The $99 360 console is now in stores.

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

It's a fantastic idea. People far prefer paying monthly as opposed to fully upfront costs. People "buy" phones at reduced prices all the time, only to pay inflated contract fees.

lundy86_4

We see stuff like this all the time, and yet it still surprises people. It has its detractors the same as any idea, but in many cases the benefits outweigh the costs for the average consumer.

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

if you don't pay the monthly fees do the repo men come and get it?

sora16perfect

$250 cancellation fee

Cancellation fees exist on these types of sales. I have to pay a cancellation fee if I cancel my contract before the end of my 3-year term. What they need to do, is offer reduced cancellation fees the further you are into your contract.

Ew, this is just awful.

Buying a console with no games, bundled with Kinect and being forced to pay for Xbox Live. I'd rather to set myself on fire than getting that piece of sh!t.

GamerwillzPS

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] It never cease to amaze me on how the cows fail on the concept of economics.alexside1

We see stuff like this all the time, and yet it still surprises people. It has its detractors the same as any idea, but in many cases the benefits outweigh the costs for the average consumer.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I think it's funny how there are some people who don't understand this lol.

There are actually some people in here thinking this is a good deal. I don't understand why? Do they have any consumer knowledge or are they just bad with money or what? Mabey they are MS employees and are trying to sell it to people lol.

pc-ps360

i think shadow still lives in his mom basement and does not know how things work for people that have bills. when you are a working man u will know why this is a good deal, when i bought my car i did not pay upfront the total amount but paid it in 2 years, same as my house i paid it in 5 year (i still have 1 year left). even tho u end up paying more in the 2 or 5 years by a small margin, but it will not hit u and u will not feel it because are making more money in that period. if i ended up buying my car paying upfront it would have ruined me and if i paid for my house upfront i would have been broke (and i wont even have a house to live in). an initial payment for a next gen console of 100 dolars and then each month for 2 years of 15 dollars will be feel like nothing for some1 that works. it will actually feel like it free 15 dollars is nothing and is way better than paying 400 dollars initially.

Yes more wisdom from a mature adult who throws around insults at people, really shows how mature you are. Bahaha I'm a 22 year old who works and tries to pay my through college, guess throwing around insults is the best you can do. Oh well haters gonna hate....

And no, this is not a good idea, this is a terrible deal that is not in the consumers best interest. If it succeeds you will no doubt see MS implement this with the 720 and it will either be the only model, or will be the only affordable one for most people.

But in the long run it ends up hurting the consumer as they ended up spending far more than the regular amount. And lol at $15 a month, do the math bro, add that up at the end of the two years. It's not about what you can afford now, it's what the end total cost is.

The end total cost is what matters. And the argument if wether the end total cost is worth it or not, which in this case it is not.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I'm sorry 360 fanboys, but you should be worried. What if this deal ends up being successful (which it probably will because some people are stupid) and MS decides to use this method of marketing with the 720 and have it be subscription based only?

They launch the 720 with a low entry fee and make people agree to sign up to a deal in order to use it, you also pay for XBL as well and if your subscription runs out they take back your Xbox or they lock out your console or something similar?

You guys may laugh and say that will never happen, well guess what? They already do it with XBL, it's the same idea. And people are dumb enough to pay for that, hell some people actually DEFEND it? What are you going to do if MS does this next gen? Have it a standard subscription only?

I wouldn't be surprised if some people buy into that, and even end up defending it. 360 owners should be worried.

spiderluck

Gaming consoles and cars are completely different things, dude.

What I'm seeing here is the death of common sense.

ShadowMoses is right, Xbox fanboys have something to worry about here.

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

We see stuff like this all the time, and yet it still surprises people. It has its detractors the same as any idea, but in many cases the benefits outweigh the costs for the average consumer.

Chris_Williams

[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I'm sorry 360 fanboys, but you should be worried. What if this deal ends up being successful (which it probably will because some people are stupid) and MS decides to use this method of marketing with the 720 and have it be subscription based only?

