horrible deal, those guys.

GamerwillzPS

The PS3 launch price WAS a horrible deal. I paid £550, upfront, for a console with very little software backing it up.

Being able to spread the cost of 2 years is a very good deal for a HUGE amount of people. Look at Smartphones, do you think everyone cna afford to spend £500 on an iphone, on top of whatever monthly plan they're going to need? Of course not. Yes it'd be cheaper to do so, but contract phones still far outsell sim free deals.

You would only have a leg to stand on had MS gave this method as the ONLY option. Which they're not stupid enough to do.

Looks like you got ripped off by some stores. I paid £425 for mine.

Xbox 360 is technically more expensive. You'd have to pay for Xbox Live if you want to play online and all the goddamn things such as Wi-Fi adapter, batteries for the controller, etc.

So £425 for a PS3 was reasonable.

If you dont play online and dont need Wi-Fi, 360 is only 199$ though

425 pounds is like triple 360 price

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

The PS3 launch price WAS a horrible deal. I paid £550, upfront, for a console with very little software backing it up.

Being able to spread the cost of 2 years is a very good deal for a HUGE amount of people. Look at Smartphones, do you think everyone cna afford to spend £500 on an iphone, on top of whatever monthly plan they're going to need? Of course not. Yes it'd be cheaper to do so, but contract phones still far outsell sim free deals.

You would only have a leg to stand on had MS gave this method as the ONLY option. Which they're not stupid enough to do.

-Snooze-

Software is one argument...the hardware however is another.

Could you complain about the price of buying an HDTV when if first came out because there weren't many HD movies...if it didn't change the fact that you still were getting a TV that had the tech to so?

I am going to give you a big NO! for your argument. Personal feelings aside, you can't argue that the PS3's launch price was a horrible deal for the tech it had and the time it came out. It's not even an opinion, you can't argue that it was a horrible deal...you could argue that it was too expensive as a game console, but that is about it. And if you make that arguement how the hell could you defend the 360 $400 launch price?

I could indeed complain if I could get another HD TV, a year earlier, for less.

Regardless, what is a games console without software? Nothing. A HDTV is still a TV, I cans till watch TV, an play my HD console in it. I dont even watch HD movies, dont own a single one.

You are not really defending you point with this post are you?

I brought up an imprortant point and you completely dodged it, You said it was a horrible deal...go ahead and tell everyone how it was a "horrible deal"? I can explain how this is a horrible deal backed up by simple facts and logic. You saying you can you don't own an HD movie wouldn't change the fact that (if you had an HDTV) it could play them.

Perhaps one should just wait for the equally powahful Wii U launching soon at the low, low price of $350.00 ? :o :twisted:

I kid but really, with the 360, and I'm sure Sony will drop the price of PS3 pretty soon as well, does Wii U have what it takes ? I dunno ?

TBH, this deal isn't really all that great but, a straight up one time price of under 100 bucks would be killa and I think that's coming soon. :P

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

Software is one argument...the hardware however is another.

Could you complain about the price of buying an HDTV when if first came out because there weren't many HD movies...if it didn't change the fact that you still were getting a TV that had the tech to so?

I am going to give you a big NO! for your argument. Personal feelings aside, you can't argue that the PS3's launch price was a horrible deal for the tech it had and the time it came out. It's not even an opinion, you can't argue that it was a horrible deal...you could argue that it was too expensive as a game console, but that is about it. And if you make that arguement how the hell could you defend the 360 $400 launch price?

casharmy

I could indeed complain if I could get another HD TV, a year earlier, for less.

Regardless, what is a games console without software? Nothing. A HDTV is still a TV, I cans till watch TV, an play my HD console in it. I dont even watch HD movies, dont own a single one.

You are not really defending you point with this post are you?

I brought up an imprortant point and you completely dodged it, You said it was a horrible deal...go ahead and tell everyone how it was a "horrible deal"? I can explain how this is a horrible deal backed up by simple facts and logic. You saying you can you don't own an HD movie wouldn't change the fact that (if you had an HDTV) it could play them.

It was a horrible deal because a console without software is pointless. Regardless of how much it cost SONY to put it together.

It's a horrible deal in comparison to the launch Xbox which, not only released a year earlier, but also at a much better price, with better software.

This is also besides the point of the thread, you mentiond the PS3 being a good deal, not I. I simply said that I comparison to this Xbox deal, it wasn't.

On Topic: I've provided you with similar monthly/weekly payment plans for the Xbox, how does Microsofts compare?

It works for phones, so I let's see how it works for consoles. If it will be succesfull I'm pretty sure that MS will offer similar deal with next Xbox. Add some cable companies to it and it might push nextbox to be the best selling next gen console.

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I could indeed complain if I could get another HD TV, a year earlier, for less.

Regardless, what is a games console without software? Nothing. A HDTV is still a TV, I cans till watch TV, an play my HD console in it. I dont even watch HD movies, dont own a single one.

-Snooze-

You are not really defending you point with this post are you?

I brought up an imprortant point and you completely dodged it, You said it was a horrible deal...go ahead and tell everyone how it was a "horrible deal"? I can explain how this is a horrible deal backed up by simple facts and logic. You saying you can you don't own an HD movie wouldn't change the fact that (if you had an HDTV) it could play them.

It was a horrible deal because a console without software is pointless. Regardless of how much it cost SONY to put it together.

It's a horrible deal in comparison to the launch Xbox which, not only released a year earlier, but also at a much better price, with better software.