They launch the 720 with a low entry fee and make people agree to sign up to a deal in order to use it, you also pay for XBL as well and if your subscription runs out they take back your Xbox or they lock out your console or something similar?

You guys may laugh and say that will never happen, well guess what? They already do it with XBL, it's the same idea. And people are dumb enough to pay for that, hell some people actually DEFEND it? What are you going to do if MS does this next gen? Have it a standard subscription only?

I wouldn't be surprised if some people buy into that, and even end up defending it. 360 owners should be worried.

GamerwillzPS

Gaming consoles and cars are completely different things, dude.

What I'm seeing here is the death of common sense.

ShadowMoses is right, Xbox fanboys have something to worry about here.

What about smartphones then? Don't people pay for them in the same way? Or are they still too much different?

That's how it works with everything you don't fully pay upfront. Is a freaking loan and yes you pay more in the long run. If you have the money then just buy it.

Microsoft knows how to rip people offR3FURBISHED

That's a terrible deal. It's $440 if you buy that 99 dollar console. When I was looking into possibly buy an xbox a few months ago Walmart.com offered a console w/o kinect that included a year free of live and a free game for $220. I really hope people will do some research and not waste money on this "deal".

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

This is seriously a good deal, and MS will squeeze a lot of life outta the 360 before next gen arrives with this.

OB-47

It's just like those mobile phone contracts. For people who were going to play online a lot, this looks like a great deal to me.

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]Microsoft knows how to rip people offsenses_fail_06

Cool. If I was an uninformed idiot I would be running to the store right now but since I'm not...

$15 a month for Live??? Is that a mistype by OP??

$15 a month for Live??? Is that a mistype by OP??

whiskeystrike

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

$15 a month for Live??? Is that a mistype by OP??

MonsieurX

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

$15 a month for Live??? Is that a mistype by OP??

whiskeystrike

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Nope.spiderluck

Um. I don't feel like paying that much to access my router. And yeah, I'm in the military, don't exactly make a whole lot so I save where I can.

[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="whiskeystrike"] Glad I bought a PS3 a couple of weeks ago instead... geezwhiskeystrike

Um. I don't feel like paying that much to access my router. And yeah, I'm in the military, don't exactly make a whole lot so I save where I can.

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

[QUOTE="spiderluck"] No offense ...but anyone who can't afford 15$ a month has bigger issues going on than the lack of a videogame console...if manufacturers of any middle end to high end consumer product depended solely on people who can afford to pay caSh for their products...then the economy would tank on a scale you could not imagine...enough of the grade 10 schoolyard economics and welcome to the REAL world....credit despite all it's naysayers, makes the world go round..there is no going back to the 1950's....there is demand and there are many different ways of supplying ii...if a particular method does not float your boat your choice as an individual is never compromised.....so... enough of the holier than thou condescending value judgements about how others choose to spend their own money...they can do without you self appointed economic gurusspiderluck

Um. I don't feel like paying that much to access my router. And yeah, I'm in the military, don't exactly make a whole lot so I save where I can.

Just because people don't want to pay for Xbox Live doesn't make them poor or have a holier than thou attitude. People don't feel like paying for a service as they don't see it worth the cost. No other platform does that. And what's funny is that console gamers love to rip on MMO's that charge that kind of monthly fee but now I'm seeing some economics/philosophical defense of paying for Xbox Live. SW is a funny place.

[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

Um. I don't feel like paying that much to access my router. And yeah, I'm in the military, don't exactly make a whole lot so I save where I can.

whiskeystrike

Just because people don't want to pay for Xbox Live doesn't make them poor or have a holier than thou attitude. People don't feel like paying for a service as they don't see it worth the cost. No other platform does that. And what's funny is that console gamers love to rip on MMO's that charge that kind of monthly fee but now I'm seeing some economics/philosophical defense of paying for Xbox Live. SW is a funny place.

I like how one year of online play costs more than half the cost of the total system.

[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

Um. I don't feel like paying that much to access my router. And yeah, I'm in the military, don't exactly make a whole lot so I save where I can.

whiskeystrike

Just because people don't want to pay for Xbox Live doesn't make them poor or have a holier than thou attitude. People don't feel like paying for a service as they don't see it worth the cost. No other platform does that. And what's funny is that console gamers love to rip on MMO's that charge that kind of monthly fee but now I'm seeing some economics/philosophical defense of paying for Xbox Live. SW is a funny place.

This is a crappy deal. I give M$ props for offering continuing Gold users a $39.99 option for the year but this is ridiculous. $15 a month for Gold is stupid. I really hope people don't get fooled by this. Just buy the $199.99 4GB option.Magescrew

[QUOTE="Magescrew"]This is a crappy deal. I give M$ props for offering continuing Gold users a $39.99 option for the year but this is ridiculous. $15 a month for Gold is stupid. I really hope people don't get fooled by this. Just buy the $199.99 4GB option.spiderluck

$15 a month for Live??? Is that a mistype by OP??

whiskeystrike

You pay for the Live + xbox + Kinect, not just for Live obviously

[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="Magescrew"]This is a crappy deal. I give M$ props for offering continuing Gold users a $39.99 option for the year but this is ridiculous. $15 a month for Gold is stupid. I really hope people don't get fooled by this. Just buy the $199.99 4GB option.DerekLoffin

its too bad really its a bad deal but no worse then cellphones, 2 year contracts with cable..etc

[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="Magescrew"]This is a crappy deal. I give M$ props for offering continuing Gold users a $39.99 option for the year but this is ridiculous. $15 a month for Gold is stupid. I really hope people don't get fooled by this. Just buy the $199.99 4GB option.DerekLoffin

That is because you are doing it wrong

You did not add Kinect to the equation

99+24*14.99 > 299 + 2 * 39.99

460 > 380

That is a 80$ difference, not 180$ and i think it is the normal interest you pay when you get something with doses

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]Microsoft knows how to rip people offR3FURBISHED

Great deal. For me to poop on. They should sterilize you as you walk out the store.getyeryayasout

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="DerekLoffin"] Even considering that it is a crappy deal. 99+24*14.99 > 199 + 2 * 39.99 (by almost $180, you could buy nearly another 360 for that).DerekLoffin

The deal is not for those that have the money to buy it outright obviously

And TBH this is not a deal at all, just a different way to pay for xbox 360

Who said it was a deal ? It is only good for those that want the system today and cant pay the full 300$ right now

15$ / month is rather managable

[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="getyeryayasout"] Great deal. For me to poop on. They should sterilize you as you walk out the store.getyeryayasout

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Only problem is that the 4GB 360 with kinect bundle is $300 and 2 years of xbl service is $120. loosingENDS

The deal is not for those that have the money to buy it outright obviously

And TBH this is not a deal at all, just a different way to pay for xbox 360

Who said it was a deal ? It is only good for those that want the system today and cant pay the full 300$ right now

15$ / month is rather managable

Hopefully the price point will raise a red flag for people, terrible deal if you do the math.

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Only problem is that the 4GB 360 with kinect bundle is $300 and 2 years of xbl service is $120. loosingENDS

The deal is not for those that have the money to buy it outright obviously

And TBH this is not a deal at all, just a different way to pay for xbox 360

Who said it was a deal ? It is only good for those that want the system today and cant pay the full 300$ right now

15$ / month is rather managable

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"] Even if you go worst possible case, it is still more expensive then getting the components individually. That's no deal, that is a rip off.MonsieurX

The deal is not for those that have the money to buy it outright obviously

And TBH this is not a deal at all, just a different way to pay for xbox 360

Who said it was a deal ? It is only good for those that want the system today and cant pay the full 300$ right now

15$ / month is rather managable

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"] Even if you go worst possible case, it is still more expensive then getting the components individually. That's no deal, that is a rip off.MonsieurX

The deal is not for those that have the money to buy it outright obviously

And TBH this is not a deal at all, just a different way to pay for xbox 360

Who said it was a deal ? It is only good for those that want the system today and cant pay the full 300$ right now

15$ / month is rather managable

Games...? Thats no problem cause 360 has no gaemz

Man ..i can actually smell the fear emanating from the cow pasture