This is also besides the point of the thread, you mentiond the PS3 being a good deal, not I. I simply said that I comparison to this Xbox deal, it wasn't.

On Topic: I've provided you with similar monthly/weekly payment plans for the Xbox, how does Microsofts compare?

You have only simply said "it's a horrible deal" and then used software as your back up. The quality of the software at the time is opinion...the hardware and tech in the PS3 is FACT. You can't argue it.

Also, you gave figures for one that was not even in the same dollar format, I was looking for something I could easily compaire since you mentioned similar deals were out. I would have done it myself but can you tell me how they compaire since you are using different money values?

If it added a worthy plethora of meaningful features...I'd think about it since I can afford it.

This type of contract / deal is not suitable for a console that doesn't offer the right stuff, yet. At least not this generation.

But its a genius way to make money.

This is the type of contract masses pay for cellphones or Cable Tv. Which are a vital part of everyday life.

A gaming console falls short compared to these two.

Great deal, you can sell the kinect, only play offline and play the few exclusive 360 had in 2006-2008

Pretty good deal if you know your going to be a heavy live user.

Pretty good deal if you know your going to be a heavy live user.

Pretty good deal if you know your going to be a heavy live user.

Pretty good deal if you know your going to be a heavy live user.

basically getting Kinect and 2 years of live for free, and some people like the the poor fellow in my signature can't afford a console.

WarTornRuston

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I could indeed complain if I could get another HD TV, a year earlier, for less.

Regardless, what is a games console without software? Nothing. A HDTV is still a TV, I cans till watch TV, an play my HD console in it. I dont even watch HD movies, dont own a single one.

-Snooze-

You are not really defending you point with this post are you?

I brought up an imprortant point and you completely dodged it, You said it was a horrible deal...go ahead and tell everyone how it was a "horrible deal"? I can explain how this is a horrible deal backed up by simple facts and logic. You saying you can you don't own an HD movie wouldn't change the fact that (if you had an HDTV) it could play them.

It was a horrible deal because a console without software is pointless. Regardless of how much it cost SONY to put it together.

It's a horrible deal in comparison to the launch Xbox which, not only released a year earlier, but also at a much better price, with better software.

This is also besides the point of the thread, you mentiond the PS3 being a good deal, not I. I simply said that I comparison to this Xbox deal, it wasn't.

On Topic: I've provided you with similar monthly/weekly payment plans for the Xbox, how does Microsofts compare?

The Xbox 360 was a great console when it was released with good line-up of exclusives. But you would be disappointed later in its life (unless you are a Xbox fanboy) because there is lack of software these days. So it wasn't really a good deal - All of your money from the 360 launch was basically thrown in the bin.

[QUOTE="WarTornRuston"]

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

deal sucks

the_bi99man

It's not getting 2 years of live for free. You pay $99 for the console, and you only get that deal if you sign a contract on the spot to also get 2 years of live, at $15 per month. You're getting nothing for free, you're getting a "discounted" console because you're committing to spend even more than regular retail price over the next 2 years on the service. Identical to a cell phone contract.

[QUOTE="WarTornRuston"]

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

deal sucks

the_bi99man

It's not getting 2 years of live for free. You pay $99 for the console, and you only get that deal if you sign a contract on the spot to also get 2 years of live, at $15 per month. You're getting nothing for free, you're getting a "discounted" console because you're committing to spend even more than regular retail price over the next 2 years on the service. Identical to a cell phone contract.

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Which lems? I see more hate on this than love.

sts106mat

this thread for startes. TC, stsmat106, WarTornRuston, loosingEnds, Edidili, PAL360...yeah aside form Edidili it's the usual group of xbox fans. And the "hate" is coming from gamers who are not the ususal lems on the board.

There was another thread a while back with the limited distribution version of this plan was announced and there were even more...same users who constatly bring up the PS3 launch price as a horrible deal, those guys.

Sorry, wasn't trying to get you confused. Think I was looking at TC's name or something.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

You are not really defending you point with this post are you?

I brought up an imprortant point and you completely dodged it, You said it was a horrible deal...go ahead and tell everyone how it was a "horrible deal"? I can explain how this is a horrible deal backed up by simple facts and logic. You saying you can you don't own an HD movie wouldn't change the fact that (if you had an HDTV) it could play them.

GamerwillzPS

It was a horrible deal because a console without software is pointless. Regardless of how much it cost SONY to put it together.

It's a horrible deal in comparison to the launch Xbox which, not only released a year earlier, but also at a much better price, with better software.

This is also besides the point of the thread, you mentiond the PS3 being a good deal, not I. I simply said that I comparison to this Xbox deal, it wasn't.

On Topic: I've provided you with similar monthly/weekly payment plans for the Xbox, how does Microsofts compare?

The Xbox 360 was a great console when it was released with good line-up of exclusives. But you would be disappointed later in its life (unless you are a Xbox fanboy) because there is lack of software these days. So it wasn't really a good deal - All of your money from the 360 launch was basically thrown in the bin.

The software argument is stupid here, because we are talking about "hardware" and it being a good "deal" or not.

:roll: I guess a GTX 590 should cost the same as a GTS 250 since they play the same "software" huh?

Pretty good deal if you know your going to be a heavy live user.

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"] wTF are you talking about fool? this is my first post in this thread. sts106mat

Sorry, wasn't trying to get you confused. Think I was looking at TC's name or something.

not even, I said my bad. Don't think I've made a mistake like that before, and I apologize.